F**k washington

[iruinedyourday]

If you want to give your middle finger to people manipulating your media famiy friends and taking your tax dolors then I urge you to call your friends in Michigan today and get them out to vote for Bernie Sanders: http://voteforbernie.org/state/michigan/

Perhaps you have no friends in Michigan? Then maybe spend an hour talking to strangers and getting them out to vote, hopefully with their friends! It seems crazy but if we want the people to win this election, the system is rigged so they have to fight for it. Help me fight for it on the phones & getting people out to vote! https://go.berniesanders.com/page/content/miphonebank/

Trump ain't going to beat hillary folks, I'm sorry, I wish he would but he ain't... So unless you want to bend the knee to that snake whore then you gotta fight the fight. :(

[Stalos_]

If only the popular vote, went to bernie, then he would get the presidency.

Oh wait. 2000.

Occupy yourself with something else, not worth the stress.

[Daywolf]

Bernie for low taxes!!

hehehe

He won't beat her, he'll flog her and throw her into a cell. With him and Cruz on the ticket, anyway.

[iruinedyourday]

VOTE BERNIE TO END THE DIVISION BETWEEN THE LIGHT AND DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE!

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/sanders-what-youre-really-talking-about-ending-gun-manufacturing-america-I

Dont let hillary take your guns, dont let hillary turn us against each other, UNITE TOGETHER!!


http://i.imgur.com/RI2IFTh.jpg

[Hastley]

If you want to give your middle finger to people manipulating your media famiy friends and taking your tax dolors then I urge you to call your friends in Michigan today and get them out to vote for Bernie Sanders: http://voteforbernie.org/state/michigan/

Perhaps you have no friends in Michigan? Then maybe spend an hour talking to strangers and getting them out to vote, hopefully with their friends! It seems crazy but if we want the people to win this election, the system is rigged so they have to fight for it. Help me fight for it on the phones & getting people out to vote! https://go.berniesanders.com/page/content/miphonebank/

Trump ain't going to beat hillary folks, I'm sorry, I wish he would but he ain't... So unless you want to bend the knee to that snake whore then you gotta fight the fight. :(

You have spouted off for months and months that bernie will win. Guess what, he isn't and he won't. Can't trust your judgement on whether or not trump will beat Hillary. The sad thing is the "anti-media" has brained washed you just as thoroughly as the main stream media has manipulated the masses. A true " 6 of one or a half dozen of the other" scenario.

Not feeling the bern and you've been duped .

[Pokesan]

hillary is being indicted next month. bernie dunks whatever garbage candidate the republicans fart out of their retarded convention for assholes.

well cya

[maerilith]

If you want to give your middle finger to people manipulating your media famiy friends and taking your tax dolors then I urge you to call your friends in Michigan today and get them out to vote for Bernie Sanders: http://voteforbernie.org/state/michigan/

Perhaps you have no friends in Michigan? Then maybe spend an hour talking to strangers and getting them out to vote, hopefully with their friends! It seems crazy but if we want the people to win this election, the system is rigged so they have to fight for it. Help me fight for it on the phones & getting people out to vote! https://go.berniesanders.com/page/content/miphonebank/

Trump ain't going to beat hillary folks, I'm sorry, I wish he would but he ain't... So unless you want to bend the knee to that snake whore then you gotta fight the fight. :(

100%, buti'll vote for hillary if trump gets thenomnom

cause pplz dumb firesnakes

[iruinedyourday]

hillary is being indicted next month. bernie dunks whatever garbage candidate the republicans fart out of their retarded convention for assholes.

well cya

what does this next month thing mean? plz tell me i want her to go to jail or something.

hail bernie sanders

[Daywolf]

what does this next month thing mean? plz tell me i want her to go to jail or something.

hail bernie sanders
You're really out of touch, aren't you? Stuck in that social media and Bernie bubble :o

http://i.imgur.com/h1V4nkY.jpg

[iruinedyourday]

tha fuk u callin me out of touch nickle you play a fuckn game from 1999 wake up

prolly never been to the coast of spain either

outatuch nurga calln me outa tuch cus i dont know the latest bullshit fantasy that hillary isnt too big to jail.

WAKEUP

[maerilith]

They already extradited the hacker who got hillarys mail. hackee going down for it.

[Daywolf]

tha fuk u callin me out of touch nickle you play a fuckn game from 1999 wake up

prolly never been to the coast of spain either

outatuch nurga calln me outa tuch cus i dont know the latest bullshit fantasy that hillary isnt too big to jail.

WAKEUP
You're asleep. But you're a liberal so that's a given.

[iruinedyourday]

ok fine vote for whoever the media tells you to and say that im sleepin

[maerilith]

Bigj told me to vote trump 2016 with his dieng breath as the black supremasists killed him.

so here it is... TRUMP2016

thanks for wispering sweet nothings in my ear BigJ. RIP

[dafier]

Is this an R&F thread or....nvm, it's R&F.

Anyway, Hilary has committed several crimes, one which is similar to Petraeus and should at the minimum get what he got.

Bernie is living in lala land. I think this guy sees rainbows and unicorns all day. THAT is scary.

Don't get me wrong, I am not for any of them, I'm just giving an opinion.

EDIT:

GL to all you crazy people voting for these folks. MERKA!

[Daywolf]

ok fine vote for whoever the media tells you to and say that im sleepinIs that social media? I'm not fond of social or mass media. I monitor mass media, but doesn't take much time as it's the same liberal nonsense soundbites just in a different wrapper. Social media just invents stuff, it's funny, then deletes any alternate voices. They are more or less the same in the end, not reflective of any real truth whatsoever.

They already extradited the hacker who got hillarys mail. hackee going down for it.Yeah will be interesting to see what comes of that. Quite literally a smoking gun in the mix since he released emails that didn't get released by Clinton when she was claiming she did. Also he had images of her box with emails unreported and concerning the Libya (benghazi) incident. It's a limited extradition though, but wouldn't be surprised if that got extended for a time if necessary.

[maerilith]

Is that social media? I'm not fond of social or mass media. I monitor mass media, but doesn't take much time as it's the same liberal nonsense soundbites just in a different wrapper. Social media just invents stuff, it's funny, then deletes any alternate voices. They are more or less the same in the end, not reflective of any real truth whatsoever.

Yeah will be interesting to see what comes of that. Quite literally a smoking gun in the mix since he released emails that didn't get released by Clinton when she was claiming she did. Also he had images of her box with emails unreported and concerning the Libya (benghazi) incident. It's a limited extradition though, but wouldn't be surprised if that got extended for a time if necessary.

He ded.

[dafier]

I am surprised Bryan Pagliano is still alive. You don't mess with the ....those....people.

<_<

>_>

[Pokesan]

Is this an R&F thread or....nvm, it's R&F.

Anyway, Hilary has committed several crimes, one which is similar to Petraeus and should at the minimum get what he got.

Bernie is living in lala land. I think this guy sees rainbows and unicorns all day. THAT is scary.

Don't get me wrong, I am not for any of them, I'm just giving an opinion.

EDIT:

GL to all you crazy people voting for these folks. MERKA!

pick a side or shut the fuck up. acting as though you're so wise as to be above it all is grounds for an asskicking.

[dafier]

you're so wise as to be above it all

[maerilith]

I am surprised Bryan Pagliano is still alive. You don't mess with the ....those....people.

