More rules sucks. it won't kill p99 , but this can...

[Turp]

Hello this is a post about this server and its future. Coming from a 15+ year EQ player. These are my thoughts to the new rules (and old) and new threats arising.
I originally wrote this in a RNF post but after reading over what I wrote and editing out the flames , I decided to post it here in server chat. It really deserves more attention then being stuck in the back of a rnf thread.
I guarantee if these issues are not dealt with or looked into then it will slowly kill the current servers that so much of us love. Results are easy to see , it is as simple as a 2+2 when you know how this shit works. Servers dying are inevitable , but I feel the speed will pick up if this stuff is left unchecked.

Since having a variance of 16 hours (non classic) I've seen a lot of people leave due to burnout and yet new ones come.
BUT ( You only have a limited amount of these players , before you run out)
It sucks and is very likely that in the future this will be looked at as a main culprit in "killing the server" and honestly this high variance probably kills real people in real life. (change it , it is unhealthy , it is unclassic) .
With GM recently stating they want more variance and "will not lower it" , then I guess we will have to deal with it. Even 10 hour variance would take the edge off and literally save lives both in game and RL. They don't have to remove it , rather modify. By all means though , do the server as you wish, you made it. I just play.

The Killer ... The "dagger to the heart of p1999". I am using killer instead of killers because I'm sure at least 1 (or more) of these will fall short. But really common sense should ring your bell here. with so many daggers being thrown , 1 is bound to strike a deadly blow. This is just a little dose of MMORPG 101.

1. Pantheon - EQ1 version 2.0? will see. It is going to be hard for a new company to match the fear factor of classic EQ. Mainly due to the carebear generations being raised. And corporate greed. I will say this though , I would rather play with a Casual p99er > Carebear all day.

2. A new Project 1999 blue / red with accurate Timeline. This is more a savior than a killer in some aspects but eluding to the current two servers , this would be a dagger to the heart. It could be 1 month or 1 year etc. , Doesn't matter because it WILL decline the current servers until only a crazy person population would remain. Unless new custom content was released which it has been talked about but highly doubtful ... I think a big factor would be will they still keep 16 hour variance and would they have some GM events.

3. Camelot Unchained - More of a red killer

4.Uthgaard DAoC again - more of a red killer. Another unlikely scenario but I would definitely (if i was in Rogean's shoes) push a hard coded teams 99 before Uthgaard release because Vallon zek in 1999-2002 ish was the shit before Sony decided to allow X/Cross teaming.

There are more but these are the ones to worry about. These threats could be combated and could be beaten.
BUT With the decline of staff presence we have seen over the years.
I guess the real question would be WILL staff even consider putting up a "fight"?
They do not get paid , so it is very likely these threats will go unchallenged.

What do you think?

[Sancta]

The only thing on your list that might reduce the pop on p99 is Pantheon which, keep in mind, is in early early alpha.

I don't see any project willing to replicate P99. So far P2002 and/or takproject are past Velious by 2+ more expansions and IMO their boxing policies shoot themselves in the foot. I really believe many more people would play on those servers if the boxing policy was similar to this server.

In regards to DoAC being a red killer - can't kill something that is dead, ayy. I played there, it's like 130 ppl on a good day?

Like the post. +1, fun to speculate.

[Turp]

Thanks. Appreciate the response.
I think You kind of misunderstood. Because the project for sure will live on. It is the current servers that I was speaking of. They are already so top heavy and no more content coming. In fact content has actually been removed (the sleepers dragons). That it is inevitable the current servers are gonna die out. It is a matter of when not if.
Top it off with some 16 hour pull your hair out variance that I would wager if you took a legit in game poll would be voted down. I don't want big poop socks, and am not asking them to remove it. Just tone it down. It was ok in kunark but it is very over the top in Velious.
If it was not voted down (very unlikely) that would be because the casual guilds fail to realize a lesser variance would in turn give them more loot. (getting off the topic you mentioned sorry , But I will say my point on this subject in particular is very strong and being a veteran mmorpg gamer I have seen it all (well except virtual reality EQ or really any fantasy MMO VR. can you say ...YES PLEASE?)
Again not saying remove variance. just saying...
a lesser variance = more attempts at dragons for the casual p99 player. PERIOD.

