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quido
11-19-2015, 05:32 PM
I just decided today to start studying for the CCNA. I have minimal network experience and have never done anything on the enterprise level.
Have any of you guys done it or tried to do it? How much preparation did you require? I'm planning to breeze through this stuff and give it a shot. I bet I don't need even one tenth the time of all you stupid motherfuckers out there.
Ya morans
Smedy
11-19-2015, 05:35 PM
quit everquest
quido
11-19-2015, 05:40 PM
How hard can it really be?
Kergan
11-19-2015, 05:50 PM
I just decided today to start studying for the CCNA. I have minimal network experience and have never done anything on the enterprise level.
Have any of you guys done it or tried to do it? How much preparation did you require? I'm planning to breeze through this stuff and give it a shot. I bet I don't need even one tenth the time of all you stupid motherfuckers out there.
Ya morans
I've had my CCNA for like 10 years now.
Use CBT nuggets (https://www.cbtnuggets.com/). It isn't free but it is by far the best training experience. I'm doing some CCNP specialization exams now to renew all my CCNA/CCNP/CCDA/CCDP and specializations, etc and I always go back to the CBT nuggets to brush up. It isn't free but it is worth it, and if you want to be a dick you can probably find torrents of the videos somewhere.
As for the test, it isn't super in depth but it is very broad. You need to know a little about a lot basically. And if you can't do subnetting quickly in your head you should get that down first.
quido
11-19-2015, 06:00 PM
Hey thanks for the info. I've skimmed through the CCNA course on a free site called Cybrary - it looked extensive but relatively easy. I thought the lab section looked a bit weak so I might try to find a lab elsewhere. I'll probably stick to free stuff for the CCNA and use something better in the future for further certifications. I'm a pretty motivated self-learner so I think I should at least be able to nail this CCNA relatively quickly. I'll probably try the 7-day free trial on the Nuggets site once I think I have this down and see if there's any material there I'm not familiar with yet.
Kergan
11-19-2015, 06:17 PM
The one thing I like about CBT nuggets is I feel like I actually absorb the information for real world use instead of just getting instructed on how to pass an exam. As someone who designs and implements solutions which include Cisco products for a living, certs are nice and all but at the end of the day it comes down to knowing the tech not just the test answers.
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miraclegrow2
11-19-2015, 06:33 PM
you are wasting your time, the chance of successfully obtaining a job using your CCNA is probably 1 in 10 thousand.
the sheer amount of college all stars with entry level certs in the IT field is staggering and every single one is blown off because quite simply you cant do shit with a ccna.
also please understand cisco is NOT microsoft and it has been their intention to have routers and switches configure themselves with nice GUI's that make router admins pretty much obsolete,
command line ios is dead, trust me i was a router admin for several years.
Kergan
11-19-2015, 06:41 PM
You are literally 100% wrong in everything you just said. And there is no such job as a "router admin".
I've been in the networking field for over 10 years and when I'm hiring engineers I won't even consider them if they don't have a CCNA.
Not to mention for a lot of companies partnership benefits with Cisco are in large part determined by the certification level of your staff.
Will you get hired because you have a CCNA? No. Will you NOT get hired because you don't have one? Absolutely.
Trustworthy
11-19-2015, 07:08 PM
you are wasting your time, the chance of successfully obtaining a job using your CCNA is probably 1 in 10 thousand.
the sheer amount of college all stars with entry level certs in the IT field is staggering and every single one is blown off because quite simply you cant do shit with a ccna.
also please understand cisco is NOT microsoft and it has been their intention to have routers and switches configure themselves with nice GUI's that make router admins pretty much obsolete,
command line ios is dead, trust me i was a router admin for several years.
Fuck man. you are one fat idiot...
Stick to your recreational eating on an obsessive level.
quido
11-19-2015, 07:28 PM
Thanks Fame! I'm about halfway through the Layer 2 stuff already! You can go take the test almost anytime assuming you have a testing facility, right?
AzzarTheGod
11-19-2015, 07:48 PM
tagged
Xaanka
11-19-2015, 08:16 PM
have fun filling out job apps that require 5 years experience with things that have existed for 2 years. no wonder i'm out of that field.
