View Full Version : Gone a LONG time - What's the state of EXP penalties?
Real-Salt
02-19-2016, 12:59 AM
IIRC class-based penalities were eradicated in Velious, but not on launch of expansion, on live servers.
What is the case here?
Googling showed me a couple people saying they should be gone, but nothing recent and the wiki still says they're there, so figured I'd go ahead and ask.
drktmplr12
02-19-2016, 12:26 PM
They are gone.
khanable
02-19-2016, 12:29 PM
LONG LIVE PALADINS
Daywolf
02-19-2016, 12:33 PM
It says it in the wiki, but maybe not in all places, not sure. Such as for the SK class page it says: Note: Class experience penalties are no longer in effect on P99 as of 9/21/15
If you find a page in error, well let someone know who edits the wiki, if you don't want to/cant fix it yourself.
arsenalpow
02-19-2016, 12:39 PM
Class based penalties should be gone (congrats hybrids) but the racial stuff should still be a thing (sorry iksars, trolls, and ogres)
eqravenprince
02-19-2016, 12:44 PM
Class bonuses still appear to be in though.
hammy01
02-19-2016, 12:56 PM
Does the "class base penalties removed" also apply to monks and intelligence casters, or only hybrids? There's not nothing in the language to indicate it wouldn't be across the board - but it's always talked about strictly in the context of hybrids, so curious.
xKoopa
02-19-2016, 01:15 PM
Does the "class base penalties removed" also apply to monks and intelligence casters, or only hybrids? There's not nothing in the language to indicate it wouldn't be across the board - but it's always talked about strictly in the context of hybrids, so curious.
Any class with xp penalty was removed
Racial penalties are still in, as well as racial bonuses
Im not 100% sure if class bonuses are still in (war/rog)
Daywolf
02-19-2016, 01:17 PM
Does the "class base penalties removed" also apply to monks and intelligence casters, or only hybrids? There's not nothing in the language to indicate it wouldn't be across the board - but it's always talked about strictly in the context of hybrids, so curious.
The penalties were for hybrids. In the case of monks, it's a race penalty (iskar) which still applies.
Warriors are not hybrids, but still have race penalties set to some of them.
Hybrids are mixed classes, such as SK is war/nec and were under the hybrid penalty across the board for the class, then including race penalties if applicable. With hybrid penalty removed, only race penalties remain, which is quite less than the hybrid penalty.
koros
02-19-2016, 01:37 PM
The penalties were for hybrids. In the case of monks, it's a race penalty (iskar) which still applies.
Warriors are not hybrids, but still have race penalties set to some of them.
Hybrids are mixed classes, such as SK is war/nec and were under the hybrid penalty across the board for the class, then including race penalties if applicable. With hybrid penalty removed, only race penalties remain, which is quite less than the hybrid penalty.
Monks had a 20% class penalty.
Whirled
02-19-2016, 01:51 PM
http://wiki.project1999.com/Game_Mechanics#How_Experience_Works
Daywolf
02-19-2016, 02:04 PM
Monks had a 20% class penalty.
Human Monk: No modifier
Iksar Monk: -20%
http://wiki.project1999.com/Monk#Experience_Statistics
The old (https://web.archive.org/web/20130901072608/http://wiki.project1999.com/Monk) modifiers were
Human Monk: -20%
Iksar Monk: -44%
It didn't differentiate between class and race it seems, just gave a racial modifier to both. And even in the reduction, iskar received a better reduction than from what it was in comparison to human. If it were just some hybrid class modifier, than iskar should have retained the extra 4% penalty thus being -24% currently.
iruinedyourday
02-19-2016, 02:47 PM
you get a -300% penalty if you play on blue instead of red.
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