I was just trying to maybe get them to take a 2nd glance and slow the death , rather than ignore the aforementioned and the end result would be the speeding of the death of the current p99 servers. They can very easily make new p99s and this stuff honestly (at least for me) would never get old. It is called Evercrack for a reason : )

I agree with what You said "red is dead", now some don't want to admit that.
Those that do not are the true hardcores mixed with people I mentioned above aka crazy. I think even the red players that are sane can agree with that. An why let Uthgaard and Camelot take and immerse these players in some real fun pvp (played daoc and EQ for years. They are both very fun , and the teams pvp of EQ classic era IMO was better than DAOC realm wars , but if u got a bunch of time spent on another server you are more likely to stay there.)

It is also more than likely that they will throw this out as an attack or rant when in reality it is just the truth and an attempt to greatly slow the death of what we currently have.
This is not an attack and is in fact the exact opposite. I am calling for a Defense.

[Pokesan]

Full spawn length variance with skips

Competition is important because reasons

[khanable]

96 hour windows.

make these swollen ankle diabetes motherfuckers die of congestive heart failure while staring at a wall for 96 hours

[Turp]

96 hour windows.

make these swollen ankle diabetes motherfuckers die of congestive heart failure while staring at a wall for 96 hours
Lol is funny to me but also sad. Because You and I both know...
If the boys in charge did what you said , than what you said would also occur. But seems like they wanna live under a rug around here :confused: and in the process are killing off people both in game and out (at least I hope it is unintentional). Has to be burnout. If they do not want to address the issue. Than IMO why not pass the torch or recruit some help?
Or Ask the people playing your server?... is it easier to label it as a rant and log it under the rug? Maybe. But will under the rug cause a mess? For sure. So enjoy it or speak up.

[Swish]

96 hour windows.


I think that might just kill someone, not even joking.

[Turp]

I think that might just kill someone, not even joking.
It would be like a lot of people jumping off a high building at the same time.
aka suicide. or murder? nah I do not think they do this intentional. So manslaughter? Yea maybe. How is that even a maybe, yet I still do not see the subject getting addressed.
Unless we stop the trolling ( future posters , I posted the same thing in RNF flame it there ) and post serious shit here. Than maybe we will get a answer as to why they still do 16 hour variance.

I guarantee that...
16 hour variance has killed people. It is not like that would be reported or a posted stat that variance on p99 caused problems that lead to death. It is wrote off as whatever sitting on your ass for long periods leading to death is called (i think it has many different names and options to take)
Most of us know not to sit that long but when you put a game server up. A game nick named ever crack , jack it up on some 16 hour+ windows that require real crack to track. You are going to be unintentionally killing people that do not know better.
I really wonder what the response would be to this accusation? "they should of known better"?
If Sony had did this than yea maybe the news would catch on. But a private emu?
No damn way the media would care enough to post about it.

Lets say they make the argument that my variance = RL death is just tin foil hat. blah blah. Well OK but with what I just mentioned above you can easily conclude this...
At the very least you are putting some people in poor health or near death .
all it takes is lower something they made from 16 to 10 or 8 and in return some people will not die or catch some crazy shit?
#LowerVARIANCE and #SaveTheNeckbeard2016

I can't believe I even have a solid foundation to stand on in this variance argument because it really is so off the wall bat shit crazy that it was not lowered by now.
#truthISstrangerTHANfiction

[Pokesan]

Kill the poopsockers.

[Pokesan]

It used to be about competition. Now every self-described "hardcore raider" is bitching about variance like an entitled millenial.

Y I K E S

[Turp]

It used to be about competition. Now every self-described "hardcore raider" is bitching about variance like an entitled millenial.

Y I K E S
Damn , can't spell or read? Take the baseless no facts non sense to RNF (please) where i posted thee exact same stuff. Only the entitled millennial or basic idiot would post something like you just did. Some weird troll new age millennial that gets an orgasmic like experience on the hopes that a post like yours would get this moved to RNF and "Under the rug".

