Starting Iksar SK

[theworstguy]

Hey guys, I'm thinking of rolling an Iksar SK on this server, what should I put my starting stats into?

[shokar]

Stamina Or Int.

Case for stamina: Most resist gear has very little on it, and you will not max this stat out ever in pvp gear.

Case for int: Bigger Manapool is always strong for knights in pvp.

[Beastagoog]

Reroll troll...

Same regen. Get slam

More melee friendly

[Baler]

I play a Iksar SK on red. Troll is 120% null on stats and gear if you Raid end game Velious. Dead Fucking Serious. Quote me on this.
If you are a serious player. iksar is the optimal Velious SK race. hands down. no joke, no troll, no leg pulling,,,

[xaxis]

^-- this. Only classes that should be Iksar are monk, necro. MAYBE sham if you want a little added challenge. If you're deadset on Iksar SK though i say stam. Way easier to bump str

[HippoNipple]

I play a Iksar SK on red. Troll is 120% null on stats and gear if you Raid end game Velious. Dead Fucking Serious. Quote me on this.
If you are a serious player. iksar is the optimal Velious SK race. hands down. no joke, no troll, no leg pulling,,,

You will have an opportunity to trade out stat gear for hp or resist gear. I know end game velious tends to have all stats but there are still exceptions. Also you get slam. Are you saying Iksar just because of AC bonus?

[easy_lee]

Go troll.

Slam is a big fucking deal.
Higher base stats are a big deal when you're wearing resist gear.
Accept no substitutes.
If you're just going to raid with empire, it doesn't matter what race you play since you're basically blue at that point.

[Baler]

I understand troll shaman on blue, slam has saved lives.
Bases stats dont fucking matter on velious end game,
Empire is a zerg guild fuck them.

Ac bonus is just a plus,. combine with regen bonus. On red I'll never see a better option. SK's are trash mob tanks. not raid tanks.

[theworstguy]

Thanks, guys. Pretty deadset on Iksar for the SK, was my first build when RoK came out, would like to actually get past level 20 this time around.
Which would be better down the road between Int and Sta?

[Baler]

Also I just want to add that Other Ikar will love you. Iksar stick together
Msg any iksar player and tell them about yourself.
Especially Necro's Make iksar necro friends...

[iruinedyourday]

fuck yea another sick 1h slash animation for the server.

[Baler]

fuck yea another sick 1h slash animation for the server.

fuck off troll spam. leave ur spam for RnF (YOU KNOW ME)
Iksar SK for life or death.
*HISS*

[iruinedyourday]

using swears in server chat

http://i.imgur.com/waDRVAz.jpg

[easy_lee]

Int vs Sta, look at it this way. How often is the amount of Int you have the deciding factor in whether you live or die. What about Sta? Does the fact that you'll be eating wizard nukes and backstabs every now and then affect that? Answer that question for yourself.

You aren't going to max either Sta or Int if you're wearing strength and resist gear like you should, so don't worry about that blue optimization bullshit here. Knowledge > Strategy > Skill > Resists > Race > stats.

[Baler]

Easy Lee I understand but when you'rr level 60 with Best in slot. it does't matter the stats your inital race picked. That regen and robe with +20 stats will matter though.

Vs races cant equip that op shit.
(on blue who fucking cares)

[barrettdc1]

Thanks, guys. Pretty deadset on Iksar for the SK, was my first build when RoK came out, would like to actually get past level 20 this time around.
Which would be better down the road between Int and Sta?

Early levels I'd proably say stam, since you're going to be grouping you won't really need a lot of mana. Down the road there are buffs and gear that'll max out your int.

[Baler]

Early levels I'd proably say stam, since you're going to be grouping you won't really need a lot of mana. Down the road there are buffs and gear that'll max out your int.

As much as I love to hate this guy was a point.. Listen newbs which google this shit.
On red if you sour are seriourly legit,. you'll hey get gear faster then blue hands down.
CONSIDER RED
http://i.imgur.com/2zaII3A.gif
#what

[HippoNipple]

Easy Lee I understand but when you'rr level 60 with Best in slot. it does't matter the stats your inital race picked. That regen and robe with +20 stats will matter though.

Vs races cant equip that op shit.
(on blue who fucking cares)

What robe are you talking about?

[Baler]

What robe are you talking about?

