Iksar Bone Chip Quest

[Zziek]

Is the bone chip turn in quest for cabilis still bugged as I've seen mentioned on the wiki, where if one faction is maxed out you can no longer raise the other factions? I'm attempting to build Cabilis faction as a Wood Elf and I've maxed out my faction with the Legion of Cabilis, but the Crusaders of Greenmist are still scowling at me. When I hand in bone chips to Trooper Mozo, he mentions that he doesn't see four bone chips, but I'm still awarded the exp and faction messages.

I'm concerned that I won't be able to carry my faction any further, so I want to see if anybody is able to fill me in on whether or not I can move forward with bone chips or if I need to do something else.

[Swish]

Although you're handing in 4 the NPC processes it 1 at a time... so it adds them up before handing out the quest reward (coin/faction/etc).

If you can invis you'll be fine going to the bank (bank from the wall still) and traveling through, just be aware where the Crusaders are :p

[Zziek]

I figured I'm already set to go through the town, but I mostly wanted to go for the shock value of a wood elf in Cabilis. No invis or illusions.

Of course I don't really know how many Crusaders are actually in Cabilis, so I might be able to get away with that, but I'd love to somehow get them to at least Dubious as well.

I suppose that message doesn't really mean much, though, as long as the faction messages are still coming up? Since it's still adding them up, it's just spitting out a bad message.

[Boilon]

SK faction is the very LAST faction to raise if i remember my faction right... I did it with dark elf cleric Innoruuk so I don't think that it took me as long as it might for someone of a different race. I know that it was a pain in the fkin arse to do though and getting merchants to sell to you is nigh impossible.

I have managed to get my non-sk factions on my Erudite Mage Prexus to dubious. To be honest I am not sure the interactions of your class/race/god in factions if that might cause you to not be able to cap out if you are Tunare follower.

[Zziek]

Ok, I'll see if I notice a change at 8000 bone chips handed in. I'm a Wood Elf Bard under Bristlebane. I'm hoping being a bard puts me more neutral than the average wood elf. :P

[Boilon]

I mean if you follow http://wiki.project1999.com/Faction at all then it would be assumed max scowl to dubious will be only 1550 faction points, x4 bonechips is about 6200 bonechips. So that should be the MAX that you would have to turn in to reach dubious no? I mean the quest itself gives I THINK +5 to Legion faction, and like +2 to the rest with +1 to SK?
I think I only did something like 4k or less on my dark elf cleric

[Lojik]

If troopers is maxed u should still be able to max other factions. I can't find the thread atm, but uthgaard said there is additional hate for scaled mystics (shaman faction) for nec/wiz/bard/mag. Took me a looong time to get faction on my wiz. Crusader quarg is Sk but on scaled mystics. Curscale quest seemed to be good for merchant faction.

[Nuggie]

i went that route on my Delf necro. the sk's were definately last to raise. many bone chips later. i spent 3k in bone chips.

[Eras]

I am still handing in chips, guess I should have kept count. If I cast collaboration (+300 per the wiki) I am still scowls to Quarg (Oh how I hate that guy), but illusion iksar gets me to apprehensive without collaboration. All this so I can walk through the city there :)

[Lojik]

I am still handing in chips, guess I should have kept count. If I cast collaboration (+300 per the wiki) I am still scowls to Quarg (Oh how I hate that guy), but illusion iksar gets me to apprehensive without collaboration. All this so I can walk through the city there :)

I can't remember how many i turned in, it was pretty ridiculous. I think im ally with troopers, sks, and just dubious with the shaman guild. I wanna say it was 600 or so stacks (12000 chips) but i didnt keep track that well.

[Buellen]

I did this on live after Velious was released. Once i got the MAX Legion of cabalis message iT took 6800 bone chips turn in till SK where not Kos and coned dubious.

[Aalderon Crystafire]

I spent 8Kpp in Bone Chips to max them all, and killing a few thousand Forsaken Iksars to max Brood of Kotiz.

[Boilon]

I spent 8Kpp in Bone Chips to max them all, and killing a few thousand Forsaken Iksars to max Brood of Kotiz.

I think the Brood of Kotiz method is a better way to get access to merchants... I THINK the ones near the guild are still on this? Getting the Merchant faction is beyond ridiculous. The scaled curskins are not a great way, I have done it at least 75 times and have not moved out of scowling. Normally merchant quests given by merchant npcs move VERY quickly, such as the red wine quest in Neriak which raises merchants easy. I am questioning whether or not its possible for non iksar/non illusion to raise merchant faction. There is posts from me back in 2012/2013 when I questioned this as well lol.