AzzarTheGod
11-19-2015, 08:45 PM
have fun filling out job apps that require 5 years experience with things that have existed for 2 years. no wonder i'm out of that field.
miraclegrow2
11-19-2015, 09:53 PM
Let us know how the OSI Model and your packet diagrams work out.
Tavrin
11-19-2015, 10:08 PM
It's been over 10 years since I got mine, but it was a pretty easy test.
Pick up a cheap PIX off of eBay, and configure it as your router at home.
The practice of setting up the interfaces, nat'ing, and acls will be a huge benefit when you test.
Nothing will help you learn faster than doing it in a live environment that you use daily.
Tassador
11-19-2015, 10:15 PM
I drink beer in a duffman costume for a living. making $30 and its 9:20 PM est
Ames1
11-19-2015, 11:04 PM
you are wasting your time, the chance of successfully obtaining a job using your CCNA is probably 1 in 10 thousand.
the sheer amount of college all stars with entry level certs in the IT field is staggering and every single one is blown off because quite simply you cant do shit with a ccna.
also please understand cisco is NOT microsoft and it has been their intention to have routers and switches configure themselves with nice GUI's that make router admins pretty much obsolete,
command line ios is dead, trust me i was a router admin for several years.
a man who grows tomatoes for a living is giving career advice? hehe gud1
miraclegrow2
11-19-2015, 11:18 PM
It's been over 10 years since I got mine, but it was a pretty easy test.
Pick up a cheap PIX off of eBay, and configure it as your router at home.
The practice of setting up the interfaces, nat'ing, and acls will be a huge benefit when you test.
Nothing will help you learn faster than doing it in a live environment that you use daily.
CCNA Test has no labs on it, its all 1 sentence questions with short answers.
CCNP has sections with labs
also ames you are legit retarded.
Bardalicious
11-19-2015, 11:19 PM
I clicked this thread hoping to find out that Jeremy finally got off of his fat ass and got a job.
Obviously I'm leaving this thread disappointed.
router admin lol im just picturing the elemtal old man computing gif and someone plugging an ethernet cable into a router
Kergan
11-20-2015, 12:19 AM
It's been over 10 years since I got mine, but it was a pretty easy test.
Pick up a cheap PIX off of eBay, and configure it as your router at home.
The practice of setting up the interfaces, nat'ing, and acls will be a huge benefit when you test.
Nothing will help you learn faster than doing it in a live environment that you use daily.
Conceptually I agree with you, but the PIX/ASA line has a different programming language than the rest of the Cisco line so I wouldn't recommend them for training purposes. They also are a firewall not a router, so they can't...route. You'll need to know the basics of EIGRP, OSPF, BGP, etc and a PIX won't help you there. You usually need to upgrade the memory even in the 515Es and better to run anything even close to current IOS wise, and they made a lot of big changes going from 8.3 to 8.4.
If you want to practice just download GNS3 for free. It won't help you with the layer 2 stuff but that shit is pretty mild on the CCNA.
Samsung
11-20-2015, 12:21 AM
I clicked this thread hoping to find out that Jeremy finally got off of his fat ass and got a job.
Obviously I'm leaving this thread disappointed.
Lool
Kergan
11-20-2015, 12:23 AM
CCNA Test has no labs on it, its all 1 sentence questions with short answers.
CCNP has sections with labs
also ames you are legit retarded.
Wrong again. CCNA has labs in it. CCNP has an entire test that is nothing but labs (CCNA troubleshooting). You can also get several other different kinds of questions that aren't "1 sentence questions with short answers" like drag and drop matching and multiple correct answers.
Kergan
11-20-2015, 12:24 AM
err, CCNP troubleshooting...
Trustworthy
11-20-2015, 12:35 AM
Nerds are supposed to be smart. There sure are some dumb nerds in this thread.
fat too
TacoSmasher
11-20-2015, 12:38 AM
Jesus fuck @ pumped trying to act like he knows anything about IT. high level of cringe
h4tch
11-20-2015, 12:51 AM
CCNA Test has no labs on it, its all 1 sentence questions with short answers.
CCNP has sections with labs
also ames you are legit retarded.
This is wrong. The test has a lab, simlet, and testlets. The only thing you won't find is what this troll is talking about.
