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Spyder73
12-15-2015, 12:35 PM
So I started playing on the new TLP...Have to say I have very pleasantly surprised. And the best part? You can play P99 and the TLP at the same time! Just yesterday I was socking on ToV while leveling my new monk in highpass on Orcs. If you are a "raider" this is a great alternative while unclassic variance ruins our P99 experience and we must leave our characters in a specific zone instead of actually playing the game.

I have only played monk (13) so far, but the live server is a lot different from P99 and I cant say its all bad. Fist damage scales up WAY faster, all your special abilities (Tiger Claw, Round House, Ect, Ect) are on different cool downs, so you are attacking way more often, you can buy Disciplines from vendors starting at level 1, and cool things like triple attack and upgraded 2H values are already in the game. Basically everyone does a sh!t ton more damage, but raid mobs are scaled up appropriately (from what i'm told).

The server is not even a week old yet so you have not missed much.

Observations/Info about the new TLP:

1) Leveling feels faster - and there are no hell levels. Server launched 6 days ago and people 40-45+. I have played about 8-10 hours total and im 13

2)Classic through Luclin is level 60. So there is literally 12 months of being level 60, and ANOTHER 12 of being 65, plenty of time to do all the things you want to do. It will be over 2 years away before you level above 65...And we get AA's!

3) This is a "true box" server, and I have only seen 1 case of blatant mage army. 99% of the player base is playing 1 or maybe 2 characters. Feels P99ish in that regard.

4) Instanced raids mean once you join a guild you can kill *every* dragon each week

5) Some of the zone revamps are pretty cool, everything is essentially in the same place but the look is different and some mobs have upgraded models, ect, ect. I know some people hate upgraded graphics but I dont mind them

6) When you die the XP penalty is lower and you corpse fully geared

7) travel is much easier with a teleportation system in lieu of boats, and everyone gets a free AA at level 5 called "Origin" that teleports you to your starting city on a 5 min CD.

8) Even zones are instances, so if there is a popular zone with a popular camp, chances are there are anywhere between 3-6 zones you can trasnfer to to check and see if camp is open. Makes farming a lot simpler and less time consuming.

Over all I am impressed thus far and wanted to share my experience incase any of you guys were interested but leery

JackFlash
12-15-2015, 12:46 PM
8) Even zones are instances, so if there is a popular zone with a popular camp, chances are there are anywhere between 3-6 zones you can trasnfer to to check and see if camp is open. Makes farming a lot simpler and less time consuming.

This seems interesting? So for there could be 4 versions of a regular zone going at one time?

Orruar
12-15-2015, 12:51 PM
Wouldn't a fbss farmer just swap between the 4 instances of lguk to get 4x the spawns?

maskedmelon
12-15-2015, 12:53 PM
Wouldn't a fbss farmer just swap between the 4 instances of lguk to get 4x the spawns?

No! Nobody would do that!

burkemi5
12-15-2015, 01:13 PM
Wouldn't a fbss farmer just swap between the 4 instances of lguk to get 4x the spawns?

I hope there's some lockout mechanism in place to prevent that.

Also @OP, the server sounds great honestly. Some of the diehards here may whine over the non classic changes, but I personally think they're great. I'd love to see the CSR data, such as # of petitions, on that server with instanced racing vs non instanced. Plus, when everyone can access the content they want, I imagine people are more friendly. Why argue over a spawn when you can switch instances and both get it?

Competition can be fun, but not to the point where it ruins every interaction. Compare that to p99, where you can't pull a fire beetle without someone whining that they were camping it. I'd check it out, but I really don't wanna pay, even if it's just an upfront cost. Thanks for posting your opinions.

Bruno
12-15-2015, 01:23 PM
I admittedly did not give the server a fair shot before I talked a little shit about the instancing. Although I'm still not a fan of the instancing, the server is pretty fun. The obviously difference in server is welcome as far as CRs, exp penalties, and graphics. The community seems friendly as well. If they stopped at PoP it would be my final destination.

Tollen
12-15-2015, 01:25 PM
This seems interesting? So for there could be 4 versions of a regular zone going at one time?


from what i saw on other TLP, not all zone have instancing, it was only for leveling zones, Nek forest, lava storm. were the once i saw. and the player base in that zone had to reach a max before it would create one. If the player base isn't there it drops it down as needed, so you wont see 5 instance of Lguk with no one in each one.

there is a lockout timer for switching. so its no as easy as you would think to monopolize named loot,

Zade
12-15-2015, 01:47 PM
The server is not even a week old yet so you have not missed much.

