Broken Combine: Imbued Steelsilk Bracers (Prexus)

[MilkyMilkyCamel]

I'm working on crafting a full set of Imbued Steelsilk armor (the Prexus variety, using imbued black pearls), but can't craft the bracers. All of the combines were trivial to me, yet I can't complete the set because the bracer materials will not combine.

I tried using the materials indicated on the Project1999 wiki for the combine, and I double-checked the game lore book "On Terrorantula Silk," which gives the recipe for each of the Steelsilk pieces; this recipe matches what is shown on the Project1999 wiki. It wouldn't accept the combine, so I then began experimenting by adding more swatches, removing certain components, etc., and I could not find any way to make the combine work. (I did not, however, remove the imbued black pearl, as that presumably would have eaten my mats and yielded an unimbued steelsilk bracer.)

Could this combine please be looked at and fixed? Everything both in-game and online suggests that it should require:

1 terrorantula swatch
1 vial of purified mana
1 platinum thread
1 wristband pattern
1 imbued black pearl
combined in a worn erudite sewing kit

but as I said, this recipe is not working.

Many thanks in advance! :)

Edit: http://wiki.project1999.com/Cultural_Tradeskills:_Erudite -- Adding this link for quick reference

[Expediency]

I can confirm this, I was grouped with him and contracted this labor. He tried every sort of combo we could think of and could not get this to work. All the other pieces worked as described. This has to be bugged somehow. I did some googling and could not find evidence of the bracers being bugged at time of release.

[nilbog]

Looks like the bracer combines for prexus, cazic, and quellious are all missing. Will add them.

From looking at eqtraders, the trivials are listed at 242. Other combines such as the mask are listed at 242, while on p99, it is 107. Does anyone know more about this/does it need to be raised?

[Samoht]

P99 is using the post tradeskill revamp values for most tradeskills. It probably needs to be raised.

[Sorn]

From Lokari's tailoring guide (http://www.lokari.net/everquest/cultural.html#steelsilk_armor - last updated March 4, 2004):

Steelsilk (non-imbued) has trivials >165 while all the imbued stuff is <135.

This site (http://eqruckus.tripod.com/cultural_tailoring.htm - unknown update date) both supports and adds info:

Steelsilk (non-imbued) has trivials >170 while all the imbued stuff is <=119

[Mud]

Here is a capture of EQ Traders from October 7, 2001: https://web.archive.org/web/20011007190336/http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_tailoring_erudite.htm. The trivials for the Imbued deity-specific Steelsilk is stated as <=123 for all pieces. For non-Imbued, non-deity-specific Steelsilk, the trivial is stated as >169 for all pieces.

Also, there is an issue with the Imbued gems as well. According to the above source, the following imbued gems are used to make deity-specific Imbued Steelsilk armor:

Imbued Amber: Cazic-Thule
Imbued Black Pearl: Prexus
Imbued Topaz: Quellious

However, I just crafted a full visible set (minus bracers) of Imbued Steelsilk using an Imbued Amber and everything came out as Deity: Prexus rather than Deity: Cazic-Thule.

[Mud]

Also relevant to crafting Steelsilk armor:

Pardas Nalue in Paineel should sell Platinum+Gold+Silver Threads. He currently does not. August 10, 2001 EQ Traders: https://web.archive.org/web/20010810000934/http://www.eqtraders.com/location/tailoring.htm

Kamzar in West Cabilis should also sell Platinum+Gold+Silver Threads, and interestingly, Erudite Sewing Kit and the book On Terrorantula Silk, according to the same link above. He currently does not have these items for sale. There are more items he should have also, such as Small Sewing Kit, all clothing patterns, etc.

EQT also cites a "Erudite Sewing Kit," rather than the "Worn" Erudite Sewing Kit that is currently on P99. I haven't found evidence yet showing there is a difference between the two containers.

[Expediency]

Also relevant to crafting Steelsilk armor:

Pardas Nalue in Paineel should sell Platinum+Gold+Silver Threads. He currently does not. August 10, 2001 EQ Traders: https://web.archive.org/web/20010810000934/http://www.eqtraders.com/location/tailoring.htm

Kamzar in West Cabilis should also sell Platinum+Gold+Silver Threads, and interestingly, Erudite Sewing Kit and the book On Terrorantula Silk, according to the same link above. He currently does not have these items for sale. There are more items he should have also, such as Small Sewing Kit, all clothing patterns, etc.

EQT also cites a "Erudite Sewing Kit," rather than the "Worn" Erudite Sewing Kit that is currently on P99. I haven't found evidence yet showing there is a difference between the two containers.

The only place I could find "erudite sewing kit" was in paineel, same guy that sells the scroll. It is indeed called "worn erudite sewing kit" but it worked for all the combines. I had another player check west cabilis for the sewing kit vendor but they couldnt locate it; I did not confirm it myself.

