Should I re roll?

[ShadowKing]

Hi, I'm fairly new to the game and was concerned about my character. I made a wood elf and it only has 80 strength and I'm always over weight. Should I re make with more strenght?

[RDawg816]

That depends.
What class is your wood elf? A rogue? A ranger?
What do you want to do? Raid? Solo? Meander through the woods in sheer amazement?

You could also work on weighing less. Backpacks are nice, but heavy. There are alternatives. A medicine bag, for example, weighs much less and holds the same.
There are also weight reduction bags. You can also destroy copper. Most people do that anyways...

[ShadowKing]

Ranger. I want to meander through the woods with star-struck Druid Warrior eyes =)

[ShadowKing]

But really though, I'm concerned about weight and how to mitigate it. I looked for medicine bags in Faydark but I couldn't find them. I would like to do a mix of grouping, soloing and raiding. I'd like to experience the game at it's smallest hence soloing, and at it's biggest, the way I believe EQ was intended to be played, meaning raiding. I'd like to be all around suited for anything. Capable of switching gear for any situation. I like the hybrid idea and while I know Rangers aren't tanky, they can be enjoyable just to explore the world and since I'm new, I'd like to play a class that is well suited for any situation.

[Yoite]

being over weight is just something you have to deal with as a newbie. It wont take long before you get gear with +STR, buffs with +STR, and bags that reduce weight. As you gain lvls and get this stuff you will take less and less trips to town or nearest vendor to sell. But as a newbie you either gotta sell a lot or destroy stuff. Destroy that copper!

[ShadowKing]

It just sucks being on the verge of wanting to destroy a character that I've already grown so attached to. When do the weight reduction bags come in to play, when do I get them and what are they called? This overweight thing has really got me bummed out.

[RDawg816]

Around level 12 you can farm Shralok Packs. They are 25% WR and hold giant. Aside from that, there is a 75% WR momento lockbox in SolA and some in Guk.....you can buy 10% WR backpacks from Tailors. Farm the HQ bear pelts and I can make them for you. If you're nearby, I can give you a str buff that will give you an extra 66str for over an hour....

[ShadowKing]

It amazes me how much I don't know about this game or at least forgotten about it. There are so many nuances that have been lost on me. Is 80 str too low? Should I start over because I'm not far enough that I wouldn't mind starting over.

[ShadowKing]

I forgot that a good strategy (I was a newb with my points) is putting all your points in to one stat but I put most of mine in sta which looking back I should have put them all in str if I knew was going to have this small but significant quandry.

[Pyrion]

80 isn't too bad. But you should know that there is very little demand in normal groups for rangers, that might be a problem when you are looking for groups. So if you like grouping you need to be proactive about it.

If you consider to reroll anyways, keep that in mind. I don't say you should, its up to you.

[Cheps]

Putting everything in sta is a good long term choice, str will be far easier to max than sta. And you even get str buffs later.

[blondeattk]

dont panic mr manwaring!

i put most my stats in dex for my ranger. dont think you need panic about 80 str.

However ranger is a class thats tuff to play as a nuub.....its a class that most folk play on p99 as a twink, because this class soaks up decent gear just to stay on par with other more potent classes. Rangers are very nostalgic, but they are poorly designed in classic eq and sub par from power pov. They can be fun and def up there for role playing.

[SamwiseRed]

play on red, we love rangers

[Jimjam]

I've been mainly focusing on AC for my ranger, pretty much all the items he wears he got himself. By level 40 I'm often over 200 str (all from incidental +str on items or on buffs). I don't remember where i put my starting stats, but lets assume i put it all in str; i'd still be at 180 str if I had put those starting points elsewhere.


Basically by mid levels you won't be having problems with low str weighting you down.

In the mean time try stick to low weight food (don't fill your inventory with stacks of that heavy foraged stuff) and take a good look at your items and consider if the weight is worth whatever advantages you get. Often it is worth swapping down a size in armour if you can. Also, some reinforced armour gives the same AC as banded, but weights significantly less. Finally, if you want a set of ~leather stat armour that weighs little (which should be plenty at low levels) consider murdering a bunch of frogloks in guk for Mesh.

