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iruinedyourday
11-20-2015, 07:55 PM
http://bgr.com/2015/11/20/comcast-internet-deals-net-neutrality-t-mobile/
get real kids
Swish
11-20-2015, 08:30 PM
Basically you don't go with a provider that caps data usage.
BT tried it here in the UK about 5-6 years ago. 2GB a month or you get a fucking huge bill for any extra you use. Unsurprisingly it wasn't popular and BT lost a lot of loyal customers (those idiots who've always just used their phone company for everything else and never shopped around.... who one day woke up).
America used to be a country we were really jealous of in the UK, REALLY jealous of. You guys all had faster connections than us as we were slower to get out of the antiquated dial-up system...but now I know people who pay $150 a month for internet there!
Seriously?! Over $100 a month for internet? I think I was paying $50 with BT (without a cap) and that was considered to be expensive. In fact if you shop around, you can find $5 a month + $23ish line rental here.
Net neutrality is important, I hope anyone trying to cap data usage or any attempts to censor sites has their company plunge into bankruptcy... and should they all start doing it? I'm sure that just paves the way for a new one that won't.
Madbad
11-20-2015, 08:52 PM
I loves me some free speaches!
http://i.imgur.com/rhKfDgz.png
Basically you don't go with a provider that caps data usage.
That's a great plan and all, except here in the USA we aren't really all that keen on enforcing anti-trust policy anymore, so our corporations (who own the government) conspire to remove options like that from the consumer. Their legal teams roam the country and crush attempts at municipal / public internet, buy politicians to foster favorable legislation and lax FCC enforcement, and try to make things like Google fiber difficult. Really it's just another aspect of our society that has been ruined by corruption and crony capitalism.
Basically, where I live, when I want to buy internet, I get a choice between being raped in my anus and being raped in my mouth. Luckily no data cap though... although if I torrented or streamed a few hundred GB a month I'd definitely hear about it.
sOurDieSel
11-21-2015, 02:32 AM
wtf there is data caps on internet? ya'll must live in the ghetto
Then again, I didn't know youtube had ads until I used the internet at my uncle's house last year.
iruinedyourday
11-21-2015, 02:47 AM
Then again, I didn't know youtube had ads until I used the internet at my uncle's house last year.
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/not_even_mad.gif
AzzarTheGod
11-21-2015, 03:24 AM
Basically, where I live, when I want to buy internet, I get a choice between being raped in my anus and being raped in my mouth. Luckily no data cap though... although if I torrented or streamed a few hundred GB a month I'd definitely hear about it.
In college my roommate and I had access to a 15 meg up/down line.
We pulled 14.98 megs/s 24 hours a day 7 days a week for about two and half solid months before the school administration caught up with us. They let us know we were using 100% of the schools bandwidth nonstop, and that a criminal investigation would commence and that the state had been notified. They showed us our data usage, which we were even surprised by, and demanded we surrender the MAC addresses they were accusing immediately.
All 5 computers/servers were seized with about 20 HDs, even our 3rd roommate's computer who had nothing to do with it. And we were removed/banned from campus for the year with the option to appeal for housing privileges next year pending the outcome of a criminal investigation by the state.
In judicial, my friend retorted "This is bullshit!" after the charges were laid out. Yeah that didn't go over well in addition to having me falsely testify as an un-involved 3rd party.
Swish
11-21-2015, 04:10 AM
In college my roommate and I had access to a 15 meg up/down line.
We pulled 14.98 megs/s 24 hours a day 7 days a week for about two and half solid months before the school administration caught up with us. They let us know we were using 100% of the schools bandwidth nonstop, and that a criminal investigation would commence and that the state had been notified. They showed us our data usage, which we were even surprised by, and demanded we surrender the MAC addresses they were accusing immediately.
All 5 computers/servers were seized with about 20 HDs, even our 3rd roommate's computer who had nothing to do with it. And we were removed/banned from campus for the year with the option to appeal for housing privileges next year pending the outcome of a criminal investigation by the state.
In judicial, my friend retorted "This is bullshit!" after the charges were laid out. Yeah that didn't go over well in addition to having me falsely testify as an un-involved 3rd party.
No warning or anything? Straight to prosecution? Wouldn't happen in England, they do everything they can to keep the already antiquated court system from being more overloaded.
Very harsh though, could someone have suggested the school cap a data allowance and that they perhaps could have done more to stamp it out rather than sprint straight to the legal system to get "justice"? Whoever chose to take you down that route deserves a good kicking.
In college my roommate and I had access to a 15 meg up/down line.
We pulled 14.98 megs/s 24 hours a day 7 days a week for about two and half solid months before the school administration caught up with us. They let us know we were using 100% of the schools bandwidth nonstop, and that a criminal investigation would commence and that the state had been notified. They showed us our data usage, which we were even surprised by, and demanded we surrender the MAC addresses they were accusing immediately.