Gilbasi Weaver in Erudin is supposed to have Platinum thread but I couldnt find it for sale anywhere in erudin, instead I went to thurg.

[Mud]

Gilbasi Weaver in Erudin is supposed to have Platinum thread but I couldnt find it for sale anywhere in erudin, instead I went to thurg.

Edit: You're right, late Velious. December 17, 2001 https://web.archive.org/web/20011217092901/http://eqtraders.com/location/tailoring.htm

silver/gold/platinum thread, sm. sewing kit, How To Sew (med) - Galbasi Weaver (near dock)

[MilkyMilkyCamel]

Woot, thanks for the quick response time! Looking forward to seeing this implemented in game =)

[nilbog]

Started work on this.

To begin with, Steelsilk (non-imbued) was missing recipes for the following:
steelsilk boots
steelsilk bracers
steelsilk cloak
steelsilk pauldron
steelsilk vambraces
steelsilk waistband

Added those, pending update.

Next project is to fix the imbued versions.

[Fleetwood]

Awesome, can't wait for that to become available!

[Expediency]

Started work on this.

To begin with, Steelsilk (non-imbued) was missing recipes for the following:

........

Added those, pending update.

Next project is to fix the imbued versions.

You the man. I tried to get a set of this on live and could never afford it, bound and determined to get one on p99 and only lack the bracers. Thanks for fixing this!

[nilbog]

Pending update:

All imbued steelsilk combines will work.


Now, I question the trivials. They are as follows:

imbued steelsilk boots(cazic thule) 107
imbued steelsilk boots(prexus) 96
imbued steelsilk boots(quellious) 107
imbued steelsilk bracer (quellious) 242
imbued steelsilk bracer(cazic thule) 242
imbued steelsilk bracer(prexus) 242
imbued steelsilk breastplate(cazic thule) 107
imbued steelsilk breastplate(prexus) 96
imbued steelsilk breastplate(quellious) 107
imbued steelsilk cloak(cazic thule) 107
imbued steelsilk cloak(prexus) 107
imbued steelsilk cloak(quellious) 107
imbued steelsilk collar(cazic thule) 107
imbued steelsilk collar(prexus) 107
imbued steelsilk collar(quellious) 107
imbued steelsilk gauntlets(cazic thule) 107
imbued steelsilk gauntlets(prexus) 107
imbued steelsilk gauntlets(quellious) 107
imbued steelsilk greaves(cazic thule) 107
imbued steelsilk greaves(prexus) 96
imbued steelsilk greaves(quellious) 107
imbued steelsilk helm(cazic thule) 107
imbued steelsilk helm(prexus) 107
imbued steelsilk helm(quellious) 107
imbued steelsilk mask(cazic thule) 107
imbued steelsilk mask(prexus) 107
imbued steelsilk mask(quellious) 107
imbued steelsilk pauldron(cazic thule) 107
imbued steelsilk pauldron(prexus) 107
imbued steelsilk pauldron(quellious) 107
imbued steelsilk vambraces(cazic thule) 107
imbued steelsilk vambraces(prexus) 96
imbued steelsilk vambraces(quellious) 107
imbued steelsilk waistband(cazic thule) 107
imbued steelsilk waistband(prexus) 107
imbued steelsilk waistband(quellious) 107

Can I get some research/input about the trivials?

[Mud]

This is relevant for the bracer trivials, which are too high. I'll look for something more specific than <=123.

Here is a capture of EQ Traders from October 7, 2001: https://web.archive.org/web/20011007190336/http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_tailoring_erudite.htm. The trivials for the Imbued deity-specific Steelsilk is stated as <=123 for all pieces. For non-Imbued, non-deity-specific Steelsilk, the trivial is stated as >169 for all pieces.

[Sorn]

From Lokari's tailoring guide (http://www.lokari.net/everquest/cultural.html#steelsilk_armor - last updated March 4, 2004):

Steelsilk (non-imbued) has trivials >165 while all the imbued stuff is <135.

This site (http://eqruckus.tripod.com/cultural_tailoring.htm - unknown update date) both supports and adds info:

Steelsilk (non-imbued) has trivials >170 while all the imbued stuff is <=119

The ones there now may be accurate but so many of them being 107 is a bit odd. The bracers should be pretty low to match.

The second link in the quote took its info from EQTC from before 2005, and everything I can find in the wayback machine suggests they've always been <=119.

[nilbog]

On eqtc, all of the imbued steelsilk recipes are > 240. Is this a case of them raising the cap later or what?

http://www.eqtraders.com/recipes/recipe_page.php?article=156&rsa=Tailoring&rc=ERU&sb=item&sub=cultural&menustr=080040040040

[Sorn]

On Alla, the trivials are still low. The page snapshots from 2001 reflect the lower trivials. I am fairly sure they raised the trivials as part of the cultural tradeskill revamp in a later expansion.

[nilbog]

Changed bracers to 107 trivial, pending update.