Playing without knowledge?

[Tazzak]

Hey, guys. I just finished playing through a vanilla WoW server, and decided to go back to EverQuest. I have a level ~24 Barbarian Shaman, but my main issue with playing is that I simply don't know what to do.



I'm logged at Unrest, I want to eventually do end-game, but I feel like as a new player, I won't have the knowledge that other people have.



I want to get good at this game, should I just focus on playing or?

[Vilkata]

don't know how to play our class or just don't know how to progress?

[Nuggie]

I'm very jealous of your ignorance of the game. Wish i could go through it for the first time again.

[Kioku]

Similar situation here, I've never played EQ and am still thinking about starting, but I worry that I might have no clue what to do. I've always been really terrible at trying to talk to other players or join/form groups too... well, unless maybe it's Eve Online, but even there it was hard to start up.

[HallyVee]

Yeah, honestly, enjoy this phase. I'm already missing my original newness and I'm only familiar with a few starter zones!

[goblinmoshpit]

I've been playing heavily for about 6 months now. One thing i learned is that i don't need every toon to "see it all" or "do it all" Each toon will give you different goals, styles, and zones to explore! Enjoy each toon uniquely =]

If you want, just peek on wiki when ya really feel ya need to. Ask other players about things you are curious about. The community in general has been very helpful and patient with me =] Thanks 99!

On the P99 wiki there are a plethora of guides and i just like to read thru and pick out what seems interesting to me. I'm currently on a Druid level 21 and taking a nice tour set up by Mefdinkins =] Also like people said, enjoy this stage! I love how every zone is still a mystery to me. Also grouping is very fun and a good way to get tips on how to efficiently play whatever class!

That being said i might as well advertise that my new guild <World Chat> is accepting any and all who want to join!! The goal is to set up a fun social chat channel for just BSing, grouping, or just getting advice. Unlimited messaging and no monthly fees lol
=P

/tell Dippo if ya wanna join. The More The Merrier =]

GL, Tazzak and have fun!

[iruinedyourday]

Hey, guys. I just finished playing through a vanilla WoW server, and decided to go back to EverQuest. I have a level ~24 Barbarian Shaman, but my main issue with playing is that I simply don't know what to do.



I'm logged at Unrest, I want to eventually do end-game, but I feel like as a new player, I won't have the knowledge that other people have.



I want to get good at this game, should I just focus on playing or?

Go to mistmoore, group! group group group! go to SOlB next, group! try some duos!Go to CoM finnish epic faction and quest, try some solo's! Go to KC next, group, duo & solos! Go to Sebilis, Group & Duo!

:)

[ko37qtl]

For me, there's no better way to get a feel for a game than playing different characters. If you want to start small, take your one healer, try an Int caster, a tank, and a melee of some kind. Personally, I don't think it's complete until you try one of everything and get them into the 20s at least (where class abilities and differences really start to become apparent) but a little cross training will likely teach you a lot. Level in different spots and see what kinds of things you really enjoy. Failing that, it's research online and talking to people. Don't level too long in one place or with the same kinds of situations. Mixing it up is more fun and better to understand the ins and outs of the game.

[Lunababy]

This game is so inaccessible that you really cannot progress without spending hours reading online about zones and the class you're playing. You definitely won't be able to solo anything without game knowledge and you'll just be a burden to every group you join.

[LethClaypool]

Welcome to p99/Everquest!

I wouldn't say the game is inaccessible - so much as it doesn't hold your hand or guide you. I do recommend some reading though. Really, it comes down to what your definition of fun long term is - are you about discovery or do you like to have a game plan?

Most of the game is, at this point, pretty thoroughly documented between the forums, wiki, and other sites, and the community can be pretty good with new players so you could always do some reading on wherever you'd like to hunt, your class, and whatever suits your fancy. Alternatively, discovery is part of the magic. At least, I think a lot of people here would agree. It's also part of the headache. I think a lot of people would agree on that too.

Really, that's where your choice starts beyond just playing.

[Jimjam]

When you join a group simply ask the group leader what role they would like you to play. If you are still uncertain simply ask the group for tips and they will help you refine your style.

As a shaman there are lots of ways to play, so make sure you stay adaptable.

[Slave35]

For me, there's no better way to get a feel for a game than playing different characters. If you want to start small, take your one healer, try an Int caster, a tank, and a melee of some kind. Personally, I don't think it's complete until you try one of everything and get them into the 20s at least (where class abilities and differences really start to become apparent) but a little cross training will likely teach you a lot. Level in different spots and see what kinds of things you really enjoy. Failing that, it's research online and talking to people. Don't level too long in one place or with the same kinds of situations. Mixing it up is more fun and better to understand the ins and outs of the game.

