XP penalty. What gives?

[ShadowKing]

As a novice (I played semi-hardcore from launch until 2001 and then casually from then to 2003) I'm just now learning the little details of this game. One thing the game didn't mention in 1999 was the xp penalty. The creators didn't make it obvious that such a thing was even in the game. This aggravates me a little to find out that this was in the game. I'm not mad...It just makes me love the challenge even more. :D

[NarcolepticLTD]

I don't think it was any secret back then honestly

[ShadowKing]

I guess was figured out by players.

[Superranger]

Whoa what is this signature !

[eadric]

Hybrid xp penalties are gone at this point, never to return.

Racial penalties are still a thing, but wouldn't affect you as a ranger.

If you feel useless as a ranger, play something else. Not everyone is up to the task of being a ranger!

[Robbintha Hood]

Yeah, the player community knew that xp penalties existed back in the day on live (both racial and class). That being said, when I started my troll warrior on live, back in 2000, I personally felt that I leveled quicker than the human warrior I had previously deleted. Then again, I was leveling that troll mostly in Upper Guk.

[Morlaeth]

I knew about it back then. I even knew that Troll SKs had the worse penalty of all (matched by Iksar SKs in Kunark).

[fadetree]

Don't worry, Rangering is still hard. It's just not soulcrushing....as much.

[Tann]

Hybrid xp penalties are gone at this point, never to return.

All penalties are gone less racials, no more -20% for monks and -10% for INT casters!!!

[Daywolf]

Don't worry, Rangering is still hard. It's just not soulcrushing....as much.
Yeah, thanks to fear kite now. You can do that stuff nekid.
And sure, penalties were known, just specifics were fuzzy for a while me thinks.

[Lunababy]

You have become better at Game Design! (1)

This thread's topic is on the subject of Inaccessibility

[Jimjam]

All penalties are gone less racials, no more -20% for monks and -10% for INT casters!!!

I thought it was just all class penalties?

so class bonuses remain (rogue/war) and race penalties/bonuses remain?

[Issar]

so class bonuses remain (rogue/war) and race penalties/bonuses remain?

That is correct. Verant provided a lengthy and heavily detailed post the day they removed class penalties, which included how experience was calculated pre and post XP Penalty removal. IIRC they stated that they did not see a need to remove the war/rog boost, as the classes were at a major disadvantage from a solo perspective.

[iruinedyourday]

What I want to know is what class race combo was OP and I'd like to hear some stories about how he always thought leveling was impossible in this game when he was a kid