Yes Fame, there is "skill" in Everquest

[Ragnaros]

Logged on to finish selling my items, and I had a visitor.
It was pretty embarrassing considering my warrior has no haste item and is pretty much stripped, using a css and seb dirk.
This is pretty much proof though that there is a difference between a horrible player, and someone who isn't terrible at the game, this game has some skill involved.
Excuse the quality, I am currently traveling and lifting with drakars brother in Australia so I had to record this with my laptop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGmTkdEkyYo&feature=youtu.be

[Drakaris]

Ur gonna be a bodybuilding legend in no time Ragnaros!

I'll come lift with you when I visit the states later this year!

[Kerwin]

yikes

[fan D]

reall cool video

[Whoa2323]

I like the part where he switches from 2hder to 1hders b/c that's obviously why he's losing the joust.

That was just downright embarrassing.

[fan D]

cool socks tho

[Efwan]

Dude, guttzs..

[Qtip]

I like the part where he switches from 2hder to 1hders b/c that's obviously why he's losing the joust.

That was just downright embarrassing.

[Smedy]

I like the part where he switches from 2hder to 1hders b/c that's obviously why he's losing the joust.

That was just downright embarrassing.

was just thinking this, is that a primal 2hander he has too? what a waste these warm bodies can't even attack back lol

[hatelore]

yikes~

[Redi]

You have 60ms. Unless guttz also has 60ms I'm still not convinced of a skill difference since jousting/hit box is latency > skill.

[Doctor Jeff]

I like when he goes from 50% to 30% while typing and then backpedals until he falls in the water.

[Kakadoody Boi]

Rag ur lame dawg

[Efwan]

You have 60ms. Unless guttz also has 60ms I'm still not convinced of a skill difference since jousting/hit box is latency > skill.

eh I run 120-130 daily and I can joust halfway decently. Guttzs missed almost every round (he landed 1 or 2 maybe? in 4 mins). Sure it plays a factor, but not that much

[Sirban]

Nooo one gives a fuck

[Smedy]

i jousted rag on my 5k ping, i for sure didn't win but i made an legitimate effort and swung back every now and again

i wonder if this guttz guy is legitimately playing or if its his cat walking around and randomly hitting keys on the keyboard, concerned pvp player needs to know, thanks

[dacBANe666]

shut up fagnaros. go away.

[LostCause]

You have 60ms. Unless guttz also has 60ms I'm still not convinced of a skill difference since jousting/hit box is latency > skill.

guttz is pretty bad just by watching that vid his movement is horrible.

[Smedy]

had to watch again, just awful

[Jazzy]

This guttz guy suicided into us in NFP last week - 3 wiz and a cleric

dont think the guy gives a hoot about dying

[Gzaz]

Hatelore bra miss ya kid get back online

[Beastagoog]

Hi Gzaz, how are you?

[Beastagoog]

Tottenham played my fav football team in the Euro League.

1-1 it ended up.

[Jazzy]

Fuck those yids

Support the gunners or gtfo imho tbh ffs

[Tassador]

Tottenham played my fav football team in the Euro League.

1-1 it ended up.

Italian league sucks. Lol Australia bad at everything tho so you used to it.

[garzahd`]

guttz is pretty bad just by watching that vid his movement is horrible.

did you ever loot your corpse in kael, retard ?

[hatelore]

Hatelore bra miss ya kid get back online

I wish I could, rl way too busy with work and college. Miss you too though man! One day though.

[Gzaz]

I wish I could, rl way too busy with work and college. Miss you too though man! One day though.

When you back on drop me a pm ill hook ya up

[Nirgon]

Guttz amazing at not acting like an autistic fire giant tho

[Guttzs]

About to watch the vidya. I will say this something was totally jacked up about your hit box i could not even fire arrows at you, i suspected screen dragging or something after talking to some people about how it was nearly impossible to hit you. I know i am not pro pvper by any means but i was not able to touch you till you zoned over and i disced you then you pulled cobalt BP and died. If i was that shitty as it says pras to you but something was way off.

[Guttzs]

Logged on to finish selling my items, and I had a visitor.
It was pretty embarrassing considering my warrior has no haste item and is pretty much stripped, using a css and seb dirk.
This is pretty much proof though that there is a difference between a horrible player, and someone who isn't terrible at the game, this game has some skill involved.
Excuse the quality, I am currently traveling and lifting with drakars brother in Australia so I had to record this with my laptop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGmTkdEkyYo&feature=youtu.be

Ok watched it at 2:42 while i was backing up (ended up in the water) i was trying to bow you to see wtf i cant hit this guy and the bow wouldnt even register to fire so i tried a little more before zoning over

Also thanks for thinking im sleepers geared that is very very nice of you! either way good fight i had fun but thought it was a little odd that you messaged me later asking " hey my little brother said he fought you and you couldnt hit him is that true?"