Observations/Info about the new TLP:

1) Leveling feels faster - and there are no hell levels. Server launched 6 days ago and people 40-45+. I have played about 8-10 hours total and im 13 Wood not play. you should be level 7 or 8 tops

2)Classic through Luclin Wood not play is level 60. So there is literally 12 months of being level 60 Wood not play, and ANOTHER 12 of being 65 Wood not play, plenty of time to do all the things you want to do. It will be over 2 years away before you level above 65...And we get AA's Wood not play!

3) This is a "true box" server, and I have only seen 1 case of blatant mage armyWood not play. 99% of the player base is playing 1 or maybe 2 charactersWood not play, probably half are mages anyways. Feels P99ish in that regard.

4) Instanced raids Wood not play mean once you join a guild you can kill *every* dragon each week did this with Nihilum. was cool for a week. then it became about the pvp

5) Some of the zone revamps Wood not play are pretty cool, everything is essentially in the same place but the look is different and some mobs have upgraded models Wood not play, ect, ect. I know some people hate upgraded graphics but I dont mind them

6) When you die the XP penalty is lower and you corpse fully geared Wood not play

7) travel is much easier with a teleportation system Wood not play. Uthgaard > theybreakgames in lieu of boats, and everyone gets a free AA at level 5 called "Origin" that teleports you to your starting city on a 5 min CD.

8) Even zones are instances Wood not play, so if there is a popular zone with a popular camp, chances are there are anywhere between 3-6 zones you can trasnfer to to check and see if camp is open. Makes farming a lot simpler and less time consuming. Soon, some neckbeard guild will have every instance of every camp on farm status

Over all I am impressed thus far and wanted to share my experience incase any of you guys were interested but leery


Overall, Wood not play (again)

iruinedyourday
12-15-2015, 02:01 PM
Op has gotten better at typing (200)

but forgot to train in posting and is still at a (0)

Spyder73
12-15-2015, 03:28 PM
I was super skeptical about the TLP and all i'm just saying is its fun and worth a go if you are getting bored with P99. I am at the point where basically Sat-Wed I can't move my character from Velious due to raid targets and both my alts are in the 50s, so my option is to grind KC or go solo farm something. Neither of those is fun for me anymore (well i like to solo some on my necro still).

Sitting around waiting for Dragons to pop means you cant play P99, so half of the top end population is in perma stasis for over half the week. Lately when I'm "playing P99" I am actually sitting at the log in screen playing other games (Zelda on emulator most recently). So this TLP is refreshing for me and I think it can be for others as well. My reaction time to log in to P99 has dramatically increased because all I have to do is quickly switch screens and i'm good to go!

If you want to play this server but are scared that it will be overwhelming or not worth it, I am here to say that I find it a good supplement to P99. All the things that really "ruined" EQ wont be implemented for 2+ years.

iruinedyourday
12-15-2015, 03:30 PM
Try red loser.

Spyder73
12-15-2015, 03:36 PM
Try red loser.

I would rather stab myself in the groin with rusty needles than help fuel the sociopathic mentality of Red. "Build a model airplanes" says the little fairy; well, we're not buying it. He sneaks into your house once, that's all it takes. The next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser, and your daughter's knocked up. I seen it a hundred times.

iruinedyourday
12-15-2015, 04:29 PM
Can't even type a short post to reply to that.

am0n
12-15-2015, 04:43 PM
I was super skeptical about the TLP and all i'm just saying is its fun and worth a go if you are getting bored with P99. I am at the point where basically Sat-Wed I can't move my character from Velious due to raid targets and both my alts are in the 50s, so my option is to grind KC or go solo farm something. Neither of those is fun for me anymore (well i like to solo some on my necro still).

Sitting around waiting for Dragons to pop means you cant play P99, so half of the top end population is in perma stasis for over half the week. Lately when I'm "playing P99" I am actually sitting at the log in screen playing other games (Zelda on emulator most recently). So this TLP is refreshing for me and I think it can be for others as well. My reaction time to log in to P99 has dramatically increased because all I have to do is quickly switch screens and i'm good to go!