Download some ios images, and lab up something in gns3. If you live in Minneapolis send me a pm about getting gear.
My company is going to Juniper. JNCIA is probably the easiest cert to get. No simulations like CCNA test.
AzzarTheGod
11-20-2015, 02:01 AM
a man who grows tomatoes for a living is giving career advice? hehe gud1
I don't go out of my way to make irl attacks, but yeah tomatoking whats up with that?
How did you end up becoming a stay-at-home son with your certifications and growing tomatoes?
h4tch
11-20-2015, 02:14 AM
My company is going to Juniper. JNCIA is probably the easiest cert to get. No simulations like CCNA test.
I have a JNCIS-ENT/SEC, going for the JNCIP certs now. I can confirm this shit is a cakewalk compared to cisco test.
AzzarTheGod
11-20-2015, 02:17 AM
Is a JNCIP what you get when you complete community jr college?
Kergan
11-20-2015, 02:36 AM
My company is going to Juniper. JNCIA is probably the easiest cert to get. No simulations like CCNA test.
A lot of companies are. Juniper had a program going (not sure if they still are) that they were allowing people to take exams for free to get certified. People who are certified in a particular product tend to recommend it and implement it.
That being said, I've been dealing with persistent (6+ months) of 2-5 minute outages of primary connectivity between our Minneapolis and Dallas datacenters because of a Juniper IOS bug in the gear from our provider which is causing routing reconvergence. I will probably never even consider Juniper for jack or shit after dealing with these problems due to a stupid bug.
Kergan
11-20-2015, 02:38 AM
This is wrong. The test has a lab, simlet, and testlets. The only thing you won't find is what this troll is talking about.
Download some ios images, and lab up something in gns3. If you live in Minneapolis send me a pm about getting gear.
Yep, spot on here. And another Minneapolis native. We're all over :)
Kergan
11-20-2015, 02:42 AM
Is a JNCIP what you get when you complete community jr college?
Heh...you know, I only have a 2 year technical degree. In the tech field you can replace a lot of traditional education with certifications and shit specifically tailored to what you actually do. There are kids who forgo college completely and spend 1-2 years going nuts on Cisco exams - landing like CCIE R&S and CCIE Security by age 20. Those dudes are often rolling 6 figure incomes before they can legally drink and instead of being 100k in debt from student loans they are out maybe 10k in training materials and lab gear rental.
I'm not going to paint too rosy a picture though, you need to be a fucking bad ass with this shit to stand out in the core networking industry.
I will probably never even consider Juniper for jack or shit after dealing with these problems due to a stupid bug.
Do you guys ever patch?
AzzarTheGod
11-20-2015, 04:54 AM
Heh...you know, I only have a 2 year technical degree. In the tech field you can replace a lot of traditional education with certifications and shit specifically tailored to what you actually do. There are kids who forgo college completely and spend 1-2 years going nuts on Cisco exams - landing like CCIE R&S and CCIE Security by age 20. Those dudes are often rolling 6 figure incomes before they can legally drink and instead of being 100k in debt from student loans they are out maybe 10k in training materials and lab gear rental.
I'm not going to paint too rosy a picture though, you need to be a fucking bad ass with this shit to stand out in the core networking industry.
Oh I don't disagree that the sole purpose of a B.A. at your big Liberal Arts school is to be a closet snob that looks down their nose at anyone hustling tech while you pull down 8 bucks an hour at Starbucks.
A BA used to be a membership card to an economic caste, and its essentially now a membership card to a social caste for corporations that still discriminate on that basis. It still has value, now more situational and no longer a golden ticket to an interview.
Not too long ago (mabe 10 years) IBM for a period of time was only hiring Liberal Arts degrees. You run into various snobbery n such in certain pockets with certain corps.
quido
11-20-2015, 10:17 AM
This is an attempt to broaden my horizons, not find a career =P I figure it would be a good complement to my programming experience, and I already have touched a lot of network topics in my experience.
I'm doing this so I can say to you dumb motherfuckers that I passed this shit after a week of preparation and call you all stupid.
Kergan
11-20-2015, 10:34 AM
Do you guys ever patch?
We do yeah, but this isn't my gear. It is the ISP Juniper chassis in the datacenter (in this case, XO Communications is both the colo operator and ISP). According to them, there isn't a patch for it yet.
