Tunare's Loot Table

[Daldaen]

The number of drops Tunare currently can hold is incorrect. Typically on P99 she drops a single item. Rarely she can drop two.

This is incorrect. She should be dropping 4 items consistently.

Now of course, since this mob was only killed twice during Velious, once during the mid-term (FoH/CD) and once during the end (Afterlife), there doesn't exist too much reliable in-era information. The mid-Velious kill I believe resulted in only BPs. The later Velious one by AL dropped some Tunare loot.

http://www.afterlifeguild.org/template.cgi?page=index_may_oct01

Afterlife's update shows no loot but she is wielding the whip (and isn't perma rooted).

However there is some very close information from Legacy of Steel's archive:

January 14th 2002 Update:

Shows 4 Tunare Drops.

http://legacyofsteel.net/archives/2002-01-14/braidofgoldenhair.jpg
http://legacyofsteel.net/archives/2002-01-14/goldenleafearring.jpg
http://legacyofsteel.net/archives/2002-01-14/petrifiedheartwoodflam.jpg
http://legacyofsteel.net/archives/2002-01-14/sapencrustedbarnch.jpg

January 29th 2002 Update:

http://legacyofsteel.net/archives/2002-01-29/tunarecorpse.jpg

Shows 4 Tunare drops + 2 BPs.

January 29th 2002 Update:

https://web.archive.org/web/20020205013642/http://www.harmonium.net/default.asp

Ok, maybe it's not all shitty...but then again, I am biased as a bard ! Grats Bumrak on a Nature's Melody, Shoryuken on the monk gloves and Sondarious and Korhal on the staffs of ass.

Showing 4 Tunare drops (bard, monk, and 2 staves)

Unfortunately the other guild websites posting kills in early 2002 don't archive well, and no other information is readily available in this era.

I can pull my logs from live, and she does drop 4 loots there regularly, never dropping only a single item though.

[Ele]

Fires of Heaven kill in July 2001 had 2 necro robes and a single Blade of the Swarm.


http://web.archive.org/web/20010809194733/http://www.noows.com/showthread.php?threadid=2719

[Daldaen]

Ah I didn't even think that version dropped the blade.

Do you know what Afterlife's version dropped beyond the whip the pictures show?

It wasn't even perma-rooted until mid Luclin, but it is already Permarooted here. So we have the Luclin version already I figured the loots would follow.

Should the bug report be changed to remove the perma rooted status of Tunare?

[Freakish]

She also never wielded a weapon other than the sap encrusted branch. There's screenshots of her holding weapons not on her loot table, like rusty maces, but that's a whole different bug report.

The significance of her wielding bard haste daggers is significant. She procs them and hastes herself here.

[Daldaen]

http://www.afterlifeguild.org/images/velious/tunare01.jpg

Shows her wielding he whip Atleast.

[maximum]

Lots of information here (closed thread): http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181066

[Freakish]

I've never seen a screenshot of her wielding a flamberge or dagger. Or any of her other flashy weapons. Only seen her wield the staff in guild update threads, then screenshots of her with junk rusty weapons. On live, you were able to hand weapons to npc and they would wield them, even without charm.

[Daldaen]

http://www.talismanguild.org/index.php?news_id=14


Tunare is dead. The drops from the wench were VERY nice resulting in Essences of Nature for both Yikten and myself (Qhue), as well as a nice new Thorn for Nedden, and our resident uber warrior from the orient Chuns got her amazing Girdle.

Another January 2002 post with 4 loot Tunare. Again showing her smaller and not perma rooted.

The perma root post was April, 2002 according to Allakhazam. Likely it is the same time as when they increased her size.

So we've established the mid Velious kill had 1 loots. The late Velious kill had unknown loots, Atleast 1 whip. And the early Luclin kills have 4 loots consistently.

I guess it's up to nilbog. It can be left in the Permarooted mode, in which case it should probably be dropping the 4 loots every time. If not the Permarooted should be removed because that wasn't in until Velious. Unknown how many drops she can have during the late Velious era though. Afterlife doesn't still have its DKP archived does it?

Edit - https://web.archive.org/web/20011216094216/http://afterlifeguild.org/dkp.cgi Seems useless.

[Daldaen]

I've never seen a screenshot of her wielding a flamberge or dagger. Or any of her other flashy weapons. Only seen her wield the staff in guild update threads, then screenshots of her with junk rusty weapons. On live, you were able to hand weapons to npc and they would wield them, even without charm.

http://www.talismanguild.org/images/1-15-02_tunare.jpg

Dagger wielded.

[Ele]

https://web.archive.org/web/20131017034741/http://www.legacyofsorrow.net/events/12-03-2001/tunareloot.gif

Pre-Luclin.

[Daldaen]

Very nice.

So pre-Luclin it drops the 4 items as stated. It depends on when this changed from the 1-2 item drop to the 4.