<_<

>_>

is that the hacker?

the real fun ppl keep you alive long enough to make a spectacle and example out of you just to keep thier friends entertained and in line...

i feel like thats the fate we can expect for anyone who effectively resists the power elite or who tries to publicly usurp them

[dafier]

is that the hacker?

the real fun ppl keep you alive long enough to make a spectacle and example out of you just to keep thier friends entertained and in line...

i feel like thats the fate we can expect for anyone who effectively resists the power elite or who tries to publicly usurp them

No. It's the guy who worked on Hilary's email servers, but plead the 5th when the first round of questions hit.

Now he has FBI immunity and the senators are asking for him to answer questions now that he has immunity.

[Daywolf]

He ded.
Nah we're just doing a trial, we cant punish him. I think this is about information extraction. He'll prolly go full board songbird on this, and drop evidence in court damning to Clinton most likely.

FBI is doing this, they have the servers, and at this point there is absolutely no real official word regarding what the investigation is about.
However, we get the hacker coming inbound, and Clinton's IT guy suddenly getting immunity (another potential songbird). This is an ongoing investigation, hasn't been closed as of yet, obviously.

[Pokesan]

immunity means anything he reveals now, he won't be prosecuted for - anything he holds back - well that's a damn fine motivation to spill his guts to the maximum of his ability. the it guy i mean.

should be fun

[Daywolf]

immunity means anything he reveals now, he won't be prosecuted for - anything he holds back - well that's a damn fine motivation to spill his guts to the maximum of his ability. the it guy i mean.

should be fun
He likely has more to fear vs. The Clinton Machine™
There is only but death in those huge gears.
But... immunity keeps him out of prison as the easy target, so we'll see.

[AzzarTheGod]

No. It's the guy who worked on Hilary's email servers, but plead the 5th when the first round of questions hit.

Now he has FBI immunity and the senators are asking for him to answer questions now that he has immunity.

Senators can ask all the questions they want.

They have no power to do anything but create a spectacle. Sure, them asking questions builds pressure on law enforcement agencies.

But mostly its just for dog and pony showing purposes.

[Spyder73]

IRYD is losing his sh!t, macequest INC when TRUMP strides to victory in November.

Pokesan attaching his ship to IRYD and going down in flames with him.

TRUMP not only Americas savior, but savior of FQ also. YT'ing IRYD without even trying

[iruinedyourday]

IRYD is losing his sh!t, macequest INC when TRUMP strides to victory in November.

Pokesan attaching his ship to IRYD and going down in flames with him.

TRUMP not only Americas savior, but savior of FQ also. YT'ing IRYD without even trying

u even read bro? my mace quest IS voting for Trump, so everyone of those 25% coward ass conservative democrat fucks get whats coming to em, a nuke to the face.

jesus spend more time reading less time writing songs about your fuckn surname

[Spyder73]

u even read bro? my mace quest IS voting for Trump, so everyone of those 25% coward ass conservative democrat fucks get whats coming to em, a nuke to the face.

jesus spend more time reading less time writing songs about your fuckn surname

Your new nick name should be "Machine Gun", because your are getting rapid fire triggered *bada bing!*

[Morlaeth]

Thought you were talking about Washington State and I was sad panda :(

[Pokesan]

u even read bro? my mace quest IS voting for Trump, so everyone of those 25% coward ass conservative democrat fucks get whats coming to em, a nuke to the face.

jesus spend more time reading less time writing songs about your fuckn surname

http://i.imgur.com/qWnlWHt.jpg

spyder how did u get so bad at posting?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

http://i.imgur.com/oabw3eQ.jpg

[AzzarTheGod]

^ fuck yes

[Pokesan]

http://i.imgur.com/oabw3eQ.jpg

yes, taxes are exactly the same as theft, good point my man!

[barrettdc1]

yes, taxes are exactly the same as theft, good point my man!

Finally, something you said that isn't nonsensical/trolling.

[AzzarTheGod]

yes, taxes are exactly the same as theft, good point my man!

U gonna trigger Lune and Lurikeen making statements like that.

Where is your warning?

[Pokesan]

Finally, something you said that isn't nonsensical/trolling.

you need a beating.

[barrettdc1]

you need a beating.

:D

[maerilith]

http://i.imgur.com/qWnlWHt.jpg

spyder how did u get so bad at posting?

my mom laughed at this over my shoulder while i was reading

TRUMP2016

[iruinedyourday]

I did 4 hours on the phone today... I convinced 1 undecided voter lol

I got 2 conservatives that said:

1. Id rather blow my brains out than vote for that communist.
2. I wouldnt vote for him if my life depended on it.

Which one of you are you lark & Daywolf?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

yes, taxes are exactly the same as theft, good point my man!

A Robin Hood tax system designed with the express purpose of redistributing wealth from people who've earned it to give to those who haven't is theft yes.

[iruinedyourday]

A Robin Hood tax system designed with the express purpose of redistributing wealth from people who've earned it to give to those who haven't is theft yes.

to the mind of the individual that does not realise that history has proven that the poor will just literally steal everything from you if the government doesn't do anything to support them.

god forbid the bakery owner pays 1 out of 10 dollars in taxes so that he can increase his customer base by 800% instead of paying 0 out of 10 dollars and having all 10 dollars taken from him by an enraged poor mob.

[Pokesan]

A Robin Hood tax system designed with the express purpose of redistributing wealth from people who've earned it to give to those who haven't is theft yes.

noone in this election is talking about redistributing wealth, you boner.

wealth is seldom earned these days.

[Lune]

A Robin Hood tax system designed with the express purpose of redistributing wealth from people who've earned it to give to those who haven't is theft yes.

You really believe in framing it like that? That's unlike you to just say something that is verbatim Fox News without being a hipster about it.

In free market capitalist systems, and even in mixed markets, wealth will always concentrate in the hands of the few over time. It's a fundamental law of economics that having wealth is conducive to not only producing more wealth, but acquiring a larger share of aggregate wealth. The only way to reverse this is through government or syndicate intervention in the form of taxation, labor unions, labor laws, subsidies, etc.

Nobody is suggesting talented and driven individuals shouldn't be disproportionately and generously awarded for the value they add to society. But when the country is being systematically looted and driven to serfdom because the elite have become too adept at rigging the system, intervention is required. Making it so an entrepreneur only takes home $10 million a month instead of $12 million isn't going to deter him from doing what he's doing.

[Daywolf]

I did 4 hours on the phone today... I convinced 1 undecided voter lol

I got 2 conservatives that said:

1. Id rather blow my brains out than vote for that communist.
2. I wouldnt vote for him if my life depended on it.

Which one of you are you lark & Daywolf?
hmmm wouldn't be me. My obvious response would be: "I'll be LMAO as you take a dive off TRUMP towers after election night".

&? and I thought I had conspiracy issues heh.
Sometimes I wonder if IRYD & KagatobLuvsAnimu the same person hehehe :D
...not random. But there you have it ;)

[maskedmelon]

noone in this election is talking about redistributing wealth, you boner.
.

Ohhhhh so free college really is free then. Iwas confused ^^

[Pokesan]

Ohhhhh so free college really is free then. Iwas confused ^^

income isn't wealth, you boner.

[Lune]

The fact that wealth has become so concentrated in the hands of an elite is secondary, anyway. The real problem is the fact that they can use that money to buy political power, buy the media, and basically rewrite our country's rules.

If you don't own a home, try finding affordable rent when there are no municipalities in much of the country that zone for middle-low income developments. After all, when you're in the business of buying up real estate and renting it out (as everyone with lots of money is doing right now), bringing down rent prices for affordable housing development is bad for business. That's just one way you're being fucked right now.

There's also the fact that antitrust activity has all but stopped, and corporations in nearly every industry, from airlines, to banks, to food, to the media, are merging into just a handful of conglomerates, eliminating competition.

