cross plat transfers/TMO

[TheDuck]

So, a while back they banned cross server plat exchange, around this time TMO was making its way to RED from BLUE, at that time I was big into trading and watched the plat movement through the economy. I personally saw about 800k red move through and know of atleast 5mil more through friends to TMO members.

I think plenty of time has passed and the people from TMO who have quit and moved on that the GM's can confirm that the entirety of the blue TMO to red TMO move was nothing but a calculated plat transfer to change exchange rates to more favorable rates to $$ out of the game. Anyone who watched the market could see it coming, many people did.

So, that said. How about the GM's name and shame the individuals from TMO who orchestrated this sham of a guild movement at detriment to their own guild members that lost tons of value and the ability to transfer back to blue. In essence screwing over there own guild members royally.

Name and Shame

[Jazzy]

Didnt follow but voted yes

[Redi]

1 star

[Nirgon]

What the fuck

[georgie]

big dumb stupid bitch

[Seltius]

Sorry this is like asking someone how they are today and getting a Yes or No answer.. I am sure in some drug induced alter reality something in that made sense but just cant find it.

[Efwan]

Tooti cashed out

[TheDuck]

the whole movement of blue to red by TMO leadership was an RMT scheme, they duped people to transfer plat over in order to move plat around to sell.

[iruinedyourday]

holy shit the amount of fucks I give about this is in the crazy negatives.

[Kergan]

I don't think you know how like, economics work.

[Redi]

Let's see them pretty pink toes

[Tassador]

No idea what this is about. Guessing Agatha and drugs.

[Seltius]

Let's see them pretty pink toes

Ok man no place for foot fetishism here! Toe cheese and foot funguy need not apply.

[TheDuck]

i think we have established noone cares anyone, and it would be just an interesting point of history for the server in the server staff would release how TMO abused cross server plat transfers and got it banned.

[Fame]

Someone got burned bad on the exchange rates

prayers

[Beastagoog]

Its no secret TMO and RMT go hand in hand.

[Xaanka]

the whole movement of blue to red by TMO leadership was an RMT scheme, they duped people to transfer plat over in order to move plat around to sell.

if this were true why did the leaders quit before they took the gm's up on their gm approved 1 time blue to red xfer of the tmo blue guild bank worth millions of red plat? doesn't make sense. you sound really out of the loop, bet you didn't even know about that lol.

[iruinedyourday]

OP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfwJA0f0UTg

[Ames1]

Ok man no place for foot fetishism here! Toe cheese and foot funguy need not apply.

I usually like to let a guy nut on my soles and then let it dry for an hour. Afterwards I can peel it off like you used to remove the dried elmers glue on your fingers in kindergarten.

[Xaanka]

I usually like to let a guy nut on my soles and then let it dry for an hour. Afterwards I can peel it off like you used to remove the dried elmers glue on your fingers in kindergarten.

keep going, im almost there

[iruinedyourday]

I always like hoped that the true story behind TMO transferring to red.. was a big con by Tiggles.. where in he convinced all of TMO and whoever else he could to move to red, cus it was 'the future of p99'

and then he like brokered all these plat trades and got hug cuts out of every deal, then he proceeded to RMT it all off and then left the box altogether and is now fucking 14yo's in thialand.

[Xaanka]

what could you even make off a sinister p99 rmt plot? 14 dollers?

[LostCause]

https://drugs-forum.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1424&pictureid=13942

OP DRUGS

[AzzarTheGod]

what could you even make off a sinister p99 rmt plot? 14 dollers?

heh rumors and economists analysis go beyond what you would imagine. so i hear

[Xaanka]

heh rumors and economists analysis go beyond what you would imagine. so i hear

i liked when all the usual tinfoilers were talking about how derubael made hundreds of thousands off the server, and then that sirken convo leaked and it was like 10k

[iruinedyourday]

i liked when all the usual tinfoilers were talking about how derubael made hundreds of thousands off the server, and then that sirken convo leaked and it was like 10k

to be fair 10k is like 2 years of unemployment which is like 4 years of p99 socking so, sounds good.