All 5 computers/servers were seized with about 20 HDs, even our 3rd roommate's computer who had nothing to do with it. And we were removed/banned from campus for the year with the option to appeal for housing privileges next year pending the outcome of a criminal investigation by the state.
In judicial, my friend retorted "This is bullshit!" after the charges were laid out. Yeah that didn't go over well in addition to having me falsely testify as an un-involved 3rd party.
Holy shit lol what a load of horseshit. Those assholes.
When I was in college me and my roommates torrented constantly. Nothing happened until we got caught torrenting The Hangover, and all the ISP did was shut off our internet and make us promise to stop torrenting when we called them to have it turned back on. Pretty sure we were already starting new torrents while still on the phone with them. Then again, we weren't in the dorms using campus internet.
George_Costanza
11-21-2015, 04:22 AM
In college my roommate and I had access to a 15 meg up/down line.
We pulled 14.98 megs/s 24 hours a day 7 days a week for about two and half solid months before the school administration caught up with us. They let us know we were using 100% of the schools bandwidth nonstop, and that a criminal investigation would commence and that the state had been notified. They showed us our data usage, which we were even surprised by, and demanded we surrender the MAC addresses they were accusing immediately.
All 5 computers/servers were seized with about 20 HDs, even our 3rd roommate's computer who had nothing to do with it. And we were removed/banned from campus for the year with the option to appeal for housing privileges next year pending the outcome of a criminal investigation by the state.
In judicial, my friend retorted "This is bullshit!" after the charges were laid out. Yeah that didn't go over well in addition to having me falsely testify as an un-involved 3rd party.
Sounds like you guys don't make a habit of paying artists what they deserve for their hard work. It's a lot of blood, sweat, and tears producing an album or a television show and there's no guarantee of a paycheck for an aspiring artist. The rules exist so we can enjoy art and encourage artists with profit instead of wallowing in filth all day listening to the Red Army Choir.
Swish
11-21-2015, 04:35 AM
Meet Lily Allen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Allen), she's a music artist... her dad basically got her a job in the music industry.
She can't sing so she just talks for her music (https://youtu.be/LQ2qDtaeFnY?t=22s), but thats okay because she has her own style and a bit of a cult following. I say "own style", basically she tries to use her accent as a tool to sell records and I hate her for it because when she actually talks she doesn't sound how she talks during a song recording.
Anyway, despite not being able to sing and being given a record contract because her dad knows people...she's also VERY anti-piracy. Who'd have thought?
AzzarTheGod
11-21-2015, 04:48 AM
We learned that using internet bandwidth is very serious business. This was in 2003. The beards in the Residence Connectivity dept (ResCon) were the type of guys who couldn't get a real gig, probably alumni.
IT sounded the alarm. And just our luck it was to this quintessential neo-feminist. She was net-stupid without a clue, and these older pasty beards with permanent frowns had sold her a conspiracy to rape and pillage all the bandwidth and download the worlds intellectual property. It was a hanging jury.
What had actually happened was this 0 Day group that my friend gave admin on his PC one night during an IRC chat, decided to use our local network as a dump after they recognized the service provider was not residential. My friend had told him "yeah as long as I'm getting good movies to watch I don't care" lol not realizing what a dump actually meant. Not exactly a few movies..
sOurDieSel
11-21-2015, 11:47 AM
So they kicked you out of college and on top of it you let a neo-feminist steal your 5 servers/computers.
No warrant with a police escort = kick rocks.
u soft dawg
AzzarTheGod
11-21-2015, 04:18 PM
We got conned and cucked. We were young.:o
Dillian
11-21-2015, 04:26 PM
i have comcast with out a data cap. i think it was experimental for some communitys. As far as i know though they are putting an ax in it
KagatobLuvsAnimu
11-21-2015, 09:39 PM
Right now the biggest threat to free speech is Christie Blatchford.
George_Costanza
11-21-2015, 09:50 PM
Right now the biggest threat to free speech is Christie Blatchford.
This woman's wikipedia article is only 1 paragraph! I think you're a little overly invested in this nobody. Check out the scrollbar of her wiki page (taken in fullscreen, but I have 3 search bars so they shouldnt be too tall), then compare:
http://i.imgur.com/Eyzvk4V.png
For example, wikipedia scrollbar for me (that is, the in-character me not the Jason Alexander me):
http://i.imgur.com/1Acxrrs.png
And Adolf Hitler, the #1 free speech destroyer's wikipedia scrollbar:
https://i.imgur.com/O8eMhD4.png
Get a grip Kagatob! She's a nobody!
KagatobLuvsAnimu
11-21-2015, 10:02 PM
Right now
You missed that qualifier.
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