If you have a little money, Targishan's bone mask is a 12AC 0.0 weight face and Azure Sleeves are similar stats for arms. Much Ivy Etched armour has a decent amount of pieces with +Str.

In your situation, I suggest you ideally want to go with items that have more strength than weight and plenty of hp/ac (as much as possible).

[Yoite]

really shouldn't worry about the starter stat points. I have a necro with all points into sta (yea that was dumb) got him to 59 and he still plays just as well as any other necro. And my pally i put all my points into CHA and even went with CHA based gear so i can pacify and shit it worked out just fine. Once you get some lvls and items starter points matter less and less.

They are the most noticeable for lvl 1-20 id say, which is kinda the purpose of them i guess.

[Danth]

Hi, I'm fairly new to the game and was concerned about my character. I made a wood elf and it only has 80 strength and I'm always over weight. Should I re make with more strenght?

A Woof Elf Ranger comes with 70 strength as a baseline, with a maximum of 90 if you put all of your starting points into that stat. Twenty points of strength makes a big difference in how much you can carry and wear in the here and now. If you aren't giving up a lot of progress you'd probably appreciate the relief that higher innate strength will bring you. In the very long term, maxing stamina at creation instead will net you a couple per cent more hit points at level 60. It's your call as to which you value more.

If you're higher than level 10 or so, 15 at most, I'd recommend against starting over. As a general rule levels are more useful than anything else.


Danth

[Elmarnieh]

Strength equipment is plentiful and cheap, you just have to deal with it at lower levels.

I'd suggest trying to always have a sow on from friendly druids to help with run speed, you might also want to not carry copper on you and perhaps silver (depending how strapped for cash you are) but remember focus on levels early on, cash is much more easily made at higher levels.

[Daywolf]

Hero bracers! wts :D But really, just save up for str equipment, it's pretty cheap. Farm CB belts and pads in off hours, sell those to players, rangers do really good farming CB, especially as you get the ranger into the late teens.

Don't use backpacks. Use smaller tailored bags, they hardly weigh a thing. Later farm weight reduction bags, like in south karana which are good bags.

Start drinking! Get that alcohol tolerance up! Drink one at a time, wait for the effects to wear off, then drink another. That will raise up AT nicely if you keep at it. Then when you want a cheap and easy str buff, you got it.

Other thing, you could use stat food. Make um.. dwarf chops, mammoth steaks, frost giant steaks, Beer braised bear/mammoth/gator. Those will all give you STR and baking is one of the easiest to raise to make those. Just grab wolf meat off one of the newbie vendors for cheap (often have 100's of them in gfay) and start getting skill off them. I keep stat food on all my chars, especially liking smoked wood elf on my drui :D

Yeah, STR is really no big deal, very-very easy to increase through gear and consumables. But yeah doesn't matter, I even put a bit of dex into my ranger on live. Here I dumped most of it into str, I wanted str like an ogre on my wood elf ranger hehe.

[Daywolf]

Oh and yeah, if you want to do a little of everything, including some raiding, than your stat choices were fine. I never plan to raid with my ranger here, I just wanted a mid-lvl ranger to hunt pelts, meat, certain other mob drops especially from named mobs, and make bows with him. My main on live was the ranger, and I'm still burnt out on serious rangering. However, if this server were headed to PoP, I definitely would, but it's not and that's fine by me. Ranger is a fun class though, salute to you if you reach cap.

[Troxx]

A Woof Elf Ranger comes with 70 strength as a baseline, with a maximum of 90 if you put all of your starting points into that stat. Twenty points of strength makes a big difference in how much you can carry and wear in the here and now. If you aren't giving up a lot of progress you'd probably appreciate the relief that higher innate strength will bring you. In the very long term, maxing stamina at creation instead will net you a couple per cent more hit points at level 60. It's your call as to which you value more.

Danth


Agreed.

While the high end raiding neckbeards will always say that dumping everything into stamina is ideal, this ignores that higher strength at the start of the game really does make life easier - especially if you're a new player.

Yes, capping strength is easier than most stats at the high end.

What the neckbeards fail to realize is that not everyone is a neckbeard and not everyone will be bashing their head against the wall that is raiding on p99. Even then, the difference between 15-20 points into str vs 15-20 points in to stamina doesn't make a hill of beans difference at the high end.

