Is Donald Trump unintelligent or just dishonest?

[wts]

He can't really believe the things he says, can he?

[Stasis01]

Have you watched his speeches on youtube and not just the snipits from places trying to bash him?

He makes a lot of sense to me, watch a few of his speeches, it's very refreshing to have someone actually speak his mind and not just read a boring PC speech.

I am Canadian btw so I don't even get to vote but I find US politics very entertaining and would vote trump just for the fact that he isn't bought off by special interests.

[Swish]

i like him

[Madbad]

He is smart enough to win unfortunatly.

[Pokesan]

neither, he's an actor.

do you also get mad at batman ?

[Madbad]

neither, he's an actor.

do you also get mad at batman ?

perfect

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

i like him

[Lune]

There's no doubt he's at least moderately intelligent, but nothing special. If you look at the performance of his enterprises, and weigh it with the opportunities he had being born into enormous wealth, he's a very mediocre businessman at best. Honestly I'd be embarrassed to be Trump and campaign on the strength of my business acumen when I know deep down I'm a trust fund baby and there are people like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Larry Page out there with actual skill and vision.

He is dishonest. I can only guess how many illegal immigrants he has employed cleaning his hotels. He's not serious about fixing immigration. Build a wall? You can tell when someone isn't serious about fixing immigration when they propose something like that. A wall is powerful imagery, but it's ultimately extremely ineffective. Great Britain has the English fucking Channel and how well does that work for them? A wall also does nothing for the tens of millions that are already here, and trust me, Trump is not going to deport millions of people. States wouldn't cooperate, Congress wouldn't cooperate, and he has no realistic plan to fund such a massive operation. If you want to stop immigration, you have to target the employers that hire them. They don't come here for freedom, they come here for economic reasons, and if that impetus isn't there, they don't come. We saw that when immigration fell off a cliff during the great recession, and we see that as hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees bypass the Balkan states, Spain, and Italy, to get to the thriving socialist Nordic states.

But guess what? The employers are, by and large, the people who control the politicians, and they have a vested economic interest in retaining immigrant labor and the resulting wage depression. So the same thing will happen that has been happening for decades; politicians will make a lot of rhetoric about immigration, but they won't do anything that is actually effective, because their corporate owners don't want them to... even though real, substantive immigration reform has bipartisan support among your typical middle class white.

I still believe Trump was only running for this election to further his personal brand, as he did in the last election, and he was surprised by his success, which stemmed from the entire Republican field being extremely weak, without a single good candidate, and from wide bipartisan support for tough immigration rhetoric.

I agree with some of his rhetoric, but that's all it is... rhetoric. What you have left is a deeply toxic and negative person, which are qualities unfit for presidency.

[James_Joyce]

I could make the same thread about Bernie, would have a perfect example with his disgustingly transparent muh 14 dollar minimum wage gibs shilling instead of avoiding making any substantive arguments like TRUMP forced you to do with this shitty little thread, and it would be far more relevant. I can guarantee you that Bernstein is aware it's an absolutely idiotic policy to drastically raise the minimum wage when untold/unwashed masses of unskilled, intellectually-stunted Garbage-Americans are already unemployable at the current minimum, but that a pollster employee of his correctly calculated that it would perk up the ears of many dependent welfare queens and give him a shot at the election. Or I could bring up "free libarts education for everyone". vomits in mouth To me, those are real choices between dishonesty and stupidity.

Have you heard the practiced, embarrassingly obvious robodrone everyone but TRUMP lapses into during the debates? They're just repeating the same shit lines their handlers fed them, which they said into the mirror 500 times before the debate in stark terror that they might slip on a word, collapse completely, and lose favor with their masters. They're children studying for a test. Meanwhile, TRUMP is completely destroying people left and right with improvised ripostes and fluid, natural rhetoric from the position of honest comfort and self-confidence that his self-built wealth and power provides. The man is literally the only adult on either stage (other than Hillary, a fully mature adult cockroach of exceptional size).

PS: lol @ "mediocre businessman" above. Is that one of MSNBC's talking points this month?

[Pokesan]

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[AzzarTheGod]

Pokesan killin it lol

[quido]

Trump is trolling you fucking idiots.

[TheDuck]

im voting for trump, i feel like he will set good policy on ducklings.

[wts]

Have you watched his speeches on youtube and not just the snipits from places trying to bash him?

He makes a lot of sense to me, watch a few of his speeches, it's very refreshing to have someone actually speak his mind and not just read a boring PC speech.

I am Canadian btw so I don't even get to vote but I find US politics very entertaining and would vote trump just for the fact that he isn't bought off by special interests.

Ok but he insists that thousands of people in New Jersey were cheering when the WTC towers came down, which has been categorically proven to be untrue. Also, what are your plans for Discord?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Ok but he insists that thousands of people in New Jersey were cheering when the WTC towers came down, which has been categorically proven to be untrue. Also, what are your plans for Discord?

Can't speak for NJ but I can tell you it was on the local news when I lived in MA.

[AzzarTheGod]

^

I live in the tri-state area as well, and I absolutely remember it being on the news and on the internet news wire (stuff like yahoo, msn). Was it a reuters/AP article? Probably not, but this report hit multiple outlets.

In fact thinking of it now, I definitely remember this being a water-cooler conversation piece too.

Seems the pundits are trying to split hairs and insinuating that if theres no NYT article and no Washington Post article on the subject, then it didn't happen. That is absurd, and shame on Megyn Kelly for piling on. Not watching her anymore after tonight. And I'm not even a Trump guy, I just prefer fair and balanced coverage of the candidates. At least Sean Hannity has a memory and pushed back on it.

The "anchors" and opinion shows are doing the trolling here, if anything, and trying to start killing off his campaign momentum, as expected.

Again, not a Trump guy, I'm just not blind and deaf and happened to watch/read the news post 9/11 like most literate Americans in the vicinity of the attacks. I do hope Trump can pull some connections and get those local network news reels out of the archives and get yahoo and other wires to do some digging. Just so Trump can have a big "fuck you" to the gross opportunistic dogpile from both dems and repubs.

[entruil]

if trump wins california is going to break into the ocean and he gunna put his wall around it instead.... then send all people he calls criminals to it ... then his daughter is going to steal super remote control and give it to the california leader

trump will then inject a fake death virus into snakes blood to get it back....



its funny how the only options are victimhood pushers and authoritarians...

apparently freedom is a disease in this country now

[am0n]

He is dishonest.

As is every politician. Hillary is a perfect example of dishonest. Using a personal server for government/classified e-mails and then obfuscating the fuck out of it when she was caught. Any of us peons would be thrown in jail for breaching national security; she just gets a slap on the wrist and is allowed to run for president.

[Bazia]

ill vote trump if he wins nomination cuz i dont like hillary's face

as is my right

[wts]

They don't come here for freedom, they come here for economic reasons, and if that impetus isn't there, they don't come. We saw that when immigration fell off a cliff during the great recession, and we see that as hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees bypass the Balkan states, Spain, and Italy, to get to the thriving socialist Nordic states.

Good post but you really need to watch past episodes of Vice on HBO. A lot of immigration is not the result of economic factors. The US deports foreign-born gang members who then organize and terrorize their countries of origin. Vice is mainstream media. They pull in over a billion dollars a year in advertising revenue. They're getting a cable news network. This isn't conspiracy theory. They actually interview people who are in transit across Mexico, where female immigrants are routinely raped. They're coming to the US for physical security, not economic reasons exclusively.

Same thing in Syria. Obama is sitting in the white house having a jolly old time watching drones bomb the shit out of Syria. The proxy war in Syria has made habitation unsafe. Thus the mass migration to Europe. It's about physical security, the ability to coninue to be alive. Economics is part of that, but it's not the whole story.

this shitty little thread

You seem mad. I would be too if I supported someone who is so obviously incompetent. I'm not mad at Trump. The level of support he has received confirms everything I've always suspected about the average intelligence of my fellow humans. I don't really have a dog in this fight because I don't participate in the political process. Electronic voting machines cannot be audited, so democracy is the intellectual property of companies like Diebold that manufacture them and create the proprietary software that runs them. But you seem super invested.

[wts]

There are people in this thread who seem to be saying that because some urban myth was propagated about people celebrating in New Jersey when the WTC came down that a presidential candidate is under no greater responsibility to fact check those myths than the posters in this thread. There were some kids in New Jersey who committed vandalism and made asses of themselves because they got out of school early due to 9/11:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjzcWcas2Ss

That's it. If there were thousands and thousands of people celebrating the destruction of the WTC, don't you think there would be archival footage of it?

[creamypeanutbutter]

There's no doubt he's at least moderately intelligent, but nothing special. If you look at the performance of his enterprises, and weigh it with the opportunities he had being born into enormous wealth, he's a very mediocre businessman at best. Honestly I'd be embarrassed to be Trump and campaign on the strength of my business acumen when I know deep down I'm a trust fund baby and there are people like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Larry Page out there with actual skill and vision.

He is dishonest. I can only guess how many illegal immigrants he has employed cleaning his hotels. He's not serious about fixing immigration. Build a wall? You can tell when someone isn't serious about fixing immigration when they propose something like that. A wall is powerful imagery, but it's ultimately extremely ineffective. Great Britain has the English fucking Channel and how well does that work for them? A wall also does nothing for the tens of millions that are already here, and trust me, Trump is not going to deport millions of people. States wouldn't cooperate, Congress wouldn't cooperate, and he has no realistic plan to fund such a massive operation. If you want to stop immigration, you have to target the employers that hire them. They don't come here for freedom, they come here for economic reasons, and if that impetus isn't there, they don't come. We saw that when immigration fell off a cliff during the great recession, and we see that as hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees bypass the Balkan states, Spain, and Italy, to get to the thriving socialist Nordic states.

But guess what? The employers are, by and large, the people who control the politicians, and they have a vested economic interest in retaining immigrant labor and the resulting wage depression. So the same thing will happen that has been happening for decades; politicians will make a lot of rhetoric about immigration, but they won't do anything that is actually effective, because their corporate owners don't want them to... even though real, substantive immigration reform has bipartisan support among your typical middle class white.

I still believe Trump was only running for this election to further his personal brand, as he did in the last election, and he was surprised by his success, which stemmed from the entire Republican field being extremely weak, without a single good candidate, and from wide bipartisan support for tough immigration rhetoric.

I agree with some of his rhetoric, but that's all it is... rhetoric. What you have left is a deeply toxic and negative person, which are qualities unfit for presidency.

I love you Lune. People like you give me hope for humanity.

[maskedmelon]

which has been categorically proven to be untrue.

That is simply not possible. It is fine to remain skeptical of the claim, but countering with impossibility does not lend weight to your argument. The burden of proof rests in the claimant's hands.

[Kyff]

Ok but he insists that thousands of people in New Jersey were cheering when the WTC towers came down, which has been categorically proven to be untrue.

That is simply not possible. It is fine to remain skeptical of the claim, but countering with impossibility does not lend weight to your argument. The burden of proof rests in the claimant's hands.

It's kind of hard to prove that a certain incident has not happened. Should he bring fgootage of entire New Jersey from dusk till dawn? Such a thing (hopefully) does not exist.

If reported correctly Mr. Trump has claimed that he saw it and has been there. So the onus should be on him to prove that the incident has indeed happened as he witnessed it. On the other hand I'm wondering why he was in New Jersey celebrating with thousands of muslims while his home city has been attacked.

[Stasis01]

Whether thousands of people were celebrating is irrelevant, a lot of people celebrated it in other countries as well and his point that a huge portion of muslims hate the US is not inaccurate.

All of this has nothing to do with why he is appealing and I could care less if he makes fun of a retard, bashes some fucking stupid religion, or talks out of his ass sometimes.

He's obviously competent at running a business, is willing to take on people who try to bully him and make him change, takes on the corrupt media and is self funding his campaign so he owes nobody nothing.

Will he make greesey deals to further himself? Probably, and I'm sure he wants to do this for his legacy, but his views are in line with most of mine about how we need to stick up for ourselves and our culture not just bow down to everyone.

The media is obviously out to try to destroy him in hugely biased debates, the stories they say are manipulated. I hate the entire politically correct fake politician system more than I like Trump.

It's mainly a fuck you to the fake bought off self serving establishment for me.

[Stasis01]

Hillary Clinton raised $28 million in third quarter, just edging out Bernie Sanders. The inside track on Washington politics.
By Matea Gold and John Wagner September 30.
Hillary Rodham Clinton has raised $75 million so far for her 2016 presidential bid, including $28 million in the third quarter of this year.

Half of the reported money in the campaign so far has come from donations to groups outside the campaigns, like “super PACs,” that are not subject to limits.

Who is not sick of this garbage?

[Stasis01]

There's no doubt he's at least moderately intelligent, but nothing special. If you look at the performance of his enterprises, and weigh it with the opportunities he had being born into enormous wealth, he's a very mediocre businessman at best. Honestly I'd be embarrassed to be Trump and campaign on the strength of my business acumen when I know deep down I'm a trust fund baby and there are people like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Larry Page out there with actual skill and vision.

He is dishonest. I can only guess how many illegal immigrants he has employed cleaning his hotels. He's not serious about fixing immigration. Build a wall? You can tell when someone isn't serious about fixing immigration when they propose something like that. A wall is powerful imagery, but it's ultimately extremely ineffective. Great Britain has the English fucking Channel and how well does that work for them? A wall also does nothing for the tens of millions that are already here, and trust me, Trump is not going to deport millions of people. States wouldn't cooperate, Congress wouldn't cooperate, and he has no realistic plan to fund such a massive operation. If you want to stop immigration, you have to target the employers that hire them. They don't come here for freedom, they come here for economic reasons, and if that impetus isn't there, they don't come. We saw that when immigration fell off a cliff during the great recession, and we see that as hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees bypass the Balkan states, Spain, and Italy, to get to the thriving socialist Nordic states.

But guess what? The employers are, by and large, the people who control the politicians, and they have a vested economic interest in retaining immigrant labor and the resulting wage depression. So the same thing will happen that has been happening for decades; politicians will make a lot of rhetoric about immigration, but they won't do anything that is actually effective, because their corporate owners don't want them to... even though real, substantive immigration reform has bipartisan support among your typical middle class white.