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/fat-girl-bathrobe-20630997.jpg

[barrettdc1]

As much as I love to hate this guy was a point.. Listen newbs which google this shit.
On red if you sour are seriourly legit,. you'll hey get gear faster then blue hands down.
CONSIDER RED
http://i.imgur.com/2zaII3A.gif
#what

I have an easier time reading IRYD posts than what you just posted.

[iruinedyourday]

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[Baler]

I have an easier time reading IRYD posts than what you just posted.

Truth be told you have me there,.. but the robe from veeshans i straight fuckin legit!

[Baler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFsvESLXqCE
I fucking lull's so hard'ed

Who did this????

[iruinedyourday]

I fucking lull's so hard'ed

Who did this????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-AH2N_nu2U

[cronik]

Don't plan for fucking level 60 and full velious gear. That's stupid. The amount of time you'll be playing after finally having ALL the gear is infinitesimal compared to the journey to get there.

You're playing on a red server so I don't know why you're asking "hps or mana guys?"

Or whatever plan for lvl 60 and full velious. You'll be totally sorta better in 6mos+. Server gonna be swingin then!

[Damn]

Stamina Or Int.

Case for stamina: Most resist gear has very little on it, and you will not max this stat out ever in pvp gear.

Case for int: Bigger Manapool is always strong for knights in pvp.

Miss you blue

[EatitNerd]

You guys are insane, must have been a long time since you all had or seen velious raid gear. Play what you want mate, empire sks get decked very quick (shit rots all the time). Multiple sks now with nearly 200+ to every resist and max str/sta via self buffs. If you don't ever plan to raid, and you want to min max, troll prolly your best bet.

[beta]

I have a necromancer, SK, and shaman.. All of them Iksar master race

[Salaryman]

str stam agi all go up easily, dex for procs(epic proc is top tier) is hardest to raise next to int but int is the most important because spells matter more then anything.
You guys are insane, must have been a long time since you all had or seen velious raid gear. Play what you want mate, empire sks get decked very quick (shit rots all the time). Multiple sks now with nearly 200+ to every resist and max str/sta via self buffs. If you don't ever plan to raid, and you want to min max, troll prolly your best bet.

THats bullshit im in Empire none of that is true, no SK has over 200 all resist, or max str sta self-buffed. Also the Sks get the least among of gear because they are the least usefull. (Sk only gear isnt top tier)
For a class that excels at solo pvp its absolutely retarded to pick a big race(troll/ogre) to just get stuck in small dungeons.

EVEN if you dont mix max and are gonna be a lv 30 with fine steel short sword, INT is the best stat u can get.
IDk what im talking about though im a paladin.

[EatitNerd]

Aren't you banned? Weta has those stats, not hard with avatar/flowers really. Sks that are willing to play something needed (Weta plays sham on every raid) get decked quick.

Also lol at the small dungeons comment, you're like the only fuck that cares about solb, if you stayed in kunark/velious it doesn't play any role, you ain't getting fat stuck. You just suck

[easy_lee]

Large size for ogres / trolls is not a problem because you can (and should) be carrying ant and wolf pots for when you need them. And you shouldn't be playing a shadow knight at all until you can afford a good weapon, some resist gear, and a fungi, anyway.

[Xaanka]

Reroll troll...

Same regen. Get slam

More melee friendly

Troll has:

[-] Negative fire resist (resists are your most important stats)
[-] No AC bonus (best racial, higher AC cap than any other SK, stacks on top of avoidance and mitigation AC)
[-] Worse Stats (any race caps STR/STA in velious gear, troll has worse itemization options and a harder time capping dex/int/agi)
[+] Slam

Best kunark SK, mid-tier Velious SK. But race doesn't really matter that much anyways.

[bubur]

and you shouldn't be playing a shadow knight at all until you can afford a good weapon, some resist gear, and a fungi, anyway.

naw

[EatitNerd]

Fire resist = the easiest resist to obtain, by far

[Xaanka]

naw

agreed, I rolled an Iksar SK in season 1. at level 40 it had a mith 2h, CoS, that dread-scale quest armor, and a couple 5/55 rings. got a bunch of kills, didn't die a single time, and it could stand its ground against oggok cleaver mistmoore twinks. a better weapon would have been nice but all you really need is a CoS.

[Xaanka]

Fire resist = the easiest resist to obtain, by far

Yeah but that's not the only disadvantage to troll. Less AC (keep in mind the way in which iksar AC stacks with avoidance/mitigation AC, those AC points are much more valuable than the points from agi or gear) and the worst starting stats of any SK race too. Only advantage you get over Iksar is Slam, which one could legitimately argue is worth it.