It is not the same people that screamed competition that are now saying variance.
The hard-cores you are talking about left long ago. I can tell ya when too.
The day they implemented class R otation on this server, do you remember that? Or to busy forum questing?
Go write some more stories or something jeez and leave the trolling here alone.
If You got some facts or some ground to stand on. I'm all ears. But really?
I'll admit that there is a few left. But you are so far off you either do not know or are intentionally just trying to troll.
Y I K E S

[Pokesan]

didnt read :-)

[Lojik]

Fuck it....full variance. You could have Vulak respawn right on top of you right after death, or have to track him for 13 days. Throw in some earthquakes now and then. It might sound shitty, but every raid mob will always be in window.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

OP needs to go post at olganon. EQ Widows unite! End variance!

Don't underestimate the lure of sickness. By any rational measure, heroin addiction should not happen, but it does. These virtual worlds are dopamine-delivery devices just by other means. And yes, if that does not depress you enough, here is a photo of humans in cages:
http://i.imgur.com/cupUSbM.jpg

[Turp]

Lol at all you forum questers coming out.
So sad.
Won't talk that shit in RNF. You guys are weak. Literally. Because you know what you are...Do you all also play trolls in EQ?
Or to busy with the forums? C'mon so weak. Post in RNF so I can roast you. Well if you have any thing to say besides 1-2 line non sense. Because a troll is not worth the time.

Any legit reasons why you want insane variance? Please explain.
Ah just trolling in a attempt to get shit stirred.

Praise the forum mods for not moving this yet. Should just move the obvious troll comments.

And if you are not a troll than the only other option is you guys are thinking that making non sense comments and baseless bullshit will shut down the lower variance movement. :"Yes! We will get more repops and a new class rotation system."
Which is completely dumb because lowering variance even to 8-10 hour would do damn near the same as your repop and for sure more than your rotation idea. While also not having that feeling of being spoon fed. Weak either way.

Good luck with that.

[Swish]

Lol at all you forum questers coming out.
So sad.
Won't talk that shit in RNF. You guys are weak. Literally. Because you know what you are...Do you all also play trolls in EQ?
Or to busy with the forums? C'mon so weak. Post in RNF so I can roast you. Well if you have any thing to say besides 1-2 line non sense. Because a troll is not worth the time.

Any legit reasons why you want insane variance? Please explain.
Ah just trolling in a attempt to get shit stirred.

Praise the forum mods for not moving this yet. Should just move the obvious troll comments.

And if you are not a troll than the only other option is you guys are thinking that making non sense comments and baseless bullshit will shut down the lower variance movement. :"Yes! We will get more repops and a new class rotation system."
Which is completely dumb because lowering variance even to 8-10 hour would do damn near the same as your repop and for sure more than your rotation idea. While also not having that feeling of being spoon fed. Weak either way.

Good luck with that.

http://i.imgur.com/r1647Os.png

[jcbbjjttt]

Kill the poopsockers.

Kill the poopsockers, save the world.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I'm feelin' the Bern

[Pokesan]

Lol at all you forum questers coming out.
So sad.
Won't talk that shit in RNF. You guys are weak. Literally. Because you know what you are...Do you all also play trolls in EQ?
Or to busy with the forums? C'mon so weak. Post in RNF so I can roast you. Well if you have any thing to say besides 1-2 line non sense. Because a troll is not worth the time.

Any legit reasons why you want insane variance? Please explain.
Ah just trolling in a attempt to get shit stirred.

Praise the forum mods for not moving this yet. Should just move the obvious troll comments.

And if you are not a troll than the only other option is you guys are thinking that making non sense comments and baseless bullshit will shut down the lower variance movement. :"Yes! We will get more repops and a new class rotation system."
Which is completely dumb because lowering variance even to 8-10 hour would do damn near the same as your repop and for sure more than your rotation idea. While also not having that feeling of being spoon fed. Weak either way.

Good luck with that.

I'm not trolling I just want socking to be punished as much as possible. It's harmful to the socker, other players, the staff, everyone really. It must end.

TFW your opinions are considered trolling :*(

[Swish]

Your opinion doesn't matter unless you want variance removed ofc

[Lojik]

Lol at all you forum questers coming out.
So sad.
Won't talk that shit in RNF. You guys are weak. Literally. Because you know what you are...Do you all also play trolls in EQ?
Or to busy with the forums? C'mon so weak. Post in RNF so I can roast you. Well if you have any thing to say besides 1-2 line non sense. Because a troll is not worth the time.