Kergan
11-20-2015, 10:37 AM
This is an attempt to broaden my horizons, not find a career =P I figure it would be a good complement to my programming experience, and I already have touched a lot of network topics in my experience.
I'm doing this so I can say to you dumb motherfuckers that I passed this shit after a week of preparation and call you all stupid.
I don't know how good of a complement it would be for a programmer. Honestly, programming would make a better complement for a network person. :P
And if you want to cheese the test you can probably pass in a week. I did all 7 MCSE exams for Windows 2003 in 3 days without studying anything beforehand. But I didn't learn jack shit. No way you're going to learn all the concepts you're being tested on in the CCNA in a week, which makes the piece of paper worthless.
Trustworthy
11-20-2015, 01:31 PM
This is an attempt to broaden my horizons, not find a career =P I figure it would be a good complement to my programming experience
"Programmer" that wants to broaden horizons with a CCNA? Lol! Full of shit. Dumb.
Stick to keeping track of my elf kills and sucking at sports.
quido
11-20-2015, 01:37 PM
I am already familiar with a lot of the topics as I took a 400-level networking class in college - we just had no hands-on experience. Each lab in the class was solvable by brute force (client/server applications). I believe the book learning part of the CCNA should be easy enough given my background. I am good with algorithms and still remember all the Graph Theory stuff like it was yesterday, for the most part, so I really just want to make sure I can get my hands on some actual equipment and set this shit up for real. My roommate said he can get me a Cisco switch from work so that will be a good start. So yes, obviously I won't be as qualified as someone with a CCNA and months or years of hands-on experience, but I'm a pretty quick learner and so far most of this stuff has been pretty intuitive. I consider this a relatively easy challenge and it'd be stupid for someone who is as good a learner and test taker as I am to not get a few easy certs.
I'm going to spend the next few days going through this entire course - https://www.cybrary.it/course/cisco-ccna/ - and once I think I'm at least decent with Packet Tracer (gonna find another resource), I think I'll try out your Nuggets.
quido
11-20-2015, 01:37 PM
I am very good at sports.
miraclegrow2
11-20-2015, 01:43 PM
This is an attempt to broaden my horizons, not find a career =P I figure it would be a good complement to my programming experience, and I already have touched a lot of network topics in my experience.
I'm doing this so I can say to you dumb motherfuckers that I passed this shit after a week of preparation and call you all stupid.
has absolutely jack shit to do with programming, if you want to challenge yourself do it, i got my second MCSE After i had left IT completely just to say i finished, i did 6 exams then took a long break.
Also lol at kergan and tassador in this thread, two of the servers biggest butthurts in history.
Pretend harder you have real careers ahah
quido
11-20-2015, 01:46 PM
you're not exactly a forum all-star there yourself pal
Trustworthy
11-20-2015, 01:49 PM
Bahahaha. You thought you had a friend.
https://fairlyfarley.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/rotten-tomatoes.jpg
Lu|zSect
11-20-2015, 01:50 PM
http://i2.wp.com/www.chinasmack.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/chinese-midget-groom-marriage-wedding-photos-18.jpg?resize=500%2C334
Heebo
11-20-2015, 01:55 PM
You are literally 100% wrong in everything you just said.
This should just be the default response to all Pumped posts.
Kergan
11-20-2015, 02:47 PM
has absolutely jack shit to do with programming, if you want to challenge yourself do it, i got my second MCSE After i had left IT completely just to say i finished, i did 6 exams then took a long break.
Also lol at kergan and tassador in this thread, two of the servers biggest butthurts in history.
Pretend harder you have real careers ahah
It must hurt when you think you're hot shit and you get exposed for being a dumbass. You and Syft can probably console each other after his infamous VPN thread.
quido
11-20-2015, 03:01 PM
Kergan in your opinion, if I went into the CCNA R&S Lab Exam with no hands on experience but lots of packet tracer experience, what would be my biggest problems? What's that exam like?
