Lifetime Ports

[arsenalpow]

Hypothetically, what would be a fair price to pay to Dial A Port to cover ports from now until the end of the server?

[khanable]

I like the idea of season passes too

Spring is here, sell spring season passes yo

[fan D]

hows that gonna work

they suppose to drop everything their doing to prioritize BDA players when they need a port?

Even if they could split the plat evenly to all of the current members of Dial-A-Port, what about the new members?

[khanable]

they suppose to drop everything their doing to prioritize BDA players when they need a port?


yes

[fan D]

i think detoxx is already looking in to the idea of out bidding chest to keep the competitive advantage on raids

[Swish]

Hypothetically, what would be a fair price to pay to Dial A Port to cover ports from now until the end of the server?

What did BDA charge to rescue a guy stuck in Plane of Fear? Was it 10k?

I'd work on that basis, pay them 10k per day as a lump sum.

[Tuljin]

I'm sure they could assemble a team of the best neckbeard P99 lawyerquesters to write up a contract. Its good practice for them while they study for the LSAT

[arsenalpow]

I just assumed it would be a person by person pass.

[Ele]

Just get your wife/girlfriend to play a porter.

[Samoht]

Just get your wife/girlfriend to play a porter.

Lol. Everybody pull a Jeremy.

[jolanar]

Service is always worse for a product you've already paid for.

[Uuruk]

Just get your wife/girlfriend to play a porter.

Pretty much this.

[Spyder73]

A more reasonable agreement would be a one time fee for NON level 60 characters. This way it would be a convenience for alts and members who are leveling and the porters can still gouge the level 60's for 50pp a port of whatever retarded price Tupakk thinks is fair.

[iruinedyourday]

they suppose to drop everything their doing to prioritize BDA players?

Literatly chest is like, I don't understand what doesn't make sense about this? in irl when he read this.

[Spyder73]

Another cool option would be that a guild could help complete Druid and Wiz epics for DAP...I think some of the big bottle necks are MQ-able yes?

[-Catherin-]

Hypothetically, what would be a fair price to pay to Dial A Port to cover ports from now until the end of the server?

Keep killing Wuoshi for them in a timely fashion :p

I know we don't want to deal with it.

[ArumTP]

hows that gonna work

they suppose to drop everything their doing to prioritize BDA players when they need a port?

Even if they could split the plat evenly to all of the current members of Dial-A-Port, what about the new members?

Pretty much this. There can always be rogue members of dial-a-port that can basically say fuck you still, not gonna port. Also keeping in mind dial-a-port also contains alts from other guilds and valued information could be gathered if there is a sudden surge of BDA members needing to get to a given zone.

It would be best suited simply to get more druids and wizards in your guild.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

hows that gonna work

they suppose to drop everything their doing to prioritize BDA players when they need a port?

Even if they could split the plat evenly to all of the current members of Dial-A-Port, what about the new members?

I would suggest DaP implement a tiered system of service and pricing. This would be a yearly fee any player who plans to ever use their service pays. The fee is not a replacement for donations, but merely allows DaP to better identify and serve its diverse clientele.

Copper level (1k yearly fee) = they respond to your tells, and pick you up sometime within the next few hours. Ports only, no evacs or other services. CR's are not free.

Silver level (5k yearly fee) = same as copper level, but you can also hire them for evacs. CR's are still not free.

Gold level (10k yearly fee) = The true "gold standard" and the most favorite plan. All services unlocked. CR's are free.

Platinum level (40k yearly fee) = includes access to the famous DaP phone. 24/7 pick-up and delivery, private cell #'s of the DaP officers assure you only get the most experienced and speedy porters.

Velium level (250k, lifetime membership) = This is the plan Trump uses. Includes all platinum level services, plus you are assigned an in-game DaP butler, who follows you around, runs to merchants to sell off vendor trash, scouts out camps for you before you log on, and other exclusive perks. (Does not include on-demand cyber until Chardok revamp.)

[Relbaic]

It would be best suited simply to get more druids and wizards in your guild.

Druids are the last thing we need more of.

[Tupakk]

So many things to answer.