If you want to play this server but are scared that it will be overwhelming or not worth it, I am here to say that I find it a good supplement to P99. All the things that really "ruined" EQ wont be implemented for 2+ years.

P2002 is a good alternative for someone not interested in paying. Not quite as polished, I am sure, but it too plans to go up through PoP (and stop there), has ways to facilitate travel, faster leveling, etc. Doesn't have the instanced content (which I like the idea of), but the population right now means getting your camp of interest isn't difficult. And the player base so far is super friendly. There is boxing, but a lot of people don't bother (basically like you described).

Like you, I've found it to be a great option for when nothing else is going on in p99 or when I am logged out socking a spawn.

So, is this TLP your version of Jail?

Spyder73
12-15-2015, 04:50 PM
So, is this TLP your version of Jail?

ToV is my jail, and I am unable to leave or I get no pixels

nicemace
12-15-2015, 06:58 PM
what ya name on server mate ? im looking for some p99 pals to hoon some exp with.

iruinedyourday
12-15-2015, 07:08 PM
ToV is my jail, and I am unable to leave or I get no pixels

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Spyder73
12-16-2015, 10:18 AM
what ya name on server mate ? im looking for some p99 pals to hoon some exp with.

Eyeless - level 14 monk - I just made ym over over to Upper Guk to get the fabled Mesh/Netted armor from frogs

Swish
12-16-2015, 10:35 AM
So I started playing on the new TLP...Have to say I have very pleasantly surprised. And the best part? You can play P99 and the TLP at the same time!

You can play blue and red together, and save money, and have a better experience.

Dac321
12-16-2015, 11:27 AM
Been playing a few days now.. I like it.

am0n
12-16-2015, 11:36 AM
You can play blue and red together, and save money, and have a better experience.

A lot of that depends on what your opinion is of a better experience. If he is enjoying himself more on the TLP, then clearly that is a better experience for him.

Evia
12-16-2015, 01:25 PM
I hate new eq. But I really like this tlp server so far! Way more fun then I expected. I'll play it I think till pop and quit. Hopefully green99 is soon after?

Alenon
12-18-2015, 02:30 AM
Did they slow the xp rate way down? I see they posted an announcement it was meant to be slower. I just started tonight it took me an hour to get to level 2......on p99 i was 3-4 by then

Spyder73
12-18-2015, 09:54 AM
I'm used to P99 XP rates, so in that regard its fast, plus there are no hell levels so its meant to go "smoother". I dinged 17 last night, can finally Feign Death! I have been playing about 2-4 hours per night if that gives you an idea of XP gains...minimal jacking around, mostly XPing. Have not had problems finding groups, been running across more and more 2 boxxers, but its actually kind of cool. I don't mind 2 boxing as long as its 2 boxing and not 10 boxing.

Message Eyeless in game, would love to play with more P99ers.

Still really enjoying myself, classic EQ with some modern balancing adjustments and upgrades, its not bad at all.

Alenon
12-18-2015, 10:39 AM
Just seems super slow to me compared to what p1999 was. Considering the rate I was getting last night, I feel like I need a full day of grinding just to get my lvl 4 pet! But if I decide to try again, Alenon lvl 1 mage :P

Spyder73
12-18-2015, 11:04 AM
Just seems super slow to me compared to what p1999 was. Considering the rate I was getting last night, I feel like I need a full day of grinding just to get my lvl 4 pet! But if I decide to try again, Alenon lvl 1 mage :P

1-10 on P99 is terrible also, if you are twinked to the teeth it eases the pain, but rolling untwinked on P99 is as bad as it is on TLP. If you can fight through the start it evens out and becomes much inline with what you are expecting. Remember this server will be at a 60 cap for 1 year, and then a 65 cap for another year, so its not like you have to level to 135 or whatever the current level cap is anytime soon. Just keep plugging away and youll get there. 1-5 are brutal, 5-10 sucks, 10-20 the game starts hitting its stride

Alenon
12-18-2015, 01:37 PM
1-10 on P99 is terrible also, if you are twinked to the teeth it eases the pain, but rolling untwinked on P99 is as bad as it is on TLP. If you can fight through the start it evens out and becomes much inline with what you are expecting. Remember this server will be at a 60 cap for 1 year, and then a 65 cap for another year, so its not like you have to level to 135 or whatever the current level cap is anytime soon. Just keep plugging away and youll get there. 1-5 are brutal, 5-10 sucks, 10-20 the game starts hitting its stride

Yeah I suppose it's just been so long since I've had to level even on p99, I may try a few hours tonight.