Any legit reasons why you want insane variance? Please explain.
Ah just trolling in a attempt to get shit stirred.

Praise the forum mods for not moving this yet. Should just move the obvious troll comments.

And if you are not a troll than the only other option is you guys are thinking that making non sense comments and baseless bullshit will shut down the lower variance movement. :"Yes! We will get more repops and a new class rotation system."
Which is completely dumb because lowering variance even to 8-10 hour would do damn near the same as your repop and for sure more than your rotation idea. While also not having that feeling of being spoon fed. Weak either way.

Good luck with that.

Why insane variance? Right now you can focus raid forces and prepark for specific mobs. Full variance means any time you try to focus somewhere, you could be in the wrong spot and forfeit a mob. Pre parking and tracking would be so time intensive that i think the whole system would break down, and maybe we could actually have people just playing everquest instead of lawyer quest 6 days a week.

[Nitsude]

Fuck it....full variance. You could have Vulak respawn right on top of you right after death, or have to track him for 13 days. Throw in some earthquakes now and then. It might sound shitty, but every raid mob will always be in window.

This. Switch set spawn time and variance.

Vulak -- 16 hr spawn time, 7 day variance
Vindi -- 1 hour spawn time, 8 hour variance

etc etc

Everything is like it is now because everything is predictable.

Edit -- Also, if you don't want conversation or debate on your topic, keep it to yourself.

[khanable]

>wants opinions
>mad opinions don't match his


>tells someone they can't read or spell
>actually can't spell

[Cecily]

Neat. There's actually people for long windows, again. I, too, support variance being set back to 96 windows, perhaps with extended variance. This won't kill anyone. It's shift work and only one person per guild can do it and maintain sanity. It's been done before. Now the server has so many raid guilds it should be done again.

[Turp]

>wants opinions
>mad opinions don't match his


Wow. You to? Where do they make a point for insane variance. Please elaborate.
O I see. Your opinion was so great. I will just gladly agree and post that fellow players (actual people , i know is hard for you troll to understand that) should die, you want me to bash diabetics and overweight people. Wow man your so cool.

Nah you are just scared to enter RNF and get ate.
Looks like ill see you all there soon anyway. Please keep it up I am trying to learn how to get high off posting on a forum. PLEASE teach me the secrets. I have to be doing something right to get mass amounts of 2000+ posters to comment. Hitting a nerve or your getting high. which is it

[Pokesan]

1v1 me in rnf right now punk

[khanable]

Insane variance or zero variance - either or would be fine with me

And lol @ turp melting down faster than a prime time nagafen

RNF DUEL ME BRO

[Turp]

Neat. There's actually people for long windows, again. I, too, support variance being set back to 96 windows, perhaps with extended variance. This won't kill anyone. It's shift work and only one person per guild can do it and maintain sanity. It's been done before. Now the server has so many raid guilds it should be done again.

Red is pretty damn dead. That has been established girl. Do you really like it there? I seen ya on blue the other day so just checking. Also you are trying to ally against me , a person advocating for a new badass server (i understand if you missed the glory days of vallon zek classic - pop) But trust me. It is fun as fuck.
Are ya being for real. Fuck a new server keep red?
Now I won a damn title with you so I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. Even though we both know you have been trolling hard recently. And in this post You do not mention anything in the OP except you do repeat the past trolls that type MOAR (i cant spell cucumbers , halp me) VARIANCE without a base to stand on.
You said same shit about red than flipped once you tried it. It will be thee same if they ever hard code a teams server. Try it and you will buy it. One you go red yo...nvm
ps Come back and lets win another title because I am about to raise some hell and get another tourny down. Is the only option I have since a popular pvp server is not on the table.

and now , to the crew of try hards.

Guys. I agree. Let us keep variance. I am done trying to help people who want to just fight...but do not have the mental capacity to make out a sentence. Every single response besides the first guy , Cecily , +1 , o wow 3 people who didn't post troll ass gifs (swift) post dumb shit 1 liners or 2 liners (the rest of you) and those 3 people who was legit. I hear their side) I agree and we will keep variance. Enjoy. You people who forum quest daily are at a much higher risk than me. The casuals don't give a fuck. And I can't be giving you guys a free high sorry.

fuck this is retarded. I'll go get the real high ... you trolls are weak.