Our current Roster holds 600+ members. Active members ranging to about 10% of that not on at any given time.

As most of you know we do not have a set in stone rulebook. We do not believe in rules as that would force someone to manage and monitor the guild more than what we do already.

If you want to set up a personal transaction with any DaP member I am sure they would oblige some sort of pact. However as you know and it was state this is a guild of alts out to farm plat in the most casual way possible.

There are a select few that make up the core of Dial A Port that will most likely be lifers and those would be the ones you want to talk to.

As far as information and people knowing where other guilds are going. We deal with moving people and know the patterns, we have our own timers and spawn tables so we know where to be when to be. As well as pretty much everyone in the raid scene. If you dont then you are failing as a raiding guild and should fire whoever keeps the timers.

If you were to ask me I would say (1000 x 24 x 365 =8.76mil) for 1 year. that's me dropping what Im doing to come port for you. Friendly discount for you Chest would drop it to an even 5mil.

[Agecroft]

LOL

[Sorn]

If you were to ask me I would say (1000 x 24 x 365 =8.76mil) for 1 year. that's me dropping what Im doing to come port for you. Friendly discount for you Chest would drop it to an even 5mil.

...

*gates away*

[applesauce25r624]

they suppose to drop everything their doing to prioritize BDA players when they need a port?

what else are druids supposed to be doing besides hugging trees and stealing mobs from swarming bards?

[thewrush]

Pawning their gear for Necro items.

[Sorn]

what else are druids supposed to be doing besides hugging trees and stealing mobs from swarming bards?

Joining up with a cleric + shaman + enchanter in PoM, charming and hasting McStinkles, and wrecking the puppets for a chance at cards.

Or, you know...whatever it is druids do when not quadding or porting.

[alleycat]

A more reasonable agreement would be a one time fee for NON level 60 characters. This way it would be a convenience for alts and members who are leveling and the porters can still gouge the level 60's for 50pp a port of whatever retarded price Tupakk thinks is fair.

I may be taking this out of context but I have been in DaP for awhile now and as far as I know, nobody demands any certain amount like 50pp a port. Sure, we are a pay-for service and expect payment but it's still based off the old "donation" system of whatever you can afford or think is right for the services you received.

Myself, I spend a lot of time helping lowbies or first time characters with little plat for free, free CR's, running to bind them. I typically go out of my way to help people usually for nothing or very little. So when someone does donate 50+pp a port it's nice and it all tends to even out in the end. I don't see it as gouging.

I also enjoy porting. As we know Powerleveling is very high in demand these days and not many people doing it. It's also much more lucrative than what we make in DaP and we have talked about it many times in guild when we powerlevel, how much more we make.

So no, it's not price gouging, it's giving us an incentive to spend all of our playing time porting people around. If we made 20pp a port I guarantee you a /who all dial would be very few players if any.

[Pokesan]

You make 1000 plat/hour porting?

[Tupakk]

You make 1000 plat/hour porting?

I do, I cant say the same for some other druids.

[NarcolepticLTD]

You make 1000 plat/hour porting?

totally doable even without a DAP tag during prime on the weekends

[Lemonhead]

That would be a port every 2 minutes with the average donation. I'm sure 1k per hour has happened, but to average that is pretty unrealistic, even for DaP members, who obviously make the most.

[MiRo2]

When I get a port from DaP 2 out of 3 times there is more than one person in the group getting a port.

[Foxplay]

what else are druids supposed to be doing besides hugging trees and stealing mobs from swarming bards?

There is some powerful animals they can charm + they have great flexibility with dots quading, and straight nukes + heals, the class deserves more respect than that of a taxi cab

[Tupakk]

When I get a port from DaP 2 out of 3 times there is more than one person in the group getting a port.


You are correct, this is the most efficient way to move people. Just one of the few tricks you learn when porting.

[Speedi]

There is some powerful animals they can charm + they have great flexibility with dots quading, and straight nukes + heals, the class deserves more respect than that of a taxi cab

This guy gets it!

Druid are the best class in game. What we have here is a thread full of haters!