But coming down on them for their behavior is just persecution right? The have-nots trying to pull one over on the haves? Fucking retard fiscal conservatives go to Mississippi get AIDS and die.

[iruinedyourday]

hmmm wouldn't be me. My obvious response would be: "I'll be LMAO as you take a dive off TRUMP towers after election night".

&? and I thought I had conspiracy issues heh.
Sometimes I wonder if IRYD & KagatobLuvsAnimu the same person hehehe :D
...not random. But there you have it ;)

these deep red conservatives such fucking low wat bulbs that this one thinks me asking lark & day a question simultaneously mans I think they are the same person...

[iruinedyourday]

Ohhhhh so free college really is free then. Iwas confused ^^

id rather pay taxes for free college than free war.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

You really believe in framing it like that? That's unlike you to just say something that is verbatim Fox News without being a hipster about it.

In free market capitalist systems, and even in mixed markets, wealth will always concentrate in the hands of the few over time. It's a fundamental law of economics that having wealth is conducive to not only producing more wealth, but acquiring a larger share of aggregate wealth. The only way to reverse this is through government or syndicate intervention in the form of taxation, labor unions, labor laws, subsidies, etc.

Nobody is suggesting talented and driven individuals shouldn't be disproportionately and generously awarded for the value they add to society. But when the country is being systematically looted and driven to serfdom because the elite have become too adept at rigging the system, intervention is required. Making it so an entrepreneur only takes home $10 million a month instead of $12 million isn't going to deter him from doing what he's doing.

I'm not talking about someone taking home $10mil a month, I'm talking about the households (not individuals) that enter the $150k a year bracket getting raped under the proposed system.

[Daywolf]

id rather pay taxes from my great great grandchildren for free college than free war.
ftfy

[maskedmelon]

income isn't wealth, you boner.

Of curse, they are mutually exclusive. Wealth seldom generates income and income never leads to wealth. We all know this. Fortunately there is not much to belost for most.; for the average American wealth is just an opportunity cost of taxes.

[Pokesan]

how often would you say income leads to wealth?

they're basically separate.

[maskedmelon]

How often would you say wealth is amassed in the absence of income?

[Pokesan]

I asked first, bitch.

[maskedmelon]

And I answered your question with a question, the answer to which we both know.

Admit defeat!








boner :D

[Pokesan]

no, a question isn't an answer. this isn't the land of rand mcnally where hamburgers eat people.

you boner.

[Daywolf]

It's not that he's dumb, it's just liberal brainwashing causes brain damage :o

[Efwan]

Trump will surprise you.

[MrSparkle001]

free college = degrees that are worth what a current high school diploma is, and they're already losing worth now.

And people will have to go to school into their 20s for that degree that isn't worth anything.

Not that college isn't stupidly expensive now. It's fucking ridiculously expensive and it shouldn't be allowed. But making public colleges completely free will make their degrees worthless so you have to wonder if we'd really gain anything.

[iruinedyourday]

free college = degrees that are worth what a current high school diploma is, and they're already losing worth now.

And people will have to go to school into their 20s for that degree that isn't worth anything.

Not that college isn't stupidly expensive now. It's fucking ridiculously expensive and it shouldn't be allowed. But making public colleges completely free will make their degrees worthless so you have to wonder if we'd really gain anything.

A diploma already doesn't mean anything, its what you do with the education that matters.

Aint nobody fuckn hiring dumb people, because they have a diploma.. they hire smart people, with diplomas... it wont change the worth of a piece of paper that already has no worth in modern society.

[Daywolf]

Not everyone requires an education after high school. Being forced to bet on yourself to get one is a decent system working as intended, and actually quite manageable even as bad as things are now.
Just on this point, anyone coming out of the public school system today ...SHOuld get at least some education hehe you just cant remain a vegetable all your life as modern public school has left you :rolleyes:

Accredited or not. Even a trade school, whatever. Pick up a cert or something. Do the online crap, stuff that interests you. Community colleges have all sorts of programs, do in your part time while you hold a real full-time job. There are industry schools too, though... less industry these days :(

In some cases, you can even pick up a stupid exam text book and study on your own time, then go take the exam for a recognized cert (very common with technical training).

But point is there are all types of educational programs, and you won't be paying student loans on for the next 20yrs... if you even find a job after getting that debt piled up.

Schools are so messed up now, we're going to run out of doctors. Aint hardly worth it any longer. With all the debt and insurance and malpractice lawsuits under every robe, as a plumber you may wind up with a better retirement stash :D

[AzzarTheGod]

^ monster post. George C. mashing on em.

George C y did u abort.

[AzzarTheGod]

I do laugh when I see these top 300 schools with endowments of 150 million (pretty respectable for your average heap of shit "Good" private university) with an average undergrad GPA of 4.0.

I consider myself a smart guy. I suffer from a neurodevelopmental disorder-- ADD. It took me awhile to handle a full course load. Some semesters no problem, others were complete wastes of my life and money due to the disorder.

Since I have existed at both ends of the spectrum, depending on my mood and dopamine transport saturation, as both a really bad student and a REALLY good straight A student. I can say with confidence that any school outside of the top 200 claiming to maintain a 4.0 average GPA is a farce and is either A) a fraud handing grades out to business school kids B) not worth the tuition.

Can anyone tell me why schools outside of the top 40 advertise their Average GPA's of 4.0 when all it does is cheapen their image? Do they think the average sucker isn't smart enough to know that its NOT POSSIBLE, NOT FEASIBLE to have a school full of 3,000 undergraduates and maintain a 4.0 GPA average without fraud, or a serious staffing issue.

Fuck free college I only see it making the above scenario's listed by George and others even worse.

[Daywolf]

^ monster post. George C. mashing on em.

George C y did u abort.
erm yeah, why did he delete? Thought it was a decent post.
Well I did all that shit I mentioned. College (computer science), trade school (carpenter), industry school (CNC machinist/technician). Various technical certs in computers. Some other classes/schools too. Damn straight. I even read ...books! :eek: like non-fiction stuff by golly :D I actually like technical books :P

[AzzarTheGod]

Experienced post. I did all that shit. College (computer science), trade school (carpenter), industry school (CNC machinist/technician). Various technical certs in computers. Some other classes/schools too. Damn straight. I even read ...books! :eek: like non-fiction stuff by golly :D

Looking at enrolling in IT education soon myself and learning a programming language unless I want to transition into sales. I think there is a reason a lot of people avoid working in sales. Just seems very stressful if you aren't a pathological machine about it. Seems you are either a good salesperson or you are really bad. Risky allocation of time and who aspires to get a career in sales anyway?

Worst case I guess there is always the tar sands. I haven't looked into the safety risks yet and what a new guy arriving at the Sands can expect...I am guessing there is a reason the pay starts at six figures, and probably not entirely due to having to relocate to a shithole and ditch your family and friends.

I think I'm getting too old for the Sands though.

I could go back to school, but IDK how that works with my employment. First world problems of making your own way in the world I guess. Would have been nice to grow up in the 16th Century in a family of master blacksmiths and have it automatically decided for you.

Several years to go before I'm caught up to you though Daywolf as far as # of career changes go. You are a fair bit older than me.

[George_Costanza]

^ monster post. George C. mashing on em.

George C y did u abort.

actually was doing sum testing. did you know if you keep the delete window open you can delete after the 30 min edit window? gonna see if i can delete this tomorrow.

anyway i lost the post accidentally overwrote my clipboard eheh

[Tann]

can i get a TLDR of these last 7 pages, whats wrong with WA state?

