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Speedi
02-24-2016, 04:56 PM
Moving the contents of this thread http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2200808#post2200808 to here


This ability pops up when its not ready.

I think I have read the SK ability Harm Touch has the same problem. Not sure if there is a thread on this already. Figured I would make a post.



it does, it also resets on death which i dont remember it doing



this has been a bug since 2010 when I created my paladin

welcome to the server hehe



fwiw, Harm Touch is in fact bugged too in this exact way. Easier to keep track of at 55, since Unholy Aura's button displays correctly.

Just cause its been broke for 6 years does not mean its acceptable, it should be fixed. The dev's are only human. They forget just like other people do. If you want something fixed keep bumping the thread till it is fixed. Overtime others will see the thread, and post their comments. Then when a dev has some free time, and there is nothing more important to fix, they will fix something like this.

fwiw, Harm Touch is in fact bugged too in this exact way. Easier to keep track of at 55, since Unholy Aura's button displays correctly.

then bump the many year old bug posts for this

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191056&highlight=hands

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150080&highlight=hands

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108692&highlight=hands

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32445&highlight=hands



Thanks for the links Erati. I can see you have been after them about this for a while. Haynar says this in 2011 ...

Part of the issues with making LoH and HT refresh on death, is the refresh time of the button had to be reduced. It uses the spells file value for this. If you zone, it will update the button. But short of zoning, you can mash it, to see how much time is left and try to keep track of it. That is about the best we can do, unless we can figure out a way to refresh the ability update timer somehow else. Which there may not be a way.

H

I am not sure what Haynar is trying to do with the refresh on death. That's not what I am referring to. I am referring to this ...

Example:

I use Lay Hands, the button don't stay greyed out till its ready again. It should stay greyed out till its back up.

We already have abilities that do the same thing in game that work fine. Forage for one, it will grey out and pop back up when its ready. Even if you zone it will stay greyed out till its ready. So why cant you implement the same code you use for Forage but increase the time to fit the Lay Hands ability.

I am going to keep this thread bumped till this has been fixed!

Thanks in advance for your time Dev's! We all appreciate it



make a new bug post in bug forums and ill bump it forever <3

Erati
02-24-2016, 05:05 PM
This bug causes paladin and paladin groupmate deaths daily when the Paly thinks he will b a hero having Lay Hands avail- then when its needed, you click and are a zero bc it wasnt ready :(

but the icon appeared ready!!! The paladin exclaimed

Kevynne
02-24-2016, 11:31 PM
This bug causes paladin and paladin groupmate deaths daily when the Paly thinks he will b a hero having Lay Hands avail- then when its needed, you click and are a zero bc it wasnt ready :(

but the icon appeared ready!!! The paladin exclaimed

Yoite
02-25-2016, 01:09 AM
this bug is the bane of my pally existence every freaking day

Speedi
02-25-2016, 06:24 AM
Good morning bump! Needs fixed please!

Danth
02-25-2016, 11:18 AM
Once upon a time we had a timer that indicated how long Lay Hands or Harm Touch had before refreshing--because the button didn't work. That seemed fair to me. The admins removed the timer but never fixed the button. If they lack the know-how to fix it then it'd be equitable to give that timer back.

Danth

Speedi
02-25-2016, 12:07 PM
Once upon a time we had a timer that indicated how long Lay Hands or Harm Touch had before refreshing--because the button didn't work. That seemed fair to me. The admins removed the timer but never fixed the button. If they lack the know-how to fix it then it'd be equitable to give that timer back.

Danth

I would like to be more realistic. The dev's went through all that trouble to take timers out the game to make a more classic EQ experience. They are not going to put timers back in for some type of band aid for the Lay Hands ability. This is not a difficult thing to fix. I made a good suggestion above when I brought up using code from other abilities that's already in game working properly. Let's try and keep this practical please. I really want to see this get fixed!

valaka
02-25-2016, 12:21 PM
Please fix, this is very annoying

Kevynne
02-26-2016, 02:21 AM
Please fix, this is very annoying

just had my group on red wipe because i thought LH was up

Speedi
02-26-2016, 03:39 PM
Good afternoon bump! Let's get this fixed please! :)

Speedi
02-27-2016, 05:18 AM
Good morning bump! Let's get this fixed please! :)

Kevynne
02-28-2016, 07:18 AM
Please fix, this is very annoying

aaand another full wipe because LH trolling me :(
if you use LH then zone, however, the button stays greyed out for a bit, but still not the full time.

Speedi
02-29-2016, 04:32 PM
Good evening bump! Let's get this fixed friends!

Speedi
03-01-2016, 07:28 AM
Good morning bump!

Kevynne
03-01-2016, 09:50 AM
aaand another full wipe because LH trolling me :(
if you use LH then zone, however, the button stays greyed out for a bit, but still not the full time.

and again v_V gettin real tired of yr shit game

Speedi
03-02-2016, 10:00 AM
^

Kevynne
03-03-2016, 04:11 AM
and again v_V gettin real tired of yr shit game

AND AGAIN FFS

Speedi
03-04-2016, 04:37 PM
^

Atmas
03-04-2016, 06:48 PM
Can we also tie in that there was supposed to be an increase to the amount LoH does at higher levels with the addition of Velious?

Speedi
03-06-2016, 01:03 PM
^

Speedi
03-09-2016, 03:53 AM
Good morning bump!

Tura
03-09-2016, 11:24 AM
I can also confirm this happens on my Paladin (alot!)

Kevynne
03-09-2016, 12:04 PM
Can we also tie in that there was supposed to be an increase to the amount LoH does at higher levels with the addition of Velious?

