Plane of Mischief Rat completes eats Items despite weilding them

[Foxplay]

Including is footage of a Teriling (Non quest npc) in Plane of Mischief, being given x2 Deadwood staves , and x2 Adamantite Bands . Footage is cut for length as after charming the mob I went on to slay many of fellow rats with him, Video shows rat procing deadwood staves I gave it at beginning of charm and after killing him having nothing on his loot table (Ate x2 Deadwood Staves, and x2 Adamantite bands)

http://www.twitch.tv/foxplayspottyfox/v/45323566

[Smurn]

Nice video fox, thanks. How quickly will your items be reimbursed?

[Foxplay]

Probably never? /shrug . Luckally I have an extra set, just really annoying cause takes time to farm and I never see them for sale - Id rather Eat a death No rez than loose pet gear quite honestly

[Smurn]

In my days of pet charming i'd equip my pet with mage summoned pet gear (on live) and negative magic resist items which i also hated to lose.

[Smurn]

Is there a video playback lockout when you're offline? I ask because I went back to view more of your chanter at work and couldn't view more videos but it could be this tablet. What does it cost to upload these to Twitch?

[Foxplay]

Is there a video playback lockout when you're offline? I ask because I went back to view more of your chanter at work and couldn't view more videos but it could be this tablet. What does it cost to upload these to Twitch?

Um not that I know of, just tryed and loaded up a few of my past streams worked fine... but I don't watch or edit my streams i just stream and whats done is done, occasionally ill make a highlight video when i feel like it but thats about it

[jpetrick]

This happened to my friend and I in Seb. We were swapping pets, broke with invis and nuked it down. No items on the corpse. Only lost some daggers but annoying nonetheless.

[Daldaen]

The way it was coded here was a temporary fix. It doesn't work exactly how it should on live, but it works enough if you know the things not to do.

The reason you didn't receive your items you gave a pet was either one of two things:

1. The NPC has a quest attached to it. The original reason it was removed on P99 was people would give Lynunga Rubies, get earrings and midnight mallets, then kill her and loot rubies. Clearly an exploit.

The way it was resolved on P99 when it was put back in game, was all NPCs that have a quest turn in associated with them, will eat any items given to them. Undead foreman in OT is a prime example. If you give him items and kill him after he will wield them but his corpse will always be empty.

2. You gave the items when the NPC was not charmed. For whatever reason the code requires the NPC be charmed when you give them the items. If for example you give the items to a non-KoS NPC like a PoMischief mob, while they are just standing there not yet charmed, they will equip all the items but will never drop them. This part isn't classic, you were able to load up rats in Freeport with items and they would drop them.

But on P99 just remember to always charm before gearing out pets.

[Triangle]

I use teriling as well and he always drops the items I give him

[Daldaen]

I can't check the twitch feed you linked at work but I will guess what you did was you fed him the items before charming him. That will lead to him not dropping the items.

Always charm first, and give items second.

[jpetrick]

Dald, do you have an explanation for what happened to me in Seb? Mob was charmed when we gave our weapons to him. Would like to avoid this happening again if you know a solution.

[Liia]

I used a Teriling 2 days ago to kill Stomples and I got all my items back.

[Daldaen]

Dald, do you have an explanation for what happened to me in Seb? Mob was charmed when we gave our weapons to him. Would like to avoid this happening again if you know a solution.

Only thought is maybe no drop weapons? It is slightly possible the person handing the item needs to be the charmer too, dunno if I've tested that.

Typically it's people using quest mobs or giving items to uncharmed NPCs which have issues recovering the item from the mobs corpse.

I've been slowly duoing in Sebilis and I've yet to have a weapon get eaten.

[Smurn]

Its beginning to sound like a zone specific bug, that is if weaps and items were given after charming. Curious if the type of charm, fixed duration vs normal, changes anything. How about an update Fox?

Also, I've confirmed that this droid tablet running Ice Cream Sandwich is too dated to load videos from Twitch. My tablet running Jellybean has no such problem.

[Sorn]

It is slightly possible the person handing the item needs to be the charmer too, dunno if I've tested that.

This is not the case. I have given a springwood club to a Teriling charmed by someone else and got it back after we killed it.

[Smurn]

Is Allure the charm of choice here? Isnt that variable duration?

[Foxplay]

Is Allure the charm of choice here? Isnt that variable duration?

So is Boltran's there is no fixed (charm last longer) charm

Allure is way less mana (245 vs. 400) but has a slightly higher cast time 6sec vs. 4sec

Allure Target cap is level 51 npc's which works wonders for the Rat maze cause the highest level Rat is the Teriling's at level 49, the Ratling's the lowest level rat in the maze I believe are 46

Boltran's target cap is level 53

I'm by no means nor do I pretend to be a "Pro" enchanter and consider myself to still be learning the class at best id call myself a "Intermediate" enchanter but so long as the target isn't above level 51 I see really no benefit to useing Boltran's for the extra 155mana tacked on. Perhaps ill test it a night or two and see if average charm duration lasts longer /shrug

But anyway thread of off topic, Ive already farmed myself TWO replacement sets of deadwoodstaves / rings. But the question remains these are non-kos NPC's and they are not Quest NPC's if handed items during charm (or) even possibly if charm broke right as i hit the Give button to be truely classic shouldn't the NPC still drop the item once killed later?

If it was classic that you could hand Non-KOS monsters items and they would weild them / drop them. Why then does P99 have it in a un-classic state that the monster MUST be charmed at the time the item is given in order for the monster to add it to their drop table inventory

[Smurn]

If it was classic that you could hand Non-KOS monsters items and they would weild them / drop them. Why then does P99 have it in a un-classic state that the monster MUST be charmed at the time the item is given in order for the monster to add it to their drop table inventory

Excellent question! Maybe Dald or Sorn have some insight into this?

This is not the case. I have given a springwood club to a Teriling charmed by someone else and got it back after we killed it.

If not a zone specific bug then what does that mean? Fox did you petiton or is that only on live?

[jpetrick]

Only thought is maybe no drop weapons? It is slightly possible the person handing the item needs to be the charmer too, dunno if I've tested that.

Typically it's people using quest mobs or giving items to uncharmed NPCs which have issues recovering the item from the mobs corpse.

I've been slowly duoing in Sebilis and I've yet to have a weapon get eaten.

Charmer was the person handing the pet the weapons, they both were droppable. I can't figure out a reason why they wouldn't be returned upon a death to a PC.