[Daywolf]

Looking at enrolling in IT education soon myself and learning a programming language unless I want to transition into sales. I think there is a reason a lot of people avoid working in sales. Just seems very stressful if you aren't a pathological machine about it. Seems you are either a good salesperson or you are really bad. Risky allocation of time and who aspires to get a career in sales anyway?

Worst case I guess there is always the tar sands. I haven't looked into the safety risks yet and what a new guy arriving at the Sands can expect...I am guessing there is a reason the pay starts at six figures, and probably not entirely due to having to relocate to a shithole and ditch your family and friends.

I think I'm getting too old for the Sands though.

I could go back to school, but IDK how that works with my employment. First world problems of making your own way in the world I guess. Would have been nice to grow up in the 16th Century in a family of master blacksmiths and have it automatically decided for you.

Several years to go before I'm caught up to you though Daywolf as far as # of career changes go. You are a fair bit older than me.Most of that I did between 17 and 35yo. College I did part time while working full time. I haven't done much in the past 10 years officially, apart from some self education stuff (e.g techy manuals mostly, such as CEH hehe). I had a back injury holding me down for a while, but healed up. I'm going to work on something pretty soon but not sure what yet, either, but not a CEH cert ;)

IT is cool, that was my minor in college, why I studied CEH, since I do server stuff still, for better security skill. I've met a lot of guys in IT jobs that didn't do college, just went for piles of certs and started doing it.

[AzzarTheGod]

IT is cool, that was my minor in college, why I studied CEH, since I do server stuff still, for better security skill. I've met a lot of guys in IT jobs that didn't do college, just went for piles of certs and started doing it.

Seems to be how its done these days. Combined with a willingness to relocate where the money is being offered. Out towards Michigan they have a lot of under qualified guys coming in making 61-71k just because its some kind of State subsidy.

I grew up with a real powerhouse high school class. It was a private school with good standing, and it seemed like everybody was going to a big entitlement school where just earning the BA opens doors (like it used to, like its supposed to...) Me and a few of my crew ended up at normal state schools, which was good I guess to get some REAL life experience I can offer my son someday. Been an interesting time.

Having acquaintances and peers going to big colleges definitely fucks with you. It probably took me longer to get the focus needed to graduate from my state school because I'd always held it in low regard because I didn't have the grades to compete.

I think being exposed to people who were having big opportunities handed to them took some of the wind out of my sails. It took me a long time to start to form my own sense of self, and my own identity. Still working on it. My perception is definitely vandalized. I'm not jealous of anyone, and I have met people jealous of me (misinformed people or really struggling).

Elite private schools can be really toxic if you can't compete. I met a friend in state college who came from the same background I did. I thought he was bullshitting when he told me his entire class went Ivy league. I looked it up, and he wasn't kidding. I try to remind myself if this guy can mentally get over that, I can suck it up myself and stop looking down on everything.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

http://i.imgur.com/oabw3eQ.jpg

yes, taxes are exactly the same as theft, good point my man!

A Robin Hood tax system designed with the express purpose of redistributing wealth from people who've earned it to give to those who haven't is theft yes.

to the mind of the individual that does not realise that history has proven that the poor will just literally steal everything from you if the government doesn't do anything to support them.

god forbid the bakery owner pays 1 out of 10 dollars in taxes so that he can increase his customer base by 800% instead of paying 0 out of 10 dollars and having all 10 dollars taken from him by an enraged poor mob.

You really believe in framing it like that? That's unlike you to just say something that is verbatim Fox News without being a hipster about it.

In free market capitalist systems, and even in mixed markets, wealth will always concentrate in the hands of the few over time. It's a fundamental law of economics that having wealth is conducive to not only producing more wealth, but acquiring a larger share of aggregate wealth. The only way to reverse this is through government or syndicate intervention in the form of taxation, labor unions, labor laws, subsidies, etc.

Nobody is suggesting talented and driven individuals shouldn't be disproportionately and generously awarded for the value they add to society. But when the country is being systematically looted and driven to serfdom because the elite have become too adept at rigging the system, intervention is required. Making it so an entrepreneur only takes home $10 million a month instead of $12 million isn't going to deter him from doing what he's doing.

I'm not talking about someone taking home $10mil a month, I'm talking about the households (not individuals) that enter the $150k a year bracket getting raped under the proposed system.

[Daywolf]

Seems to be how its done these days. Combined with a willingness to relocate where the money is being offered. Out towards Michigan they have a lot of under qualified guys coming in making 61-71k just because its some kind of State subsidy.

I grew up with a real powerhouse high school class. It was a private school with good standing, and it seemed like everybody was going to a big entitlement school where just earning the BA opens doors (like it used to, like its supposed to...) Me and a few of my crew ended up at normal state schools, which was good I guess to get some REAL life experience I can offer my son someday. Been an interesting time.

Having acquaintances and peers going to big colleges definitely fucks with you. It probably took me longer to get the focus needed to graduate from my state school because I'd always held it in low regard because I didn't have the grades to compete.

I think being exposed to people who were having big opportunities handed to them took some of the wind out of my sails. It took me a long time to start to form my own sense of self, and my own identity. Still working on it. My perception is definitely vandalized. I'm not jealous of anyone, and I have met people jealous of me (misinformed people or really struggling).

Elite private schools can be really toxic if you can't compete. I met a friend in state college who came from the same background I did. I thought he was bullshitting when he told me his entire class went Ivy league. I looked it up, and he wasn't kidding. I try to remind myself if this guy can mentally get over that, I can suck it up myself and stop looking down on everything.

hah I just went to a public school. My parents offered me private school, but the high school I went to actually had good technical classes. I took 5 semesters of electronics :D had an excellent teacher, couldn't get that class anywhere else at the time. Couple semesters of programming though all schools were picking that up at the time (cutting edge hehe). Couple semesters of technical drafting (another exclusive class in the district).

Though put that all down out of high school for about five years as I did carpentry until the construction crash, though drafting was very useful at that time. Mostly worked on custom homes. Built my own in fact. Then went back after tech again which took a lot of training and schooling as I moved along. Telecommunications was my thing for the most part. Likely you are accessing this server by way of a program I wrote for a machine to cut out a part that got shoved into a box between point A and point B hah. I'm sure it's still there, and probably will be for the next 5 decades lol.

[George_Costanza]

lol just go to a homogenous public school where you can get an automatic 6.0gpa valedictorian graduation as your white entitlement. why make ur life more difficult than it has to be

[Daywolf]

I'm not talking about someone taking home $10mil a month, I'm talking about the households (not individuals) that enter the $150k a year bracket getting raped under the proposed system.That's going to be lowered too. Expect 40k to become the well off. Well, off what few are left making that much as the middle-class has been raped by intrusive government control. They make it sound all glittery unicorn like, as if $1 less from $10, but in reality everyone is getting screwed all the way down the line from exploration to consumption, taxed into the ground, visible and hidden.

Watch this 2 minute video (https://youtu.be/aEdXrfIMdiU) of this mad hatter tea party nut job present some nonsense idea that would never ever EVER work. That nutbag needs to DIAF!

Rest assured though, these people are not those people :o

[maskedmelon]

I'm not talking about someone taking home $10mil a month, I'm talking about the households (not individuals) that enter the $150k a year bracket getting raped under the proposed system.

I agree with the premise of your argument. Interestingly though, household income of $150k or more is only representative of the top 10%. The bottom 3/4 of households earn less than $85k.

That is a structural imbalance that ought be corrected as a matter of pragmatism.