Trustworthy
11-20-2015, 03:03 PM
packet tracer
Lu|zSect
11-20-2015, 03:03 PM
http://d.justpo.st/media/images/2014/05/4d1aade3cb209dc4e0b38ccd410cc15d.gif
Trustworthy
11-20-2015, 03:06 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Yg5g7QF.gif
quido
11-20-2015, 03:09 PM
Cisco's Packet Tracer isn't quite as advanced as Jupe's Packet Lagger, but they're in the same league at least.
Trustworthy
11-20-2015, 03:11 PM
Cisco's Packet Tracer isn't quite as advanced as Jupe's Packet Lagger, but they're in the same league at least.
Your packet tracer leads you right to dudes.
Eslade
11-20-2015, 03:12 PM
yours leads to dudes in blue jeans that bash your face in and break your legs.
Nirgon
11-20-2015, 03:39 PM
I imagine him calling a bunch of the rough neck guys from the bar scene in Dallas Buyers' Club racist pieces of trashed and getting tossed like an asian salad onto the side walk
Lu|zSect
11-20-2015, 03:40 PM
brutally assaulted
l o l
Rhuobhe
11-20-2015, 04:13 PM
CCNA needs to be renewed every 2-3 years is this still the case? I got my Network+ 10 years ago that was easy as hell but I'm not a network engineer.
h4tch
11-20-2015, 04:17 PM
This is an attempt to broaden my horizons, not find a career =P I figure it would be a good complement to my programming experience, and I already have touched a lot of network topics in my experience.
I'm doing this so I can say to you dumb motherfuckers that I passed this shit after a week of preparation and call you all stupid.
http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/certifications/specialist/network/spec_bus_appDev.html
Huge push right now for either programmers with some solid network skills, or network eng with some solid programming skills. I think this field is going to open up into huge money. You could be lazy and still make over 100k remotely. "The dream"
Rhuobhe
11-20-2015, 04:26 PM
Big thing I see now is VMware and storage but unless you're some kind of genius or you have lots of years of IT experience there's no way you are going to land a real job doing any of these things. If you want to go to school or pass an exam to make money I suggest another field.
h4tch
11-20-2015, 05:13 PM
Big thing I see now is VMware and storage but unless you're some kind of genius or you have lots of years of IT experience there's no way you are going to land a real job doing any of these things. If you want to go to school or pass an exam to make money I suggest another field.
I work for a Fortune 100 company, that would hire someone with just a CCNA, and a general knowledge of computers. These clowns have no idea what they are talking about.
P.S. It's shitty to troll real life advice type post. I can't tell if some of you guys are trolls, or just dumbasses talking out your ass though.
h4tch
11-20-2015, 05:15 PM
I work for a Fortune 100 company, that would hire someone with just a CCNA, and a general knowledge of computers. These clowns have no idea what they are talking about.
P.S. It's shitty to troll real life advice type post. I can't tell if some of you guys are trolls, or just dumbasses talking out your ass though.
I should clarify this entry level job is for a network eng that pays 65k + bonus.
Rhuobhe
11-20-2015, 05:21 PM
I work for a Fortune 100 company, that would hire someone with just a CCNA, and a general knowledge of computers. These clowns have no idea what they are talking about.
P.S. It's shitty to troll real life advice type post. I can't tell if some of you guys are trolls, or just dumbasses talking out your ass though.
You sound like a IT warm body. Would never allow someone like that unless they are making entry level money - anyone can get a CCNA and have general computer knowledge. Probably have a bunch of incompetent IT workers in your fortune 100 company. warm body manager. are you technical?
Rhuobhe
11-20-2015, 05:22 PM
I should clarify this entry level job is for a network eng that pays 65k + bonus.
Oh you are in Minneapolis. nevermind
Kergan
11-20-2015, 06:46 PM
Kergan in your opinion, if I went into the CCNA R&S Lab Exam with no hands on experience but lots of packet tracer experience, what would be my biggest problems? What's that exam like?
hehe
But seriously, with no hands on experience you won't be impacted too much on the CCNA exam. It helps for sure, but it is mostly testing you on facts. Like you'll get a question that asks what routing protocol has an administrative distance of 90 and give you EIGRP, BGP, OSPF and RIP as choices. In the real world if you didn't know you'd spend 5 seconds googling it.
You'll probably struggle a little more than a more experienced person at the labs, but it is possible you don't get a lab at all or just 1. Or you could get 3. The labs you go in and have to actually configure a simulated router and/or switch. The tasks are really simple but if you've never actually logged into gear and played around before you won't know the exact commands and shit, but usually the help stuff is available.