[Tupakk]

This guy gets it!

Druid are the best class in game. What we have here is a thread full of haters!

lol wheres the like button

[bktroost]

So if I wanted to hire dial a port for their real purpose, collecting motd, guild website, batphone, tracking info and voip info, how much would that cost?

A years service of espionage would cost...oh I'm just going to put this 10 million plat mule info in your inbox and this template for each guild's info. Let the game of thrones begin.

[Phantasm]

<Uber>

[Tupakk]

So if I wanted to hire dial a port for their real purpose, collecting motd, guild website, batphone, tracking info and voip info, how much would that cost?

A years service of espionage would cost...oh I'm just going to put this 10 million plat mule info in your inbox and this template for each guild's info. Let the game of thrones begin.

There is no price on knowledge in my book cause snitches get stiches. Will I tell someone one something here and there YUP but only cause I don't want to see someone waste their time or it benifits me in the long run with other favors.

If you want information that badly make an account get into said guild and get the batphone. Its not rocket science, its shitty, but if thats your game well, play it well.

[Speedi]

Keep killing Wuoshi for them in a timely fashion

I have said the same thing before.

Free ports for a day for the guild that kills him seems fair to me.

[Tupakk]

I have said the same thing before.

Free ports for a day for the guild that kills him seems fair to me.


Sure if you give us the loot that drops off her. And a screen to prove you downed her.

[Swish]

Have BDA promised druid epics to lure DaP members into switching yet? Might be missing a trick there, brother...

[Tupakk]

Have BDA promised druid epics to lure DaP members into switching yet? Might be missing a trick there, brother...

Every guild does that, that's why we do a big recruit twice a year and the regular recruiting monthly.

[Swish]

Every guild does that, that's why we do a big recruit twice a year and the regular recruiting monthly.

Not every guild, just the inflated ones trying to clean sweep what they need.

[Expediency]

totally doable even without a DAP tag during prime on the weekends

Many DAP are in that guild because they're unwilling or unable to do it on their own. So you're rolling the dice on some professional porters mixed with a lot of mediocre halfings looking to gear up their main by porting several people at a time while you wait.

Fly independent and for those of you out there who are thinking DAP cant be competed with, think again.

PS:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222555

[Tupakk]

Many DAP are in that guild because they're unwilling or unable to do it on their own. So you're rolling the dice on some professional porters mixed with a lot of mediocre halfings looking to gear up their main by porting several people at a time while you wait.

Fly independent and for those of you out there who are thinking DAP cant be competed with, think again.

PS:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222555

I ask this, why work tens times harder without the tag in hopes to get someone to do a /who Druid 44 54. If you are a serious porter then tag up, if your name is already out there the tag only makes you that much more plat.

As far as Mediocre porters we have a standard to keep to and everyone keeps that standard. If anyone isn't following our SoP then send me a message and it will be taken care of.
As of now my inbox has maybe 5 comments about our porters since I started. Everyone flames us but when it comes down to hard facts, We get the job done, We get people moved, and We are on time.

[LethClaypool]

You don't have to work hard to find business as a porter, whether in DAP or working independently. I can speak for both angles. Just got to build report.

Also, feel free to /friend Leth. Donations accepted, never required.

There goes the dynamite.

[Jaleth]

What did BDA charge to rescue a guy stuck in Plane of Fear? Was it 10k?

I'd work on that basis, pay them 10k per day as a lump sum.

That's works, I'll do that for you =)

But seriously, keeping someone in DaP helps others out when they need it (as well as the porter honestly for making plat when they are tired of the grind or when they hit end level), but it would be hard knowing that I have to log in everyday and be at someone's beck and call. Other individuals might be ok with it, but I am a very casual player, sometimes logging in once every other week, and not even on my wizard. The idea is interesting, but not sure if its against guild policy. Been a member for awhile but I need to brush up on that policy myself, since I play very rarely.