[AzzarTheGod]

to be fair 10k is like 2 years of unemployment which is like 4 years of p99 socking so, sounds good.

was 25-27k in the example you gave.

other analysis has been but we cant get into it its not appropriate here

[AzzarTheGod]

i liked when all the usual tinfoilers were talking about how derubael made hundreds of thousands off the server, and then that sirken convo leaked and it was like 10k

25k in a few months is hundreds. nuff said on this though.

[TheDuck]

yawl going to get my post deleted, this wasn't the intent of this post.


it was to expose TMO leadership. everyone knows about that shit and noone cares. this is that fresh shit.

I think we should ask jeremy to log into his bankers and show us his stash.

[AzzarTheGod]

sorry pal i got baited im a professor who prioritizes fixing historical inaccuracies.

wont happen again

[Redi]

show us his stash.

http://i.imgur.com/xmCyJUb.jpg

[TheDuck]

looks like a cool game man, how many more red diamonds u need?

[T7g]

heh, Anime knows what he's talking about.

As I said before- all assets remain.

When TMO started going to Red (which was voted on by the guild at large by the way) we accidentally made the rate go up.

Why you may ask? Supply and demand, we had tons of blue plat and there wasn't nearly enough red plat to compensate.

Do you know why they stopped red->blue and blue->red?

People were using red to get triple on blue and then sell it.

It's not rocket appliances guys.

It was harder for the GMs to be able to stamp out RMT when cross-color transfers were allowed; Nothing more, nothing less.

I have to give you credit for not being in our private forums, because if you were you'd see exactly why big daddy Zee was selling off blue items.

[TheDuck]

no i totally believe you. nothing funny went on at all.

[T7g]

no i totally believe you. nothing funny went on at all.

I wish I could elaborate- but I can't.

Hack our forums or ask just about anyone what was going on.

[Xaanka]

why would gm's make exceptions for tmo if they made the rule change to stop tmo from rmting? there's a lot of holes in your logic.

[TheDuck]

why would gm's make exceptions for tmo if they made the rule change to stop tmo from rmting? there's a lot of holes in your logic.

umm, im not saiyng the GM's made any kind of exception, im saying the GM's specifically stopped cross server transfers because of what they saw TMO doing.


I'm not saying there was any sort of corruption, exactly the opposite.

[T7g]

umm, im not saiyng the GM's made any kind of exception, im saying the GM's specifically stopped cross server transfers because of what they saw TMO doing.


I'm not saying there was any sort of corruption, exactly the opposite.

The GMs did not stop cross server transfers because of TMO. End of story.

[Xaanka]

umm, im not saiyng the GM's made any kind of exception, im saying the GM's specifically stopped cross server transfers because of what they saw TMO doing.


I'm not saying there was any sort of corruption, exactly the opposite.

i'm saying the gm's made an exception and were going to allow TMO to transfer millions of plat to red after the rule change. t7 confirmed this. sorry you wasted a lot of time because you seem really invested in your 'research'

[TheDuck]

The GMs did not stop cross server transfers because of TMO. End of story.

Actually they did. TMO was playing the RMTers against eachother, using vast sources of plat on both sides and then claiming dumb when the accounts got banned for being involved in RMT, getting them restored. Because they arn't actually RMTing, they were just profiting off of the market rate of plat ratio's.


What im getting at is, Why? I know the sums of plat involved here, there is no need for that kind of plat, you can't make enough characters to gear with that kind of plat.

What are you doing with all that plat? I think we all know.

[Xaanka]

Actually they did. TMO was playing the RMTers against eachother, using vast sources of plat on both sides and then claiming dumb when the accounts got banned for being involved in RMT, getting them restored. Because they arn't actually RMTing, they were just profiting off of the market rate of plat ratio's.


What im getting at is, Why? I know the sums of plat involved here, there is no need for that kind of plat, you can't make enough characters to gear with that kind of plat.

What are you doing with all that plat? I think we all know.

none of this addressed my debunk.