The only reason you never see Iksar SK's is that they were shit in kunark due to no plate armor. In velious it's a different story, but most SK players rolled in Kunark when Iksar still sucked.

[maerilith]

I like how everyone rolls assuming bis or that more than planar rots and resist jewelry matter.

basically it's level, resists and pumice in that order.

[Xaanka]

ya race is literally the most insignificant factor in EQ, only time race legitimately matters is for gnome wall-hacks and gnomes can't be SK's anyways.

e: halfling hide/sneak useful for a few classes too, can skip some faction grinds

[EatitNerd]

Because bis items are easy to get here.. duh, and AC is broken here sorry to break it to ya anime boy

[iruinedyourday]

Troll has:

[-] Negative fire resist (resists are your most important stats)
[-] No AC bonus (best racial, higher AC cap than any other SK, stacks on top of avoidance and mitigation AC)
[-] Worse Stats (any race caps STR/STA in velious gear, troll has worse itemization options and a harder time capping dex/int/agi)
[+] Slam

Best kunark SK, mid-tier Velious SK. But race doesn't really matter that much anyways.

Fire is also arguably the most important stat too when it comes to resists, as the majority of spells that youll get hit with are fire on red.

[iruinedyourday]

Fire resist = the easiest resist to obtain, by far

youre a fuckn moran if you think fire resistn isnt clutch to survival in pvp.. whatever innate fire you can get, i would suggest you take advantage of it.

Slam is very damn important tho pals.

wouldnt stop me from rolling a human SK though.

[krazyGlue]

troll is by far the best race for a sk. unless you can obtain an epic early on

[EatitNerd]

troll is by far the best race for a sk. unless you can obtain an epic early on

[iruinedyourday]

oh yea there you go, epic gives you bash.

fuck troll

human all the fucking way

[Pope Hat]

How is slam good in PvP? Doesn't it stay at lvl 1 skill and therefore miss all the time?

[EatitNerd]

Are you serious?

[maerilith]

I have fought elf vs troll. can confirm slam while nice, isn't that badass.

troll sk slam does skill up and use bash though. so it does hit.

[EatitNerd]

Slam is completely badass when used right. Don't be dumb, that's like saying warrior kick stun is just "alright"

[maerilith]

Slam is completely badass when used right. Don't be dumb, that's like saying warrior kick stun is just "alright"

It's kinda cool. gr8 for interrupting gate. or ch

[iruinedyourday]

It's kinda cool. gr8 for interrupting gate. or ch

yep

it misses but when it doesn't you need to change your underpants.

Heh have to add this.. I can still see as clear as day my best pal who played a SK in 1999... we would alternate who got to play cus we only had 1 computer... he was pvping this wizard.. the wizard tried to gate.. and me over my friends shoulder I watch as my he leaned into his desk chair and with intense focuse he pressed the bash butto and BAM! It hit and the gate was interrupted. He killed that wizard. It was glorious

It feels THAT good when you land a bash on a gate.. you remember it as clear as day 17 years later.

[EatitNerd]

I think you're all under the impression that slam stays at (1) which it does not for large races that can use it without epic, i.e. troll/ogre. Sure slam misses here and there but everything does. I can't believe I'm trying to explain the importance to people that don't pvp or worship who went like 3 kills and 100+ deaths or something

[maerilith]

No, your 're explaining it. but thx for helpin the noob to roll troll

[Salaryman]

Aren't you banned? Weta has those stats, not hard with avatar/flowers really. Sks that are willing to play something needed (Weta plays sham on every raid) get decked quick.

Also lol at the small dungeons comment, you're like the only fuck that cares about solb, if you stayed in kunark/velious it doesn't play any role, you ain't getting fat stuck. You just suck

flowers get dispelled, especialy with golem wands. BIS loot is in solB, and ive never been banned from anything my life.

[Colgate]

troll is the best shadow knight race regardless of gear level

[Kevynne]

I suggest Dark Elf or Erudite for hardest challenge

[Stalos_]

took 5 pages to really address the lack of 2hand bash/slam on anything but ogre troll.

Unless you're willing to rock a shield/quick about swapping it in, enjoy every person you attack gating in your humanoid face.


all that said, Troll wins this poll every 9 weeks its brought up.