I still believe Trump was only running for this election to further his personal brand, as he did in the last election, and he was surprised by his success, which stemmed from the entire Republican field being extremely weak, without a single good candidate, and from wide bipartisan support for tough immigration rhetoric.

I agree with some of his rhetoric, but that's all it is... rhetoric. What you have left is a deeply toxic and negative person, which are qualities unfit for presidency.

I don't understand the logic that a wall doesn't work. An illegal immigrant comes in by plane and stays, they eventually get caught and are deported. They cannot fly into the country again, and airports have massive security. They can't get over an unprotected border, what is the move? I don't get that can someone enlighten me.

Second, the fact that Trump is calling out illegal aliens is probably a strategy to earn votes in the southern states that are affected by it personally and are mostly republican states? The fact that he has hired them or didn't use them is also irrelevant because the idea is right.

According to PJ Media, the Texas DPS report found that from October 2008 to April 2014, 177,588 "unique criminal alien defendants" were booked and committed 611,234 unique crimes, including 2,993 murders:

Are those statistics lies you guys figure?

An open border policy makes no sense to me I don't even see how that's politically incorrect to say, although he used that fact to get media attention early on which worked really well.

[James_Joyce]

Ok but he insists that thousands of people in New Jersey were cheering when the WTC towers came down, which has been categorically proven to be untrue. Also, what are your plans for Discord?

Here's a link for you ya disproving the laughable establishment narrative of the last few days, little monkey. I hope you were 8 years old or less in 2001 if you actually didn't remember this.

TRUMP 100% Vindicated: CBS Reports ‘Swarm’ On Rooftops Celebrating 9/11 (http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/02/trump-100-vindicated-cbs-reports-swarms-on-roofs-celebrating-911/)

Now switch the TV off, it's fucking up your mind.

[James_Joyce]

I don't really have a dog in this fight because I don't participate in the political process. Electronic voting machines cannot be audited, so democracy is the intellectual property of companies like Diebold that manufacture them and create the proprietary software that runs them. But you seem super invested.

"You're stupid for not being apathetic about the inevitable destruction of your ancestors' civilization." Fuck off back to blacked.com. Apathy was cute around the middle school lunch table.

[Hoozi]

He plays the media like a harp, they take the bait every time.

[AzzarTheGod]

Here's a link for you ya disproving the laughable establishment narrative of the last few days, little monkey. I hope you were 8 years old or less in 2001 if you actually didn't remember this.

TRUMP 100% Vindicated: CBS Reports ‘Swarm’ On Rooftops Celebrating 9/11 (http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/02/trump-100-vindicated-cbs-reports-swarms-on-roofs-celebrating-911/)

Now switch the TV off, it's fucking up your mind.

Thank you. CBS is credible network news and they will have to respect it. Megyn Kelly can shut the fuck up now.

[Hoozi]

Here's a link for you ya disproving the laughable establishment narrative of the last few days, little monkey. I hope you were 8 years old or less in 2001 if you actually didn't remember this.

TRUMP 100% Vindicated: CBS Reports ‘Swarm’ On Rooftops Celebrating 9/11 (http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/02/trump-100-vindicated-cbs-reports-swarms-on-roofs-celebrating-911/)

Now switch the TV off, it's fucking up your mind.

Nice.

[Swish]

Hillary Clinton raised $28 million in third quarter, just edging out Bernie Sanders. The inside track on Washington politics.
By Matea Gold and John Wagner September 30.
Hillary Rodham Clinton has raised $75 million so far for her 2016 presidential bid, including $28 million in the third quarter of this year.

Half of the reported money in the campaign so far has come from donations to groups outside the campaigns, like “super PACs,” that are not subject to limits.

Who is not sick of this garbage?

lol at donating money for Presidential campaigns

[B4EQWASCOOL]

lol at donating money for Presidential campaigns

Not much else is more of a waste of money...

[iruinedyourday]

Thank you. CBS is credible network news and they will have to respect it. Megyn Kelly can shut the fuck up now.

hehe wait were celebrating that trump is the kind of presidential candidate that gets his information from the evening news?

Real qualfied mother fucker right here ladies and gents, real qualified.

[Swish]

Not much else is more of a waste of money...

It seems pretty obvious from an outsider looking in that Hilary Clinton is your next president and it's been decided already :/

[Pokesan]

It seems pretty obvious from an outsider looking in that Hilary Clinton is your next president and it's been decided already :/

I think Paris sealed it for Clinton. Bad luck.

[AzzarTheGod]

Real qualfied mother fucker right here ladies and gents, real qualified.

So qualified :o

warm fuzzy feeling

[Madbad]

It seems pretty obvious from an outsider looking in that Hilary Clinton is your next president and it's been decided already :/

shit...

[AzzarTheGod]

Jeb Bush has a strong shot with his connections and political machine.

The Paris attacks really hurt Hillary. Another terror attack will completely sink her (What if another bush towers happens? no way Hillary is electable after that. People vote for a strong military in times of insecurity).

I'm sure the tinfoil crowd is expecting another steel beams collapse to make this a Jeb VS Hillary blowout.

Her narrative as Secretary was that ISIS is contained, Al-Qaeda is decimated, and extremism is on the decline/run.

[James_Joyce]

There's nothing that can challenge Hillary's narrative. Hillary is the candidate for people who don't bother with such nonsense. Her voter base doesn't even know what the secretary of state does, let alone care to evaluate her performance at the job.

[iruinedyourday]

Who is Hillary?

[AzzarTheGod]

Good post Big J, hadn't thought of it that way.

[Stasis01]

If Clinton or Bush win you really need to worry because that's almost a guarantee it's rigged. It might be.

[Kyff]

Here's a link for you ya disproving the laughable establishment narrative of the last few days, little monkey. I hope you were 8 years old or less in 2001 if you actually didn't remember this.

TRUMP 100% Vindicated: CBS Reports ‘Swarm’ On Rooftops Celebrating 9/11 (http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/02/trump-100-vindicated-cbs-reports-swarms-on-roofs-celebrating-911/)

Now switch the TV off, it's fucking up your mind.

The report clearly says: "Police were called to the building by neighbors and found eight men celebrating, six of them tenants in the building." PLease explain the difference of at least 1992 persons between eight men celebrating and alleged thousands.

[myriverse]

If Clinton or Bush win you really need to worry because that's almost a guarantee it's rigged. It might be.
Bush perhaps. Clinton's the most popular candidate currently running.

[Whirled]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7goA_DnGIbU

Roughing it for some is Motel 6 apparently.

[wts]

That is simply not possible. It is fine to remain skeptical of the claim, but countering with impossibility does not lend weight to your argument. The burden of proof rests in the claimant's hands.

Exactly. Trump is the claimant. He claims that thousands were celebrating in New Jersey. Not one piece of evidence exists to substantiate this claim. The burden lies on Trump to present a factual basis for his urban myth. I can see why you're a trump supporter. You're oblivious to the stupidity of the words coming out of your own mouth.

Whether thousands of people were celebrating is irrelevant.

It goes to credibility, a key component of a presidential election. It couldn't be more relevant. Of course people were celebrating in other countries. They hate America. That's irrelevant. It has nothing to do with Trump propagating urban myths.

Here's a link for you ya disproving the laughable establishment narrative of the last few days, little monkey. I hope you were 8 years old or less in 2001 if you actually didn't remember this.

TRUMP 100% Vindicated: CBS Reports ‘Swarm’ On Rooftops Celebrating 9/11 (http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/02/trump-100-vindicated-cbs-reports-swarms-on-roofs-celebrating-911/)

Wow there are some stupid human beings posting in this thread. The news report says that eight men were on a rooftop celebrating. Can you please tell me how you get thousands and thousands out of eight men? 100% vindicated!

[maskedmelon]

Exactly. Trump is the claimant.

Very good, allahu akbar

You have become better at Observation! (1)

Next!

[ronasch]

The report clearly says: "Police were called to the building by neighbors and found eight men celebrating, six of them tenants in the building." PLease explain the difference of at least 1992 persons between eight men celebrating and alleged thousands.

It's common core math.

[Swish]

Are we saying the truth is being twisted in the media? Say it isn't so.

[Kyff]

It's common core math.

That's the point. How should someone unable to calculate this common core math be trusted to control a budget of much bigger figures?

D.T: "We have a deficit of three billion this year. Not too bad."
Unknown aide: "Uh. No, Mr. President. That's three trillion."
D.T. (shrugs): "Whatever. At least I'm well off personally."

(Disclaimer: The numbers are fictional and shall in no way depict real figures under a possible Trump administration)

[James_Joyce]

Exactly. Trump is the claimant. He claims that thousands were celebrating in New Jersey. Not one piece of evidence exists to substantiate this claim. The burden lies on Trump to present a factual basis for his urban myth. I can see why you're a trump supporter. You're oblivious to the stupidity of the words coming out of your own mouth.



It goes to credibility, a key component of a presidential election. It couldn't be more relevant. Of course people were celebrating in other countries. They hate America. That's irrelevant. It has nothing to do with Trump propagating urban myths.



Wow there are some stupid human beings posting in this thread. The news report says that eight men were on a rooftop celebrating. Can you please tell me how you get thousands and thousands out of eight men? 100% vindicated!

News reported a "swarm" of unknown count celebrating originally. This was paired with imagery of thousands celebrating abroad. There were also some Mossad arrested who were seen celebrating that day, reported separately.

You seem quite invested in accusing anyone who doesn't care to split hairs about thousands celebrating 9/11 in NJ, when in fact millions no doubt celebrated it around the world and the news reported extensively on that, with pictures, in the war-drum leadup to our interventions for Israel, of being retarded. Let me guess: the talmudvision told you Bernstein will spend us out of our crushing debt, and you believed it. See, the difference between us is that I was stupid enough to watch TV back then, and so I know exactly what the Don is talking about, while you're stupid enough to still be watching TV today.

[Lurikeen]

Donald Trump is a bag of hot gas. Once he's elected, he's going to blow the largest stinker out his ass such that even his disciples will hold their noses in disgust.

Oh, and don't think for a second that I'll vote for any liberals. They're all worse than Trump.

[AzzarTheGod]

See, the difference between us is that I was stupid enough to watch TV back then, and so I know exactly what the Don is talking about, while you're stupid enough to still be watching TV today.

Big J dropping pearls of wisdom.

[iruinedyourday]

Donald Trump is a bag of hot gas. Once he's elected, he's going to blow the largest stinker out his ass such that even his disciples will hold their noses in disgust.

Oh, and don't think for a second that I'll vote for any liberals. They're all worse than Trump.

you literally think sanders is worse than trump because of antiquated propaganda induced fear generated over 70 years ago.

Its pretty sad.

[Lurikeen]

you literally think sanders is worse than trump because of antiquated propaganda induced fear generated over 70 years ago.

Its pretty sad.

No, I think Sanders is worse than Trump because he's a confessed socialist. Oh, and he tossed his socialist wing of the Democrat party under the bus so he could garner more votes. Although, that didn't work.

[James_Joyce]

I would never speak ill of Lord TRUMP myself, but Lurikeen's on the right track here.

[iruinedyourday]

No, I think Sanders is worse than Trump because he's a confessed socialist.

you literally think sanders is worse than trump because of antiquated propaganda induced fear generated over 70 years ago.

Its pretty sad.

[James_Joyce]

you literally think sanders is worse than trump because of antiquated propaganda induced fear generated over 70 years ago.

Its pretty sad.

Socialism only works with closed borders and ultranationalism, and in that form it has been known as Nazism. A functional ideology, but perhaps not everyone's cup of tea.

Anything else is straight up national suicide, and the tens of millions who died to show us that are not "70 year old propaganda".

[Lurikeen]

you literally think sanders is worse than trump because of antiquated propaganda induced fear generated over 70 years ago.

Its pretty sad.

Instead of repeating yourself, and trying to avoid the bare fact that Sanders IS a socialist, maybe you should read this article from Salon and try to get a grip. Hiding your head in the sand about Sander's socialism is a bit idiotic, even for you.

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/21/the_truth_about_bernie_sanders_socialism_everythin g_you_need_to_know_about_the_candidates_mould_brea king_political_philosophy/

[iruinedyourday]

Socialism only works with closed borders and ultranationalism, and in that form it has been known as Nazism.

lol a liberal says, "hey lets have a police force paid for by the taxes we collect"

"YOU NAZI!" the ignorant vocal minorety of amerca yell.

"hey these police are shooting innocent people!" the liberal suddenly realises.

"HOW DARE YOU SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT OUR POLICE" the ignorant minorety cries.

america IS a socialist country you nitwits.

[James_Joyce]

lol a liberal says, "hey lets havea police force that paid for by the taxes we collect"

"YOU NAZI!" the ignorant vocal minorety of amerca yell.

"hey these police are shooting innocent people!" the liberal suddenly realises.

"HOW DARE YOU SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT OUR POLICE" the ignorant minorety cries about.

america IS a socialist country you nitwits.

What are you even talking about? A modern liberal doesn't believe in nationalism or closed borders or even protecting his own blood and the legacy of his ancestors whatsoever. They're far from Nazis and I never claimed they were.

[iruinedyourday]

Im not discussing your drug induced paranoia with you.

Simply put:

If you are afraid of socialism you are both misinformed and a coward.

[Lurikeen]

Im not discussing your drug induced paranoia with you.

Simply put:

If you are afraid of socialism you are both misinformed and a coward.

Yeah, you nailed it. :rolleyes:

[James_Joyce]

Im not discussing your drug induced paranoia with you.

Simply put:

If you are afraid of socialism you are both misinformed and a coward.

I always write more than 4 sentences when the post is drug-induced. Consider this post your decoder ring.

This is just you losing an argument.

[iruinedyourday]

No this is me realising no matter how much I try to explain to a turtle, that he is a turtle, its still going to sit there looking stupid.

[James_Joyce]

IRYD's entire account could be an AI that posts random nonsequiturs and logical fallacies in reply whenever it sees itself quoted. Is that you smarterchild?

