Should I try Red?

[Kaziel]

I need 1 simple question answered to decide.

Am I going to be happily leveling and suddenly be ganked for no reason other than "PvP".
If so I'm not interested.
In other words, is it mainly used to settle disputes or do ppl pvp just to annoy you?

[Imago]

Sounds like you don't enjoy PvP.

Back to blue!

[Ella`Ella]

People don't PvP just to annoy someone else, they PvP to entertain themselves.

If you don't like PvP, pack your shit up back to blue and wait in the pixel welfare line where you have to wait your turn for a camp.

[quido]

fuck off back to blue

[Slathar]

I need 1 simple question answered to decide.

Am I going to be happily leveling and suddenly be ganked for no reason other than "PvP".
If so I'm not interested.
In other words, is it mainly used to settle disputes or do ppl pvp just to annoy you?

you'll be fine, come on over.

[Kaziel]

I'll be staying on Blue, you really are all that retarded. Enjoy your dead server.

[Baler]

Group exp bonus on red is nice.
Camps are far less camped.
Prices are more reasonable for items.

You should atleast give red a fair shot. It's a different beast then blue that I think a lot of people miss out on.
Don't listen to people on the forums get some first hand experience. I've never had a terrible time on red.
No one has ever camped my corpse or called me names. I've had to deal with some thieves in groups but that's just part of the fun.

[quido]

The part most of you retard weaklings are too stupid and impatient to understand is that most people will make friends with you after they fight you.

[Jah]

you'll be fine, come on over.

[pgerman]

you'll be fine, come on over.

Me and slathar start newbie groups all the time, most of the people on this server are really friendly

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

fuck off back to blue

[Smedy]

slathar problably the most cool and normal player on red99

[warioman91]

I'll be staying on Blue, you really are all that retarded. Enjoy your dead server.

Hey the people on the forum are obnoxious. But look at me I'm new to the game completely.
When playing here on RED, people have been very helpful.

Since the server does echo pvp kills, I can see they do happen occasionally, but really not that often. You're not going to get ganked just running around. Higher level stuff, ya maybe, but even then it seems to be during a raid and one guy comes in trying to be annoying which has the whole server mocking it.

[wwoneo]

Honestly, I would play on red if they gave the exp bonus solo in addition to group bonus. I have limited time, as do a lot of people, and I don't feel like spending more of my leisure time on finding a group as to just playing the game.

P.S. Yumyums for president

[Aesop]

there is a server group exp bonus, i soloed on my necro almost all the way to 50 and it was p.easy

[Swish]

Same on my wizard, not too terrible...even the hell levels.

[maerilith]

Yes, you will love red.

[cronik]

Never understood the push towards groups here. It's the sole reason I had no real interest.

the "you can solo without the huge group bonus" argument is stupid. A large portion of the people here are min/maxxers. We can't just give up on group efficiency if it exists and is an option.

Fuck PUGs too. Just let people solo if they want, and balance group with solo xp rates (roughly). Incentivizing groups over solo efforts just makes no bloody sense... Unless you're a bluebie pussy and need to feel safe with a small army around you.

[HippoNipple]

Never understood the push towards groups here. It's the sole reason I had no real interest.

the "you can solo without the huge group bonus" argument is stupid. A large portion of the people here are min/maxxers. We can't just give up on group efficiency if it exists and is an option.

Fuck PUGs too. Just let people solo if they want, and balance group with solo xp rates (roughly). Incentivizing groups over solo efforts just makes no bloody sense... Unless you're a bluebie pussy and need to feel safe with a small army around you.

The idea was to encourage group dependent classes which also happens to be important classes for raiding. Group exp ended up boosting the number of melee and clerics quite a bit.

[Doctor Jeff]

Am I going to be happily leveling and suddenly be ganked for no reason other than "PvP".

TL;DR whole thread.

Yes. You will be minding your own business killing some mobs and suddenly find yourself dead because a twink one shotted you. It will happen.

[cronik]

The idea was to encourage group dependent classes which also happens to be important classes for raiding. Group exp ended up boosting the number of melee and clerics quite a bit.

You make it sound like that's a good thing. (Raiding)

I wonder if r99 didn't make grouping so easy that there wouldn't have been such easy raiding guilds formed. Ie craptons more solo classes = less established raiders and more chaos in the fields/spawn competition, instead of raiding. Ya you'd have lesser pixels, but there'd be more chaos and small guilds scrapping.

Could empire have become a thing if people rolled necros and druids instead of tanks and clerics? It's a lot harder to feed a guild like empire when there's not so many warm bodies to fill necessary slots.

[cronik]

I'm sure it was.