I expect better from p99 c'mon not even in RNF yet.
PLEASE DONT POST ANYMORE IT HURTS.
I CANT TAKE IT.

[Foxplay]

Reduce respawn timers of anything greater than 24hours, limit each guild to 1 kill per week of raid targets with the same name. The exact amount im not sure the ideal amount would be to still have some competition for targets, yet they respawn enough so that raiding on p99 is more than just simply poopsocking.

aka guild can kill all raid targets per week, but only gets 1 Cazic, 1 Vulak, 1Yelinak, etc etc etc.

reason for reduced spawn timers is simple. Everquest is old, so old that it cant support a player-base that knows the entire game from top to bottom. Raiding on P99 more than 90% of the time isn't about the ability or challange of defeating a target, its about simply getting the engage, which shifts the focus of the game to poopsocking. Imo server would be alot healthier and less toxic if it was more like "Oh our guild lost the race to Vulak on monday, oh well we will try for him or several other targets tommorw

[Pokesan]

no that just leads to shell guilds full of poopsocker alts

THEY MUST SUFFER

[Cecily]

I love you Turp. And I did mention your OP. I just disagree that shorter variance is a good thing. Like I said earlier this morning, it makes more people opt in. Good raiding conditions happen when more people opt out. We were in TMO during long variance and it was pretty damn chill. I think now that more guilds are wiling to track at all, unlike back then, long variance will seriously relax camping dargons simply because you can't have an intense force of 15 people sitting at a zone in for a week. It's retarded.

[Turp]

The real comedic part of all of this is that the majority of the shit on this server that's not classic and people still trying to use "not classic" as an argument.


Really ? that is laughable Eshan. They use it constantly to change stuff on this server. Every single change made has been on the stance of not classic. 10,000+ , ask Ele , Nearly every change has been made to make it more classic.

You (Eshan Evanstar) make some not classic dumb post that you are trying to say my OP is ( it is clearly not). Now I totally agree with ya fuck a classic variance.
I was trying to help , but it seems you guys are just to blind to see.

So please tell , what is not classic on this classic server. Do not list stuff that they have given good reason for like to prevent RMT or botters. What is not classic?
Just say it and they will change it.


Sailed over their heads, its going, going , gone.
Everyone so far off the mark. I should of just deleted the variance part maybe the thick heads would of understood the OPost. If the first line didn't enrage them than they could of maybe? seen the light. To bad. Enjoy your quest.

I might try you later Pokesan but tbh I have never seen a troll dodge as much as you did tonight. Has to feel pretty bad to be the weakest of them all. Yet you "tear down posters" lol. Good day job but GG , might want to find a new roll though because you dodged me for hours , than you wait until I'm ready to go get (something a forum quester only dreams of) to want to try to fight. Ill catch ya later because we both know , you will be here.

And Really Poke If I wanted to /bang head on wall all night. I'd just do that.
Just so I starve you of your forum quester high.

[Pokesan]

Really ? that is laughable Eshan. They use it constantly to change stuff on this server. Every single change made has been on the stance of not classic. 10,000+ , ask Ele , Nearly every change has been made to make it more classic.

You (Eshan Evanstar) make some not classic dumb post that you are trying to say my OP is ( it is clearly not). Now I totally agree with ya fuck a classic variance.
I was trying to help , but it seems you guys are just to blind to see.

So please tell , what is not classic on this classic server. Do not list stuff that they have given good reason for like to prevent RMT or botters. What is not classic?
Just say it and they will change it.


Sailed over their heads, its going, going , gone.
Everyone so far off the mark. I should of just deleted the variance part maybe the thick heads would of understood the OPost. If the first line didn't enrage them than they could of maybe? seen the light. To bad. Enjoy your quest.

I might try you later Pokesan but tbh I have never seen a troll dodge as much as you did tonight. Has to feel pretty bad to be the weakest of them all. Yet you "tear down posters" lol. Good day job but GG , might want to find a new roll though because you dodged me for hours , than you wait until I'm ready to go get (something a forum quester only dreams of) to want to try to fight. Ill catch ya later because we both know , you will be here.

And Really Poke If I wanted to /bang head on wall all night. I'd just do that.
Just so I starve you of your forum quester high.

nice meltdown

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

It's been done before. Now the server has so many raid guilds it should be done again.