So in your study spend a little extra time on the lab scenarios and how to recognize which scenario you got if one pops up.
Other thing I will say is watch your time. Some exams you can go back to a previous question (like M$ exams for example), but with Cisco ones once you click next it's done. People taking the CCNA for the first time often run out of time - I think its either 90 minutes or 2 hours for 60-80 questions depending on how many simlets, drag and drops and labs you get.
Kergan
11-20-2015, 06:48 PM
CCNA needs to be renewed every 2-3 years is this still the case? I got my Network+ 10 years ago that was easy as hell but I'm not a network engineer.
3 years initially, then individual CCNP exams and some other things will renew it for 2 years each one you pass. If you want to keep going with certifications it helps to sorta plan it out, because a P level exam will renew any A level exams, but A levels wont renew P levels, etc.
Kergan
11-20-2015, 06:51 PM
Oh you are in Minneapolis. nevermind
Minneapolis is considered one of the better cities in the country for IT positions. For example, Robert Half Technology rates it as plus modifier for pay (so you make more than average money doing the same job in Minneapolis). There are a lot of huge companies HQ'd there like 3M, Best Buy and Target to name a few.
Trustworthy
11-20-2015, 06:53 PM
hehe
But seriously, with no hands on experience you won't be impacted too much on the CCNA exam. It helps for sure, but it is mostly testing you on facts. Like you'll get a question that asks what routing protocol has an administrative distance of 90 and give you EIGRP, BGP, OSPF and RIP as choices. In the real world if you didn't know you'd spend 5 seconds googling it.
You'll probably struggle a little more than a more experienced person at the labs, but it is possible you don't get a lab at all or just 1. Or you could get 3. The labs you go in and have to actually configure a simulated router and/or switch. The tasks are really simple but if you've never actually logged into gear and played around before you won't know the exact commands and shit, but usually the help stuff is available.
So in your study spend a little extra time on the lab scenarios and how to recognize which scenario you got if one pops up.
Other thing I will say is watch your time. Some exams you can go back to a previous question (like M$ exams for example), but with Cisco ones once you click next it's done. People taking the CCNA for the first time often run out of time - I think its either 90 minutes or 2 hours for 60-80 questions depending on how many simlets, drag and drops and labs you get.
Write a book about it fgt
Kergan
11-20-2015, 06:57 PM
Big thing I see now is VMware and storage but unless you're some kind of genius or you have lots of years of IT experience there's no way you are going to land a real job doing any of these things. If you want to go to school or pass an exam to make money I suggest another field.
VMWare and storage are certainly good fields to get into, but there is a lot of push to move to hosted services even for larger companies at this point. You don't even need a guy on staff that knows EMC for example, if you're just purchasing storage from Azure or AWS. There is also a push among cloud providers to provide hosted application services rather than just selling you a virtual machine. You don't need a virtualization guy if you're just paying a monthly fee for an SQL instance in the cloud, for example.
You know what person you need no matter if you're using the cloud or on premise, or if you virtualize or don't? A core network person. Everything still has to connect.
h4tch
11-20-2015, 08:04 PM
Minneapolis is considered one of the better cities in the country for IT positions. For example, Robert Half Technology rates it as plus modifier for pay (so you make more than average money doing the same job in Minneapolis). There are a lot of huge companies HQ'd there like 3M, Best Buy and Target to name a few.
He is just trying to cover his ass for looking like a dumbass know-nothing that runs his mouth. He isn't worth replying too.
Minneapolis is awesome in general for IT. The unemployment rate is around 4%. It's very competitive market for IT professionals. We have hired guys without much more then a CCNA.
Rhuobhe
11-20-2015, 08:36 PM
He is just trying to cover his ass for looking like a dumbass know-nothing that runs his mouth. He isn't worth replying too.
Minneapolis is awesome in general for IT. The unemployment rate is around 4%. It's very competitive market for IT professionals. We have hired guys without much more then a CCNA.
Its Minneapolis. Minneapolis is not on anyones map outside of MN. Thats why the salaries are so great and you don't need to know very much to have a decent wage and low living expenses. If you told me you were NY, LA etc i would praise you. But you just live in a small town that is giving money away to know nothings like you to live there and raise families. I respect that.