[iruinedyourday]

IRYD's entire account could be an AI that posts random nonsequiturs and logical fallacies in reply whenever it sees itself quoted. Is that you smarterchild?

Your IQ's gotta be this high to ride the forumquestunator.

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[Stasis01]

It goes to credibility, a key component of a presidential election. It couldn't be more relevant. Of course people were celebrating in other countries. They hate America. That's irrelevant. It has nothing to do with Trump propagating urban myths.


I bet the boston marathon bombers were celebrating 911.

[Stasis01]

9/11/2001 USA New York, NY 2752 251 Islamic hijackers steer two planes packed with fuel and passengers into the World Trade Center, killing hundreds on impact and eventually killing thousands when the towers collapsed. At least 200 are seriously injured.
3/19/2002 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course.
5/27/2002 USA Denton, TX 1 0 Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard.
7/4/2002 USA Los Angeles, CA 2 0 Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people.
9/5/2002 USA Clinton, MD 1 0 A 55-year-old pizzaria owner is shot six times in the back by Muslims at close range.
9/21/2002 USA Montgomery, AL 1 1 Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one.
9/23/2002 USA Baton Rouge, LA 1 0 A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers.
10/2/2002 USA Wheaton, MD 1 0 Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot.
10/3/2002 USA Montgomery County, MD 5 0 Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period.
10/9/2002 USA Manassas, VA 1 1 A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
10/11/2002 USA Fredericksburg, VA 1 0 Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas.
10/14/2002 USA Arlington, VA 1 0 A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot.
10/22/2002 USA Aspen Hill, MD 1 0 A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers.
8/6/2003 USA Houston, TX 1 0 After undergoing a 'religious revival', a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4" butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man.
4/15/2004 USA Scottsville, NY 1 2 In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested.
6/16/2006 USA Baltimore, MD 1 0 A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim medical student in an unprovoked terror attack.
6/25/2006 USA Denver, CO 1 5 Saying that it was 'Allah's choice', a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
7/28/2006 USA Seattle, WA 1 5 An 'angry' Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.
1/1/2008 USA Irving, TX 2 0 A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their 'Western' lifestyle.
7/6/2008 USA Jonesboro, GA 1 0 A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
2/12/2009 USA Buffalo, NY 1 0 The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
4/12/2009 USA Phoenix, AZ 2 0 A man shoots his brother-in-law and another man to death after finding out that they visited a strip club, in contradiction to Islamic values.
6/1/2009 USA Little Rock, AR 1 1 A Muslim shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center explicitly in the name of Allah.
11/2/2009 USA Glendale, AZ 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.' (10-20-09)
11/5/2009 USA Ft. Hood, TX 13 31 A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers while yelling praises to Allah.
12/4/2009 USA Binghamton, NY 1 0 A non-Muslim Islamic studies professor is stabbed to death by a Muslim grad student in revenge for 'persecuted' Muslims.
4/14/2010 USA Marquette Park, IL 5 2 After quarrelling with his wife over Islamic dress, a Muslim convert shoots his family members to 'take them back to Allah' and out of the 'world of sinners'.
4/30/2011 USA Warren, MI 1 0 A 20-year-old woman is shot in the head by her stepfather for not adhering to Islamic practices.
9/11/2011 USA Waltham, MA 3 0 Three Jewish men have their throats slashed by Muslim terrorists.
1/15/2012 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 30-year-old Christian convert is shot to death by a devout Muslim for helping to convert his daughter.
11/12/2012 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 28-year-old American man is shot to death by a conservative Muslim over an alleged role in converting a woman to Christianity.
2/7/2013 USA Buena Vista, NJ 2 0 A Muslim targets and beheads two Christian Coptic immigrants.
3/24/2013 USA Ashtabula, OH 1 0 A Muslim convert walks into a church service with a Quran and guns down his Christian father while praising Allah.
4/15/2013 USA Boston, MA 3 264 Foreign-born Muslims describing themselves as 'very religious' detonate two bombs packed with ball bearings at the Boston Marathon, killing three people and causing several more to lose limbs.
4/19/2013 USA Boston, MA 1 1 Jihadists gun down a university police officer sitting in his car.
8/4/2013 USA Richmond, CA 1 0 A convert "on a mission from Allah" stabs a store clerk to death.
3/6/2014 USA Port Bolivar, TX 2 0 A Muslim man shoots his lesbian daughter and her lover to death and leaves a copy of the Quran open to a page condemning homosexuality.
4/27/2014 USA Skyway, WA 1 0 A 30-year-old man is murdered by a Muslim fanatic.
6/1/2014 USA Seattle, WA 2 0 Two homosexuals are murdered by an Islamic extremist.
6/25/2014 USA West Orange, NJ 1 0 A 19-year-old college student is shot to death 'in revenge' for Muslim deaths overseas.
9/25/2014 USA Moore, OK 1 1 A Sharia advocate beheads a woman after calling for Islamic terror and posting an Islamist beheading photo.
7/16/2015 USA Chattanooga 5 2 A 'devout Muslim' stages a suicide attack on a recruiting center at a strip mall and a naval center which leaves five dead.
12/2/2015 USA San Bernardino, CA 14 17 A 'very religious' Muslim shoots up a Christmas party with his wife, leaving fourteen dead.

[Stasis01]

I heard about the girl who took two minutes to die at the Boston Marathon, she knew she was dying.

Islamic extremists probably thought that was right and righteous, oh no Trump might have exaggerated the story a bit ohhh nooo his credibility.

Islam and all religions are bullshit.

[Stasis01]

A Muslim U.S. citizen and his wife burst into his office holiday party with assault rifles and tactical clothing, massacred 14 and injured 17 before they were both shot dead in a police chase through suburban San Bernardino.

PUBLISHED: 19:49 GMT, 2 December 2015 | UPDATED: 14:42 GMT, 3 December 2015

Only yesterday? holy shit.

[Bazia]

trump offers some of the most disingenuous and transparent lowest common denominator pandering I have witnessed in my 20 something years on this planet

but I will vote for him if he gets nominated by the repubs because I am so disgusted with the democrats after the past 8 years of voting for them

[iruinedyourday]

Stacey, there isnt enough room on the internet to list the shootings perpitrated by non muslims in the usa alone.

Also bernie sanders is also sick of the democrats. So u should think about that bazia

[wts]

You seem quite invested in accusing anyone who doesn't care to split hairs about thousands celebrating 9/11 in NJ, when in fact millions no doubt celebrated it around the world.

Keep moving those goal posts buddy! You'll get them in the path of the football eventually!

The issue is that Trump said thousands of New Jersey residents celebrated the collapse of the towers. He's accusing a substantial fraction of the population of northern NJ of being unamerican. Why are you so fucking stupid that you can't grasp the subject matter of this thread?

[wts]

Big J dropping pearls of wisdom.

Except that I don't subscribe to cable television. But keep huggin them nuts!

Socialism only works with closed borders and ultranationalism, and in that form it has been known as Nazism.

Nazi Germany was a fascist government, not a socialist government. But hey, they called it socialism so it must be socialism right! Fascism is the merging of political power with economics. Fritz Thyssen was the steel monopolist who financed Hitler's rise to power in germany. Fascism is the most anti-labor form of government. It sublimates the interests of labor to the interests of capital. In Nazi Germany this was taken to the extreme of sending jews and other targeted populations to concentration camps. What were these camps? They were certainly death camps for those who had outlived their usefulness, but those who could work were used as slave labor in mines for the benefit of Germany's economic elite. IBM provided Germany with punch card technology so they could keep track of the former occupations of the slaves to make the work camps more efficient:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

I would have expected you to know all that since you don't watch tv.

[wts]

I bet the boston marathon bombers were celebrating 911.

Were there thousands of them? Did they celebrate in New Jersey? If not, I'm failing to see the relevance to this thread.

[Stasis01]

Were there thousands of them? Did they celebrate in New Jersey? If not, I'm failing to see the relevance to this thread.

Fox has an interview I posted in my other thread of New Jersey Muslims saying that Sharia Law is above the us constitution because it came from god.

I can't relate to a guy like you who doesn't get the point but nitpicks the details.

There could have been easily thousands of people celebrating it, but you're making an argument about proof and he didn't see it with his own eyes and a bunch of nonsense. You just aren't getting it I guess.

[Stasis01]

Stacey, there isnt enough room on the internet to list the shootings perpitrated by non muslims in the usa alone.

Also bernie sanders is also sick of the democrats. So u should think about that bazia

So just let this shit religion do what it wants because we must be tolerant and accepting, because the religion is about peace and love.

Give me a fucking break, I don't care if there are 1/100 deaths by a violent brainwashing religion, address it.

If Christians started offing people all the time and it was known to be radicalising them in churches people would flip their shit.

[wts]

I can't relate to a guy like you who doesn't get the point but nitpicks the details.

Have you read the title of this thread? Does it say anything about Sharia law? This thread is about integrity and accuracy. Thanks for letting us know that those things are not important to you.

There could have been easily thousands of people celebrating it, but you're making an argument about proof and he didn't see it with his own eyes and a bunch of nonsense. You just aren't getting it I guess.

Strawman logical fallacy. I never said word one about Trump seeing it with his own eyes. If there were thousands of people present, somebody would have taken a picture of it. No picture exists because it didn't happen. It's too bad you're so untalented at forumquest.

[James_Joyce]

Jeb Bush has a strong shot with his connections and political machine.

The Paris attacks really hurt Hillary. Another terror attack will completely sink her (What if another bush towers happens? no way Hillary is electable after that. People vote for a strong military in times of insecurity).

I'm sure the tinfoil crowd is expecting another steel beams collapse to make this a Jeb VS Hillary blowout.

Her narrative as Secretary was that ISIS is contained, Al-Qaeda is decimated, and extremism is on the decline/run.

There's nothing that can challenge Hillary's narrative. Hillary is the candidate for people who don't bother with such nonsense. Her voter base doesn't even know what the secretary of state does, let alone care to evaluate her performance at the job.

New relevant Mark Dice video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp6PKA_QXQ8)

[Tasslehofp99]

Ok but he insists that thousands of people in New Jersey were cheering when the WTC towers came down, which has been categorically proven to be untrue. Also, what are your plans for Discord?

Just want to say that you're wrong about this particular thing. I don't vote, I don't feel that any of the candidates properly represent me.

But there is one thing I can say for 100% certainty: After the WTC towers fell, there were folks who appeared to be middle-easterners who were definitely cheering, dancing in the streets, and throwing parties. I saw it with my own eyes in/around New York City and in my hometown in the suburbs. People were not happy about it and there were even assaults on such groups of animals.

Don't have to believe me, I don't personally care what you think. It's clear that you believe anything that you see online or in the news from your post that I quoted. I know what I saw with my own eyes and so do thousands others who saw these animals celebrating the taking of thousands of innocent lives. Time to wake up, dude.

[Stasis01]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/02/trump-100-vindicated-cbs-reports-swarms-on-roofs-celebrating-911/

There's evidence that people were celebrating, but he'll just debate the thousands part.

[Stasis01]

"swarming with suspects celebrating"

[Swish]

John McCain, Mitt Romney, Donald Trump... what do they all have in common?

They all represented minority and borderline strange views, certainly from an outside/Brit perspective that would make them hard to elect.

John McCain's platform was basically "more GW Bush" things from what I remember and the electorate were tired of Iraq etc.

Mitt Romney just seemed bizarre.

Donald Trump won't have many non-white voters, or certainly not enough to win Democrat strongholds.

Hilary Clinton wins folks.... just an outsider's viewpoint free of endless TV debating and all the crazy stuff.

[iruinedyourday]

Bernie will win.

[Pokesan]

i'd rather trump than hillary

one is funny the other is depressing as shit

[wts]

Don't have to believe me, I don't personally care what you think. It's clear that you believe anything that you see online or in the news from your post that I quoted. I know what I saw with my own eyes and so do thousands others who saw these animals celebrating the taking of thousands of innocent lives. Time to wake up, dude.

Were there thousands of them? Did you take a picture? Again, I don't watch the news, so your statement has no validity. Did any of those thousands of people take a picture? No? Sounds like an urban legend to me. If it wasn't an urban legend, there would be, you know, actual evidence. You seem kind of dumb. Don't believe I'd take your word on just about anything.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/02/trump-100-vindicated-cbs-reports-swarms-on-roofs-celebrating-911/

There's evidence that people were celebrating, but he'll just debate the thousands part.

You're still linking the hard hitting journalism about the "swarm" of eight guys on a roof? Nobody is debating that people were celebrating. The number of people who are celebrating was the only point of contention. Maybe you're in the wrong thread?

[iruinedyourday]

Guys trump will corporatize the internet and make you pay twice as much for only approved web pages using the patriot act kek nuff said.

[Psionide]

Its a shame. I used to actually like trump because he knocked out Vince McMahon but now since he entered politics he's killed any slight admiration I had for him. Trump please get out of politics and go back to the wwe and reality television.

[Stasis01]

Were there thousands of them? Did you take a picture? Again, I don't watch the news, so your statement has no validity. Did any of those thousands of people take a picture? No? Sounds like an urban legend to me. If it wasn't an urban legend, there would be, you know, actual evidence. You seem kind of dumb. Don't believe I'd take your word on just about anything.



You're still linking the hard hitting journalism about the "swarm" of eight guys on a roof? Nobody is debating that people were celebrating. The number of people who are celebrating was the only point of contention. Maybe you're in the wrong thread?

Hahahah.

yeah if the debate is whatever criteria you make I guess you'll never be wrong.

The guy doesn't have pictures of each grp celebrating totaling thousands therefore the proof there is of people celebrating is irrelevant and doesn't prove the hatred muslims have towards us.

Gotcha, the smug way you talk and the stupid shit you say makes me believe you are a huge loser, but I don't have the picture proof so you can deny it.

[azeth]

Donald Trump is actually a Democrat who is running as a Republican to purposefully throw the election for the Clinton family to take office a second time.

How do I know he's a Democrat? His entire fortune was built on real estate, which throughout the later half of the 20th century was heavily backed, if not corrupted, by Government assistance.

How do I know he's purposefully trying to throw the election? Well based on literally everything he's done so far.