Good game happy hunting, you died.

[Guido]

shut up fagnaros. go away.

[Heebo]

tl;dr PvP happened and Guttzs won?

[quido]

Some people love killing scrubs and bragging about it.

[quido]

Guido get a different forum account - I'm tired of people confusing us.

[Mus3t11]

Ok watched it at 2:42 while i was backing up (ended up in the water) i was trying to bow you to see wtf i cant hit this guy and the bow wouldnt even register to fire so i tried a little more before zoning over

Also thanks for thinking im sleepers geared that is very very nice of you! either way good fight i had fun but thought it was a little odd that you messaged me later asking " hey my little brother said he fought you and you couldnt hit him is that true?"

Good game happy hunting, you died.

PvE dude gets rekt, blames hit boxes.

[SamwiseRed]

if the post looks cool and normal its jeremy
if it looks bald and retarded its andith

[dis_mornin]

Holy fuck Rag just get off these forums. We get it. You were griefed off a video game. It's fucking embarrassing.

[Guttzs]

PvE dude gets rekt, blames hit boxes.

[Nirgon]

What a twist

[SamwiseRed]

im gonna run around and ss corpses.

[kernal]

I thought empire was the top guild on this server lol they are pretty bad at this game

[Guido]

Holy fuck Rag just get off these forums. We get it. You were griefed off a video game. It's fucking embarrassing.

[Ragnaros]

Damn im a beast
dude couldn't even hit me once
anyone else wanna fight my naked warrior?

[Genedin]

Remember that time we 1v1 honor dueled.

[Ragnaros]

http://imgur.com/vOaXLCX.png
and genedin ill roast u kid

[Genedin]

Lol.

To the best of my recollection it was a 1v1 honor duel with multiple witnesses and I walked away with the YT.

Also this video is exactly why I can't play on this server anymore. Every right ends up with people running to the zoneline and plugging. So stupid for a "pvp" scenario.

[Heebo]

http://i.imgur.com/ONWuZzX.jpg

LOL

[Ragnaros]

Yea nice try screenshotting a PvE corpse involving a fight I had with casual scum, watch the video you landed 1 round in a 4 minute fight ( im pretty sure it was a riposte too) and then plugged.
My macroquest is real goog

[Heebo]

Was wondering why you'd cut the video before showing the plug. Did not expect it was because Guttzs zoned over and chopped your head off. Especially like the missing BP corroborating Guttzs' story.







LOL

[snufzaimoverlord]

I have 5328 hp.

[Ragnaros]

Was wondering why you'd cut the video before showing the plug. Did not expect it was because Guttzs zoned over and chopped your head off. Especially like the missing BP corroborating Guttzs' story.







LOL

Yeah that's real believeable, the dude literally didn't swing for 4 minutes.
He plugged and I got into a rumble with some Casual Scum and had to die to the Bard GM.
Sorry I can beat most people in your guild, even on a naked character.

[Guttzs]

Yeah that's real believeable, the dude literally didn't swing for 4 minutes.
He plugged and I got into a rumble with some Casual Scum and had to die to the Bard GM.
Sorry I can beat most people in your guild, even on a naked character.

why didnt youpost the rest of this video? how did you die? Seriously lying about something like this is beyond pathetic i am very very very sorry for whatever it is that you have going on or dont have going on in your life to sink down to this level.

[SamwiseRed]

why didnt youpost the rest of this video? how did you die? Seriously lying about something like this is beyond pathetic i am very very very sorry for whatever it is that you have going on or dont have going on in your life to sink down to this level.

are you claiming you killed him?

[Ragnaros]

I will personally pay you $1000 ( is that RMT?) if you can post any proof of killing me, I could probably go afk and stand still and you would figure out a way to not be able to kill me..seriously 1 hit in 4 minutes? Screenshotting a pve corpse in defense of a video proving you get demolished is hilarious. its really not that serious, it was just meant to be a fun thread. Sorry if you are offended, its just a game buddy.

[Guttzs]

I will personally pay you $1000 ( is that RMT?) if you can post any proof of killing me, I could probably go afk and stand still and you would figure out a way to not be able to kill me..seriously 1 hit in 4 minutes? Screenshotting a pve corpse in defense of a video proving you get demolished is hilarious. its really not that serious, it was just meant to be a fun thread. Sorry if you are offended, its just a game buddy.