Just as a warning: this is a really good way to blow a couple years and still be level 40 with no idea of what's going on.

[alphys]

I just jumped in with no knowledge, then when any questions arose, there is such a culmination of knowledge on the wiki and forums for pretty much any question

[thufir]

This game is so inaccessible that you really cannot progress without spending hours reading online about zones and the class you're playing. You definitely won't be able to solo anything without game knowledge and you'll just be a burden to every group you join.

this dude is smoking some great stuff and I wish they would send me some

you're best off playing the game from the ground up with a lvl 1 character and just experimenting with everything you're able to purchase spell wise.

it's not a particularly difficult game as nearly anyone else will tell you. there's a bunch of things to learn along the way but you'll get by just fine with the obvious stuff. in the meantime explore and experiment! and don't be afraid to ask for tips from other people who are playing your class.

[RTukka]

What Lunababy said isn't completely baseless, but is fairly exaggerated.

There are a lot of things that aren't very well documented or signposted in the game itself, and the mistakes that a player can make can be costly.

The complete and utter lack of in-game spell descriptions means it is highly advisable to read a class guide at the very least, especially given that some spells aren't totally intuitive in the way they work. You can muddle by with just experimentation, but at some point it makes sense to get a clearer picture of the mechanics.

Quests are another are another thing that almost require wiki guidance. Though it is possible to complete many quests without a guide, it unfortunately is not very satisfying materially, since most quests have poor rewards relative to time/cost/effort/risk involved even if you complete them in the most efficient possible way (which you probably aren't if you aren't following a guide). Basically, quests are a bit of a trap for newbies. Without a guide you need to come at them with a strictly "it's the journey, not the destination" mentality.

As far as far as finding level-appropriate things to kill, that shouldn't ever be a real problem. Some zones/camps are better than others, but you can make reasonable progress without ever touching the most popular camps (though you will probably find the popular camps pretty quickly just by virtue of the fact that they are popular).

When it comes to grouping, the game is pretty straight forward. If you know the basics of how your own class works, pay attention and think, any essential gaps in your knowledge should be filled in pretty quickly. That's not to say you'll never make mistakes that will cost you or your party, but on the whole you should still be more of an asset than a liability.

[ko37qtl]

Just as a warning: this is a really good way to blow a couple years and still be level 40 with no idea of what's going on.

Hah! I guess it is at that. It's reflective of the kind of game I want to play. I like groups (particularly dungeon groups) and have far less interest in raiding.

[thufir]

Hah! I guess it is at that. It's reflective of the kind of game I want to play. I like groups (particularly dungeon groups) and have far less interest in raiding.
My kind of guy. Raiding is the most boring part of eq by far. It's all about the journey.

[Centurionx]

My kind of guy. Raiding is the most boring part of eq by far. It's all about the journey.

I hated raiding on WoW

EQ was my first mmo, and when I started to play on live again a few years ago, I
noticed the journey was pretty much gone. Even WoW had somewhat of a journey at first, nothing like early EQ, but a lil sumthin anyway. I don't like how modern games
cater to the noob, it's all about $. Anyway, P99 has provided a refuge for og mmo gamers and I am truly grateful ;)

[gprater]

I agree, raiding is not a bit fun Ive found. Scheduling your life to be online for a game only to spend usually hours with 20-30 others where some will get xp and gear and other gets nothing. Being told exactly what to do and when to do it as if there is no other way to do it. grouping 1-60 at every opportunity is where it's at. I love PUGs. Yes, you can get a stinker once in a while but its so much fun trying to take a imperfect combination of classes and making a go of it.

to the OP: read read read. For me its always been the funnest part of the game. So many great resources out there to dive into. Even these heavily opinionated forums ( me included) are a good source. Games like WoW and other "modern day" lol MMO's dont require that learning and research. One of the many reasons they are just easy mode.

Have fun learning and dont be afraid to be wrong.

[Kalex716]

Don't worry too much about it. While it is very true that EQ is challenging, and lessons are going to be hard learned... Guides, and the P99 wiki has enough general knowledge that is easily accessible that you'll be able to fake your way threw most of it.

As for when you get punished, sigh, breath, and forge forward. Part of the experience is the shared misery, and no matter what kind of dumb blunders or terrible situations you find yourself in, trust that we've all been there before.

[Rygar]

Go to KC next, group, duo & solos!

KC?! Nooooo! Don't funnel anymore people there, terrible zone. Break free of this curse p99!!