AzzarTheGod
11-20-2015, 08:39 PM
Its Minneapolis. Minneapolis is not on anyones map outside of MN. Thats why the salaries are so great and you don't need to know very much to have a decent wage and low living expenses. If you told me you were NY, LA etc i would praise you. But you just live in a small town that is giving money away to know nothings like you to live there and raise families. I respect that.
lol I laughed, the laughter of recognition. This is the truth.
AzzarTheGod
11-20-2015, 08:44 PM
MN is a bunch of know-nothings being paid a frontend salary investment to raise a family and contribute to growing the labor force.
It is not considered making it in the IT industry and 65k for a no-nothing is akin to government subsidized jobs.
I wonder what economic incentives the government gives corporations in MN, they probably pay 30k of your no-nothing 65k salary. That must be the MN "No-Nothing Tax".
h4tch
11-20-2015, 08:51 PM
Its Minneapolis. Minneapolis is not on anyones map outside of MN. Thats why the salaries are so great and you don't need to know very much to have a decent wage and low living expenses. If you told me you were NY, LA etc i would praise you. But you just live in a small town that is giving money away to know nothings like you to live there and raise families. I respect that.
MN is a bunch of know-nothings being paid a frontend salary investment to raise a family and contribute to growing the labor force.
It is not considered making it in the IT industry and 65k for a no-nothing is akin to government subsidized jobs.
I wonder what economic incentives the government gives corporations in MN, they probably pay 30k of your no-nothing 65k salary. That must be the MN "No-Nothing Tax".
Both talking shit, and trying and to laugh now when they get called out for looking at dumbasses. Go back home with your A+ cert boy, and talk shit to people who don't know better.
Rhuobhe
11-20-2015, 09:19 PM
Both talking shit, and trying and to laugh now when they get called out for looking at dumbasses. Go back home with your A+ cert boy, and talk shit to people who don't know better.
:rolleyes: i don't need to talk about my expertise
I'm sorry if i offend anyone. I'm just teaching this jerk some manners when he posts on this forums about how little people know here and about how he works in a fortune 100 company LOL
Such arrogance. Go back to your stupid little life in godamn Minneapolis.
h4tch
11-20-2015, 09:32 PM
:rolleyes: i don't need to talk about my expertise
I'm sorry if i offend anyone. I'm just teaching this jerk some manners when he posts on this forums about how little people know here and about how he works in a fortune 100 company LOL
Such arrogance. Go back to your stupid little life in godamn Minneapolis.
You don't have any expertise. I would glady listen you talk about the in/out's of your A+ cert all day, or whatever janitor gig you have in New York. You got called out for not knowing anything, and giving RL advise. As all you morons do you use the most common argument fallacy of attacking the speaker. You can't disqualify me by certs, exp, or knowledge level, so let's try location. That's makes zero fucking sense.
Crawl back in your hole, troll.
Rhuobhe
11-20-2015, 09:39 PM
You don't have any expertise. I would glady listen you talk about the in/out's of your A+ cert all day, or whatever janitor gig you have in New York. You got called out for not knowing anything, and giving RL advise. As all you morons do you use the most common argument fallacy of attacking the speaker. You can't disqualify me by certs, exp, or knowledge level, so let's try location. That's makes zero fucking sense.
Crawl back in your hole, troll.
Just stop posting you make yourself look worse. I can see why people from Minneapolis have a severe inferiority complex about their little town.
h4tch
11-20-2015, 09:42 PM
Just stop posting you make yourself look worse. I can see why people from Minneapolis have a severe inferiority complex about their little town.
Apparently it's a hell of a lot better then wherever you are from, if you we are believe to you.
FFS guys, if you are to troll, and flame at least don't become recursive with it.
This guy is trying to shit on Minneapolis all the while claiming it has a better job market.
You can't make this shit up.
Rhuobhe
11-20-2015, 10:04 PM
Apparently it's a hell of a lot better then wherever you are from, if you we are believe to you.
FFS guys, if you are to troll, and flame at least don't become recursive with it.
This guy is trying to shit on Minneapolis all the while claiming it has a better job market.