[Aalderon Crystafire]

I maxed out at Ally with merchants - Cabilis Residents. You can't really compare to Neriak though because 1 red wine gives +10 Dark Bargainers, +1 Dreadguard Inner/Outer. x4 Bone Chips give +1 to all of the factions listed, no more. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=260

[Boilon]

There is no way Bone Chips give +1 to merchants otherwise I would be out of scowling as a Dark Elf Cleric, unless you start -200000 , I have done over 1500 turn ins on top of scorpion pincers and scaled curskins, I would have seen myself get out of Scowls in to Threateningly using the bankers as a gauge.

search cabilis residents on forums and you'll find various posts regarding this. I really would love to see a SS of ally Cabilis without any faction spell or illusion (assuming you are not iksar).

Also my reference to the red wine quest was because it is a quest INITIATED by a merchant npc. Scaled Curskin quest is also this way.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=75 - this says +5 Cabilis Residents, I have done this about 75 times on top of my 1500 turn ins for bonechips (6000 chips) which have taken my SK to dubious, and my merchant faction is STILL scowling. I have refused to do any more factioning to get this up until there is confirmation it is not bugged as I don't know a single non iksar in my guild or in posts ive made that have made it to Apprehensive and above with questing alone.

[Jimjam]

From when I levelled up my dark elf faction with my half elf warrior of innoruuk (apparently the purist dark elves don't like filthy mudbloods) I can tell you the faction guide on the wiki probably does not use the same figures as P1999.

[elwing]

I figured I'm already set to go through the town, but I mostly wanted to go for the shock value of a wood elf in Cabilis.
did that at ~30 ad a human on Vallon Zek... it was great

[Zziek]

Ok, this is all really helpful. I'll keep at it and as I make progress I'll post results in this topic for clarity's sake. I should probably invis into cabilis to check my other standings.

[Zziek]

There is a light at the end of the tunnel! 50 bags on bone chips and both the Warlord and Crusader Bodli are down to threatening. :)

[Zziek]

At around 56-58 8 slot bags worth of bone chips I've reached dubious with everybody but the Shamans and the Necromancers. I can walk around Cabilis mostly unbothered. This is definitely doable, it just seems neverending. :) (This was for a Wood Elf Bard under Bristlebane)

[Buellen]

sounds about right nearly 8k bone chips *) 4 chips per turn so nearly 2k turn ins at 1 faction pt each.

[Boilon]

This however does not fix the Merchant of Cabilis issue. But, from extensive talking, it would seem that you would likely need to do the max 16k bone chips / 4000 points worth of turn ins to see HOW that would affect your class/race/god combo. As I have been told that any Inny worshippers have the lowest negative faction hits for any cabilis faction. This means that the MAX possible faction one would hope to obtain for Merchant of Cabilis is the Apprehensive ish mark and that is after around 12k-16k bonechips.

[Zziek]

Well I certainly won't be testing with another character any time soon, but once I start raising my faction once more (shamans and necros keep to themselves so there's no point for me right now), I'll report my findings here. I'll see where I max out with my class/racial/deity modifiers, I imagine you're right and I won't be able to raise much higher than Apprehensive. I feel indifferent may actually be possible with the merchants for my class, but possibly not for others.

[kebas239]

As of 6 months ago, the bone chip quest was not bugged. I did it on one of my characters. Once I maxed Legion of Cabilis, the other factions continued to improve as I handed in more bone chips.

Your baseline faction is calculated based off your race, class and deity. The "good" deities start at a lower baseline. The shaman guild has extra hate for bards, enchanters, wizards and magicians, so these classes will take longer to be tolerated by them.

As an agnostic enchanter, I was able to hit ally with the warrior, SK, monk and merchant factions. I'm currently apprehensive with the shamans (while the other factions raised on the bone chip quest are ally) but I have not maxed any of the factions (other than Legion of Cabilis) yet.

The necros seem to start off at the same spot as the other factions (excluding the shamans). I'm dubious with them. It did not take too long, but I stopped killing the outcast iksar because I no longer felt like doing it.

The non-iksar illusions appear to have no effect on faction. In other words, assuming the same diety, they will start off hating you just as much whether you're a wood elf or dark elf. The shamans, in addition to being more difficult to raise for certain classes, see through iksar illusion. Tread carefully.

Hope this helps!