[Lurikeen]

Donald Trump is actually a democrat who is running as a Republican to purpose throw the election for the Clinton family to take office a second time.

^ This is truth.

[Stasis01]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd52KkFwQWQ

Pockets of celebrating, some in queens, some in jersey. Police commissioner?

[Stasis01]

Donald Trump is actually a Democrat who is running as a Republican to purposefully throw the election for the Clinton family to take office a second time.

How do I know he's a Democrat? His entire fortune was built on real estate, which throughout the later half of the 20th century was heavily backed, if not corrupted, by Government assistance.

How do I know he's purposefully trying to throw the election? Well based on literally everything he's done so far.

He's right that the donors control the system, media is biased and controlled, we are soft and politically incorrect and he isn't bought off.

His numbers rape everyone elses, he's obviously not favored by the establishment(a huge bonus)

How is he throwing it?

[azeth]

How is he throwing it?

he's so radicalized on some issues that it is a certainty he will not win over swing states.

Ohio is not voting for the guy who said to ban Muslim travel.

[Stasis01]

Have another 9/11 happen and you'll be surprised.

He's right.

[Stasis01]

I'm hearing Trump is disqualified though, eesh I didn't think the system was this rigged haha.

god help us.

[Stasis01]

Oh I guess the White House can't disqualify anyone and it's just their views.

If you hate the system this will only push you to Trump even more.

GO TRUMP.

[wts]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd52KkFwQWQ

Pockets of celebrating, some in queens, some in jersey. Police commissioner?

I guess Chris Christie must be a smug loser too since he says Trump is inaccurate and there's no video of thousands of celebrators.

[James_Joyce]

I guess Chris Christie must be a smug loser too since he says Trump is inaccurate and there's no video of thousands of celebrators.

this dogshit has already been debunked. Not that it even really needed to be if you were actually alive and paying attention around 9/11 to see the large amount of reporting on celebrations of America's wound around the world.

It's amazing how tenaciously the hypnotized cling to retarded narratives like "TRUMP's not a successful businessman cuz bankruptcy" and "TRUMP lied about thousands celebrating in NJ even though there were multiple reports of celebrations in the New York area on major mainstream news, and a lot of related reporting on celebrations abroad which included tens of thousands burning flags in the streets". They'll split hairs and stretch the truth to see this highly successful and intelligent man and brilliant debater as an incompetent buffoon, while never questioning absurdly silly policy promises like $14/hr minimum wage and unrestricted free college for everyone when college degrees are already almost worthless. Not to mention ignoring the outright pandering to BLM and other billionaire-funded pseudo-grassroots "activist" divide-and-conquer movements that clearly demonstrates all of the Dem candidates are establishment pawns.

TRUMP's policy, promises, and tone all stand up to scrutiny so the spin machine desperately pumps energy and money into febrile television misinformation campaigns that center on Clintonian minutiae like "you can't prove that there were more than the hundreds known and documented celebrating in NJ, therefore saying thousands is an outright lie." An actual, earnest discussion of this race would center more on the absurd elementary school tier policies (when i grow up im gonna be da pressident & make money illegal so u wont have to worry ever again, mommy) and more-of-the-same being offered by every single candidate but TRUMP, but instead we have one side of the spin machine accusing TRUMP of being a liberal, and the other accusing him of being Literally Hitler. The last time both halves of the single ugly beast that reigns over us came together to shit on a candidate, his name was Ron Paul. Unfortunately for them, TRUMP has a very strong personal brand and highly skilled and savvy internet campaigners, many of whom do it for free like myself.

Wake up retards: whatever TRUMP's shortcomings may be, he represents the destruction of the narrative that has been used to drive the submissiveness of all mainstream political positions present in modern Western civilization. He represents the ability to discuss solutions that inconvenience foreigners for the benefit of Americans, without being easily destroyed with the Trotskyite charge of "racism".

The stakes for this election are quite literally: will we ever escape Political Correctness and into a world where common sense can be spoken without destruction coming to the speaker, or are the modern Orwellian smoke and mirrors and fundamental deceptions about who the President is and by what process he makes his decisions to be a permanent institution? Is the will of the People still strong enough to overcome tyranny by information control, or has our skill at manipulating each other finally outstripped the strength of the human spirit?

It is written that the latter will eventually become the case, and I believe it. I'm just hoping we can salvage the last few good years humankind may see before the long and very nasty dark age that will ensue once big data science gets off the ground.

[Fael]

There's no doubt he's at least moderately intelligent, but nothing special. If you look at the performance of his enterprises, and weigh it with the opportunities he had being born into enormous wealth, he's a very mediocre businessman at best. Honestly I'd be embarrassed to be Trump and campaign on the strength of my business acumen when I know deep down I'm a trust fund baby and there are people like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Larry Page out there with actual skill and vision.

You actually have no clue what you are talking. His father was a successful contractor and developer in new york. Trump took advantage of his fathers success, sure. However, he did FAR FAR better than his father.

At his father's death in 1999, he was worth about 300 million. By 1999, Trump had already earned more than a billion, lost a lot of it, and then earned it again. Today he is worth 4.5 Billion, which is 15 times more than his father.

Trump is obviously a smart guy as he went to Warton, one of the hardest MBA programs in the county. Sure it wasn't as hard to get in as today, but it still suggests that he was a fairly smart guy.

Personally I would be embarrassed to speak so dogmatically from a position of complete ignorance.

All that said, I do not beleive donald believes half the shit he says. He is taking a gamble and will probably loose. But in the end, he has more political gravitas now than as when he started his campaign.

He will always have political followers from now on.

[wts]

this dogshit has already been debunked.

Really? Can I get a link to a photo of thousands of people celebrating? I'll settle for a picture of 100 people celebrating. It's no wonder you play elf sim. You live your whole life in fantasy land.

[Oooruk]

Trump, even if elected, will not change the status quo.

His entire campaign consists of stating vague generalities that the disaffected and marginalized want to hear. There is no substance in anything he says.

Why are these people marginalized? The importation of US imperial policies to the domestic shores. It began with Nixon and the abolition of Bretton Woods, and it really took off under Reagan, and was sustained by the two Bushes, Clinton and Obama. To think that someone like Trump will fix this in a country where the majority of "voters" (notice no one uses the word citizen anymore) have no say in their countries policies is asinine.

[Lune]

You actually have no clue what you are talking. His father was a successful contractor and developer in new york. Trump took advantage of his fathers success, sure. However, he did FAR FAR better than his father.

At his father's death in 1999, he was worth about 300 million. By 1999, Trump had already earned more than a billion, lost a lot of it, and then earned it again. Today he is worth 4.5 Billion, which is 15 times more than his father.

Trump is obviously a smart guy as he went to Warton, one of the hardest MBA programs in the county. Sure it wasn't as hard to get in as today, but it still suggests that he was a fairly smart guy.

Personally I would be embarrassed to speak so dogmatically from a position of complete ignorance.

All that said, I do not beleive donald believes half the shit he says. He is taking a gamble and will probably loose. But in the end, he has more political gravitas now than as when he started his campaign.

He will always have political followers from now on.

I don't know where you are getting the idea that I said he didn't do better than his father, because that has nothing to do with my post. I also didn't deny Trump was a smart guy. The privileged children of rich parents often are.

What I said was he inherited anywhere from 40-200 million dollars from his father, and you'd have to be a complete fucking idiot to not do well for yourself with that much money to invest. In fact, Trump would be wealthier right now had he simply invest his money S&P 500 (http://www.businessinsider.com/how-donald-trump-couldve-got-rich-without-trying-2015-9) instead of being a mediocre businessman.

Also keep in mind how much more difficult it is to work your way from nothing to $300 million, than from $300 million into the billions. It's far easier to make money when you have significant amounts of assets and capital available.

[iruinedyourday]

There's no doubt he's at least moderately intelligent, but nothing special. If you look at the performance of his enterprises, and weigh it with the opportunities he had being born into enormous wealth, he's a very mediocre businessman at best. Honestly I'd be embarrassed to be Trump and campaign on the strength of my business acumen when I know deep down I'm a trust fund baby and there are people like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Larry Page out there with actual skill and vision.



qft

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

http://i.imgur.com/ftVcxQF.jpg

[Pokesan]

http://i.imgur.com/ftVcxQF.jpg

are you actually this retarded

[Pokesan]

trump is compared to hitler based on political ideas, not dog or mustache opinions

juicebox rot for sure

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

trump is compared to hitler based on political ideas, not dog or mustache opinions

juicebox rot for sure

All of the memes I've seen lately start with the combover.

[Pokesan]

i am not at all saying trump is hitler, i am saying kagatob is a bad poster

:cool:

[Lune]

trump is compared to hitler based on political ideas, not dog or mustache opinions

juicebox rot for sure

Man you know Hitler has really become a caricature when people are comparing him to a capitalist simply because they are both intolerant. This dude's character has really been lost to time.

Hitler fucking hated everything Trump stands for

[Pokesan]

You just described a similarity they can be compared on

I will however reiterate - I'm only here to shame Kagatob into posting better or not posting at all. Perhaps a poll should happen!

:cool:

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

It wouldn't be the first poll with my name on it.

[wts]

You just described a similarity they can be compared on

I will however reiterate - I'm only here to shame Kagatob into posting better or not posting at all. Perhaps a poll should happen!

:cool:

You're not exactly setting the forums on fire here.

[Pokesan]

You're not exactly setting the forums on fire here.

Neither are you ;)

[Whirled]

http://i2.wp.com/www.youngcons.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/carsonmeme.jpg?resize=600%2C600

[iruinedyourday]

Man you know Hitler has really become a caricature when people are comparing him to a capitalist simply because they are both intolerant. This dude's character has really been lost to time.

Hitler fucking hated everything Trump stands for

I think it's the fact the Donald Trump gets up to the podium smacks it and screams and points and yells and blames all of our problems on the minority either Mexican or Muslim.

I'm sure Hitler would agree with u tho, he doesn't like how Trump flip-flops from which minority he wants to put in concentration camps.

And just saying if the only thing you remember from Hitler is it economic policy, you kind a got some problems ;)

[sOurDieSel]

rofl @ iryd trying to bend history to fit his SJW narrative.

Stick to parroting Salon&Huffpo and leave revisionism to the big boys.

Trump 2016- Deport them all because concentration camps cost to much to run.

[iruinedyourday]

rofl @ iryd trying to bend history to fit his SJW narrative.

Stick to parroting Salon&Huffpo and leave revisionism to the big boys.

Trump 2016- Deport them all because concentration camps cost to much to run.

Im sorry hitler did not ride zebras and save jesus christ from the devil like you might remember from your lack of going to elementary school cus your parents didn't pay any attention to you while you played on the dirt floor of your non-mobile mobile home.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Im sorry hitler did not ride zebras and save jesus christ from the devil like you might remember from your lack of going to elementary school cus your parents didn't pay any attention to you while you played on the dirt floor of your non-mobile mobile home.

This people, is what being wrong and angry looks like.

[iruinedyourday]

This people, is what being wrong and angry looks like.

put a fork you you son, you are done. You're random terrible arguments are just that, terrible.

[am0n]

*frothing from the mouth*

Get this girl a rabies shot!

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

put a fork you you son

Yeah ok

[AzzarTheGod]

I'm sure Hitler would agree with u tho, he doesn't like how Trump flip-flops from which minority he wants to put in concentration camps.

And just saying if the only thing you remember from Hitler is it economic policy, you kind a got some problems ;)

Hitler did everything in the name of economic policy, so yeah its all I remember.

The concentration camps were labor camps for the Wehrmacht. The entire country was organized around the Wehrmacht, from top to bottom, you know fascism?

It was a way to get some free labor and create opportunities for small businesses and non-Jews by removing the Jews from the cities and taking their property and businesses away.

The term concentration camp is often used interchangeably by douches to insinuate death camps, which is incorrect. The "death camps" were invented not by Hitler, nor did he have full knowledge and realization of what Himmler was doing in Poland. Very few people were in any state of mind to understand what Himmler was doing, as the country was in complete chaos and turmoil, starving from supply lines being decimated towards the end of the war. The high command was in a full nervous break down when Himmler decided to push the insanity over the edge.

All his policies had to have some type of economic benefit to the country, that was sort of his entire campaign platform...

[iruinedyourday]

Hitler did everything in the name of economic policy, so yeah its all I remember.

The concentration camps were labor camps for the Wehrmacht. The entire country was organized around the Wehrmacht, from top to bottom, you know fascism?

It was a way to get some free labor and create opportunities for small businesses and non-Jews by removing the Jews from the cities and taking their property and businesses away.

The term concentration camp is often used interchangeably by douches to insinuate death camps, which is incorrect. The "death camps" were invented not by Hitler, nor did he have full knowledge and realization of what Himmler was doing in Poland. Very few people were in any state of mind to understand what Himmler was doing, as the country was in complete chaos and turmoil, starving from supply lines being decimated towards the end of the war. The high command was in a full nervous break down when Himmler decided to push the insanity over the edge.

All his policies had to have some type of economic benefit to the country, that was sort of his entire campaign platform...

Im sorry but this is fucking bull shit. He used economic policy to kill the jews. That ***** wanted nothing but the jews to die and for himself to be worshipd like a god.

Youre just posting shit you copypista from the 1,000 year reich.

You are being a gross troll for even troll standards and you should be ashamed.

[James_Joyce]

Im sorry but this is fucking bull shit. He used economic policy to kill the jews. That ***** wanted nothing but the jews to die and for himself to be worshipd like a god.

and the civil war was 100% about slavery. good thing the good guys (internationalist jewish financiers) won both times, amirite?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Good or evil aside, Adolf Hitler was one of the greatest leaders in the history of the planet. Nobody before or since had taken a nation in such shambles and brought it up to global superpower in less than a decade.

It took communism and capitalism teaming up to take that power out.

Compare to Obama who had done fuck all nothing in 8 years and blames it all on Bush, who's damage to this nation was something the Germans of the 1920s would have happily inherited.

[Pokesan]

thanks obama

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

But facts be racist amirite?

[Pokesan]

opinions be racist

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

They can be, yes.