Three steps needed to correct the imbalance:

1. Purge
2. Exponential tax brackets
3. Zero corporate income tax

None of that will happen though :/ Dems chase 2, while reps chase 3 and neither would ever pursue 1, except maybe Trump who also seems likely to pursue 2 and 3.



Trump 2016.

[sOurDieSel]

Sanders might as well just drop out now. Trump clutched Michigan. Make America Great Again.

[iruinedyourday]

Lmao at this hyperventilating because you just realized Bernie is indeed going to win.

Relax you will all get a pay raise when your min wage is bumped up to 15$ an hour lol

[sOurDieSel]

rofl, I hope Sanders wins the Dem nomination but the chances are slim to none bud. If Sanders got the nomination that would pretty much lock in Trump as president if he got the Republican nom.

[Pokesan]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/pres_general/

sanders dominates the fuck out of trump by 22 pts dude.

[Spyder73]

Lmao at this hyperventilating because you just realized Bernie is indeed going to win.

Relax you will all get a pay raise when your min wage is bumped up to 15$ an hour lol

Donald Trump is what America needs right now. People are sick of career politicians ruining our country and miring us down is BS. We need a strong president that doesn’t take sh!t from anyone – Trump is obviously the answer, and the people of America are definitely behind him.

PREPARE FOR GLORY

[Villide]

Donald Trump is what America needs right now. People are sick of career politicians ruining our country and miring us down is BS. We need a strong president that doesn’t take sh!t from anyone – Trump is obviously the answer, and the people of America are definitely behind him.

PREPARE FOR GLORY
Donald Trump has become "safety in numbers" for dumb people.

[sOurDieSel]

The Democratic Party has become "safety in numbers" for dumb people for the last century.

ftfy

[MrSparkle001]

The Democratic Party has become "safety in numbers" for dumb people for the last century.


ftfy

To be fair both parties have their share of dumb people. One is the party of "They took our jobs! Redneck barbeque!", the other is the party of "I'm poor with a lousy job and it's not fair! I want rich people to give me money!"

We the people are fucking stupid even if we as individuals may be well informed.

[iruinedyourday]

ftfy

lmao bernie supporters HATE the democratic party

you guys don't get it, for once we are all in agreement you can try to make it a media advertising clickfest red vs blue all you want but those days of america doing what the "news" shows tell them to do is at an end.

This is a race between a brilliant mind and a greedy man.. Ill let you decide which is which.

To be fair both parties have their share of dumb people. One is the party of "They took our jobs! Redneck barbeque!", the other is the party of "I'm poor with a lousy job and it's not fair! I want rich people to give me my tax money back!"

We the people are fucking stupid even if we as individuals may be well informed.

this guy gets it... well sorta, fixed it for him.

woop woop

[Villide]

ftfy

Gosh, I see what you did there! You're a crafty one.

[Daywolf]

The Democratic Party has become "safety in numbers" for dumb people for the last century.
ftfy
Their not dumb, just liberal brainwashing causes brain damage. They are really smart at what they do, it's just not logical though. Like in that vid I linked, JFK called for the logical thing to do, but todays dem party hates that with a passion, blindly so.

Are there even any conservative-democrats left any longer? Seems like extinct, right? It's like they all fled to the republican and libertarian parties idk, or just died off. These guys are more like some old 2nd-3rd world socialists, trying to bring the US into some form of globalist government. No, not "more like" but certainly.

This may very well be the last election in the USA, I'm downright serious. Well, there will still be elections, but Canada and Mexico will vote in future politicians for us. Or at least they would try to let them, ya know? Not that they would be anything other than strip and flip elections with a predetermined outcome.


At the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, Franklin was queried as he left Independence Hall on the final day of deliberation. In the notes of Dr. James McHenry, one of Maryland’s delegates to the Convention, a lady asked Dr. Franklin “Well Doctor what have we got, a republic or a monarchy.” Franklin replied, “A republic . . . if you can keep it.”

[Pokesan]

Their not dumb, just liberal brainwashing causes brain damage. They are really smart at what they do, it's just not logical though. Like in that vid I linked, JFK called for the logical thing to do, but todays dem party hates that with a passion, blindly so.

Are there even any conservative-democrats left any longer? Seems like extinct, right? It's like they all fled to the republican and libertarian parties idk, or just died off. These guys are more like some old 2nd-3rd world socialists, trying to bring the US into some form of globalist government. No, not "more like" but certainly.

This may very well be the last election in the USA, I'm downright serious. Well, there will still be elections, but Canada and Mexico will vote in future politicians for us. Or at least they would try to let them, ya know? Not that they would be anything other than strip and flip elections with a predetermined outcome.


At the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, Franklin was queried as he left Independence Hall on the final day of deliberation. In the notes of Dr. James McHenry, one of Maryland’s delegates to the Convention, a lady asked Dr. Franklin “Well Doctor what have we got, a republic or a monarchy.” Franklin replied, “A republic . . . if you can keep it.”

[Villide]

This may very well be the last election in the USA, I'm downright serious. Well, there will still be elections, but Canada and Mexico will vote in future politicians for us. Or at least they would try to let them, ya know? Not that they would be anything other than strip and flip elections with a predetermined outcome.

Well, not to be too "get off my lawn", but I've been hearing this type of thing (and variations thereof) since the early-80's. And I'm quite certain folks older than me have been hearing it for even longer.

While the Dems are still gonna Dem, the Republicans are in the middle of a battle for the direction of their party's future. Once that's resolved, it will all be back to business as usual. The two-party system is big business, and big businesses don't go away easily.

[barrettdc1]

bush did 9/11

[iruinedyourday]

bush did 9/11

"OLD WHITE MEN BLEW UP THE TWO TOWERS!!!

...KILL THE MUSLIMS!!"

-america

[Daywolf]

Well, not to be too "get off my lawn", but I've been hearing this type of thing (and variations thereof) since the early-80's. And I'm quite certain folks older than me have been hearing it for even longer.

While the Dems are still gonna Dem, the Republicans are in the middle of a battle for the direction of their party's future. Once that's resolved, it will all be back to business as usual. The two-party system is big business, and big businesses don't go away easily.
Sure, in fact all the way back to the founding fathers. Hence one of the main reasons for the second amendment. And so since you have heard such things in the past, now that the nation balances on a knife edge, you don't recognize it?

You recognize it, most would LOVE it, to get rid of the constitution, reform the government in many ways - into another government anyway. Most of the libs don't even have a clue what form of government we actually have, they think it's a democracy! Hah! But they are globalists, with a globalist agenda, in all ways so.

Actually the most often used expression is "The president is going to suspend elections indefinitely". This was very much used near the end of Bush's second term by the liberals, high up libs. You might even have contributed to that, to that hysteria, and didn't happen, so now it's irrelevant? Could a president not do that now under any circumstances?

Even IRYD is using such an expression, saying she'll vote for Donald if Bernie doesn't get the dem nomination, but saying she will be voting for war/destruction if so, whatever. Basically she's saying to vote for sanders or you're all dead, a warning, not a promise. Will she vote for Donald? ...idk idc.

But I fully accept that it's not a point of the liberal to believe or disbelieve it, but that in the depths of their heart they wish it were so; that the republic be dissolved. The contrast to that is the JFK video I linked on the previous page, hell no that is nothing like what the dems/libs preach now, and openly mock it when said by any other in the current political scene. It's incomprehensible, there is too much blocking their vision now.

This is serious business right now, and you know that, even if you won't openly admit it because you look forward to what is coming from your brainwashed imaginations. The whole business is "change" the past 8yrs, in the open. But don't think that the USA is so gullible to topple in just 8yrs, no it wasn't, and the next guy in will decide that fate, to change/progress or to conserve. And not even holding the line is acceptable, it must retract, the current situation is a timebomb.