Absolutely not offended i said i feel sorry for you, i dont care if i do poorly or die in pvp i enjoy the game you have some sort of problem good luck with it i hope you find help. There is only one truth if you want to lie thats all you man. happy hunting

[Smedy]

why didnt youpost the rest of this video? how did you die? Seriously lying about something like this is beyond pathetic i am very very very sorry for whatever it is that you have going on or dont have going on in your life to sink down to this level.

lol

ya video looked like u were winning dog, think u need better gear 8)

[SamwiseRed]

i heard guttz petitioned that crushbone orcs were screen dragging.

[vouss]

Some people love killing scrubs and bragging about it.

this is honestly the only reason I still play this game

[Tassador]

i heard guttz petitioned that crushbone orcs were screen dragging.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahagahahahahahahahahahahaha gagagahagahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahHagahahah ahahahahaha

This board needs to stop cause that was fucking hilarious!

[Fame]

lol I don't think there isn't skill in everquest. I think there is skill involved and it becomes very apparent in situations like the one you posted about. I used the phrase to get clicks to increase the odds of getting votes in my poll. Sometimes you gotta play above the game :o

[fan D]

lets play ball

[Efwan]

Lol'd at gear comments considering riding and fandy didn't go below 90% hp

[grannock]

Yeah that's real believeable, the dude literally didn't swing for 4 minutes.
He plugged and I got into a rumble with some Casual Scum and had to die to the Bard GM.
Sorry I can beat most people in your guild, even on a naked character.

You got griefed off the server by empire. Still mad 2 months later hes trying to slander guttz with no yt. Yikes.

[Lasher]

Maybe gutz desynched and zoning fixed it. IDK. Gutz you arent leaving auto attack on are you?

[Guttzs]

Maybe gutz desynched and zoning fixed it. IDK. Gutz you arent leaving auto attack on are you?

That's a more reasonable explanation I didn't think of. When I zoned I was very easily able to attack and no I wasn't leaving auto attack on, I'm not no big dog but I'm not that bad. Honestly assumed the guy was doing something fishy I asked several people what could cause it. If I was desynched and accusing this guy of foul play I apologize. Would be glad to fight again it was fun.

[Nirgon]

Do you have your combat logs? If not /log on and make sure its making one from here on out.

If you do have em? Dump em 8)

[fan D]

who cares guttzs this kid stinks on ice every1 knows you rule

[fan D]

http://i.imgur.com/R6Hi6X6.jpg

[Redi]

Yea nice try screenshotting a PvE corpse involving a fight I had with casual scum, watch the video you landed 1 round in a 4 minute fight ( im pretty sure it was a riposte too) and then plugged.
My macroquest is real goog

So was it pve or pvp, I'm confused.

Grats guttz on the win, whether you landed 9/10 swings or 1/10 all that matters is the corpse.

[Nirgon]

big critties

[kernal]

That's a more reasonable explanation I didn't think of. When I zoned I was very easily able to attack and no I wasn't leaving auto attack on, I'm not no big dog but I'm not that bad. Honestly assumed the guy was doing something fishy I asked several people what could cause it. If I was desynched and accusing this guy of foul play I apologize. Would be glad to fight again it was fun.

clearly saw in the video that you hit rag 1 out of 200 attempts. this shows desync didnt happen as you hit him once. Clearly showed in the video you are retarded and completely terrible at this game.

[Heebo]

There's a bug where if you hit a skill like track while auto attacking, then you won't be able to register any hits until you swap targets. Looks like that's what happened here.

Well, that and rag editing a video of him getting destroyed to make it look like he won a PvP battle with no YT.

[Redi]

Strong words from an anon nobody. I wonder how the responses will play out.

[Heebo]

clearly saw in the video that you hit rag 1 out of 200 attempts. this shows desync didnt happen as you hit him once. Clearly showed in the video you are retarded and completely terrible at this game.
That was a riposte. U dum?

[kernal]

There's a bug where if you hit a skill like track while auto attacking, then you won't be able to register any hits until you swap targets. Looks like that's what happened here.

Well, that and rag editing a video of him getting destroyed to make it look like he won a PvP battle with no YT.

warriors can track? also this bug doesnt even exist that you are speaking of. try again tho.

[Redi]

I'm into it, keep it up kernal

[kernal]

lol i cant wait to join empire and show all these noobs how to play this game.

[Redi]

Zing

[HippoNipple]

lol i cant wait to join empire and show all these noobs how to play this game.