[Pokesan]

yours are

[James_Joyce]

proudly presenting fax be rayciss, the latest subversive original content by jaymerica industries

https://i.imgur.com/kRj0rVG.png

[iruinedyourday]

proudly presenting fax be rayciss, the latest subversive original content by jaymerica industries

https://i.imgur.com/kRj0rVG.png

you guys call looking at the surface, without the content facts.

Like this is the math 1+2-4+3 = 2

and you go off and say 1+2= 2

Does this make senes? use the left part of your brain that helped you come up with your defense as to what trump 'meant' when he said thousands of muslims were cheering at 9/11 to fucking figure out my point, ya animals.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

That's the falsest, false equivalency ever. Of all time.

[James_Joyce]

you guys call looking at the surface, without the content facts.

Like this is the math 1+2-4+3 = 2

and you go off and say 1+2= 2

Does this make senes? use the left part of your brain that helped you come up with your defense as to what trump 'meant' when he said thousands of muslims were cheering at 9/11 to fucking figure out my point, ya animals.

so what im getting from this is that indeed, facks and basic rithmuhdick do indeed be rayciss.


https://i.imgur.com/kRj0rVG.png

[iruinedyourday]

hmm I'm trying to figure out how to explain it clearly.. but basically its like, there are A WHOLE BUNCH OF CAUSES as to why the facts you think are racist, are facts at all..

like the war on drugs, if you look at it objectively, you see WHY black people are targeted, and you see how black people being targeted causes more black people to be targeted because of the results of being targeted in the first place.

its like the chicken and the egg, only we have the ability to objectively figure out which came first.

but instead, we are just saying KILL THE CHICKEN EAT THE EGGS WHO CARES

continue using the parts of your left brain that manage to work when you are defending trump

[James_Joyce]

hmm I'm trying to figure out how to explain it clearly.. but basically its like, there are A WHOLE BUNCH OF CAUSES as to why the facts you think are racist, are facts at all..

like the war on drugs, if you look at it objectively, you see WHY black people are targeted, and you see how black people being targeted causes more black people to be targeted because of the results of being targeted in the first place.

its like the chicken and the egg, only we have the ability to objectively figure out which came first.

but instead, we are just saying KILL THE CHICKEN EAT THE EGGS WHO CARES

continue using the parts of your left brain that manage to work when you are defending trump

Yeah okay but what I was really looking for was for you to quote like below and compliment me on my skillful wordplay today. that is an original thing I just made up:


rithmuhdick

also I just noticed when quoting it that the post number is 2133666. it's really quite an exquisite post.

[iruinedyourday]

<3 u bb

[Lurikeen]

like the war on drugs, if you look at it objectively, you see WHY black people are targeted, and you see how black people being targeted causes more black people to be targeted because of the results of being targeted in the first place.

Yeah, man. Like.. they targeted black people which caused more targeting of black people... and soon enough even more black people were targeted causing more to be targeted, but that wasn't good enough so they started targeting the targeting of black people and with targets being targeted for targeting, it was a wholesale war on targeting the targets of targeting targeting black people who were being targeted for being targets. Man, your revelation is heavy dude.

[Oooruk]

Good or evil aside, Adolf Hitler was one of the greatest leaders in the history of the planet. Nobody before or since had taken a nation in such shambles and brought it up to global superpower in less than a decade.

It took communism and capitalism teaming up to take that power out.

Not really. The business community of the United States LOVED Hitler and his fascism because it was essentially an extreme form of capitalism. In fact American companies continued to support the the Nazi regime well after Roosevelt had made it illegal to do so.

You also have to remember that the Wests' (Britain + USA) main strategy in WWII was to let the Germans and Russians destroy each other. Hitler's worst mistake was to turn on Russia, this essentially insured the destruction of Nazi Germany. Once mutual destruction had been completed, the West moved in to clean up the remnants of the German army (the storming of Normandy). The Russians defeated the Germans, not Britain and not the USA

Yeah, man. Like.. they targeted black people which caused more targeting of black people... and soon enough even more black people were targeted causing more to be targeted, but that wasn't good enough so they started targeting the targeting of black people and with targets being targeted for targeting, it was a wholesale war on targeting the targets of targeting targeting black people who were being targeted for being targets. Man, your revelation is heavy dude.
I don't know if you've ever examined anything critically but a quick look at the "War on Drugs" will surely reveal itself to be a "War on the Poor".

[James_Joyce]

Hitler's worst mistake was to turn on Russia, this essentially insured the destruction of Nazi Germany

This is how I know you don't know shit about WW2.

Germany and the Soviet Union both knew that their ideologies were mutually exclusive. Both were planning on the destruction of the other. Stalin was purging and doing all of his crazy shit to get the Soviet empire into fighting shape.

Hitler pre-emptively struck Soviet troops which were massing for invasion along the German-Soviet border. There was no "poking the bear" or grand mistake like you learned in middle school. There was strike first, or be struck. If Germany hadn't made an effort to be on the offensive and burning Soviet capital cities before they could organize for war, Germany never would have stood a chance against the Soviets, who had the benefit of vast material support from abroad when compared with Germany.

This entire mythos stems from the Germany as a mad dog fabrication. Germany neither instigated WW2 nor made insane, rabid aggressive decisions. The country was backed into a corner, like every country is that attempts to govern based on the will of its people instead of the will of international finance. Crazy shit started going down as Nazi gains evaporated and the imminent destruction and death of the entire fascist regime became evident, but the idea that they were a collective of drooling bloodthirsty maniacs from 1933 on is war propaganda for the lowest common denominator.

[Oooruk]

This is how I know you don't know shit about WW2.

Germany and the Soviet Union both knew that their ideologies were mutually exclusive. Both were planning on the destruction of the other. Stalin was purging and doing all of his crazy shit to get the Soviet empire into fighting shape.

Hitler pre-emptively struck Soviet troops which were massing for invasion along the German-Soviet border. There was no "poking the bear" or grand mistake like you learned in middle school. There was strike first, or be struck. If Germany hadn't made an effort to be on the offensive and burning Soviet capital cities before they could organize for war, Germany never would have stood a chance against the Soviets, who had the benefit of vast material support from abroad when compared with Germany.

This entire mythos stems from the Germany as a mad dog fabrication. Germany neither instigated WW2 nor made insane, rabid aggressive decisions. The country was backed into a corner, like every country is that attempts to govern based on the will of its people instead of the will of international finance.
Oh my.

[James_Joyce]

Oh my.

Yeah sure, admitting that people will do crazy things when their survival is on the line is genocide apologism that can be wiped away with a quick exclamation.

People like you, not people like me, are the reason it will happen again.

[AzzarTheGod]

This entire mythos stems from the Germany as a mad dog fabrication. Germany neither instigated WW2 nor made insane, rabid aggressive decisions. The country was backed into a corner, like every country is that attempts to govern based on the will of its people instead of the will of international finance. Crazy shit started going down as Nazi gains evaporated and the imminent destruction and death of the entire fascist regime became evident, but the idea that they were a collective of drooling bloodthirsty maniacs from 1933 on is war propaganda for the lowest common denominator.

Bingo. Most of the "lore and legend of the mad dog" are little extracts and anecdotes selectively taken out of context, with the intent to make people gawk bug-eyed and shiver and shake with a wool blanket wrapped around them at midnight by the fireplace when watching their Talmudvision documentary on A&E.

Believe this phenomenon is referred to as worshiping the "Idol of Terror" according to the Old Testament. Deriving pleasure and a sense of security in their homes from being spoonfed a concentrated microcosm of some bad stuff.

[Oooruk]

Yeah sure, admitting that people will do crazy things when their survival is on the line is genocide apologism that can be wiped away with a quick exclamation.

People like you, not people like me, are the reason it will happen again.

No.

What you posted is so delusional, void of logic and contradictory to the facts that partaking in a discussion of it is akin to partaking in a discussion of the existence of unicorns.

[James_Joyce]

No.

What you posted is so delusional, void of logic and contradictory to the facts that partaking in a discussion of it is akin to partaking in a discussion of the existence of unicorns.

It's void of logic to think the entirety of Fascist Germany, the most results-oriented and scientifically governed state in the history of mankind, the state that invented color film and sent us to the moon, went to war for concrete material reasons that can be demonstrated by a quick trip to wikipedia? And it's logical to think that every single German was infected with some kind of rabid bloodthirst?

Your brain is scrambled perhaps beyond repair my friend. Clap your hands over your ears and call me a Nazi now (i'm not).

[James_Joyce]

Believe this phenomenon is referred to as worshiping the "Idol of Terror" according to the Old Testament. Deriving pleasure and a sense of security in their homes from being spoonfed a concentrated microcosm of some bad stuff.

Interedasting, I'll have to read up on this.

[Lune]

James Joyce is right in many ways.

WW1, and WW2 (Which was WW1 part 2) stemmed ultimately from British foreign policy designed to prevent any single other power from dominating the European continent, while Britain used its naval power and massive economy to basically rape the rest of the world. WW1 was nothing short of Imperial belligerence, with Germany committing no worse crimes than Britain did. It's ridiculous to single out Germany as Imperial aggressors when the Soviets (British and US allies at the time) annexed Estonia, Riga, Latvia, and as much of Finland as they could grab, and the British had aggressively conquered nearly the entire world. Nothing shows how little Britain actually cared about the fate of the Polish people like the great betrayal of the Warsaw Uprising several years later. It was all just a big chess game.

Again in the lead-up to WW2 Germany noticed just how badly it had been assraped by Britain and friends, but Hitler should have stopped with the reoccupation of the Rhineland, annexation of the Sudetenland, and anschluss of Austria. The decision to invade Poland and start WW2 basically ended European hegemony over Earth, and fascism, which ended up being terrible for everyone involved. We're left with mass market consumer capitalism which is basically destroying humanity and the planet.

[Madbad]

Trump may be The President we deserve.

[James_Joyce]

^^this is pretty accurate. The invasion of Poland was one of the primary decision points of the war that could be considered a mistake.

I would contend that it still wasn't exactly a blunder of a mistake, as the Germans wanted to capitalize on their momentary leads economically and in the arms race. If they hadn't struck at this time, the documented international aggression toward Nazi Germany would surely have escalated the situation to war at a later time which would have rendered prospects of Nazi victory even more distant, and continued servitude in internationalist debt slavery a guarantee.

It's like when you're in a 1v3 situation in a single combat type of game like CS. Musashi says to strike out at your enemies in the order they are attacking, to string them up like a line of fish and take them one at a time, to prevent them from converging upon you and triangulating your demise. You're still not likely to win that 1v3, but aggression remains the soundest strategic decision.

[Oooruk]

WW1, and WW2 (Which was WW1 part 2) stemmed ultimately from British foreign policy designed to prevent any single other power from dominating the European continent, while Britain used its naval power and massive economy to basically rape the rest of the world. WW1 was nothing short of Imperial belligerence, with Germany committing no worse crimes than Britain did. It's ridiculous to single out Germany as Imperial aggressors when the Soviets (British and US allies at the time) annexed Estonia, Riga, Latvia, and as much of Finland as they could grab, and the British had aggressively conquered nearly the entire world. Nothing shows how little Britain actually cared about the fate of the Polish people like the great betrayal of the Warsaw Uprising several years later. It was all just a big chess game.

Again in the lead-up to WW2 Germany noticed just how badly it had been assraped by Britain and friends, but Hitler should have stopped with the reoccupation of the Rhineland, annexation of the Sudetenland, and anschluss of Austria. The decision to invade Poland and start WW2 basically ended European hegemony over Earth, and fascism, which ended up being terrible for everyone involved. We're left with mass market consumer capitalism which is basically destroying humanity and the planet.
Oh I quite agree. Britain was a monstrous imperial entity, as was the Soviet Union and much as the United States is today. My original statement was that the invasion of Russia was a strategic mistake on the part of Germany. People seem to disagree with me, which is quite silly. That move ensured the destruction of their regime.

[James_Joyce]

My original statement was that the invasion of Russia was a strategic mistake on the part of Germany. People seem to disagree with me, which is quite silly. That move ensured the destruction of their regime.

Waiting for the Soviets to mass and fighting a defensive war would have provided an even surer guarantee of destruction. Your entire argument hinges on the idea that Stalinist Russia would never aggress against Germany if left to harden up after the great purge, which is laughably stupid.

Germany invaded when Russia was at its weakest and working to strengthen for an invasion, with inexperienced fresh officer corps and freshly purged military leadership.

[Lune]

^^this is pretty accurate. The invasion of Poland was one of the primary decision points of the war that could be considered a mistake.

I would contend that it still wasn't exactly a mistake, as the Germans wanted to capitalize on their momentary leads economically and in the arms race. If they hadn't struck at this time, the documented international aggression toward Nazi Germany would surely have escalated the situation to war at a later time which would have rendered prospects of Nazi victory even more distant, and continued servitude in internationalist debt slavery a guarantee.

It's debatable. Nazi Germany would have been the first to create both nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles, technologies which were looted from Germany or the German scientific community during and after the war.

The scientific revolution that created the core of modern chemistry, physics, and biology, and laid the foundation for modern life, largely occurred in Germany in the early 1900's. Erwin Schrodinger, Max Planck, Werner van Braun, Werner Heisenberg, Wolfgang Pauli, Robert Koch, Niels Bohr, and Hendrik Lorrentz, were all either Germanic (Dutch/German/Austrian/Danish) nationals or residents of Germany. Both Einstein and J. Oppenheimer were German but had emigrated. If you've taken science classes you've heard these names.

http://i.imgur.com/lUcjfYg.jpg

[Oooruk]

Trump may be The President we deserve.

Well, you've had the boy emperor who succeeded in destabilizing an entire region of the globe to no one's benefit while simultaneously ruining the economy of richest and most powerful nation to ever exist on this planet. Then you had a president whose drone program is the most intense terrorist campaign the world has ever seen and ensured decades of blowback on your country that ordinary citizens will be baffled by. How much worse can a guy who recommends solutions that won't do anything to fix the problems America's middle class feels be?

[James_Joyce]

It's debatable. Nazi Germany would have been the first to create both nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles, technologies which were looted from Germany during and after the war.