What was shall be again?

You speak blasphemy.

[Turp]

I love you Turp. And I did mention your OP. I just disagree that shorter variance is a good thing. Like I said earlier this morning, it makes more people opt in.
And really i had this post made JUST for you. But I can't not respond to ole Pokey. So excuse me for including you in a post with him. Like EQ , i gotta get them FQ levels and I am in chadok AE mode tonight.

<3 u too and please , I would like to know what you are planning on doing with this daoc part. I really don't see a new 1999 pvp server coming , at least not as fast as Uthgaard.

And on your first post really ... I didn't even see it at all. My forum quester must be bugged or something. Like this post you just made at first glance I just seen the I love you Turp. Hell who knows...my head has been so cloudy from a crazy weekend of 16 hour variance and some ;)legal activities.
So that is how you beat me I guess. Because I agree.

I took a shot as being a forum warrior but no way in hell I could keep up this shit and take their dragons. I was not embraced but fuck em.
If they do not do a new pvp 99...than you gotta try DAOC Uthgaard. realm vs realm is pretty fun shit and there will be tons of people to explode...ps u ever play daoc in the past im assuming yes but j/w? and would you play the Uthgaard (p1999 of daoc) ? I hope you will. Pretty sure a p99 crew would wreck the battlefield. If ya do we can team up some more and you 1v2 some scrubs :D I tried red but i KNOW for a fact that a teams server 99 would shit stomp red FFA. Population Fun and if hard coded, quality wise.

nice meltdown

Ouch.

Hey Poke ...I am still in server chat bro.:confused: Wtf MINDBLOWN i am losing it! my mind is literally melting! ITS MELTING!

I thought p99 had the hardcore trolls...damn...they must of left when the hardcore elite attitude went out the door. They tend to go hand in hand in life.

PS... ill give ya the ps later buddy.

[Troubled]

nutso

[Turp]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189856

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189856

Uh... so You link the shit rules , that I literally said sucks in the title of this thread and shit that I would not mind a bit to change. Or keep.
Than try to attack me because I dunno? Really confusing but...
Also I didn't realize you was new.
Now we have been lawless here before. And I'd rather have it lawless Eshan. But haha they will never remove most those rules ever. (the casuals especially , i am sure they are scarred) They would cry up a storm so damn fast and anyone who knows the history of p99 can confirm this.
Those rules keep you safe. Trust me.

I really think that the variance part I wrote in OP clouded some judgement.

[Cecily]

<3 u too and please , I would like to know what you are planning on doing with this daoc part. I really don't see a new 1999 pvp server coming , at least not as fast as Uthgaard.

Oh I absolutely plan on trying it out. No experience with DAoC whatsoever and apparently Nightshades are a horrible beginner's char, but I'm looking forward to a challenge. Magic user / assassin is what I played in L2, and I really miss 1 shotting casters. Would be super fun to have you along ganking people with me.

[Pokesan]

Fuck it....full variance. You could have Vulak respawn right on top of you right after death, or have to track him for 13 days. Throw in some earthquakes now and then. It might sound shitty, but every raid mob will always be in window.

opinion status: cool and good

lets do it!

[tristantio]

Oh I absolutely plan on trying it out. No experience with DAoC whatsoever and apparently Nightshades are a horrible beginner's char, but I'm looking forward to a challenge. Magic user / assassin is what I played in L2, and I really miss 1 shotting casters. Would be super fun to have you along ganking people with me.

Most the stealthers back in DAOC days were using buff bots (second account dedicated entirely to stat buffs, which had no expiration timer as long as you were in same zone as the buffer) to be strong enough to 1 shot casters who weren't sitting (or under level, like sub-50), so it would be interesting to see how it goes if Uthgaard doesn't allow boxing.

[Turp]

Most the stealthers back in DAOC days were using buff bots (second account dedicated entirely to stat buffs, which had no expiration timer as long as you were in same zone as the buffer) to be strong enough to 1 shot casters who weren't sitting (or under level, like sub-50), so it would be interesting to see how it goes if Uthgaard doesn't allow boxing.

Yea I told her that buffs was big in DAOC. They say no buff bots but if they are not ran like p99 i see people circumventing that easy. And especially at launch with SO many people. How can they control it? Got a big staff ?