Evia
12-18-2015, 03:59 PM
If anyone would like to group on phinny hmu. My characters name is Kell over there I play an 11 ranger and I play with 3 other guys too and eventually my wife (hopefully, still convincing) so if we can pick up 2 more people we can full group it anywhere! Just hit up najena last night.

Alenon
12-18-2015, 06:18 PM
I still don't even understand the way looting works here, I just wanna right click and loot!

JackFlash
12-18-2015, 09:29 PM
Under loot options in the advloot window uncheck "use advance looting system"

Darksinga
12-20-2015, 10:10 AM
Playing an ENC after I found out bard swarming was removed... Man wtf

chipz
12-20-2015, 11:08 AM
Is there a site somewhere that shows class distribution on Phinny?

nhdjoseywales
12-21-2015, 01:13 PM
Made a chanter named Gingyr Haznosoul. Halfway thru lvl 49. Hole unlocked yesterday. Half geared in loam already plus gebs and smr. Have met some awesome people. I fucking love Phinny.


The P99'r formerly known as Bethe.

nhdjoseywales
12-21-2015, 01:14 PM
Did they slow the xp rate way down? I see they posted an announcement it was meant to be slower. I just started tonight it took me an hour to get to level 2......on p99 i was 3-4 by then

Yes, its like 2/3 normal server xp.

Swish
12-21-2015, 01:18 PM
Playing an ENC after I found out bard swarming was removed... Man wtf

The thought of going into my own instanced zones and swarming to max level.... lol.

http://i.imgur.com/1gBWIug.gif

nhdjoseywales
12-21-2015, 05:26 PM
The thought of going into my own instanced zones and swarming to max level.... lol.

http://i.imgur.com/1gBWIug.gif

Doesn't quite work that way. A new instance of a regular zone only opens when tehre is a lot of people in the main instance. There is no way to get an instance to yourself unless it spawned and everyone else has left it and you are the only thing keeping it open. Even at 4 am , no instance is deserted if it exists.

Darksinga
12-23-2015, 12:11 PM
Xp rate is actually worse than P99. lvl 10 after 2-3 nights. I swear I got my druid to 30 easier on p99 lol.

Note, OP probably posted when xp was double for the weekend etc.

At level 10, you sometimes need to kill 3 dark blues for 1% of xp (wtf right.) White/yellow cons will equal 1% but killing whites/yellows in rags was always difficult.

Darksinga
12-23-2015, 12:17 PM
Made a chanter named Gingyr Haznosoul. Halfway thru lvl 49. Hole unlocked yesterday. Half geared in loam already plus gebs and smr. Have met some awesome people. I fucking love Phinny.


The P99'r formerly known as Bethe.

Holy hell man did you even log out when double XP was live? I probably need to start grouping rather than solo. Solo seems like the shits here in comparison to the group bonus.

nhdjoseywales
12-23-2015, 01:18 PM
Holy hell man did you even log out when double XP was live? I probably need to start grouping rather than solo. Solo seems like the shits here in comparison to the group bonus.

solo is terrible here bro. hook up with a good group in unrest or guk and the xp flows like rain.

i took the week off last week so i played pretty much til my eyes bled each day. by the time double xp came around i was already in the mid to high 40's.

last night we killed naggy, vox, phinny twice, yael, and cleared fear including draco, minis and cazic. we were server seconds on all the mobs sadly but we did get a server first BCG and 2 slime bloods.

i am lovin this shit

Darksinga
12-24-2015, 06:18 AM
Thanks for the advice man!

I think I'm going back to the bard and will box a second toon from my laptop. Going to do my best to find groups this time rather than solo!

captnamazing
12-24-2015, 10:40 AM
pretty dank gif swish

Must say that p99 has been enough EQ for me. The only addiction remaining is FQ.

Darksinga
12-24-2015, 11:28 PM
So my attitude towards this server has made a complete 180 since I started boxing/grouping.