They say anti-establishment candidate, but all I see in Hillary and Bernie is as socialist A and socialist B, something that the US isn't but will be if so, and wont stand. I even have my doubts about Donald, will he just hold the line? Hard to say, but even Reagan had his true turning point (https://youtu.be/EdhvndJsj18), though he still had his problems. And in that lays the civil war among the reps, many of them pretty much sound like libtards now, and to only hold the line if not progress it even further as some of them have done and have been ejected for it, while still other remain.

So yeah, I'm not fooled. I know this doublespeak and the deceptions wound up in it all. A progressive stance, progressively growing in volume as it gets closer to it's goal. Much like plotting a course from mainland US to Hawaii, but starting out 1 degree off course. The further that boat gets to the destination, the further off course it goes, 100's of miles away from Hawaii, where as in the beginning it was just a subtle little error. Then it crashes on the rocks.

tl;dr nuh-uhhh...

[Pokesan]

what the fuck is your definition of socialist that you think it describes hillary clinton

[iruinedyourday]

Poke, thats why they hate free education, they dont want people to be able to counter argue against their insane ignorance.

[Whirled]

Don't vote for this
http://makeagif.com/cLIXMS
At this point, let MrT build the wall he keeps talking about. At least it'd make some jobs.

[Daywolf]

what the fuck is your definition of socialist that you think it describes hillary clinton
You don't know, but don't feel left out, even Hillary has no clue (http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/05/hillary-cant-explain-the-difference-between-a-democrat-and-a-socialist-video/). As slick Willy put it "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is.".

Of course Hillary doesn't want the socialist 'branding', already in play by another. The difference to her is "I get things done". Oh man just hilarious, Hillary, just hilarious.

[Daywolf]

Poke, thats why they hate free education, they dont want people to be able to counter argue against their insane ignorance.
Sure it's "free", free for our great great grandchildren to pay for.
"It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is." --Slick Willy.

[iruinedyourday]

Sure it's "free", free for our great great grandchildren to pay for.
"It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is." --Slick Willy.

Dude that's stupid you're stupid. You're paying for free education right now but the government is spending it on antiquated weapons of war that have no effect on any targeted enemy of ours at all.

Your arguments are dumb and you should feel bad.

You're being robbed by peter and you are yelling at paul.

[barrettdc1]

The recipients of free liberal rinsing(college) will immediately begin shaking uncontrollably and drop to the floor in a fetal-position after they hear an opinion they dont like/agree with. The only jibbering that you will get that will be as close as they can muster of a counter-argument will be "...muh...muh...muh safe space! "

[Villide]

LOL. You play at being some type of enlightened citizen, but you're still stuck in the assumptions that anyone that doesn't see the world the same as you must be liberal. And "libtard" seems to be your go-to crutch word.

You're marching in a line, just like everyone you decry. All the protestations and flowery language ain't hiding it.

[iruinedyourday]

The recipients of free liberal rinsing(college) will immediately begin shaking uncontrollably and drop to the floor in a fetal-position after they hear an opinion they dont like/agree with. The only jibbering that you will get that will be as close as they can muster of a counter-argument will be "...muh...muh...muh safe space! "

you just described everyone of daywolfs posts so idk what 2 tell u.

[Daywolf]

you just described everyone of daywolfs posts so idk what 2 tell u.I don't muster a counter-argument? Do you even know what that actually even means? "counter-arguement"? It mans a little more than just throwing out vague nonsensical accusations at least. Even best if using 'silly things' like references and source quotes to make a point. Just in the past few pages I've quoted/linked Reagan, JFK, Hillary, Slick Willy, to make my counter-arguments. He wasn't commenting on whether or not you accept those counter-arguments, just that you really present none...

Dude that's stupid you're stupid. You're paying for free education right now but the government is spending it on antiquated weapons of war that have no effect on any targeted enemy of ours at all.

Your arguments are dumb and you should feel bad.

You're being robbed by peter and you are yelling at paul.
Pras BofA for adding that balance button on their ATM's or you'd be incredibly livid trying to figure out that silly $$ nonsense.

[Pokesan]

You don't know, but don't feel left out, even Hillary has no clue (http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/05/hillary-cant-explain-the-difference-between-a-democrat-and-a-socialist-video/). As slick Willy put it "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is.".

Of course Hillary doesn't want the socialist 'branding', already in play by another. The difference to her is "I get things done". Oh man just hilarious, Hillary, just hilarious.

ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION

[iruinedyourday]

I love this guy calls hillary a socialist when really shes an illuminati demon puppeted by the dark lord Obama.

http://i.imgur.com/mE8mI27.png

[AzzarTheGod]

Answer the mans question!

p.s. loving that dem (dumb) base...nice landslide in Mississippi.

That is a huge entitlement state too, you would think they would be all in with Sanders. Shows how archaic our system is. The candidate they want to vote for can't even reach them. Instead they vote for Obama 2.0 thinking its a meaningful change in administration.

keep fluoridating that water amirite? :)

[Xaanka]

http://i.imgur.com/darsO36.png

[quido]

Another dumb trannyquest post

I voted for Bernie in Michigan yesterday - felt good

[joao024]

I voted for Bernie in Virginia. Didn't make much difference. But at least there was an actual choice on the ticket this year. Usually the democratic candidates are Ronald Reagan or Pro-gay Ronald Reagan.

[Daywolf]

Answer the mans question!
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/388560/why-hillarys-alinsky-letters-matter-stanley-kurtz

http://freebeacon.com/politics/the-hillary-letters/

Was busy vetting my sources. That's Hillary.

Had to dig out something better than alice in wonderland meme's as we usually get from him ;)

[iruinedyourday]

I voted for Bernie in Virginia. Didn't make much difference. But at least there was an actual choice on the ticket this year. Usually the democratic candidates are Ronald Reagan or Pro-gay Ronald Reagan.

I am cuious, why do you think hillary won VA? I was wondering what the scene was like there.. could you shed any light on it? Why they support her?

r they not connected to the internet or what?

[joao024]

It wasn't Iowa that's for sure, where a Hillary win was precipitated by nothing more than a series of lost coin tosses.

No, In Virginia Sanders lost big. I am from the northern part where there is a great deal of smart, educated people. The rest of the state is knuckle dragging morons. But remember, this is the capitol of the South, so the age old totally dipshit state politics is deeply entrenched.

[AzzarTheGod]

I am cuious, why do you think hillary won VA? I was wondering what the scene was like there.. could you shed any light on it? Why they support her?

r they not connected to the internet or what?

Most have government jobs in NOVA. NOVA is a huge G-Man state. G men do whatever the water cooler tone is, and its definitely NOT Sanders. Its all about the first woman president, and a Clinton at that.

They are establishment boot lickers in NOVA, and it trickles down to south VA from there. gov goons set the tone at the dinner table.

Literally I can walk through a NOVA neighborhood with 5 rocks in my hand, throw them in pitch blackness and hit a gov/state employee's house 2/5 times. And someone who has a family member in the G 3/5 times.

[Daywolf]

Well at least with Bernie you get what you see.
Bernie: I'm about democratic socialism!
Hillary: I'm not that, I'm something else, something..., just trust me!

[George_Costanza]

Most have government jobs in NOVA. NOVA is a huge G-Man state. G men do whatever the water cooler tone is, and its definitely NOT Sanders. Its all about the first woman president, and a Clinton at that.