Im also sure that if you didn't need to mass recruit, you wouldn't have.

No one leads a guild that large for funsies.

[HippoNipple]

You make it sound like that's a good thing. (Raiding)

I wonder if r99 didn't make grouping so easy that there wouldn't have been such easy raiding guilds formed. Ie craptons more solo classes = less established raiders and more chaos in the fields/spawn competition, instead of raiding. Ya you'd have lesser pixels, but there'd be more chaos and small guilds scrapping.

Could empire have become a thing if people rolled necros and druids instead of tanks and clerics? It's a lot harder to feed a guild like empire when there's not so many warm bodies to fill necessary slots.

People were rolling classes they liked and then just quitting because they couldn't level or progress. You are not going to find a dev that wants to put together an EQ server that caters to you playing solo. Hardcore players will still PL their friends to utilize best end game classes but the idea was to give casuals or new people to the server a path if they wanted to play group depended classes and it actually worked.

Sorry this impedes on your play style but luckily no one depends on your play style, meaning no one cares if you are upset.

[Sear]

Am I going to be happily leveling and suddenly be ganked for no reason other than "PvP".
If so I'm not interested.


I'll be staying on Blue, you really are all that retarded. Enjoy your dead server.

"Blue server players don't try pvp because the red community is toxic"

blue guy asks question that is answered honestly (IS THAR PVP?), then responds by calling everyone retarded

+ will probably go tell all his blue friends that everyone on red is retarded



Enjoy your safe space and never knowing how hollow this game is when you schedule camp times instead of fighting for them + the only purpose to your gear progression is to get marginally better at killing braindead NPCs.

[Nirgon]

plenty of brain dead players to kill too pal

[Sear]

loving that High Sparrow avatar pal

dude is like ten steps ahead of everyone in King's Landing

+ made kewl shoes and was a pimp once

[Sodors Finest Poster]

The real pvp happens in EC tunnel anyways, so theres that.

[Buhbuh]

Seems like the ole Sparrow is gonna go down, and he's gonna bring a lot down with him.

He might get away if he's got some homemade PF Flyers or some Jordan's.

[Labanen]

I'll be staying on Blue, you really are all that retarded. Enjoy your dead server.who is the most retarded, the idiot who throlls a thread, or the idiot who judge an entire server population based on 4 people from arguebly the most toxic forum on the planet?

That said, pvp happens for the sake of pvp, and some of them are level 20 with fungis and raid weapons. It will suck sometimes, but not most of the time.

[Sear]

funniest thing about blue server players criticizing red for being toxic or "retarded deathmatch", etc., is that it's much closer to traditional RPG design than blue is

you crawl dungeons on red and there's an element of surprise and unpredictability (because players may attack you or show up unannounced) to the experience

you might (/gasp) have to improvise or actually react to something other than predictable NPC pathing

[notinmyname]

The part most of you retard weaklings are too stupid and impatient to understand is that most people will make friends with you after they fight you.

And then later, after in guilds and camping high camps... Back stab and " settle conflicts "...

These blue players don't realize how worthless leveling pvp is... So what if you get ganked... Just fucking play and if you don't like getting killed them don't die.

[Malevz]

empire was run on the back of fewer than 15 key players

I'd like to suggest I was the glue, that held together the cogs that was Empire.

[Videri]

I'd like to suggest I was the glue, that held together the cogs that was Empire.

Ah, someone put glue on the cogs???? No wonder they stopped turning.

[Tewaz]

Back when the Fungi twinks would roll into MM and there were 3+ groups it got really fun. Became more like a mini raid boss.

[SamwiseRed]

naw bosses can't plug which is what happened 99% of the time.

[Izmael]

Back when the Fungi twinks would roll into MM and there were 3+ groups it got really fun. Became more like a mini raid boss.

Sad thing is that the twink would win 99% of the time ;)

[AzzarTheGod]

Ah, someone put glue on the cogs???? No wonder they stopped turning.

Decidedly not funny.

[Tewaz]

Yeah, totally got stomped by the twinks. PVP newbs don't know to not follow them into Lesser Faydark.

[warioman91]

The part most of you retard weaklings are too stupid and impatient to understand is that most people will make friends with you after they fight you.

Wow, that logic.

Asheron's Call on their Red server:

Let me grief you, but then forcibly demand your attention so that I can help you. And if you don't give me that attention, I will kill you again.

[Doctor Jeff]

This guy (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243496) had a different experience.

[bubur]

this thread is rly moranic

[bubur]

i mean rly who would base their opinion of our excellent eq server solely on forums without even logging in

i liked the part where he called us all retards tho

[Zozo]

Yes.