[T7g]

ugh, yeah.

There was a deal because TMO on blue were wrongfully banned, there was a one time deal we never went through with. (That I know of) that was 3:1, blue to red.

Any TMO member can confirm this (DD posted about it in Breezy)

and even former TMO officers that went to Empire (Xepiz) can confirm this was why we were liquidating on blue.


Shitty thing is, it all fell apart before we could make use of it.

TL;DR- Liquidated on blue because we had a one time deal to move to red. Shit fell to pieces before it happened AFAIK. However, only a retard would transfer blue to red to RMT it.

Are you happy now?

[Xaanka]

your entire theory relies upon the gm's banning cross server transfer because of TMO, which i disproved. in no way could you logically explain the gm's unbanning the TMO blue guildbank and allowing a one time massive cross server xfer if this was happening.

[TheDuck]

none of this addressed my debunk.

about offering the rank and file members the ability to transfer back to blue?

Because the GM's saw how TMO leadership abused rank and file members, using all the rank and file members plat transfers to hide the dirty transfers, so many transfers that it flooded the logs.

I'm sure TMO rank and file members realized early on after the leaders disapeared from the red guild what happened and they were up shits creek, but by then cross server transfers were closed and they probably even petitioned the GM's for help before being offered.

[Xaanka]

ugh, yeah.

There was a deal because TMO on blue were wrongfully banned, there was a one time deal we never went through with. (That I know of) that was 3:1, blue to red.

Any TMO member can confirm this (DD posted about it in Breezy)

and even former TMO officers that went to Empire (Xepiz) can confirm this was why we were liquidating on blue.


Shitty thing is, it all fell apart before we could make use of it.

TL;DR- Liquidated on blue because we had a one time deal to move to red. Shit fell to pieces before it happened AFAIK. However, only a retard would transfer blue to red to RMT it.

Are you happy now?

i was talking to dd about it pretty much the last time he was on red, can confirm it was going to happen but he was holding off just a bit longer to see if he could get a not-joke offer on one of the blue pre-nerf fungi staves.

[T7g]

about offering the rank and file members the ability to transfer back to blue?

Because the GM's saw how TMO leadership abused rank and file members, using all the rank and file members plat transfers to hide the dirty transfers, so many transfers that it flooded the logs.

I'm sure TMO rank and file members realized early on after the leaders disapeared from the red guild what happened and they were up shits creek, but by then cross server transfers were closed and they probably even petitioned the GM's for help before being offered.

Dude read what I posted and shut the fuck up.

[Xaanka]

about offering the rank and file members the ability to transfer back to blue?

Because the GM's saw how TMO leadership abused rank and file members, using all the rank and file members plat transfers to hide the dirty transfers, so many transfers that it flooded the logs.

I'm sure TMO rank and file members realized early on after the leaders disapeared from the red guild what happened and they were up shits creek, but by then cross server transfers were closed and they probably even petitioned the GM's for help before being offered.

the GM's never offered the rank and file members an xfer back to blue. i am talking about the GM's unfreezing the blue guild bank assets and then giving Darkdeath/Zee a GM facilitated 1 time Xfer of the funds to red. which they were going to do, until the guild split.

at least address what I'm talking about. you're strawmanning.

[TheDuck]

Dude read what I posted and shut the fuck up.

caught

[TheDuck]

TMO leadership probably bout the dirtiest people i ever met on this box.

[T7g]

Loly has 0 droppables on blue because we were committed to red.

Hell, I have better gear on blue than on red.

[Xaanka]

darkdeath has no motivation to rmt, i'm not gonna post anything personal about him but i will say he does very well for himself and doesn't need internet videogame money lol

[Ruinous]

This thread is real embarrassing.

I'm sorry OP, but DD and Zeelot are not poor like you and have no interest in selling elf money to pay their rent for a month.

[TheDuck]

i bet, they flush as hell from kunark era.

[T7g]

i bet, they flush as hell from kunark era.

Many millions of plat, yes.

If I may...