Velious was conquered with Kunark gear, and velious gear makes velious that much easier. As a melee character you could dump all your starting stats into wisdom or intelligence and still be barely worse than having dumped all your starting stats into something more relevant.

On all my characters, I dump my stats into what makes being a low to mid level character less painful, and I've never regretted that decision.

[Vertiggo]

If you just want to wander around I'd suggest resolving a bard

[ShadowKing]

As a beginning player, I want insider information on how to play p99 from creation to level 10 i.e. what's the standard route I should take every time when creating a bard, monk, wizard etc... Anything up to that point I could pick up on my own. I want to create confidently and eliminate the potential worry that I "messed up at creation". I firmly believe that any small mistake at the beginning is going to be a big mistake at the end but I know these can be resolved with in game items but my 80 strength feels so weak right now.

I play rangers 'cuz they're fun and I enjoy role playing occasionally and being the comedian in the group. I don't give a rats behind about what people think about'em.

[ShadowKing]

If you just want to wander around I'd suggest resolving a bard

I love bard. Have one qued up actually. Bard was one of my mains in 2001. I loved it and was amazed by the class. They can literally cast, dot, melee dps, tank/off-tank. Too much in my opinion. They can wear plate for crying out loud. I'm saving bard to be the last class I play once I learn everything I need to know. I want to play less common classes right now to fill any need we may have and people be like "Hey! There's a paladin!". Ranger should get that love but hey, whatev's. Still love the game :)

Something I'm trying to re-accustom myself to is race and class balance. Coming in to it, I actually forgot that race and class actually play a huge difference. Remembering all these little things; it's coming back to me...

[Daywolf]

how to play p99 from creation to level 10 i.e. what's the standard route I should take every time when creating a bard, monk, wizard etc... Anything up to that point I could pick up on my own.
This is an open-world mmo, there is no one single way to do things. Such as what may be good for a wood elf ranger may not be as good for an ogre shammy.

In most cases though, it's wherever there is a group to join. This is one reason why places like gfay are popular, it's the population. But there are different routs depending on what you want to accomplish, such as gear drops, faction, xp, coin, or a mix of those. And that can be of varying importance depending on the player, the class and their play style.

But where you are at in gfay, it's safe to say easy leveling in groups is the norm.

[ShadowKing]

Funny that a little thing like weight can bite you in the butt later or even early for that fact. I look forward to soon farming Shralok packs and doing other things to mitigate my weight quandry. Thank you for that.

[shooteneq1]

i wouldnt worry about it personally. just destroy stuff at earlier levels. everything junk wise you get at low levels is going to sell for silvers at the vender anyway, your time would be better spent getting levels than running back and forth to town. just keep items that sell to other players or lvl in spots where there is a vender close by and just buy and resell cheap items to get rid of your copper and silver without destroying it. starting off as a ranger will be tough but not impossible. once you get panic animal your life will become much easier. or if you can find a duo partner to hate kite with. back in the day this is how i leveled to 60....panic animal solo or snare/flame lick hate kiting with a melee partner.

[Raev]

As stated the best long term stat allocation for a ranger is +20 STA. You'll easily cap strength at higher levels; stamina is much harder to come by. Strength is not even really a mid-level concern.

What are you even carrying that takes up so much weight? Delete the copper and silver. Make a few more trips to the bank if you wanna sell those rusty weapons. If you are really concerned about strength, go to the wiki, select equipment -> equipment by class -> ranger equipment and click on each slot, then sort by strength. Hero bracers for example are +10 strength and cost 250p.

[Daywolf]

Hero bracers for example are +10 strength and cost 250p.250?! hehehe more like 300-350 unless you get really lucky with someone just trying to clear out bank slots - and didn't miss the deal 5 minutes earlier. Can take a bit of work to get them, and not too abundant at EC, though sometimes. Expect 250-350. More than that is clearly over reaching. Good bang for the plats though.

[ShadowKing]

What are you even carrying that takes up so much weight? .