They are establishment boot lickers in NOVA, and it trickles down to south VA from there. gov goons set the tone at the dinner table.

good post. My real life anecdotes concur not that I am that informed statistically on what kind of retards would actually vote for Hillary.

hillary is the gwoman. The only people I know IRL voting for Hill are all military. They still think the last Bush was not that bad (srsly. and i guess he wasn't for them - he kept the checks comin) and want another spymaster Putin type. They are literal traitors who deserve to be shot in the face, but so is everyone voting for free shit from Bernie so what the hell.

[iruinedyourday]

Most have government jobs in NOVA. NOVA is a huge G-Man state. G men do whatever the water cooler tone is, and its definitely NOT Sanders. Its all about the first woman president, and a Clinton at that.

They are establishment boot lickers in NOVA, and it trickles down to south VA from there. gov goons set the tone at the dinner table.

Literally I can walk through a NOVA neighborhood with 5 rocks in my hand, throw them in pitch blackness and hit a gov/state employee's house 2/5 times. And someone who has a family member in the G 3/5 times.

awesome thanks, I didn't even think of that.. but it makes total sense. I was so confused why he couldn't take hold of that state but you cleared it up. Thanks!

[joao024]

That might be true. All the dumb democratic baby boomer old people also foam for Hillary. WHY? The only thing the democratic party has done is institute Romneycare and lose the senate, 30 seats in the house, and lost 10 governorships. sign me up???

[barrettdc1]

LOL. You play at being some type of enlightened citizen, but you're still stuck in the assumptions that anyone that doesn't see the world the same as you must be liberal. And "libtard" seems to be your go-to crutch word.

You're marching in a line, just like everyone you decry. All the protestations and flowery language ain't hiding it.

Shut your mouth, libtard.

[George_Costanza]

Libtards are a real thing tho. The word is certainly a red flag, but if you're willing to apply it to neocons and people who foam for reagan you can be more or less on board with reality while using it.

[iruinedyourday]

Libtards are a real thing tho. The word is certainly a red flag, but if you're willing to apply it to neocons you can be more or less on board with reality while using it.

thank god the hilary/bernie split hopefully shined light on who the real libtards are.

[Villide]

Shut your mouth, libtard.

Be sure to lean back when you're goose-stepping!

[Daywolf]

Libtards are a real thing tho. The word is certainly a red flag, but if you're willing to apply it to neocons and people who foam for reagan you can be more or less on board with reality while using it.
I don't see the connection, unless you are talking about those crazy ass mofo's that were trying to associate Romney with Reagan in more recent current events.

I've called certain types of Republicans, libtards, more or less RINO's for the most part but others as well, sure some neocons (I'm none of those things). Liberal use of government is generally at the heart of that, so damn retard they think they need big government to govern them in all areas of life, from cradle to grave. They still dream of the days when they were swaddled and had pacifiers in their drooling traps :D

Ima damn sovereign and government is my servant!
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson

[Pokesan]

I don't see the connection, unless you are talking about those crazy ass mofo's that were trying to associate Romney with Reagan in more recent current events.

I've called certain types of Republicans, libtards, more or less RINO's for the most part but others as well, sure some neocons (I'm none of those things). Liberal use of government is generally at the heart of that, so damn retard they think they need big government to govern them in all areas of life, from cradle to grave. They still dream of the days when they were swaddled and had pacifiers in their drooling traps :D

Ima damn sovereign and government is my servant!
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson

calling everyone RINOs is a big part of why the party is currently imploding

well done!

[Daywolf]

calling everyone RINOs is a big part of why the party is currently imploding

well done!You display some of the biggest libtard tendencies here, how is it you are offended? Is it that the revolution might succeed and then mobilize to prevail over your masters?

btw before any be confused over Pokes accusations, I'm a Constitutionalist, not a Republican, as I've said before. I might have registered as Rep during Reagan (if I were old enough at the time), but not in the trail of derbies since. Would luv to see the Reps pull their act together though, into something real again.

Edit: and when I say "biggest", I just mean you parrot it, not that you actually give any substance to it or even really know what it is. I don't hate you, just sad you turned your mind into a bowl of mush for them to piz in.

[Pokesan]

I'm being serious. Screeching RINO the second any Republican steps even slightly out of line with the most hardline right view has a lot to do with the current situation.

I'd vastly prefer a sane Republican party to whatever nonsense has been going on since 2008. As entertaining as this election is and will continue being, make a farce of american elections is overall a bad thing for our democracy.

[Daywolf]

I'm being serious. Screeching RINO the second any Republican steps even slightly out of line with the most hardline right view has a lot to do with the current situation.

I'd vastly prefer a sane Republican party to whatever nonsense has been going on since 2008. As entertaining as this election is and will continue being, make a farce of american elections is overall a bad thing for our democracy.
What are you talking about, how many times have I said TRUMP ? I'm not joking. Even Rush today (https://youtu.be/yUJTS2J5h8o?t=3510) was saying that the majority of evangelicals are supporting TRUMP and he's amazed, over Cruz! I like Cruz though too. Would make a good ticket the two of them.

Point is TRUMP is not a "conservative". Everyone knows that. He's good to go because he's a real business man, and his business sense makes sense. America needs jobs, not the Lilliputians idea that unemployment is some 4% or some such insane nonsense. It's fucking wrekt! He's moderate, and he'll uphold the damn constitution (e.g. see Article 4, section 4, clause 2) even though he's moderate. That's still ground gained back. And other points of the constitution he has addressed (e.g. killing 0bamacare and other things).

The problem is they brainwashed you to put all opposition into a box. Generally conservatives, constututionalists and even moderates are individuals, as in contrast to the groupthink liberals teach others to be and claim all others are. The real world just isn't that way.

That whole segment link is good though. The entirety of the show was pretty solid today, might even appeal to some Bernie types as far as info and entertainment.

[Pokesan]

why yes, that is indeed a hugely digressive post addressing nothing i said!

[Pokesan]

less than halfway paying attention but - is bernie kicking total ass in this debate? sure seems like it

[Daywolf]

why yes, that is indeed a hugely digressive post addressing nothing i said!Then you have trouble reading. TRUMP isn't a RINO, yet he is definitely out of line as you say.

[Pokesan]

you don't know what a RINO is if trump isn't one.

but noone does anymore, it's just something conservatives yell themselves hoarse over when they get bored

[Daywolf]

you don't know what a RINO is if trump isn't one.

but noone does anymore, it's just something conservatives yell themselves hoarse over when they get bored
Absurd tactic like my libtard0 sister uses here (and she comes as commie as they come): tear everyone down to elevate your failed opinion so to the presumptuous wiiin. A tactic generally used out of desperation for the individual completely out of touch with the actual issues.

[barrettdc1]

Everyone is missing the point. Nothing is going to change, no matter who becomes president. People were saying how the country would be destroyed and we'd be in martial law and the dollar would be worthless for like the last 20 years, and look, none of that happened. Anyone can say anything on the campaign trail, but once they're in the oval office, they must play ball. That's when the shadow cabal reptilian overlord rothschild rockefeller carnigie hall mk ultra bush towers planet x 5th dimension nephilim anti-christ flat earth influence comes into fruition.