The scientific revolution that created the core of modern chemistry, physics, and biology, largely occurred in Germany in the early 1900's. Max Planck, Werner van Braun, Werner Heisenberg, Wolfgang Pauli, Robert Koch, Niels Bohr, and Hendrik Lorrentz. were all either Germanic (Dutch/German/Austrian/Danish) nationals or residents of Germany. Both Einstein and J. Oppenheimer were German but had emigrated.

http://i.imgur.com/lUcjfYg.jpg

This is true. From what I've read of Nazi economics however, they were dependent on war industry and the seizure of assets to even keep government lights on. Supposedly the regime was on a very short rope financially and had a skyrocketing national debt.

I don't claim to know enough about economics to really fact check a statement like this and separate it from the mountains of propaganda but if true, it provides a motive for the hurry. Whether they could have sustained their 1939 leads over the world is debatable, to us and perhaps to them at the time.

[iruinedyourday]

IIf you've taken science classes you've heard these names.

to be fair every angsty teenager who thinks they know everything because of shows like ancient aliens and magical mystery science on the History channel know these names too....

[Lune]

This is true. From what I've read of Nazi economics however, they were dependent on war industry and the seizure of assets to even keep government lights on. Supposedly the regime was on a very short rope financially and had a skyrocketing national debt.

I don't claim to know enough about economics to really fact check a statement like this but if true, it provides a motive for the hurry. Whether they could have sustained their 1939 leads over the world is debatable, to us and perhaps to them at the time.

Operation Barbarossa was undoubtedly their best chance to defeat the Soviet Union, and they came surprisingly close (They encircled and destroyed something like 2 million Soviet soldiers in the opening part of the war).

One thing you have to consider is that it wasn't just Hitler who underestimated Stalin, it was the Allies as well. Given a bit more time, Britain and the US may have been more reluctant to side with the Soviets against Germany for balance of power reasons (which was all they really cared about).

There was also the prospect of a gradual increase in tension between the US and Great Britain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red), if the British Empire hadn't fallen apart during and after WW2. Interesting to think about.

[Stasis01]

I guess Chris Christie must be a smug loser too since he says Trump is inaccurate and there's no video of thousands of celebrators.

Oh right I take it back, Chris Christie was appointed United States attorney September 10/2011 the day before the world changed as he put it. He would have the knowledge to put this to rest.

Oh wait.

Oh wait.

http://www.ibtimes.com/chris-christie-gets-key-fact-wrong-during-debate-over-nsas-surveillance-program-2043305

AND THE TRUTH, SHALL SET YOU FREE.

[Stasis01]

I'm sure fat bastard knew exactly what he was talking about and wasn't just attacking Trump.

[James_Joyce]

Oh right I take it back, Chris Christie was appointed United States attorney September 10/2011 the day before the world changed as he put it. He would have the knowledge to put this to rest.

Oh wait.

Oh wait.

http://www.ibtimes.com/chris-christie-gets-key-fact-wrong-during-debate-over-nsas-surveillance-program-2043305

AND THE TRUTH, SHALL SET YOU FREE.

holy shit, that is damning

[Swish]

There was a 100,000+ signature in Scotland trying to get Donald Trump banned from there - after some shit went down with him wanting to have a golf course.

[wts]

http://www.ibtimes.com/chris-christie-gets-key-fact-wrong-during-debate-over-nsas-surveillance-program-2043305

AND THE TRUTH, SHALL SET YOU FREE.

Sick burn. Got a link to the pictures of thousands of people celebrating?

[AzzarTheGod]

Again in the lead-up to WW2 Germany noticed just how badly it had been assraped by Britain and friends, but Hitler should have stopped with the reoccupation of the Rhineland, annexation of the Sudetenland, and anschluss of Austria. The decision to invade Poland and start WW2 basically ended European hegemony over Earth, and fascism, which ended up being terrible for everyone involved. We're left with mass market consumer capitalism which is basically destroying humanity and the planet.

Well said Lune.

These days, financial regulatory bodies are what comes to the minds of the masses when we talk about "curbing the evils of capitalism".

Unfortunately, financial regulatory agencies and legislation of more finance law do absolutely nothing to address the inherent flaws of the system. Muh FTC regulatshuns! Muh income redistribution. Muh SEC. Is all just casting a fog over the road we are really on.

We're just content focusing on the "financial" problems, the balance sheets, the next guys bank account, and who is paying their taxes offshore and who isn't- the side effects of the system, until the sellouts break themselves or the planet.

[Pokesan]

all trump supporters are unwitting hillary supporters

i just want to see the atomic fireworks, is that so much to ask?

[James_Joyce]

all trump supporters are unwitting hillary supporters

i just want to see the atomic fireworks, is that so much to ask?

speaking of hillary check out this shit i saw on a huffpo comments section (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/antonin-scalia-black-students_5668804ae4b009377b236c70?tlat6gvi) (lol i know)

https://i.imgur.com/GqiF7GB.png

am I tinfoil man or is this shit phony as hell? like seriously, the abs and the race card and the complete insanity partisanship come off as shilling to me so hard that i can't see anything but a robopost. and the guy works at a business address in my home town neighborhood?? is the illumanati sending me a message that they can have my grandmother raped???

[Oooruk]

This is true. From what I've read of Nazi economics however, they were dependent on war industry and the seizure of assets to even keep government lights on. Supposedly the regime was on a very short rope financially and had a skyrocketing national debt.

I don't claim to know enough about economics to really fact check a statement like this and separate it from the mountains of propaganda but if true, it provides a motive for the hurry. Whether they could have sustained their 1939 leads over the world is debatable, to us and perhaps to them at the time.

You are going to tell me that I know nothing about World War Two and then a few posts later insinuate that Germany had an economic and scientific lead over the world in 1939?

You need to do some serious research and critical thinking, and stop regurgitating pseudo-history you find on the internet.

[AzzarTheGod]

speaking of hillary check out this shit i saw on a huffpo comments section (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/antonin-scalia-black-students_5668804ae4b009377b236c70?tlat6gvi) (lol i know)

https://i.imgur.com/GqiF7GB.png

am I tinfoil man or is this shit phony as hell? like seriously, the abs and the race card and the complete insanity partisanship come off as shilling to me so hard that i can't see anything but a robopost. and the guy works at a business address in my home town neighborhood?? is the illumanati sending me a message that they can have my grandmother raped???

No tinfoil needed. Even the small cap private corporations have roboposters and subcontract farmers to shepherd the herd psychology pastures of the internet.

This has been exposed by private hacks of NGOs, and more specifically and recently, private security and private intelligence firms that work with the Chamber of Commerce. Our own government uses roboposting and herd psychology farmers (Dept of Justice was caught recommending to a lobbyist a good intelligence firm to run psyops for them in a series of emails).

Will provide link(s) if interested in smoking gun evidence. Evidence that ultimately resulted in earning a journalist a solid prison sentence for viewing/pooling said emails on a cloud archive for further research, where other journalists/plebs could view them. If you want to step up your perspective on how popular and lucrative herd farmers could be, this Chamber scandal I referenced is a good place to start. I'm not citing it because I don't have it offhand, and its technically off-topic, but just say the word Big J.

Before I even read your commentary, the spider sense had already gone off about 2/3 of the way through reading that comment. "Inorganic" would be a good start to describe the feeling.

[James_Joyce]

You are going to tell me that I know nothing about World War Two and then a few posts later insinuate that Germany had an economic and scientific lead over the world in 1939?

You need to do some serious research and critical thinking, and stop regurgitating pseudo-history you find on the internet.

they had a lead in the arms race, nerd. That's in the military/scientific sphere. i've already acknowledged their economy was flagging. and don't tell me your argument that there was no scientific lead in 1939 hinges on leading (german) scientists having emigrated by 1939. German aeronautics and chemistry and pharmacology were all leaps and bounds above the Allies in numerous ways even in 1945, even if there were technologies in the other bloc that the germans didnt share.

You don't have to be so butthurt about your American public school tier understanding of WW2. We've all been there. Although, in my own public school I learned that Nazis were mad scientists with long moustaches and loony superweapons.

Azzar, I'm being a little more coy than I really feel about this, that post is blatant shilling and I have little doubt about it. After witnessing reddit circa Torture Report I am ready to consider the possibility there are shills posting even here and keeping tabs on our macequest activities. I can't read anything, from youtube comments on news-related videos to mainstream algorithmically generated news to any message board larger than this one without the overwhelming sensation of being a mouse in a lab, my click reactions to experimental shilling psyops added to a database for the purpose of cracking the human psyche scientifically.

I haven't seen any good leaks from these scum though, other than the GCHQ dox. We taln bout this? (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/02/10/143419/lobbyists-chamberleaks/) Would be interedasted in seeing how these organizations work and how they define success when they aren't state actors with the ability to pull metadata from facebook.

[Jahdu]

To OPs question:

No, he's just a wanker!!!!

[Jahdu]

Oh and to those that support/like him, I have only one thing to say...

Do the world a favour and never reproduce.

K thx bye

[James_Joyce]

Oh and to those that support/like him, I have only one thing to say...

Do the world a favour and never reproduce.

K thx bye

Is this a riff on my sexuality?

i thought TRUMP was supposed to be the intolerant one. :rolleyes:

[Jahdu]

Is this a riff on my sexuality?

i thought TRUMP was supposed to be the intolerant one. :rolleyes:

Guess you were at the back of the queue when brains were being handed out /sigh

[Swish]

Guess you were at the back of the queue when brains were being handed out /sigh

:rolleyes: ...people who say that lol

[Thulack]

9/11/2001 USA New York, NY 2752 251 Islamic hijackers steer two planes packed with fuel and passengers into the World Trade Center, killing hundreds on impact and eventually killing thousands when the towers collapsed. At least 200 are seriously injured.
3/19/2002 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course.
5/27/2002 USA Denton, TX 1 0 Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard.
7/4/2002 USA Los Angeles, CA 2 0 Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people.
9/5/2002 USA Clinton, MD 1 0 A 55-year-old pizzaria owner is shot six times in the back by Muslims at close range.
9/21/2002 USA Montgomery, AL 1 1 Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one.
9/23/2002 USA Baton Rouge, LA 1 0 A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers.
10/2/2002 USA Wheaton, MD 1 0 Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot.
10/3/2002 USA Montgomery County, MD 5 0 Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period.
10/9/2002 USA Manassas, VA 1 1 A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
10/11/2002 USA Fredericksburg, VA 1 0 Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas.
10/14/2002 USA Arlington, VA 1 0 A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot.
10/22/2002 USA Aspen Hill, MD 1 0 A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers.
8/6/2003 USA Houston, TX 1 0 After undergoing a 'religious revival', a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4" butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man.
4/15/2004 USA Scottsville, NY 1 2 In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested.
6/16/2006 USA Baltimore, MD 1 0 A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim medical student in an unprovoked terror attack.
6/25/2006 USA Denver, CO 1 5 Saying that it was 'Allah's choice', a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
7/28/2006 USA Seattle, WA 1 5 An 'angry' Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.
1/1/2008 USA Irving, TX 2 0 A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their 'Western' lifestyle.
7/6/2008 USA Jonesboro, GA 1 0 A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
2/12/2009 USA Buffalo, NY 1 0 The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
4/12/2009 USA Phoenix, AZ 2 0 A man shoots his brother-in-law and another man to death after finding out that they visited a strip club, in contradiction to Islamic values.
6/1/2009 USA Little Rock, AR 1 1 A Muslim shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center explicitly in the name of Allah.
11/2/2009 USA Glendale, AZ 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.' (10-20-09)
11/5/2009 USA Ft. Hood, TX 13 31 A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers while yelling praises to Allah.
12/4/2009 USA Binghamton, NY 1 0 A non-Muslim Islamic studies professor is stabbed to death by a Muslim grad student in revenge for 'persecuted' Muslims.
4/14/2010 USA Marquette Park, IL 5 2 After quarrelling with his wife over Islamic dress, a Muslim convert shoots his family members to 'take them back to Allah' and out of the 'world of sinners'.
4/30/2011 USA Warren, MI 1 0 A 20-year-old woman is shot in the head by her stepfather for not adhering to Islamic practices.
9/11/2011 USA Waltham, MA 3 0 Three Jewish men have their throats slashed by Muslim terrorists.
1/15/2012 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 30-year-old Christian convert is shot to death by a devout Muslim for helping to convert his daughter.
11/12/2012 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 28-year-old American man is shot to death by a conservative Muslim over an alleged role in converting a woman to Christianity.
2/7/2013 USA Buena Vista, NJ 2 0 A Muslim targets and beheads two Christian Coptic immigrants.
3/24/2013 USA Ashtabula, OH 1 0 A Muslim convert walks into a church service with a Quran and guns down his Christian father while praising Allah.
4/15/2013 USA Boston, MA 3 264 Foreign-born Muslims describing themselves as 'very religious' detonate two bombs packed with ball bearings at the Boston Marathon, killing three people and causing several more to lose limbs.
4/19/2013 USA Boston, MA 1 1 Jihadists gun down a university police officer sitting in his car.
8/4/2013 USA Richmond, CA 1 0 A convert "on a mission from Allah" stabs a store clerk to death.
3/6/2014 USA Port Bolivar, TX 2 0 A Muslim man shoots his lesbian daughter and her lover to death and leaves a copy of the Quran open to a page condemning homosexuality.
4/27/2014 USA Skyway, WA 1 0 A 30-year-old man is murdered by a Muslim fanatic.
6/1/2014 USA Seattle, WA 2 0 Two homosexuals are murdered by an Islamic extremist.
6/25/2014 USA West Orange, NJ 1 0 A 19-year-old college student is shot to death 'in revenge' for Muslim deaths overseas.
9/25/2014 USA Moore, OK 1 1 A Sharia advocate beheads a woman after calling for Islamic terror and posting an Islamist beheading photo.
7/16/2015 USA Chattanooga 5 2 A 'devout Muslim' stages a suicide attack on a recruiting center at a strip mall and a naval center which leaves five dead.
12/2/2015 USA San Bernardino, CA 14 17 A 'very religious' Muslim shoots up a Christmas party with his wife, leaving fourteen dead.
Probably been more police killings of unarmed people in the same timeframe....What does that say about us..