That will show them who's boss for sure.

[Kakadoody Boi]

Damn im a beast
dude couldn't even hit me once
anyone else wanna fight my naked warrior?

Best dagger/BP puller to ever grace this box lol

[kernal]

That will show them who's boss for sure.

remember when you rmt'd to get your character pl'd a few years ago lol

[HippoNipple]

remember when you rmt'd to get your character pl'd a few years ago lol

no, you are retarded

[kernal]

no, you are retarded

haha I do, easiest 130 i ever made

[Heebo]

Ragnaros thought process:

1. Record elf quest videos
2. Edit them.
3. Hope people forget that you have over 500 PvP deaths.

[HippoNipple]

haha I do, easiest 130 i ever made

The only PL/grinding I ever paid for was 1k plat to a druid to port me back and forth for faction grinding for my shaman. You are retarded and I have no idea who you are.

[kernal]

The only PL/grinding I ever paid for was 1k plat to a druid to port me back and forth for faction grinding for my shaman. You are retarded and I have no idea who you are.

I'm the guy you paid rmt to pl your character, im looking it up in my email now, I have your phone number and everything

[HippoNipple]

Well you obviously have the wrong guy. Nice admitting to RMT yourself though. Good luck.

[kernal]

nope was definitely you, it was on the blue server your cleric.

[kernal]

im still looking for the emails we shared tho so just hold tight

[HippoNipple]

Only character I had on blue was a gnome necro and a level 6 rogue. I also haven't played blue since red server launched.

[kernal]

im still looking but gms if you want a head start just look at the accounts hes logged in via his IP, his account name was like h1pponipple or something and his password was his phone number. still looking for it tho.

[HippoNipple]

Yeah I'm sure GMs are dropping everything to jump on that lead.

Please tell me this is someone like Hateraid.

[kernal]

somebody just messaged me and told me if i post this info here its dismissed, so im going to petition it instead, good luck out there!

[Ragnaros]

hehe im da bess im da bess

[Redi]

50-500 never forget

[Ragnaros]

retti? O I remember U, another ST/NTOV Warrior I embarrassed
http://i.imgur.com/q80B4pi.png?1
17 shots no 38

[Redi]

Damm trolls look so good

[vouss]

lol

[Samsung]

lol

[maerilith]

I agree with the OP, Ragnaros. There is some skill. But I also agree with flame.

Chimps can achieve the level of skill needed to be "good" at this game.

[Fame]

That feeling when your forumquest skills get people killed in game

[syztem]

All I saw were basically 2 equally geared warriors fighting, You have better ping and are a pretty good jouster already so its no surprise to begin with. Have never pvp'd vs guttsz but I fought with you plenty before I left and after leaving and anyone who fights you for the first time that has 80ms let alone 100ms+ is going to be going "WTF @ ur hitbox". You zone faster, have less lag etc and probably fit into that category of top 10 on the box who I have ran into with this. Pretty sure the 10 names I can think of that zone fast and have good ping don't even pvp or rarely do.

Pre ramdisk/ssd, a rogue zoning faster was the best. Everyone in GW/Friends/pvpers jumped on ramdisk or had an SSD towards end of kunark and velious for sure. Thats when it became easy to spot people zoning faster then you despite same ssd/ramdisk and pc setup, There was a post by rogean or nilbog that said something of how the servers worked to zone people and it basically lumped people into different gaps of ms.

[Ragnaros]

Yeah man definetly not equally geared, I was using a seb dirk and a css and my warrior has no worn haste, hes basically stripped besides cobalt legs and bp lol

[Kerwin]

lol rag has joust skills i really thought i could joust till i tried him, is no doubt hes pretty good

[syztem]

Not saying hes bad, Ragnaros is one of the best jousters ive seen. And going from a rogues burst backstab damage, to a warrior is only downgrading him to a worse player because of lack of burst damage. But to say his low ping doesn't play some part in it is foolish. Take a 30ms and a 90ms person jousting eachother both recording the pvp from their own viewpoint and watch as the 90ms person is perfectly on the hitbox getting target too far away messages. Thats just how the server is since the pre velious beta patch. Anyone with a higher MS really has to adjust for a hitbox they cannot see, and guess where it is going to be by time they hit their backstab/kick and what not to match up and hit.

[fan D]

i play with 22ms 24/7 and im the best player on the server so

id probably be the best player on the server regardless

[fiegi 8.0]

guttz got wrecked

[Redi]

50-500, ouch

[derpcake]

i play with 22ms 24/7 and im the best player on the server so

id probably be the best player on the server regardless

here is some attention

next bit will cost you

[fan D]

gaublez?

my boy?