TMO basically locked down "Circlet of Shadows" (First dropped we sold for 120k) and "Locket of Escape" and also "Necklace of Superiority" when Kunark came out.


There was an instance where the devs made a mistake and "Locket of Escape" dropped again. (Devalued the item but whatever~)


We also sold epic MQ's.

In the end, all sales on blue were in anticipation of going to red.

No RMT, that's laughable to be honest. TMO has been on p99 since August 4th, 2010.

We had ridic amounts of items. I won a pre-nerf fungi staff in a trivia event, shit I am really good at winning GM events. I'm still owed a Firepots bind on blue that I don't even need.

[Uuruk]

Many millions of plat, yes.

If I may...

TMO basically locked down "Circlet of Shadows" (First dropped we sold for 120k) and "Locket of Escape" and also "Necklace of Superiority" when Kunark came out.


There was an instance where the devs made a mistake and "Locket of Escape" dropped again. (Devalued the item but whatever~)


We also sold epic MQ's.

In the end, all sales on blue were in anticipation of going to red.

No RMT, that's laughable to be honest. TMO has been on p99 since August 4th, 2010.

We had ridic amounts of items. I won a pre-nerf fungi staff in a trivia event, shit I am really good at winning GM events. I'm still owed a Firepots bind on blue that I don't even need.

What was selling all of this in anticipation for????

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219406

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214226

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216995

All after Blue>Red transfers were made illegal.

Just like looking at all the plat in the bank knowing there will never be another expansion or really any content to spend that platinum on?

[T7g]

Because TMO members were wrongly banned on blue, a _one_time_ 3:1 transfer from BLUE TO RED would have happened.

That is why we liquidated.

No RMT, and I'm sure the GMs don't want me saying this- but we are NOT RMTING!

TMO "fell apart" and the transfer never happened afaik.


No matter what, it makes no sense to transfer to red to RMT.

[Uuruk]

Because TMO members were wrongly banned on blue, a _one_time_ 3:1 transfer from BLUE TO RED would have happened.

That is why we liquidated.

No RMT, and I'm sure the GMs don't want me saying this- but we are NOT RMTING!

TMO "fell apart" and the transfer never happened afaik.


No matter what, it makes no sense to transfer to red to RMT.

I'm a little confused by this. All the threads i linked were created after Blue>Red transfers were made illegal. So how exactly were you going to transfer the plat to red?

[T7g]

I'm a little confused by this. All the threads i linked were created after Blue>Red transfers were made illegal. So how exactly were you going to transfer the plat to red?

All blue TMO had their accounts and most assets banned.

It was due to things I cannot talk about.

Because of that, we were offered a 3:1 blue to red.

We didn't take that, the plat- that is.

Also the admins are +++

[Uuruk]

All blue TMO had their accounts and most assets banned.

It was due to things I cannot talk about.

Because of that, we were offered a 3:1 blue to red.

We didn't take that, the plat- that is.

Also the admins are +++

Rofl, what a joke.

Did they also offer all the peoples accounts and gear back that Derubael banned and RMT"d off? Probably not.

[Xaanka]

Rofl, what a joke.

Did they also offer all the peoples accounts and gear back that Derubael banned and RMT"d off? Probably not.

they have recovered peoples' accounts on a case by case basis when presented with sufficient proof, i am aware of several.

[T7g]

http://i.imgur.com/nVKZj3D.gif

[Xaanka]

http://49.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb4mmzPi5p1rf3nyro1_250.gif

[AzzarTheGod]

In the end, all sales on blue were in anticipation of going to red.

No RMT, that's laughable to be honest. TMO has been on p99 since August 4th, 2010.

We had ridic amounts of items. I won a pre-nerf fungi staff in a trivia event, shit I am really good at winning GM events. I'm still owed a Firepots bind on blue that I don't even need.

Its just not buyable to me because of the way TMO half-assed Red. "Anticipation of going to red" Then what did you do? You guys acted really weird on red. The leadership was making half-ass decisions, going AFK repeatedly for weeks, and just crash-dummied the guild seemingly intentionally. This weird behavior started a few months before Velious and then just went full blown insanity in the weeks leading up to Velious launch.