[Jahdu]

@Swish

Oh and to those that support/like him, I have only one thing to say...

Do the world a favour and never reproduce.

K thx bye

[Swish]

@Jahdu - ur as useful as an solar powerd torch!!!! lmao!!

[Jahdu]

@Jahdu - ur as useful as an solar powerd torch!!!! lmao!!

The I D ten T gene is strong in this one :cool:

[iruinedyourday]

@Jahdu - ur as useful as an solar powerd torch!!!! lmao!!

Wat u call fleshlights in england fleshtorches? Seems like a bad marketing move.

[Lurikeen]

all trump supporters are unwitting hillary supporters



True words...

http://d3qvyul2tp4j8.cloudfront.net/i/aWUdkxnO8v.jpg

[James_Joyce]

Guess you were at the back of the queue when brains were being handed out /sigh

:rolleyes: ...people who say that lol

@Jahdu - ur as useful as an solar powerd torch!!!! lmao!!

eheheheh

[Madbad]

http://i.imgur.com/GvTOkwa.jpg

[James_Joyce]

Bernie WISHES he had hair that could do that

[Swish]

Wat u call fleshlights in england fleshtorches? Seems like a bad marketing move.

I wouldn't know 😾

[Oooruk]

they had a lead in the arms race, nerd. That's in the military/scientific sphere. i've already acknowledged their economy was flagging. and don't tell me your argument that there was no scientific lead in 1939 hinges on leading (german) scientists having emigrated by 1939. German aeronautics and chemistry and pharmacology were all leaps and bounds above the Allies in numerous ways even in 1945, even if there were technologies in the other bloc that the germans didnt share.

You don't have to be so butthurt about your American public school tier understanding of WW2. We've all been there. Although, in my own public school I learned that Nazis were mad scientists with long moustaches and loony superweapons.


1.) I'm not American

2.) I've never stated anything resembling "the Nazis were mad dogs" or "mad scientists"

3.) A large part of Germany's military success was because they had brilliant tacticians as generals. People such as Romel (sp). Not because they had an economic and scientific lead on the world. But, you think invading the soviet union (an ally at the time) was a good idea, demonstrating utter incompetence and a total lack of understanding about strategy and military maneuvering. The idea was Hitlers, and was a large part of why his top generals decided to try and assassinate him.

4.) You know what they say about assuming.

[James_Joyce]

1.) I'm not American

2.) I've never stated anything resembling "the Nazis were mad dogs" or "mad scientists"

3.) A large part of Germany's military success was because they had brilliant tacticians as generals. People such as Romel (sp). Not because they had an economic and scientific lead on the world. But, you think invading the soviet union (an ally at the time) was a good idea, demonstrating utter incompetence and a total lack of understanding about strategy and military maneuvering. The idea was Hitlers, and was a large part of why his top generals decided to try and assassinate him.

4.) You know what they say about assuming.

that's a whole lot of nonsequiturs avoiding the fact that nazi germany indeed had a demonstrable technological advantage up to and including on the last day of the war before berlin fell, and that you are wrong. Whether any of your nonsequiturs have merit on their own I know not. I don't have the tenacity to dig through this boring forgotten argument to find out.

[Oooruk]

that's a whole lot of nonsequiturs avoiding the fact that nazi germany indeed had a demonstrable technological advantage up to and including on the last day of the war before berlin fell, and that you are wrong. Whether any of your nonsequiturs have merit on their own I know not. I don't have the tenacity to dig through this boring forgotten argument to find out.

Hi nuclear bombs. The pursuit of which they were forced to abandon due to the lack of both technological sophistication and know how.

[James_Joyce]

Hi nuclear bombs. The pursuit of which they were forced to abandon due to the lack of both technological sophistication and know how.

On 30 April, Adolf Hitler, the Nazi leader, committed suicide during the Battle of Berlin. Germany's surrender, therefore, was authorised by his successor, Reichspräsident Karl Dönitz. The administration headed by Dönitz was known as the Flensburg Government. The act of military surrender was signed on 7 May 1945

Trinity was the code name of the first detonation of a nuclear weapon, conducted by the United States Army on July 16, 1945

ohaio gozaimasu

[Oooruk]

On 30 April, Adolf Hitler, the Nazi leader, committed suicide during the Battle of Berlin. Germany's surrender, therefore, was authorised by his successor, Reichspräsident Karl Dönitz. The administration headed by Dönitz was known as the Flensburg Government. The act of military surrender was signed on 7 May 1945

Trinity was the code name of the first detonation of a nuclear weapon, conducted by the United States Army on July 16, 1945

ohaio gozaimasu

I suspect you realise that the bomb was not magically produced from no where on July 16, 1945, ratherthat it was developed over a number of years?

[James_Joyce]

u really think germany had a tech lead in 1939? u are such a retard nahtzee bro, the allies got the bomb after german surrender in 1945 so they had a tech lead in 1939 QED

[Oooruk]

Personal insults and disregarding the fact that I was replying to a statement you made about Germany circa 1945.

You're better than that.

[James_Joyce]

ok ill respond more constructively just this once.

But, you think invading the soviet union (an ally at the time) was a good idea, demonstrating utter incompetence and a total lack of understanding about strategy and military maneuvering.

the idea that the soviet union was an ally in the sense that US and Britain were allies is retarded. the idea that invading Russia required "utter incompetence" at military matters when the Nazis were the first to push the Russians back against the wall since Napoleon, and had the Soviets on the brink of collapse, is retarded. If a military blunder was committed, it was in overextending German forces in the winter and dooming them to unsupplied isolation and death when the final seizure of the Soviet capital was inches from achieved. A more noncommittal approach probably would have been advisable. The decision to invade itself, however, was sound and very nearly successful.

The idea that war between Germany and the Soviet Union was viewed by both sides as inevitable and German leadership decided to strike while the Soviets were reeling from the great purge, before Stalin could build a regime on par militarily with Hitler's, is much better-informed than points of view that center on what an insane autocrat Hitler was. Germany didn't come inches from conquering the Earth on insanity alone, I promise.

You're oversimplifying to a laughable degree by saying "dere wuz a mutual nonaggression pact, derefore the overtly jewish-dominated Soviet Union wuz good good loyal friends with dose mad dog overtly anti-semitic nazis until they backstabbed the russian bear because Hitler was rabid && evil && masturbated to ppl being flayed alive". You never addressed the fact that the Soviets were massing for invasion when preemptively struck. You never addressed the fact that the ideologies of the two nations were diametrically opposed and both knew that the other was an existential threat from the beginning. The entire rise of fascism in Germany was predicated on fear and hatred of the catastrophe going on in Russia, among other things.

Peace for Germany in the long-term involved crushing Communist Russia; if you deny this you are buying too deeply into the "Germany as mad dog and sole aggressor" mythos. These conflicts were mutual. Communism had global aspirations in this era, and had spread so far so fast that those aspirations were to be taken seriously and put in check. Are you really so mindfucked that you see Stalin as the hapless leader of a peaceable nation suddenly and unexpectedly attacked by its closest ally, Nazi Germany? That's sad as fuck. Turn off the history channel.

By the way, the fact that some German traitors wanted to assassinate Hitler, take over the German government and surrender to save their own skins and assume massive amounts of power as they saw the war being lost is in no way a specific argument for your point of view, regardless of what you saw in the movie Valkyrie starring Tom Cruise. Ambition is plenty to explain this; don't read war-propaganda "they saw the evil" horse shit speculation into things when you're trying to have a real discussion.

I'm not better than personal insults when your response to being destroyed on one point is to sidestep, ignore it by making another retarded argument, and then backtrack and restate the original debunked premise when the secondary premise is also handily destroyed. This discussion is shitty and boring and I feel like a tool for debating WW2 facts in public like a 14 year old who just discovered Band of Brothers. Also you're a nerd.

[wts]

all trump supporters are unwitting hillary supporters

i just want to see the atomic fireworks, is that so much to ask?

He's a Democrat in sheep's clothing.

[Stasis01]

Probably been more police killings of unarmed people in the same timeframe....What does that say about us..

It says that a religion that is intolerant and hateful gets a free pass because it's labeled as a religion.

I'm not saying kill all Muslims, but I will keep saying we need to stand up for our culture and values and stand against them.

I would say the same thing about Christianity during medieval times, if I wouldn't get burned alive because of it of course.

[Stasis01]

Everyone needs to tolerate intolerance or else you are intolerant.

Make sense, didn't think so - carry on.

[Whirled]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/harrison-ford-responds-to-donald-trumps-air-force-one-praise/ar-AAgfJKM?li=BBnb2gh&ocid=mailsignout

I would buy Mr. Ford non stop beers to hear all the funny things like this^

[Stasis01]

Trump asked what his favorite movie president is.

He says Air Force One because the president sticks up for America.

Ford tells him it's only a movie...

I hate the media so much.

[derpcake]

trump winning would be great for europe, asia, russia, ...

can't wait till he angers more foreign nations

am sure US economy will thrive with an uneducated angry xenophobe at the lead

cheap dollars inc, yes baby! he's guaranteed to do better then bush, for us non-US people!

[derpcake]

It says that a religion that is intolerant and hateful gets a free pass because it's labeled as a religion.

I'm not saying kill all Muslims, but I will keep saying we need to stand up for our culture and values and stand against them.

I would say the same thing about Christianity during medieval times, if I wouldn't get burned alive because of it of course.

you are a fucking idiot btw

go stand up against the bible belt extremists? maybe banish christians from the country? stand up for your values right?

thanks for supporting trump

[sOurDieSel]

Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler
By Fashy Goy Paul Town
Edited by IRYD.

Don’t be a fan of Donald Trump. He’s really Adolf Hitler in disguise. Don’t believe it? You aren’t looking close enough.

Let me show you how far the neg hole goes:

Did you know that Hitler was white? Guess who else is white. That’s right, a racist bigot xenophobe by the name of Donald Trump. Coincidence? Maybe. Probably not.

Did you know who made fun of crippled reporters and called them crypt keeper freaks? Donald Trump did something like that. Hitler also probably did something like that

One of Hitler’s big platforms when running for president of a democratic country was anti-immigration. He said that Jews were taking all the dangerous jobs (construction, military) from Germans. This was true. Hitler resented the tremendous work ethic of Jews, which can be seen to this day.

Trump is also vehemently pushing against immigration, but this time from innocent, high-IQ, noble Mexicans. Coming here to help others, not to rape people and deal drugs as racist statistics would indicate.

There’s no denying that Hitler was a fascist. What does that word mean? We’re not sure, but it’s really bad.

Trump is mean to people, so it’s fair to say that he’s a fascist. Don’t believe it? Have you ever seen Schindler’s List? Do you want Mexicans to be put in cattle cars? Wow, just wow.

Trump makes us feel really bad inside. The Club for Growth, BLM, ADL, SPLC and other organizations that seem to be uniformly pro-immigration and exclusively funded by certain people groups don’t seem to like him.

Much like Hitler, Trump seems to have a lot of white people who support him. This is bad. Why? Well, Hitler had a lot of white people who supported him. Enough said.

Did you know that Trump might have had a book of quotes by Hitler or with Hitler quotes or something? Why would he be reading that or even owning it if he wasn’t a Nazi? It just doesn’t add up! Everybody knows, Hitler was pure evil and never had any good ideas or thoughts applicable to politics. Don’t believe it? Educate yourself.

As if all that stuff wasn’t damning enough, did you know that Trump’s father was once in an altercation with the police at a KKK related event? If the KKK isn’t relevant in 2015, what is? Ever heard of Dylan Roof or Eric Dorner? They were probably somehow involved in the KKK or something. If he were alive today, Hitler would probably be in the KKK.

Racist fact after racist fact, racist outburst after racist outburst, Trump is consistently mean to the press and treats them like parasites for some unexplainable reason. This is unacceptable.

If we are to continue the winning conservative track record, we need a moderate. Somebody like Rubio. He’s Latino, not white. That’s pretty cool. Carson would also be a good choice. He’s black. That’s also pretty cool. We’ve had enough of racist old white hicks telling the GOP what to do.

It’s 2015, don’t make the mistake of supporting the racist white fascist Nazi bigot KKK meanie that wantstokill6millionjews (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm5Je73bYOY).

[maskedmelon]

Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler
By Fashy Goy Paul Town
Edited by IRYD.

Don’t be a fan of Donald Trump. He’s really Adolf Hitler in disguise. Don’t believe it? You aren’t looking close enough.

Let me show you how far the neg hole goes:

Did you know that Hitler was white? Guess who else is white. That’s right, a racist bigot xenophobe by the name of Donald Trump. Coincidence? Maybe. Probably not.

Did you know who made fun of crippled reporters and called them crypt keeper freaks? Donald Trump did something like that. Hitler also probably did something like that

One of Hitler’s big platforms when running for president of a democratic country was anti-immigration. He said that Jews were taking all the dangerous jobs (construction, military) from Germans. This was true. Hitler resented the tremendous work ethic of Jews, which can be seen to this day.

Trump is also vehemently pushing against immigration, but this time from innocent, high-IQ, noble Mexicans. Coming here to help others, not to rape people and deal drugs as racist statistics would indicate.

There’s no denying that Hitler was a fascist. What does that word mean? We’re not sure, but it’s really bad.

Trump is mean to people, so it’s fair to say that he’s a fascist. Don’t believe it? Have you ever seen Schindler’s List? Do you want Mexicans to be put in cattle cars? Wow, just wow.

Trump makes us feel really bad inside. The Club for Growth, BLM, ADL, SPLC and other organizations that seem to be uniformly pro-immigration and exclusively funded by certain people groups don’t seem to like him.

Much like Hitler, Trump seems to have a lot of white people who support him. This is bad. Why? Well, Hitler had a lot of white people who supported him. Enough said.

Did you know that Trump might have had a book of quotes by Hitler or with Hitler quotes or something? Why would he be reading that or even owning it if he wasn’t a Nazi? It just doesn’t add up! Everybody knows, Hitler was pure evil and never had any good ideas or thoughts applicable to politics. Don’t believe it? Educate yourself.