I loaded up on backpacks

[Xaanka]

real answer: don't worry about your gear leveling up. get some jewelcrafted hp/ac rings, some banded armor, and the best weapon you can get. thats all you need to get level 60. there's a decent bow that drops in south karana that you can get pretty easily if you don't want to do fletching. make your first long term goals to save up for a woodsman's staff and a haste item (poor man's haste = hangman's noose or plane of sky belt)
you'll get gear upgrades as you go just playing the game. it's a bit slow at first, but once you get around level 40-60 you'll find a lot more opportunities to get loot with stats on it. as a ranger there is minimal competition from other players for a lot of the items you need.

[Daywolf]

er your sig is breaking the page, Xaan.

Backpacks? You only need like one or two. Or better a bunch of small bags. Backpacks are what 2.0 each? They're nasty :P
I just use them when I sell a bag of stuff. Then they try to hand back the empty backpack and I'm like "noooooooooo!!! :( keep it". And they say "wow thanks" and I walk aways like :rolleyes::D

[RDawg816]

I believe backpacks weigh 3.0
Medicine bags are sold at vendors for like 1.4 plat and are 0.4 weight or something.

[Daywolf]

I believe backpacks weigh 3.0
Medicine bags are sold at vendors for like 1.4 plat and are 0.4 weight or something.
Yeah probably 3.0 Just so bad. And if you have a lot of them you can never fill them up. I just run with two empty 8 slot reduction bags on my ranger, then another for food and gear, hardly ever run out of room unless I'm pelt hunting. And most of those I just turn into pads and stack with the mini tailor kit. Fletching kit I just sell back when I'm finished with it. Then a hasty reduction quiver. Good to go, out in the wild all day.

[ShadowKing]

Guys...Honestly...Is Crushbone the best place to level 1-15?

[RDawg816]

Not really, no. :D

[Daywolf]

7-14 yeah it's nice, but in groups mostly. At peak time there are usually 25 players in there. TR camp is the best, but less active camp lately. Thats like 14-19. I can level up there 7-20 and walk out with over 1kpp pretty easily.

Well there is upper guk, but sort of a pain to get into with an elf ranger. Great spot if you are out there with a lowbie ogre or troll. CB is next to gfay, has that really going for it, +faction. Some good items there, but less for a ranger other than the shiny shield.

[RDawg816]

Crushbone is fun for nostalgia, but it gets old. There are a lot of trains, mainly from corpse runs and/or adds. People always want to go back to town, and it's rarely organized.

Sure, you can make money selling belts/pads, but meh.

Personally, if I were you, I'd go to Blackburrow area and kill gnolls for fangs. Once you're high enough (which wouldn't take long) I'd head to West Karana to kill bandits. The sashes are excellent exp and you get a bronze weapon for every turn in. Filling your bags with sashes usually results in 60% or more and hundreds of plat per trip to Qeynos.

Being a ranger, you could also track random animals if you wanted to farm pelts at the same time.

[Daywolf]

There is more in CB to sell than just belts and pads. But for a ranger that comes really easy by mid teens with belts.

[ShadowKing]

Well there is upper guk, but sort of a pain to get into with an elf ranger

Not bad if you're a human though right? I'd like to send my human to Gfay but I'm just now learning the basics of the game again. :\

[Daywolf]

Not bad if you're a human though right? I'd like to send my human to Gfay but I'm just now learning the basics of the game again. :\
No different, you'd still need ports and no city near by.

[ShadowKing]

No different, you'd still need ports and no city near by.

O, I thought it was because faction reasons.

[RDawg816]

EFP>NRo>Oasis>SRo>Innothule
WFP>EC>Beg for a SoW>NRo....

I've had much longer CR's. :)

[RDawg816]

Some people like to save their faction so it's easier to travel in Guk...but I say who cares?!

[Xaanka]

Guys...Honestly...Is Crushbone the best place to level 1-15?

commons area is probably the "best" place for a new player to level until the orc camps peter off (forgot what level that happens) because you can go to the tunnel (server trade hub) and beg players for high level buffs.

crushbone is kinda fun too, you gotta do it at least once for nostalgia. p sure crushbone messes with some neriak factions tho, and the main neriak faction is really easy to get up, so you may wanna skip cb if you plan on going there in the future.

[Beinen]

I didn't read all the posts. did you ever stay where you threw your starting stats anyways?