The way TMO behaved after the transfer is just too suspicious for me in the aftermath. This is the only thing giving Agatha a lot of credibility here for me and others.

I find you to be incredible and everything you have said so far doesn't answer Agatha's question or the big question. It is just too bizarre to overlook the situation as a whole, and not just a few months here, or a few months there of TMO's life on red. When you put the entire picture together, it comes off as eerie, creepy and even scummy.

[Beastagoog]

Lol TMO were RMT kingpins on blue; you really think it changed on Red?

You think logging out 30+ alts full raid buffed with soulfires in VS room was to deny another guild a pair of DW legs or to sell em for PP to another guild?

Everyone rags on about Nizzar/Nilly been some rmt overlord guild....they have nooooooo idea.

[Xaanka]

you're reading too far into things

https://38.media.tumblr.com/971f7acd2caa5943ec9564be3d4d40d1/tumblr_mn4hzw3H671spbtxxo1_500.gif

[AzzarTheGod]

TMO "fell apart" and the transfer never happened afaik.



Now you are making some sense. The whole "fell apart", when taking the entirety of circumstances into account with the transfers, the life of TMO on red, the behavior of TMO leadership, oh and did I mention the transfers?

I'm going to take a break from reading your bs, and maybe I'll rethink your responses tomorrow.

[Xaanka]

http://static2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/5013804+_3cfc8bd3adc91e736ef3644c5dbac173.gif

[AzzarTheGod]

All blue TMO had their accounts and most assets banned.

It was due to things I cannot talk about.

Because of that, we were offered a 3:1 blue to red.

We didn't take that, the plat- that is.

Also the admins are +++

Like I said. Eerie, creepy, and now leaning towards scummy.

This is a walking & talking freakshow at this point. Agatha can take it from here.

[Xaanka]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/79/cd/68/79cd6872990d84a6af0a28c226386dc0.gif

[Xaanka]

http://i.imgur.com/FthRBFP.png

[T7g]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/4a61d89019bda1f3a6cd33fbca94ea07/tumblr_mxdfuoNplv1t1h700o5_250.gif

[Beastagoog]

Although only a personal example:

a co leader of TMO called Durison and his wife Fefifofum stripped a bunch of TMO guild bank toons and accounts they had access to and RMTed it off as they quit and TMO leadership tried to supress this infomation instead of been open to what happened for fear of reprisal considering they as a guild had just come off the MQ delevel punishment (bunch of toons were deleveled for people using MQ in their guild).

[Smedy]

tmo gettin their snouts snipped by the duckman, quack quack motherfuckers

[Beastagoog]

Its ancient history now but.

[Xaanka]

http://orig05.deviantart.net/4511/f/2014/355/3/9/dude__nobody_cares__by_sash_anime_s_p-d8ap5lb.jpg

[Redi]

Anime gross

[quido]

HAHA YOU STUPID FUCKS I MADE MILLIONS

[Seltius]

Rogean has already shown he has no problem with dragging TMO through the mud long before the Empire call out of 2015 post. So I don't think the GMs would hesitate to make it public knowledge if TMO officers were RMTing and I think the level of scrutiny they have all been under is more than adequate for any but the most desperate trolls.

[Ella`Ella]

The real story is so much better than you kids can speculate.

/end

[derpcake]

i went through this thread looking for proof and drama

nothing was found

fuck OP

[derpcake]

The real story is so much better than you kids can speculate.

/end

in the same way pantheon will be

neither this story nor pantheon has any supporting proof to substantiate such a claim, but its the interweb!

this is gonna rock

[Xaanka]

The real story is so much better than you kids can speculate.

/end

http://i.imgur.com/ucO2JBa.jpg

[AzzarTheGod]

The real story is so much better than you kids can speculate.

/end

Thanks for stating the obvious.

[TheDuck]

Thanks for stating the obvious.

lol

[Redi]

http://i.imgur.com/ucO2JBa.jpg

Lol