As if all that stuff wasn’t damning enough, did you know that Trump’s father was once in an altercation with the police at a KKK related event? If the KKK isn’t relevant in 2015, what is? Ever heard of Dylan Roof or Eric Dorner? They were probably somehow involved in the KKK or something. If he were alive today, Hitler would probably be in the KKK.

Racist fact after racist fact, racist outburst after racist outburst, Trump is consistently mean to the press and treats them like parasites for some unexplainable reason. This is unacceptable.

If we are to continue the winning conservative track record, we need a moderate. Somebody like Rubio. He’s Latino, not white. That’s pretty cool. Carson would also be a good choice. He’s black. That’s also pretty cool. We’ve had enough of racist old white hicks telling the GOP what to do.

It’s 2015, don’t make the mistake of supporting the racist white fascist Nazi bigot KKK meanie that wantstokill6millionjews (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm5Je73bYOY).

Lol, A+

[AzzarTheGod]

Trump asked what his favorite movie president is.

He says Air Force One because the president sticks up for America.

Ford tells him it's only a movie...

I hate the media so much.

Meh Ford is a known angry asshole. If he didn't pan, bash, or burn something every time he opens his mouth in an interview I don't know what he would have left for personality.

Post-plane crash Ford has softened a lot.

[Stasis01]

you are a fucking idiot btw

go stand up against the bible belt extremists? maybe banish christians from the country? stand up for your values right?

thanks for supporting trump

I would agree if it was Christians from the medieval times. I don't really care what people believe unless it's trying to push it on others or hurting people.

The values I was speaking of are equal rights for women, being gay isn't punished by death, death or convert etc etc.

Islam is currently doing this. Jews don't do it, Buddhists aren't, there's a common them.

I think it starts somewhere with -

"Kill all non believers and infidels if they will not convert"

and

"hold animosity inside you if you're under authority of non believers, follow their rules and be polite.

[Stasis01]

Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler
By Fashy Goy Paul Town
Edited by IRYD.

Don’t be a fan of Donald Trump. He’s really Adolf Hitler in disguise. Don’t believe it? You aren’t looking close enough.

Let me show you how far the neg hole goes:

Did you know that Hitler was white? Guess who else is white. That’s right, a racist bigot xenophobe by the name of Donald Trump. Coincidence? Maybe. Probably not.

Did you know who made fun of crippled reporters and called them crypt keeper freaks? Donald Trump did something like that. Hitler also probably did something like that

One of Hitler’s big platforms when running for president of a democratic country was anti-immigration. He said that Jews were taking all the dangerous jobs (construction, military) from Germans. This was true. Hitler resented the tremendous work ethic of Jews, which can be seen to this day.

Trump is also vehemently pushing against immigration, but this time from innocent, high-IQ, noble Mexicans. Coming here to help others, not to rape people and deal drugs as racist statistics would indicate.

There’s no denying that Hitler was a fascist. What does that word mean? We’re not sure, but it’s really bad.

Trump is mean to people, so it’s fair to say that he’s a fascist. Don’t believe it? Have you ever seen Schindler’s List? Do you want Mexicans to be put in cattle cars? Wow, just wow.

Trump makes us feel really bad inside. The Club for Growth, BLM, ADL, SPLC and other organizations that seem to be uniformly pro-immigration and exclusively funded by certain people groups don’t seem to like him.

Much like Hitler, Trump seems to have a lot of white people who support him. This is bad. Why? Well, Hitler had a lot of white people who supported him. Enough said.

Did you know that Trump might have had a book of quotes by Hitler or with Hitler quotes or something? Why would he be reading that or even owning it if he wasn’t a Nazi? It just doesn’t add up! Everybody knows, Hitler was pure evil and never had any good ideas or thoughts applicable to politics. Don’t believe it? Educate yourself.

As if all that stuff wasn’t damning enough, did you know that Trump’s father was once in an altercation with the police at a KKK related event? If the KKK isn’t relevant in 2015, what is? Ever heard of Dylan Roof or Eric Dorner? They were probably somehow involved in the KKK or something. If he were alive today, Hitler would probably be in the KKK.

Racist fact after racist fact, racist outburst after racist outburst, Trump is consistently mean to the press and treats them like parasites for some unexplainable reason. This is unacceptable.

If we are to continue the winning conservative track record, we need a moderate. Somebody like Rubio. He’s Latino, not white. That’s pretty cool. Carson would also be a good choice. He’s black. That’s also pretty cool. We’ve had enough of racist old white hicks telling the GOP what to do.

It’s 2015, don’t make the mistake of supporting the racist white fascist Nazi bigot KKK meanie that wantstokill6millionjews (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm5Je73bYOY).

Trump is against illegal immigration.

Everyone makes fun of retards.

Dunno what other points you made.

[derpcake]

judging an entire religion by how a miniority of extremists interpret it is what i did, and is what you are doing

Jews don't hurt people?

laughable troll

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/WBC_20051202_sacco-topeka5.jpg

[Stasis01]

That's not a misinterpretation, they are direct interpretations.

Most people just realize it's bullshit, and don't take things literally - people did in Europe back in the day, and they are in the middle east today.

2015, religious wars yay.

[derpcake]

That's not a misinterpretation, they are direct interpretations.

Most people just realize it's bullshit, and don't take things literally - people did in Europe back in the day, and they are in the middle east today.

2015, religious wars yay.

i didn't pay much attention during theology class

you do know that Jesus chased the heathens from the market place using a whip?

"Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, whom you love—Isaac—and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.”

damn, those one-liners without context really do look angry

who could have thought 2000 year old shit isn't politically correct?

[derpcake]

Most people just realize it's bullshit, and don't take things literally - people did in Europe back in the day, and they are in the middle east today.

are you insinuating a minority of muslims has yet to reach the age of enlightenment?

we can agree on that

just like every fucking other religion has people that do

[Stasis01]

are you insinuating a minority of muslims has yet to reach the age of enlightenment?

we can agree on that

just like every fucking other religion has people that do

They aren't a minority, you are being lied to.

Sorry man.

[Stasis01]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LBpmPXv1R4

Highly recommend checking this dude out well spoken and intelligent.

[Stasis01]

i didn't pay much attention during theology class

you do know that Jesus chased the heathens from the market place using a whip?

"Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, whom you love—Isaac—and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.”

damn, those one-liners without context really do look angry

who could have thought 2000 year old shit isn't politically correct?

I don't like Christianity and am not a Christian, but saying that people that do follow that religion take it literally in this day and age is a lie.

I would say close down the churches because people become priests to rape little boys, but that's another topic.

The fact is Muslims are taking their religion literally, when most are retarded.

[derpcake]

Bible belter here and the Christian institutions are full of bigotry loosely veiled as nepotism and sexism.

It sux and is highly fucked up. I'm mostly ok with people learning about the bible and such. But it's still evil to act like the authority on it and use it to abuse or excuse the abuse of anyone. If a Christian turned a Hippocraticcritical blind eye to another Christian nurses mistake but came down hard on and got fired an openly pagan nurse who broke rules to save a life... Well this kind of thing happens a lot and has a massive chilling affect on non-orthodox or non Christians here.

Its also not in accordance to modern interpretation of Christianity.

Modern Muslims don't drink, give a % of their income to the poor, and are supportive of their neighbor.

When a bomb goes off in the middle-east, you see people carrying wounded and trying to help. That shit happens in the west, and its mostly journalists trying to get a $ shot.

collectivism > individualism

[derpcake]

I don't like Christianity and am not a Christian, but saying that people that do follow that religion take it literally in this day and age is a lie.

that is not what i said, i said every religion has extremists among their members

[Stasis01]

that is not what i said, i said every religion has extremists among their members

You are being disingenuous or you are stupid, can't tell don't care.

[derpcake]

They aren't a minority, you are being lied to.

Sorry man.

can you support this with numbers?

looking forward to you discovering who is being lied to.

[Stasis01]

I put up a video with statistics from polls and basically my views on the religion, watch that and get back to me.

[derpcake]

You are being disingenuous or you are stupid, can't tell don't care.

strong words from a guy claiming the majority of muslims are extremists

which is a hilariously myopic vision btw

how many muslims are in the US armed forces? how many muslims are actively fighting IS? how many muslims are peaceful members of society in america?

how many members does IS have again?

don't bother looking it up, go ad hominem

[Stasis01]

I am saying Islam is a violent and oppressive religion?

[Stasis01]

The only argument that makes any sense is people don't take the Quran literally.

And I still don't understand why it's not allowed to call something what it is, oppressive, intolerant, violent etc because it's a religion.

People are waking up though it's aight.

[derpcake]

The only argument that makes any sense is people don't take the Quran literally.

And I still don't understand why it's not allowed to call something what it is, oppressive, intolerant, violent etc because it's a religion.

People are waking up though it's aight.

islam is the same as christianity

the only difference is the % of followers taking it literal

you claiming the majority of muslims is an extremist is laughable

thats it

[Stasis01]

I don't know why you are comparing a shitty religion to a shitty religion to justify it.

Fact - most people don't take the bible seriously, which is how it should be. It's bullshit.

I am saying you cannot have a moderate Muslim if they follow the Quran.

This will be my last reply, it just doesn't sink in.

[derpcake]

you know that claim is false I am sure, just consider it

maybe stop spouting it, stupid people tend to buy that shit easily, it polarizes the groups, and guess what that causes?

right

[James_Joyce]

how do these dudes have 1000 and 3000 posts respectively & i've never seen them b4

[Stasis01]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LBpmPXv1R4

[derpcake]

I am saying you cannot have a moderate Muslim if they follow the Quran.

This will be my last reply, it just doesn't sink in.

You can be a moderate Muslim just like you can be a moderate Christian.

I guess it doesn't sink in.

Sorry you are scared of the majority of muslims though. Make sure you wear a vest whenever you go out, they are plenty.

[derpcake]

how do these dudes have 1000 and 3000 posts respectively & i've never seen them b4

staff instructed us to cheer up the pve forums

[derpcake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LBpmPXv1R4

2 seconds in the movie and its obvious he is to angry / agitated

sorry bro, gonna have to stick with real numbers and shit

[James_Joyce]

staff instructed us to cheer up the pve forums

o, he's from tumblr

it makes sense now

[Stasis01]

I can't reply to you, it's like talking to a wall sorry.

[derpcake]

I can't reply to you, it's like talking to a wall sorry.

there are 1.6 billion muslims

you claim the majority is extremist, and post a movie with a dude thats angry from the start

hilarious :)

xenophobe to the max

could quote dozens of sources to prove you wrong, not going to bother after seeing the kind of source material you bring forward in arguments like this

[Stasis01]

You still don't understand my point and misquote me, I can't reply to this nonsense cya.

[derpcake]

You still don't understand my point and misquote me, I can't reply to this nonsense cya.

They aren't a minority, you are being lied to.

Sorry man.

they aren't a minority, but also not a majority?

is there some group in between that is major?

i honestly don't think you've met many muslims if any. I like to bring up Syria as a discussion point, its especially fun to ask westernized muslim girls wether they'd like to live traditional lives back there. I genuinly feel sorry for you :)

[Stasis01]

Pass.

[derpcake]

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KO

crowd cheers

[Stasis01]

Pass

[derpcake]

its mostly muslims, cuz they are collectivists, yet noone gets blown up

photo report being mailed to stasis free of charge

we support the poor

[Stasis01]

Pizass.

[derpcake]

kebab

[Stasis01]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY

[Stasis01]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7OYRknGgEc

[AenorVZ]

xenophobe to the max

Kinda sad to see someone live their life as a sniveling coward.

[iruinedyourday]

everything stasis has ever posted is ignorant, and an image from his own stupid video fits him all to well:

http://i.imgur.com/fn86kHu.png

Just because smarter people than you dont agree with your naive xenophobic fear of everything outside of your crappy town doesn't mean we dont listen, it means we dont care about the childish things your paranoid sad infantile brain is afraid of, much like your parents arnt afraid of the monster in your closet. Because its not really there.

[Swish]

so basically everyone who doesn't vote for Hilary Clinton is either racist or hates seeing women in power?

[iruinedyourday]

who the fuck is hillary?

[Pokesan]

swish trollin hard in the paint

at this point you gotta be retarted* to not realize IRYD is a sanderista

*spelling in honor of IRYD, long may he reign

[AenorVZ]

Trump is either a communist or a fascist, I haven't quite figured it out. Either way, i initially thought he was in the race to help Jeb Bush seem moderate by comparison. I'm now convinced that he's there to derail the Republicans. When he first conceived the idea of running, it was probably about his brand and name recognition. Once he announced his candidacy and started spewing xenophobia, I think most political observers were shocked to some degree by how much his message resonated.

Trump's message has resonated so much that there's no longer any question of indirectly aiding Bush's candidacy by making him seem normal by comparison. If Trump runs as an independent, the Republican candidate has no chance and Hilary wins. If Trump wins the Republican nomination, Hilary wins. I'm personally astounded by the brilliance of the Clintons in convincing their dear friend Donald Trump to launch a faux candidacy which practically ensures that Hilary will be our next president.

Also, how politically inept is the Bush family at this point? GHW thought he could be re-elected after "read my lips, no new taxes?" Jeb Bush thought he could be elected president after 9/11?

[George_Costanza]

Jeb Bush thought he could be elected president after 9/11?

I think you mean "Iraq" and "the Great Recession and accompanying bailout of billionaires with taxpayer money". 9/11 was the best thing that ever happened to the Bushes, except perhaps for Daddy Bush rising to CIA director and 33rd degree freemason during the MKULTRA batshit era of the agency.

[James_Joyce]

Trump's message has resonated so much that there's no longer any question of indirectly aiding Bush's candidacy by making him seem normal by comparison. If Trump runs as an independent, the Republican candidate has no chance and Hilary wins. If Trump wins the Republican nomination, Hilary wins. I'm personally astounded by the brilliance of the Clintons in convincing their dear friend Donald Trump to launch a faux candidacy which practically ensures that Hilary will be our next president.

This would make a lot of sense but for one thing.

The only thing better than having a President who owes you big is being a president who owes nobody anything. Does Lord TRUMP seem like the man to make small plays to you?