8th ring roll

[topgun1027]

12:00am EST is new ring roll timer turn in :10 ish be there and prepared gl hf

No reason to roll 30 min before the turn in.

[Erati]

agree i was annoyed people waited up to 12-15 min before anything would happen

midnight makes sense but maybe one more night of warning those at 11:45

[spanky_kc]

Does this change at all with the server reset? or will the roll still be on the same timer?

[Trungep99]

Excuse me , but you asked people last night if it was okay to change the time and 2 people responded NO. Take this to a vote before changing anything. You basically said you are changing the time as if you had any authority to do so with no one supporting you. Tonight has to remain at xx:45, you started this conversation after people logged off after losing the roll.
And yes the extra helps people get their friends to run to the middle of EW to help them.
Thank you.

[Fragged]

We can try slowly moving it to the xx00 mark, but it would take a few times where we are still there at xx45, so we make sure there is not anyone showing up at xx45 and rolling/logging out again.

Let's do it! =)

[Swish]

Is someone claiming to be busy at 11.45 so midnight is better?

Who has OCD?

[Varren]

Roll red today

[Erati]

Is someone claiming to be busy at 11.45 so midnight is better?

Who has OCD?

the npc doesnt spawn til around 12:10 so rolling at 11:45 means you have to wait nearly 25 min to just turn in

by rolling at midnight - you only have to wait 5-6 min before the quest can be moved forward, just makes more sense to have roll closer to the npc spawn so theres less funny business after people realize they lost

[Trungep99]

the npc doesnt spawn til around 12:10 so rolling at 11:45 means you have to wait nearly 25 min to just turn in

by rolling at midnight - you only have to wait 5-6 min before the quest can be moved forward, just makes more sense to have roll closer to the npc spawn so theres less funny business after people realize they lost

I feel this method assumes those rolling will help with the quest. Otherwise it discriminates against those from smaller guilds because not everyone is in large guilds to get quick support. I'm just trying to be fair for everyone by saying a half hour in advance.

[Blitzers]

Can't understand why you'd advertise ring roll time.

[SowIsLifeSowIsLove]

I feel this method assumes those rolling will help with the quest. Otherwise it discriminates against those from smaller guilds because not everyone is in large guilds to get quick support. I'm just trying to be fair for everyone by saying a half hour in advance.

Makes sense to me.

[Doctor Jeff]

Feels like this change benefits you and you alone. Thanks for the tip but I think everyone agrees the time to roll is XX:45

[topgun1027]

Excuse me , but you asked people last night if it was okay to change the time and 2 people responded NO. Take this to a vote before changing anything. You basically said you are changing the time as if you had any authority to do so with no one supporting you. Tonight has to remain at xx:45, you started this conversation after people logged off after losing the roll.
And yes the extra helps people get their friends to run to the middle of EW to help them.
Thank you.

Incorrect 5 people were agreeing to change the time. There is no point in sitting around for 30 minutes or so. If you plan to do the ring roll bring friends the Chief is easily soloed by some classes. Generally people will help you I have stayed around to help the winner multiple times.

There is no set time I personally need to do this but it just makes more sense to have the roll closer to the actual mob spawn time. If you can't view it that way well that is unfortunate.

And advertising the time isn't anything negative.. if someone wants to find the timer out its easy.

[azeth]

There is no set time I personally need to do this but it just makes more sense to have the roll closer to the actual mob spawn time. If you can't view it that way well that is unfortunate..

makes far more sense to roll far in advance for people to gather the help they need

[topgun1027]

makes far more sense to roll far in advance for people to gather the help they need

Not in my eyes to each their own. I come prepared.

[Trungep99]

Incorrect 5 people were agreeing to change the time. .

There is no set time I personally need to do this but it just makes more sense to have the roll closer to the actual mob spawn time. If you can't view it that way well that is unfortunate.
f someone wants to find the timer out its easy.

-my guess is that it is 5 people all in the same guild.

-I origionally stated that if you want to change when the roll happens you should create a poll and see how people respond to it. But just reviewing this thread there are plenty of people who disagree with changing the time sooner to the spawn.

[Swish]

Not in my eyes to each their own. I come prepared.

Why don't the roll losers help the roll winner?

[Trungep99]

Why don't the roll losers help the roll winner?

some people do, but not everyone is available to. i usually go to bed due to the late hour if i lose the roll , if it was a few hours earlier i would stay to help. for me i can say even if the roll was closer to spawn, i wouldnt be able to stay to help at a late hour since i need my rest for work.

[zanderklocke]

makes far more sense to roll far in advance for people to gather the help they need

No skin in the game at all, but this makes sense to me. 30 minutes is hardly much time to wait in EQ and better than wasting multiple players' time to show up to help if you lose the roll. Granted, if all people rolling agree to help, who cares then?

Don't know the original poster, but I thought this was sort of a funny thread to read.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156625

[Daldaen]

You wouldn't need time to gather a force if you rolled 5min before the spawn to roll.

People are way more likely to help a stranger if it is a 5-10 minute affair rather than a wait 30 minutes then a 5-10 minute affair.

[zanderklocke]

You wouldn't need time to gather a force if you rolled 5min before the spawn to roll.

People are way more likely to help a stranger if it is a 5-10 minute affair rather than a wait 30 minutes then a 5-10 minute affair.

If this is the case, then I guess it doesn't really matter how close people roll. You think players will help though?