Probably around the October-December timeframe? Furor's post may have been the catalyst for the change. Cause clearing that zone for 1-2 drops is the suck.

[Nibblewitz]

1-2 Luclin items tho.

[Ele]

1-2 Luclin items tho.

what? :confused:

[Colgate]

yikes 1 item? what a shitty waste of time

[Daldaen]

Exactly what Furor thought. Which is classic.

But it shouldn't always be, see the evidence of 4 loot drop Tunare on multiple guild websites. In summary:

Tunare shouldn't be perma rooted ever on P99 unless Luclin is released (April 2002 change)
Tunare should drop 4 items from her loot table + 2 BPs at some point in timeline (between July 2001 - December 2001???)

[khanable]

bring back the bfg chain

free tunare 2016

[Yuuvy The Destroyer]

Exactly what Furor thought. Which is classic.

But it shouldn't always be, see the evidence of 4 loot drop Tunare on multiple guild websites. In summary:

Tunare shouldn't be perma rooted ever on P99 unless Luclin is released (April 2002 change)
Tunare should drop 4 items from her loot table + 2 BPs at some point in timeline (between July 2001 - December 2001???)

http://www.silentredemption.org/raids.cgi?mid=55&dayselect=9999&x=26&y=15

Our first kill was 11/18/01 and she dropped 3 items.

[planarity]

https://web.archive.org/web/20131017034741/http://www.legacyofsorrow.net/events/12-03-2001/tunareloot.gif

Pre-Luclin.

what's the key?

[Ele]

what's the key?

Probably some minor dungeon key. She also had a water on her in that pic.

[Daldaen]

Based on the Silent Redemption info:

5-21-02 -- 4 Loot - Ear x2, Rogue Dagger, Bard Dagger
5-11-02 -- 3 Loot - Ear, 2 Hand Sword, Snare Staff
5-06-02 -- 4 Loot - Ear, FT 5 Secondary, Girdle, Rogue Dagger
4-22-02 -- 4 Loot - Rogue Dagger, 2 Hand Sword, Snare Staff x2
4-08-02 -- 4 Loot - Ear, FT 5 Secondary, 2 Hand Sword, Snare Staff
3-24-02 -- 3 Loot - Rogue Dagger, Girdle, FT 5 Secondary
3-10-02 -- 4 Loot - Rogue Dagger, Ear, FT 5 Secondary, Whip
3-02-02 -- 4 Loot - Ear, FT 5 Secondary, 2 Hand Sword, Whip
2-23-02 -- 4 Loot - Ear x2, FT 5 Secondary x2
1-06-02 -- 2 Loot - Ear x2
12-30-01 -- 2 Loot - Bard Dagger, Whip
11-18-01 -- 3 Loot - FT 5 Secondary, Rogue Dagger, 2 Hand Sword

Though it seems weird, a lot of their raids have no loot and the Participants were only like 30ish.

The water + key were likely just traded to her by someone random.

[Freakish]

Fail raids, people 2 boxed on live, possibly their loot tracking did not include applicants or those under 60, etc. I wouldn't put much weight on their raid participant numbers.

[Yuuvy The Destroyer]

raids with no loot posted are probably failed attempts. Might be around the time she became rooted. Raid numbers for the most part are accurate. With obvious exceptions.

[Daldaen]

I *think* I figured out how Tunare's loot table works on P99.

Every kill on P99 includes 3 drops. However those drops can be anything from Tunare's loot table or the Growth BPs... This is incorrect. To all the evidence posted, she should drop 2 BPs in addition to Tunare's loot table. The BPs and her unique loot should be on two separate tables.

From June 2001 - Pre Luclin Date - Can drop 1-3 loots + 2 BPs
From Pre Luclin Date - Luclin Launch and beyond - Can drop 3-4 loots + 2 BPs

Also Nilbog, I know we've got a small sample size, but the Golden Leaf Earring has yet to drop on this server. Can you confirm it is correctly on her loot table?

[Llandris]

Also Nilbog, I know we've got a small sample size, but the Golden Leaf Earring has yet to drop on this server. Can you confirm it is correctly on her loot table?

Well considering Tunare has only been killed a half dozen times on blue (and never on red), don't think thats nearly a large enough sample size.

[Daldaen]

Indeed but every other item has been seen 2-3 times at this point. They're all easy to see visually, except the Girdle (which we have seen 3 of) and the Earring (which we have yet to see).

Just was asking to make sure our clerics don't riot :). They have dreams too Llandris!

What I would also be very curious about is if the 3-drop Tunare we have on P99 with shared BP / Tunare loot table is capable of dropping just 3 BPs. That would be the ultimate troll.

[qualia]

Well considering Tunare has only been killed a half dozen times on blue (and never on red), don't think thats nearly a large enough sample size.

with all due respect, hard to find incentive to continuously test a mob that requires an active raid force a minimum of 8 hours for the possibility of 1 loot.

needs fixn'

[Colgate]

yea that's why we never did it on red

colossal waste of time

[Ele]

yea that's why we never did it on red

colossal waste of time

can't that be applied to anything in EQ?