[jcr4990]

Read first post and skipped the rest. In case nobody else mentioned it. This server survived 5 years of Kunark with a shittier raid scene than we have right now with casual guilds getting even less raid targets than they're getting now with the top 1-2 guilds getting an even bigger slice of the available pixel pie.

Your doomsday mindset is drastically underestimating how addicted people are to this video game. The server isn't even close to dying. Does the raid scene suck in a lot of ways? Sure as shit does. But it's been worse for literally YEARS at a time and it's still here. I don't get how you can possibly think it will be different this time.

[Turp]

Read first post and skipped the rest. In case nobody else mentioned it. This server survived 5 years of Kunark with a shittier raid scene than we have right now with casual guilds getting even less raid targets than they're getting now with the top 1-2 guilds getting an even bigger slice of the available pixel pie.

Your doomsday mindset is drastically underestimating how addicted people are to this video game. The server isn't even close to dying. Does the raid scene suck in a lot of ways? Sure as shit does. But it's been worse for literally YEARS at a time and it's still here. I don't get how you can possibly think it will be different this time.

Ok...of course. I don't think You read past the first line. If you did you misunderstood or do not know how MMORPG work.
I stated p99 will be here forever. Its ever crack. BUT the specific 2 servers we have now will be toast and you saying they will survive what my first post said is wishful thinking at best.

At the very least read this one and reply, please
Do You honestly think p99 blue our current server will be thriving alive forever IF a new p99 blue server 2.0 was released this month ? One that followed the correct no 5 year kunark timeline?
That is what you claim in your post, and I mentioned that in the first post so either you believe it or you are lying or not very good at reading comprehension. Which is it.
Now after realizing that you just skimmed and didn't read (what im assuming).
Do you still feel the way you posted?
Because if its lying or believing still , I will see ya whenever they do release some of my predictions.

It is not a doomsday mindset its common fact.
I have gamed my whole life and I cannot even think of a server still fully alive that i played on, you must be lucky or just made a honest reading mistake. Will be nice to know what you believe.

[jcr4990]

Ok...of course. I don't think You read past the first line. If you did you misunderstood or do not know how MMORPG work.
I stated p99 will be here forever. Its ever crack. BUT the specific 2 servers we have now will be toast and you saying they will survive what my first post said is wishful thinking at best.

At the very least read this one and reply, please
Do You honestly think p99 blue our current server will be thriving alive forever IF a new p99 blue server 2.0 was released this month ? One that followed the correct no 5 year kunark timeline?
That is what you claim in your post, and I mentioned that in the first post so either you believe it or you are lying or not very good at reading comprehension. Which is it.
Now after realizing that you just skimmed and didn't read (what im assuming).
Do you still feel the way you posted?
Because if its lying or believing still , I will see ya whenever they do release some of my predictions.

It is not a doomsday mindset its common fact.
I have gamed my whole life and I cannot even think of a server still fully alive that i played on, you must be lucky or just made a honest reading mistake. Will be nice to know what you believe.I'm honestly surprised Red isn't already shut down. 72 people on the entire server right now. How is that even worth the server cost?

As far as Blue obviously if a new Blue 2.0 or Green99 server was launched Blue would see a HUGE population decrease. I think a good chunk of people would stick around though. Lots of the more casual folk that don't want to start all over and will finally see the endgame content open up to them cause I'd imagine a vast majority of the top tier raid guilds will start on the new server. But we're kinda getting ahead of ourselves on this subject aren't we? A new blue server or Green99 is soooooooooooooo far off if it even happens at all. Remember Discord server that was supposed to come out like... 6 months ago or whatever? A whole lot of worrying about something that isn't happening for years or maybe never imo.

[Brontus]

Can someone explain what "16 hour variance" means?

Thanks :)

[ArumTP]

Can someone explain what "16 hour variance" means?

Thanks :)


Raid target dies. The mob will re spawn 7 days, and in the case of a few mobs 3 days, + or - 8 hours from the last time the raid target died. The mob characterized as having a 16 hour varied window.

[NarcolepticLTD]

I thought it just had something to do with how many changes of socks needed to camp the mob...

[Turp]

I'm honestly surprised Red isn't already shut down. 72 people on the entire server right now. How is that even worth the server cost?