Speedi
03-10-2016, 11:53 AM
To the top!

Speedi
03-11-2016, 10:54 AM
Lets get this fixed!

Speedi
03-12-2016, 07:52 AM
Good morning bump!

Chaboo_Cleric
03-12-2016, 01:51 PM
Let's pretend PALIDANS MATTER

Speedi
03-13-2016, 09:46 AM
^

Gojetax
03-13-2016, 03:38 PM
Yeah.... 6-7k hp Warriors... 1900 LoH at level 60.... 72 minute refresh... SO USEFUL!

Should have been 2 LoH fixes already at this point in classic.

Crypodosktorr
03-14-2016, 06:38 AM
Yeah.... 6-7k hp Warriors... 1900 LoH at level 60.... 72 minute refresh... SO USEFUL!

Should have been 2 LoH fixes already at this point in classic.

When less than 1% of the population plays Pals.... The staff just doesn't care much.

Speedi
03-14-2016, 01:03 PM
When less than 1% of the population plays Pals.... The staff just doesn't care much.

Maybe 1% a year ago. I have noticed more paly's lately. Hell even I made one

Fix this please!!

Speedi
03-15-2016, 07:16 AM
^

Speedi
03-16-2016, 11:31 AM
^

Kevynne
03-17-2016, 03:38 AM
Maybe 1% a year ago. I have noticed more paly's lately. Hell even I made one

Fix this please!!

things everyone has(at some point on red, maybe on blue)
SK twink PK alt, twink Pally alt to level/pk with, Druid alt.

OP who said 1% plays pallies is half retarded.

Speedi
03-17-2016, 03:56 AM
When less than 1% of the population plays Pals.... The staff just doesn't care much.

I didn't say that, this idiot did.

I was just replying to him

Fix lay hands bug please!

Kevynne
03-18-2016, 07:40 PM
I didn't say that, this idiot did.

I was just replying to him

Fix lay hands bug please!

that's what i said lol

Speedi
03-19-2016, 08:48 PM
^

Speedi
03-20-2016, 08:53 PM
^

Speedi
03-22-2016, 09:29 AM
^

Speedi
03-23-2016, 11:51 AM
Good morning bump!

Gojetax
03-23-2016, 05:54 PM
Extra bump cause I care....

That and I logged on phinny server and noticed my level 12 paladin LoH is healing for more than my level 60 paladin on p99....

Speedi
03-26-2016, 06:51 AM
Good morning bump!

Innovative
03-27-2016, 01:50 AM
pls fix classic, just wiped my group to loh bug

Speedi
03-29-2016, 11:46 AM
^

Atmas
04-02-2016, 08:46 PM
Also still doing pre-velious healing amounts is pretty defeating of the purpose of the ability.

Speedi
04-07-2016, 11:01 AM
To the top!

Speedi
04-10-2016, 10:56 PM
Help!

Speedi
05-01-2016, 04:01 PM
Up!

Speedi
07-06-2016, 10:03 PM
up from page 10!

fash
07-06-2016, 10:27 PM
Innocents are dying due to this bug.

Speedi
07-24-2016, 02:40 AM
to the top!

pathius41
08-06-2016, 11:41 PM
Lets not forget this fix. Pally have a hard enough time with out this bug killing them.

Speedi
08-12-2016, 09:49 PM
Paly's need love to

Speedi
10-13-2016, 01:48 PM
Some people told me that I was wasting my time when I started this thread. You guys going to prove them right? Come on! Help!

/bump

Speedi
04-12-2017, 03:42 PM
Some people told me that I was wasting my time when I started this thread. You guys going to prove them right? Come on! Help!

/bump

Erati
12-14-2017, 05:26 PM
ze bump heard round the world

Tura
12-14-2017, 05:34 PM
hopeless

Belaguez
01-23-2018, 04:07 AM
Bump for 2018!!

Tura
01-23-2018, 11:06 AM
The powers that be don't read these =p

Can stop bumping now.

Dolalin
05-05-2019, 03:27 PM
Still broken in 2019.

bigjeff100
05-06-2019, 10:33 AM
+1 to fixing this!!!

Nirgon
05-06-2019, 10:51 AM
Wipe because no LOH lol

Get a soul fire ya cripple

People complaining about class that can fairly easily get 5 instant CH charges, spammable threat

Haynar
05-06-2019, 10:57 AM
I might be able to fix this now. Learned how to reset abilities buttons correctly last week. Got to see if it works with Titanium client. Hopefully it will.

H

Belaguez
05-15-2019, 04:15 PM
Getting peoples hopes up there Haynar :)

Bardp1999
05-16-2019, 01:41 AM
I might be able to fix this now. Learned how to reset abilities buttons correctly last week. Got to see if it works with Titanium client. Hopefully it will.

H

https://i.imgur.com/5jSdr7i.gif

Nirgon
05-16-2019, 10:03 AM
I might be able to fix this now. Learned how to reset abilities buttons correctly last week. Got to see if it works with Titanium client. Hopefully it will.

H

Best guy.

Cobham
04-14-2020, 08:07 PM
I might be able to fix this now. Learned how to reset abilities buttons correctly last week. Got to see if it works with Titanium client. Hopefully it will.

H

Any luck? Still bugged for my pally.

Harbogast
10-04-2020, 10:45 PM
Just made a paladin. LoH reset timer is not working properly.

jeLLo
08-21-2024, 12:11 PM
Made a fresh paladin and have already racked up a bunch of deaths thinking I had LoH available, when I didn't. Seeing how old this thread is, is there any chance of this being fixed?

MilanderTruewield
02-13-2025, 12:13 AM
Haynar trolled us for 5 yrs. :(