[Tuljin]

The issue with prepaying for a lifetime of ports is when you actually "get your moneys worth." For the sake of easy math if you paid 1k plat you'd be paying 50pp per port for the first 20 ports. 20 ports is actually a lot of ports, especially from the same person. The amount of 1k plat is a pathetic amount to give for a "lifetime" of anything. If you have 5k plat, which still isn't a ton you need 100 ports to be paying 50pp a port, which at the end of the day is on the higher end of a port tip. The whole point of getting a "lifetime" worth is to get a deal too, so what we're looking at here is somebody somewhere getting screwed.

Its similar to why I never bought translocate:group or individual translocate to bind when Velious launched when they were selling for 10k+ a piece. First of all I had nobody to port or translocate anyways. Second of all, it would have been completely ludicrous for me to buy a spell I dont even need for an exorbitant price to send people I dont give two shits about to their ToV bind. It would have taken me 100 translocates at 100 plat a piece to just break even. My first 10 translocates would have cost me 1000 a piece. Fuck that dude.

TL - DR - don't do a devil deal with BDA or any other guild on this server, fly your Dial a Port tag and make people pay for your services. If they dont like it tell them to get fucking bent, everyone is trying to screw each other around here constantly

[Lifebar]

It would be a bookkeeping nightmare for DaP but this would be amazing to have. I would buy a DaP renewable monthly subscription in a second.

How awful would it be to have to be the one processing all the port logs and doling out plat from the guildbank?

Hmm, actually there might be more plat in being one person charging a flat % to do the admin, processing, & reimbursements versus being one person porting.

[Tupakk]

It would be a bookkeeping nightmare for DaP but this would be amazing to have. I would buy a DaP renewable monthly subscription in a second.

How awful would it be to have to be the one processing all the port logs and doling out plat from the guildbank?

Hmm, actually there might be more plat in being one person charging a flat % to do the admin, processing, & reimbursements versus being one person porting.

To do this properly we would need a logger program that would grab all transfer information.

So that people who paid the monthly fee and got ported could get the porter their proper plat.

Then this would definitely turn into a job and not much a game. Trying to keep a full time staff and schedules would be a nightmare. I don't think that would make this fun anymore.

Although all you coders out there I'd be willing to strike a deal for a transfer parser for personal use and maybe a handful or DaP leadership for data mining reasons.

[Speedi]

I use Phury most of the time. Nice, courteous, and fast!

[Tupakk]

I use Phury most of the time. Nice, courteous, and fast!

He is rather speedy, isn't he....

[quido]

Lol. Everybody pull a Jeremy.

She did so much more than just that for me - wouldn't be in the top 1% without her <3 Glitterati

[jcr4990]

He is rather speedy, isn't he....
Rubbish and Phury are my heroes lately

+1 to you pals

[Cecily]

You are correct, this is the most efficient way to move people. Just one of the few tricks you learn when porting.

Absolutely... when you're porting your guild to or from a raid zone. As a druid who has learned a thing or two while porting people, making someone who paid you wait 3-5 mins on extra passengers running across the zone has always struck me as extremely unprofessional. When I give you 100p I'm kinda saying port me right the fuck now, and I try to give my customers the same service regardless of tip amount.

[Kevris]

If someone hands me a small amount of cash, I wait to port out of the zone. If someone hands me more than 50pp, I go immediately and let other people in the zone know I will be back.

If I'm taking multiple people from the same zone, I always set the first destination as the person who's paid the highest.

If it's a tie, I base it off of guild tags. Back in the days, someone from TMO was more likely to get a fast port than someone from IB, just based on the average tip. TMO always paid better.

-The World Famous McPorty Express <Dial-A-Port>

[Cecily]

Oh I like you. Will throw coins your way if I ever play.

[iruinedyourday]

ive always given 80-100 from the beginning of my time here on p99 well maybe when i was ultra poor I would go down to 60

bu I never thought about it, just seemed liek the right price

i was on blue last friday to hang out in someones stream and gave this kid 100p preport waiting for some other folks and he freaked out and was like YOU FIRST SIR! /salute THANKS!

i was like, why so happy?

I guess Im just a PLAYYYYAAAAAAh

shiiiit I knew this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD9A8x_xn5g

[Tupakk]

Lol was it one of my guys?