You can't make this shit up.
I'm sorry you're mad but i can't continue arguing with you. I need to keep playing Mario 3D world with my kids using the Wii U i purchased with my fortune 100 salary.
Perhaps if you didnt live in Minneapolis you would have better things to do with your time than replying to this thread. Get outside and find the one that you love.
h4tch
11-20-2015, 10:09 PM
I'm sorry you're mad but i can't continue arguing with you. I need to keep playing Mario 3D world with my kids using the Wii U i purchased with my fortune 100 salary.
Perhaps if you didnt live in Minneapolis you would have better things to do with your time than replying to this thread. Get outside and find the one that you love.
I tell ya what we can just talk all this over at Cisco Live this year. I assume you'll be there since it's right down the road. You can even get a drunk off my company since they will hosting a few parties.
Rhuobhe
11-20-2015, 10:29 PM
I tell ya what we can just talk all this over at Cisco Live this year. I assume you'll be there since it's right down the road. You can even get a drunk off my company since they will hosting a few parties.
Do the people Cisco Live know that you're a creeper?
h4tch
11-20-2015, 10:47 PM
Do the people Cisco Live know that you're a creeper?
So much for the kids huh? Trying to not pretend you don't look the complete moron to internet strangers is somehow more important then family time. :sad
Rhuobhe
11-20-2015, 10:58 PM
So much for the kids huh? Trying to not pretend you don't look the complete moron to internet strangers is somehow more important then family time. :sad
Lol. Creep
Kergan
11-20-2015, 11:00 PM
lol jeez, this thread went downhill fast. Don't get trolled h4tch :)
Trustworthy
11-20-2015, 11:01 PM
H4tch:
http://www.pluss.org.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Gentleman-with-Downs-Syndrome-working-on-a-laptop.jpg
Rhuobhe
11-20-2015, 11:15 PM
I would hate to work with someone like h4tch. Dude probably has titty attack every time he encounters a major problem. It is unprofessional.
Trustworthy
11-20-2015, 11:27 PM
http://www.onlinehumanresources.net/images/downs-syndrome-employee.jpg
miraclegrow2
11-21-2015, 10:49 PM
Rhuobhe has shut this thread down pretty much.
Kergan
11-21-2015, 10:51 PM
trolls will be trolls
can't have decent threads go on too long here we have a rep to maintain
miraclegrow2
11-21-2015, 10:57 PM
2 minutes and you had a response
holy shit are you a life failure.
Kergan
11-21-2015, 11:07 PM
watching the ND/BC game on nbcsports online and making good use of commercial timeouts
sorry I made you mad by proving you are a dumb ass
Trustworthy
11-21-2015, 11:08 PM
https://forum.encyclopediadramatica.se/attachments/down-20syndrome-20man-20at-20work-jpg.36997/
quido
11-21-2015, 11:41 PM
I am shocked and amazed that Hateraid is still willing to post on these forums. I cringe every time I see one of his posts.
quido
11-21-2015, 11:42 PM
Remember when he used to post pictures of cash?
Lu|zSect
11-21-2015, 11:51 PM
300/50000 met donate today
Trustworthy
11-22-2015, 12:15 AM
runs pixelated elf combat leaderboard for a living.
http://media.giphy.com/media/gw3C71R3QMD13yGQ/giphy.gif
Lu|zSect
11-22-2015, 12:39 AM
http://media.vocativ.com/photos/2015/01/Slumdogs-Sin-City-Poster4005949412.jpg
Tradesonred
11-22-2015, 08:39 AM
I just decided today to start studying for the CCNA. I have minimal network experience and have never done anything on the enterprise level.
Have any of you guys done it or tried to do it? How much preparation did you require? I'm planning to breeze through this stuff and give it a shot. I bet I don't need even one tenth the time of all you stupid motherfuckers out there.
Ya morans
Thats why you want to work a corporate jOb, because of your stellar intelligence
Stalos_
11-22-2015, 10:27 AM
Decent thread derailed by man-boys arguing about salaries/who's got more worthy nerd-cert-trophies.
miraclegrow2
11-22-2015, 03:01 PM
I don't think you can call anyone a man boy with an obi 1 avatar and an anarchy sig
you are like 12
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