I wanted to do a weird combo, so decided on bard as my main, and shaman as my alt. That way I figure I can always start a group with heals/CC, will just need any one to tank (or a pet.)

After one night of XPing, got to lvl 7. I think I've figured out how the server calculates XP. it seems that, regardless of if you are in a group or not, you'll get the same XP rate (say of 1% per even con mob.)

As such, it 100% doesn't make sense to solo as faster kills are what your after, not more XP from a single mob.

I'm playing on Darksinga (bard) and Tavadon (shaman) send me a tell in game if you need anything or want to group.

Evia
01-03-2016, 08:23 PM
Anyone still playing here? I'm 27 on my bard and 18 on my ranger. Kinda lvling slow but I'm having fun!

nhdjoseywales
01-04-2016, 11:32 AM
I am, just dinged 50 on my alt wizzie

feanan
01-04-2016, 12:11 PM
Like the server, like the ideas behind it, as far as instancing and such.
Like the little things I miss here, like spell sets, targeting rings, etc.

Experience sucks big time. Double exp weekend, took me 6+ hours to get to level 5, soloing as dwarf cleric.

Now that double exp is over, not sure I can maintain the motivation to grind to 10+

nhdjoseywales
01-04-2016, 12:26 PM
Like the server, like the ideas behind it, as far as instancing and such.
Like the little things I miss here, like spell sets, targeting rings, etc.

Experience sucks big time. Double exp weekend, took me 6+ hours to get to level 5, soloing as dwarf cleric.

Now that double exp is over, not sure I can maintain the motivation to grind to 10+

Dont solo. period. You wasted the entire double xp period if you were soloing. XP here is set up so full groups get as much xp per kill as someone soloing, if you are soloing you are completely wasting your time if leveling is your goal. Get in a nice group in crushbone, unrest, guk, etc and the xp is ridiculous. In the time you took to get from 1-5 you could have gotten to lvl 15 in a group pretty easily. Again, dont solo, especially as one of the worst solo classes in the game and complain its slow.

ps...there are low level groups on orc hill and other places. just invite random people if nothing else. thats what we did on launch and it worked fine.

feanan
01-04-2016, 03:30 PM
people weren't exactly beating down my door to group up with a level 3 cleric.
maybe it gets better :)

nhdjoseywales
01-04-2016, 04:20 PM
people weren't exactly beating down my door to group up with a level 3 cleric.
maybe it gets better :)

just invite random other newbies. pretty sure my first bat beatdown group was a couple casters and a bunch of melee, i dont think there was a healer at all. once you get to 3 you should be ablke to get a group on orc hill and then work that til 7 or 8 and hit crushbone outside the castle for a few levels and then head to unrest til late 30's

Laugher
01-06-2016, 04:38 PM
Phinnys not classic, but not nearly as bad as Fippy (with the defiant gear/super not classic) or regular live by a long shot. Will probably sink a few hours into this one with the way its looking.

Spyder73
01-06-2016, 04:59 PM
I'm 44 monk now - really enjoying my time there so far. Got Cloak of Shadows, FBSS, and im currently in OOT camping seafuries for J boots. Good times!

In March Kunark hits, so we will have 6 months of Kunark/Velious. So you basically have until August/September to get to 60 if you want to power into Luclin.

Instanced raids, no corpse runs, balance changes/upgrades to all classes, a hardy XP curve instead of EZ server XP rates - all good things happening on Phinny right now

nicemace
01-07-2016, 05:31 PM
My 4 box group is 33 now. Just playing casually... I missed all the double xp weekends

1-10 is a lot Harder than the rest.

Happy to help out some p99 bros

Bristlebaner
01-08-2016, 12:59 AM
It's fun - biggest downside for me are spell effects and non-classic skeletons, wolves and spectres. But can over look I suppose.

Darksinga
01-15-2016, 06:39 AM
Lvl 31 atm. Also going a bit slow. PST Darksinga if you need help getting started. I play weird euro/aussie hours, I start my day around midnight HST.

Spyder73
01-15-2016, 10:01 AM
I killed Naggy/Vox on wednesday, was tons of fun. Have done a couple of fear raids and a Sky raid as well. level 47 now.

I was pulling Fear for the guild and CT spawned right on top of me, almost sh!t my pants