[Pokesan]

Absurd tactic like my libtard0 sister uses here (and she comes as commie as they come): tear everyone down to elevate your failed opinion so to the presumptuous wiiin. A tactic generally used out of desperation for the individual completely out of touch with the actual issues.

this does nothing to address the statement Trump=RINO
it may actually enhance it, given that you are a complete dumbass

bolded for you

Everyone is missing the point. Nothing is going to change, no matter who becomes president. People were saying how the country would be destroyed and we'd be in martial law and the dollar would be worthless for like the last 20 years, and look, none of that happened. Anyone can say anything on the campaign trail, but once they're in the oval office, they must play ball. That's when the shadow cabal reptilian overlord rothschild rockefeller carnigie hall mk ultra bush towers planet x 5th dimension nephilim anti-christ flat earth influence comes into fruition.

there is value in howling into the void. don't be such a dullard; also post better.

bolded for you

[Daywolf]

this does nothing to address the statement Trump=RINO
it may actually enhance it, given that you are a complete dumbass

bolded for you
Statement, what statement?? What am I, the friggen white house press corps here?!? :D

You're accusations are silly whitewash (https://youtu.be/yxitrwKmcHo), Tom.

[Pokesan]

stop linking car commercials

[Daywolf]

stop linking car commercials
lol what are you using, the stupid youtube app? That's like all it plays now :p

[AzzarTheGod]

you don't know what a RINO is if trump isn't one.

but noone does anymore, it's just something conservatives yell themselves hoarse over when they get bored

good post

[Daywolf]

good post

Dude, you, Rubio and Romney walk into a bar and the bartender says..... Oh, have you heard that one before, Azz? Anyway ends in "RINO's!" >.>
:rolleyes:

[entruil]

Ron Paul 2032

[iruinedyourday]

Everyone is missing the point. Nothing is going to change, no matter who becomes president. People were saying how the country would be destroyed and we'd be in martial law and the dollar would be worthless for like the last 20 years, and look, none of that happened. Anyone can say anything on the campaign trail, but once they're in the oval office, they must play ball. That's when the shadow cabal reptilian overlord rothschild rockefeller carnigie hall mk ultra bush towers planet x 5th dimension nephilim anti-christ flat earth influence comes into fruition.

idk I dissagree, i think the whole process is getting flipped.. unless of course hillary dominates trump.. which i have no idea if thats possible. The realist in me thinks yes, the skeptic says hell no!

Thats assuming that democrats roll over and allow the DNC to put her in the race despite the obvious Sanders.

Watching House of Cards I was thinking ,man this show is going to be completely inaccurate in its depiction of politics, in like 8 years.

Hell with people like TRUMP running, its not a stretch to see celebrities & comedians like Bill Maher or Jon Stewart run in future elections.

Imagine if this type of, 'outsider' politics was happening when George Carlin was at his prime, hed run and get like 90% of the national vote kek

[dafier]

Everyone is missing the point. Nothing is going to change, no matter who becomes president.

You are very wrong. I will bring up one point that proves it.

Defense Spending

EVERY Democrat destroys the money that is given to NASA, DoD and all military branches. Because our nations defense, or at least most of it is stupid to them (It appears that way).

EVERY Republican always increases spending from the previous Democrat (president) reduction, and if it were a previous Repub POTUS, the spending stays about the same.

President Obama has absolutely killed the defense budget and the 'things' he put in place keep making cuts to almost every part of it. THAT is the truth and cannot be argued. Bill did the same.

GW Bush poured so much money in to Defense that it is/was questionable, but hey, when you go to war you need money. And, on that note, it's funny how stupid people are when it comes to how much that War cost. Almost every libtard and demoshit says that's why we are 20 tril in debt, when the war has almost NOTHING to do with that overall number. But hey, you see what you want to see and you believe what you want to believe because everyone thinks everyone is stupid.

Ya?

[iruinedyourday]

I think caps NOTHING to do with it.. is a bit of an EXAGGERATION....

[dafier]

Your perception can not be questioned.

[Pokesan]

Your perception can not be questioned.

and your stupidity cannot be underestimated.

[maskedmelon]

I have come to the conclusion that as long as the US maintains a strong military everywhere, fans the flames of Middle East tensions and suppresses alternative forms of energy, we can finance whatever we want by printing more petro dollars.

End America's global dominance and we'll need to actually be responsible.

[iruinedyourday]

https://youtu.be/koZIPO2Id6I

[Daywolf]

https://youtu.be/koZIPO2Id6I
Oh wow so informative...

or
https://youtu.be/vmg-TQAVKqY

[iruinedyourday]

i would like to officially say, fuck any asshole that thinks shopping for insurance is fun or interesting or a part of thier life that they like and or want to have in it.

seriously fuck any asshole who fucking wants to shop for insurance of any type.

[Daywolf]

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ftfy

[iruinedyourday]

why the fuck do you want to shop for insurance you moran

[Lune]

All insurance should be state-owned enterprise. There is nothing to gain from competition in this industry. Once an actuary runs the numbers, BAM you know how much money you need to collect in order to provide a certain level of coverage. All insurance companies are doing when they compete with one another is giving the illusion of a better product by reducing rates while also offering inferior coverage in line with those rates, while still remaining profitable, or being superior marketers. All for-profit collective risk management is just skimming money off the top, producing nothing of value, and making nothing more efficient.

Lune's List of Things That Should Be Run By the Government

[X] Police
[X] Fire
[X] Healthcare
[X] Insurance
[X] Utilities, including internet service
[X] Space Exploration

[Pokesan]

you forgot

[X] Brothels

[iruinedyourday]

All insurance should be state-owned enterprise. There is nothing to gain from competition in this industry. Once an actuary runs the numbers, BAM you know how much money you need to collect in order to provide a certain level of coverage. All insurance companies are doing when they compete with one another is giving the illusion of a better product by reducing rates while also offering inferior coverage in line with those rates, while still remaining profitable, or being superior marketers. All for-profit collective risk management is just skimming money off the top, producing nothing of value, and making nothing more efficient.

Lune's List of Things That Should Be Run By the Government

[X] Police
[X] Fire
[X] Healthcare
[X] Insurance
[X] Utilities, including internet service
[X] Space Exploration

yea for profit security like that is so dumb.

If they are making profits, just divide that up by the people that pay into that insurance and reduce payments by that much, kek.

oh well, soon robots will handle ALL of that and there will be nobody involved to be greedy about those profits.

Or bernie sanders will be president and we can cut this insurance bullshit out.

basically if you're pro insurance you're either an idiot, or in that business and don't know how to do anything else.

and b4 conservatives say we need competition in those fields, explain to me why your utilities are so shitty that they're still burning coal, we pay the highest price for prescription drugs & we have the worst internet speeds of any developed nation?

[Daywolf]

why the fuck do you want to shop for insurance you moranYo At least you consistent. You put nahh effort into anythin` (e.g postings, healf care etc) an' then expect brothas ta do so fo' you Don' make me come ova there biach...

[Daywolf]

you forgot

[X] Brothels
The secret list:
[X] Farms
[X] Manufacturing businesses
[X] Banks
[X] All land and everything on it
[X] The air you breathe
[X] What goes on in your mind

[Hastley]

All insurance should be state-owned enterprise. There is nothing to gain from competition in this industry. Once an actuary runs the numbers, BAM you know how much money you need to collect in order to provide a certain level of coverage. All insurance companies are doing when they compete with one another is giving the illusion of a better product by reducing rates while also offering inferior coverage in line with those rates, while still remaining profitable, or being superior marketers. All for-profit collective risk management is just skimming money off the top, producing nothing of value, and making nothing more efficient.

Lune's List of Things That Should Be Run By the Government

[X] Police
[X] Fire
[X] Healthcare
[X] Insurance
[X] Utilities, including internet service
[X] Space Exploration

Step right up to comrade sanders soup line pal

[Pokesan]

Step right up to comrade sanders soup line pal

you ever had matzah soup? it's pretty good you should get out more

[Lune]

you forgot

[X] Brothels

nah son prostitute quality improves with competition, Adam Smith said so