[Harbogast]

I just cleared trash for 8 hours and killed the 2nd hardest boss in the game for 1 loot and 2 garbage BPs. /suicide

[qualia]

I just cleared trash for 8 hours and killed the 2nd hardest boss in the game for 1 loot and 2 garbage BPs. /suicide

confirmed

[Harbogast]

I just cleared trash for 8 hours and killed the 2nd hardest boss in the game for 1 loot and 2 garbage BPs. *AGAIN

[delfi]

I just cleared trash for 8 hours and killed the 2nd hardest boss in the game for 1 amazing BiS loot and Fun Times! *AGAIN

Fixed Harbo :p

[Daldaen]

At this point in the time table it should be getting changed to 4 Tunare Loots and 2 BPs guaranteed every kill.

Many screenshots and posts from October 2001 onward showing this.

[Harbogast]

Right now we are in hour 2 of sitting around re-spawning Tunare over and over. We have to do this until she is dual wielding real items, for fear of her totally useless drops. As you can imagine, this significantly lowers the chance of getting a real item which she doesn't equip in her hands, like the earring or belt. It's a little bit frustrating for sure if you want one of those items.

[Aesop]

sounds like time for some real serious self-reflection to me

[Crom]

I just cleared trash for 8 hours and killed the 2nd hardest boss in the game for 1 loot and 2 garbage BPs. *AGAIN

/This again

[Ciroco]

bumplerooski

[Victorio]

Bump

[Mud]

To the top.

[Mud]

Up

[Mud]

bump

[nyclin]

Gotta start rephrasing these bug reports:

Tunare having the appropriate amount of loot for the era would be a huge detriment to players, as we'd have knight 2handers and Bard rapiers rotting constantly. Nothing worse than looting a Tunare and seeing 2 Rapiers and a PHF.

[Victorio]

Badabooump

[Senescant]

Badabooump

[Victorio]

Bump

[icedwards]

A tragedy this slipped to the 3rd page - BUMP!

[Bellringer]

Unless mentioned here, no. If there are relevant threads, bump them with specifics and I will look into it.

Bump_0050

[SpinFin]

I just cleared trash for 8 hours and killed the 2nd hardest boss in the game for 1 loot and 2 garbage BPs. *AGAIN

12 Hours 1 Tuna Loot 2 BPs today

Help

[nilbog]

Fixed, pending update

[Detoxx]

Fixed, pending update
Does that mean all of this is fixed?

Exactly what Furor thought. Which is classic.

But it shouldn't always be, see the evidence of 4 loot drop Tunare on multiple guild websites. In summary:

Tunare shouldn't be perma rooted ever on P99 unless Luclin is released (April 2002 change)
Tunare should drop 4 items from her loot table + 2 BPs at some point in timeline (between July 2001 - December 2001???)

Thanks for your time, Nilbog!

[Erati]

calling it now

Tunare will typically drop 2 loots from her 'real' table with a chance to drop a third loot.

Thus is the P99 way for raid mobs in Velious and it shall be the same here too !

[tobi]

Fixed, pending update

Thanks nilbog. You're a true hero.

[nilbog]

Does that mean all of this is fixed?


Tunare should drop 4 items from her loot table + 2 BPs at some point in timeline (between July 2001 - December 2001???)-Tunare will drop 2 BPs + 2-4 loots

Tunare shouldn't be perma rooted ever on P99 unless Luclin is released (April 2002 change)This has not changed as there isn't enough information to recreate it, afaik. Prior to p99 Velious being released, there was a thread asking for specifics. The results were inconclusive, so the field version was created. If this information is now available, post it up, and we will work to make it as classic as possible, whether it be for this server or the next pve server. Thanks!

[Daldaen]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=5335&p=3#comments

April 2002 Quote in response to February 2002 mob summary which didn't mention the root.

She's permarooted now - starts out in her treehouse, but warps out to the forrest near it when aggroed. Easier fight now imo.

She doesn't rampage, but flurries quite a bit - maybe every 5 seconds or so. High resists (no lifetaps, gotta use lures, etc.)

Only real problem with her is her knockback + root, but it's pretty easy to overcome with some thought.

See the OP link I have for the Afterlife picture as well as the final post on the first page. Note the location of Tunare in the Afterlife picture (October 2001) and the relative size of her vs. elves and dwarves in the pictures.

The real question mark right now is how should it behave?

Should Tunare in the treehouse be the normal Tunare that you can pull anywhere?
Should she still respawn into the field version and just not be permarooted?

I'd lean on the former being the most likely scenario based on the quote above.

[diamondfist]

-Tunare will drop 2 BPs + 2-4 loots



Equal chance of 2, 3, or 4 drops from her unique table?
or are dice loaded to one side or the other?


Thanks for taking notice, and responding to this issue btw :)