As far as Blue obviously if a new Blue 2.0 or Green99 server was launched Blue would see a HUGE population decrease. I think a good chunk of people would stick around though. Lots of the more casual folk that don't want to start all over and will finally see the endgame content open up to them cause I'd imagine a vast majority of the top tier raid guilds will start on the new server. But we're kinda getting ahead of ourselves on this subject aren't we? A new blue server or Green99 is soooooooooooooo far off if it even happens at all. Remember Discord server that was supposed to come out like... 6 months ago or whatever? A whole lot of worrying about something that isn't happening for years or maybe never imo.

Surprised with the response and appreciate it. Because the trolls would of just acted like they had a typo or something , throwing stuff at the wall in desperate hopes of it sticking. Takes a man to admit shit.

[Ravager]

I'm honestly surprised Red isn't already shut down. 72 people on the entire server right now. How is that even worth the server cost?

As far as Blue obviously if a new Blue 2.0 or Green99 server was launched Blue would see a HUGE population decrease. I think a good chunk of people would stick around though. Lots of the more casual folk that don't want to start all over and will finally see the endgame content open up to them cause I'd imagine a vast majority of the top tier raid guilds will start on the new server. But we're kinda getting ahead of ourselves on this subject aren't we? A new blue server or Green99 is soooooooooooooo far off if it even happens at all. Remember Discord server that was supposed to come out like... 6 months ago or whatever? A whole lot of worrying about something that isn't happening for years or maybe never imo.

Probably wouldn't be a huge population decrease on blue. Both servers will be played simultaneously by a lot of people.

[arsenalpow]

Probably wouldn't be a huge population decrease on blue. Both servers will be played simultaneously by a lot of people.

Pretty much this. The casual crowds will be like "omg a chance to get a guise and manastone" only to find those camps are locked down by a nonstop hardcore syndicate selling the drops.

[Malevz]

nutso

Lahey you drunk bastard.

[jwargod]

Pretty much this. The casual crowds will be like "omg a chance to get a guise and manastone" only to find those camps are locked down by a nonstop hardcore syndicate selling the drops.

Phinny was refreshing in that regard. The boxers initially tried to lock down camps across instances but the box armies didn't work out without program use and actually attentive GMs this time around.

ALthough I live in the middle of mountains and forest now and can't play any online game now.

[Swish]

The wind changed direction again. I remember someone from BDA saying there should be another server because raid targets here are too contested.

You guys are the worst.

[Secrets]

Here's an idea: remove all rules when you engage a raid NPC, and let it be a dps race, training allowed, complete and utter chaos. Let's see if anything dies.

I bet people will coordinate with each other then.

[Spyder73]

Here's an idea: remove all rules when you engage a raid NPC, and let it be a dps race, training allowed, complete and utter chaos. Let's see if anything dies.

I bet people will coordinate with each other then.

Classic

[maskedmelon]

Here's an idea: remove all rules when you engage a raid NPC, and let it be a dps race, training allowed, complete and utter chaos. Let's see if anything dies.

I bet people will coordinate with each other then.

This was my idea. *high five*

[thufir]

I guarantee if these issues are not dealt with or looked into then it will slowly kill the current servers that so much of us love. Results are easy to see , it is as simple as a 2+2 when you know how this shit works. Servers dying are inevitable , but I feel the speed will pick up if this stuff is left unchecked.

Since having a variance of 16 hours (non classic) I've seen a lot of people leave due to burnout and yet new ones come.
BUT ( You only have a limited amount of these players , before you run out)
It sucks and is very likely that in the future this will be looked at as a main culprit in "killing the server" and honestly this high variance probably kills real people in real life. (change it , it is unhealthy , it is unclassic) .

oh look, it's another hardcore raider who thinks that their way is the only way anyone else plays and that they make up the majority of the server. I am shocked, shocked. "how could nixon have won? I don't know anyone who voted for him"

do the math sometime man. those low levels out there aren't all raider alts. it's not like crushbone or mistmoore empties whenever mobs are in window.

back on live during this era, most people never saw VP or NToV. it didn't kill eq.

[Lictor]

It's best to ignore and not let people get to you when they start out a novel with, 'I've done nothing with my life but play eq for 15 years.'

[Calibretto]

Wipe it clean 2016.