[maerilith]

Ping is rly easily compensated for by a slight amount of uberchimp skill in eq because all skills have a realitivly large cool down and it's easy to predict the lag.

[FaithlessKR]

must be nice playing with sub 100 ms, defo no australia

[FaithlessKR]

eh I run 120-130 daily and I can joust halfway decently. Guttzs missed almost every round (he landed 1 or 2 maybe? in 4 mins). Sure it plays a factor, but not that much

That's my ping and I was considered one of the best rogues on the server for a long time. Even beat rag in every rogue duel we had on the pbe when I was playing ;)

[Ragnaros]

That's my ping and I was considered one of the best rogues on the server for a long time. Even beat rag in every rogue duel we had on the pbe when I was playing ;)

just checked leaderboard and found no record of dieing to you
ive beat lite reebz andis fandango multiple times
usually chuck or gaping aren't found in norrath unless its raid time so haven't rlly fought them
its a rng game anyways who cares

[Ragnaros]

June Good Guys Salt Empire Karnor's Castle 1.21 June 09 2015 4:14:41 AM count it tho

[Uuruk]

In all seriousness why are are you suddenly so butt hurt Ragnaros. You claim to not have been banned for a year lets see some proof.

[FaithlessKR]

clearly your rage at recalling losing duels to me overweighed your reading comprehension.

Even beat rag in every rogue duel we had on the pbe when I was playing ;)

Even beat you on the nizzar template monk 2/3 tries. You were 0-4 rogue v rogue on the pbe against me.

We never fought 1v1 in the entirety of the server. though if you want to count that desynced clusterfuck mass pvp battle in Karnors as points for you though then go for it. Anyone on the west coast will recall their complete inability to contribute anything to that battle due to being disconnected and having 5 second delays on abilities etc.

[Ragnaros]

so the only time we faught on red i texted you
got it

[Ragnaros]

fought doh

[fan D]

http://i.imgur.com/R6Hi6X6.jpg

[Guttzs]

No need to tell me I cant joust, how can I when all you do is run into guards and then plug.

[EatitNerd]

Guttzs jesus christ you're at 40% after fighting a naked warrior who apparently had guards on them? Fucking bad

[EatitNerd]

clearly your rage at recalling losing duels to me overweighed your reading comprehension.



Even beat you on the nizzar template monk 2/3 tries. You were 0-4 rogue v rogue on the pbe against me.

We never fought 1v1 in the entirety of the server. though if you want to count that desynced clusterfuck mass pvp battle in Karnors as points for you though then go for it. Anyone on the west coast will recall their complete inability to contribute anything to that battle due to being disconnected and having 5 second delays on abilities etc.


June 9th wasn't the big kc fight

[fan D]

http://i.imgur.com/fGNYTsz.jpg

[Doors]

Miss the SS I had of literally 9 people OT hammering off rags corpse after gorenaire.

Still love you tho kid.

[Ames1]

so the only time we faught on red i texted you
got it

how many lvl 60's do you have you bbq sauce lipped freak

[snufzaimoverlord]

Im undefeated with 5418 hp.

[ducktv]

Im undefeated with 5418 hp.

i have a full head of hair and over 40 deaths

[kevjax]

jesus so thats EQ pvp? Fucking worse pvp iv ever seen in any game...

[EatitNerd]

No, we do not call this pvp by any means lol

[FaithlessKR]

June 9th wasn't the big kc fight

Actually yes it was definitely one of the two, both were giant desync fests for west coasters. Rag has never killed me in any notable situation, and has lost every 1v1 to me rogue v rogue, staymad.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197420 (KC battle thread)

[Ragnaros]

sorry man leaderboad says im 1-0
maybe on the devnoob box u might be able to kill me
hehe

[FaithlessKR]

Clinging to a pvp kill against a desynced player, non factor status.

Refusal to admit his horrid w/l ratio in straight up 1v1 scenarios, bitter scrub status ;)

[Ragnaros]

im literally the best player on the server

[Redi]

Best players don't die more than entire guilds (50-500)

[Ragnaros]

Best players don't die more than entire guilds (50-500)

what does that make u then
http://i.imgur.com/q80B4pi.png?1

[Jjlent]

Miss ya rag, ur a huge troll but a good dude

[Jeni]

I can't stop watching and laughing at this video. Hamlet is such a beast.

[Redi]

what does that make u then
http://i.imgur.com/q80B4pi.png?1

Someone that died once and not 500 times (not bind camped/yikes)

Next