[Daldaen]

They commonly did when I was showing up to help, I usually did as well unless I had a raid I needed to head to.

I think it's a common mentality of most players on the server. If I'm not doing much, and you need me to stick around for 5-10minutes to complete a big quest, I'm usually inclined to do so. You really only need 1-2 people to stick around.

But if you want me to wait 30-40 minutes and then another 5-10minutes as the script unfolds, I'm far less likely to want to sink an hour of my free time into helping someone finish up their quest, especially on nights or days when an hour is about all the time I get to be online.

Just my 2 cents.

[zanderklocke]

They commonly did when I was showing up to help, I usually did as well unless I had a raid I needed to head to.

I think it's a common mentality of most players on the server. If I'm not doing much, and you need me to stick around for 5-10minutes to complete a big quest, I'm usually inclined to do so. You really only need 1-2 people to stick around.

But if you want me to wait 30-40 minutes and then another 5-10minutes as the script unfolds, I'm far less likely to want to sink an hour of my free time into helping someone finish up their quest, especially on nights or days when an hour is about all the time I get to be online.

Just my 2 cents.

I just assumed people didn't wait around or only waited around to see if the roll winner messed up and couldn't get a force (i.e. Ragefire). That's good to know that the players actually help each other out.

[Daldaen]

Again, used to being the operative word. Almost no one waits around 40 minutes to help a random they don't know every single night. Which is why rolling so early I don't think is a good thing. But I guess if you're expecting no one to wait 5-10minutes if it's moved up I understand the stance wanting time to gather your friends I suppose.

[maskedmelon]

This is a stupid system. Just so you know...

[Akashx]

I propose a system where hoffinns can win.

[Akinero]

I have not been able to attend the ring roll this week due to time zone and earthquake messing it up for me. None the less i think its a coin flip, from my experience rolling at xx30 the losers would mostly log with 1 or 2 of us sticking around to help winner and give him enough time to bring some friends along to help. You cannot expect people to show up with a force ready to go when your gambling against 10+. With that being said if roll losers are willing to help the winner with a 5-10min npc spawn i would agree to this. Its an easy kill and everyone i have helped hands out the loot the 3 named drop which honestly isn't bad, whether you give to a newb or sell for a k, there is still potential for reward amongst the losers. But lets be honest, on this server its very rare to find help when everyone is salty they are not going to get the pixel. Just my 2c. Whatever happens ill be back to the shit show roll next week hopefully.

[syztem]

man, i enjoyed stealing someone elses ring 8 via pvp. and almost never having to wait or deal with lines to get any of it done. can't believe this far in blue still has lines on ring 8, probably scout too? ugh, what are people doing getting 5th alts ringed up or something.

[Culkasi]

man, i enjoyed stealing someone elses ring 8 via pvp. and almost never having to wait or deal with lines to get any of it done. can't believe this far in blue still has lines on ring 8, probably scout too? ugh, what are people doing getting 5th alts ringed up or something.

Not sure if you are trolling. There are 2.4 scouts per day, Velious has been out 257 days, thats 616 scouts - that is roughly the population of the server at 4-6am EST and probably the number of active raiders in the top 3-4 guilds combined - let alone all the rest. At this rate, all level 50+ mains will get Scout in a cpl of years, and that is even without all the people getting it for their alts.

Ring 8 is once a day, so yeah, 250 or so max, same as above applies, except that the issue is 2.4 times bigger :)

[syztem]

I just figure sure blue has a huger pop then red, but you cant deny how many are EC mules, sub 50s, people who casually play mixed in. if blue has an active 1k players always, chances are there are around 3-4k actual players just not all on at the same time. Red is mostly on the 60 or 55+ level for majority of server due to easy exp. Just considering server resets, down times, all that have been plenty of repops etc. But putting it like that assuming 1 ring per day 257 days. That isn't many, can see why there would still be a line I suppose but I bet a lot are still alts or second/third chars of power players willing to poopsock the time.

[mropey]

man, i enjoyed stealing someone elses ring 8 via pvp. and almost never having to wait or deal with lines to get any of it done. can't believe this far in blue still has lines on ring 8, probably scout too? ugh, what are people doing getting 5th alts ringed up or something.

Common sense answers this question. Please stay on Red.

[syztem]

Nope, I will continue to play blue occasionally(albeit still level 50-51 from cap) thanks though. I do enjoy running through seb for fun with 0 mob aggro, can't do that on red.

[Llurendt]

Lol, I've never even heard the term poopsock before looking into this server. Learn something new every day!

[4WOFURY]

I'd be happy to stay and help, as I always did before, if I didn't have to spend an hour to help with a 5 minute event.

It's completely ridiculous to do the ring roll over half an hour before the turn in. There is absolutely no reason for it...

[Trungep99]

when i won the roll last week only one person stayed to help me; so the extra time did help me get some of my guild out to EW to help.

[Bohab]

Server went up a little after 9:40pm EST? Soooo roll has changed to 9:30pm EST?

[Man0warr]

That's assuming someone did Ring 8 turn in right as server came up. Last earthquake/repop it didn't happen for an hour after or so.

[Bohab]

So what does this mean? Do we roll once we see it pop?

[Erati]

the roll reset from the server down id assume

[Trungep99]

My suggestion is to have everyone meet a half hour before spawn to figure it out.
Also I happen to be selling one vile of mind melt if anyone is looking to buy one.
Just send Trunge a tell :)