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Darksinga
11-18-2015, 11:07 PM
Nice read before it burned up in flames.

Empire wants it to be beneficial only, 3 random slot dispell.

Rest of server (for obvious reasons,) wants it to be top 3 slot, beneficial and detrimental.

Coming from a 100% unbiased opinion, here is what I have gathered:

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhistory.html?id=1792&source=Live&setcookie=1

2004-12-15 10:29 Changed Slot 1 from "Cancel Magic(9)" to "Fading Memories"

We can all agree here that the spell data was changed from Cancel Magic to Fading Memories, which all are in agreement that Fading Memories (not the bard AA,) is a random slot dispell.

Now, if this is the case, why are there so many conflicts on the comments of allakhazam in regards to people saying this item skip slots?

"Not sure what you guys saying - but as far as I know, the effect on this staff is an unlimited right clickable and targetable dispell. And even better, it's my understanding it only dispells "positive" buffs, so you can use it on mobs after other buffs have already been cast, like Malo and Occlusion.

-- Zwoop"

However, we all know of buff counters (the explanation for skipping.)

"you have a bunch of idiotic quotes of people not knowing how buff counters work"-Tune

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176274

Seems like magic dots will randomly have a massive dispell counter.

Assuming that a magic dot is top slotted, if I dispell myself with nullify magic 50% of the time it will come off and the other 50% It will systematically strip every single one of my buffs until I have no buffs left and the same DoT still sitting there after eating like 10 dispell counters.

^^
Showing that even with a strength 9 dispell the dispell CAN skip detrimentals."

sorry that you don't like classic mechanics then

necros were p much the best 1v1 class in the game
-Colgate showing that he agrees to the fact that pell should only sometimes skip. Same for the rod.

TLDR: give Gongshow his 250 range, make Abashi not pell benefical only and work as regular cancel magic (9).

Darksinga
11-18-2015, 11:08 PM
even with recant its still an issue (i have 3 junk clicks) it often just skips the dot or debuff and strips my entire buff bar

Stalos_
11-19-2015, 08:48 AM
it was a good read. Can't blame any of empire for trying to get more than the range buffed. Pretty sure zerg/non zergling getting this staff first would of petition-quested immediately.

Jettison
11-19-2015, 10:12 AM
Abashi rod on live was a 3 buff random slot dispel beneficial only. Source? Owned one on my necro on Live.

Xaanka
11-19-2015, 10:51 AM
I'd show you my Abashi Rod but I'm not allowed within 500ft of a school zone

http://image.blingee.com/images19/content/output/000/000/000/7d9/794871198_534635.gif

lite
11-19-2015, 10:55 AM
So at the moment what does this item do?

quido
11-19-2015, 10:56 AM
If you click it on someone they quit the server.

Macc
11-19-2015, 10:58 AM
If you click it on someone they quit the server.

Not gonna lie got a smile out of me.

Xaanka
11-19-2015, 11:01 AM
If you click it on someone they quit the server.

lite
11-19-2015, 11:05 AM
If you click it on someone they quit the server.

If I got a slot 13/14/15 vog aego sow pelled by a 250 range dispell... i probably would, lmfao.

Chuck was right, Velious really is the end of good pvp.

lite
11-19-2015, 11:08 AM
You do realize velious is a scenario that p much begins the end of all good pvp in everquest?

Xaanka
11-19-2015, 11:11 AM
Chuck was right, Velious really is the end of good pvp.

unless you play a melee, then velious is awesome

Seltius
11-19-2015, 11:16 AM
Just roll without buffs(or self buffs only) and don't take yt so personal. Its 1 item on 1 player its not like Gongshow is going to be everywhere and always using it on you. Get 25 good friends and focus him when you see him there.

Now when my petition to turn it into a 250 range ae spell goes through and they make the change then everyone can get upset. But if I get it changed to that Gongshow I want an Abashi's for my work.

DRAGONBAIT
11-19-2015, 12:10 PM
If I got a slot 13/14/15 vog aego sow pelled by a 250 range dispell... i probably would, lmfao.

Chuck was right, Velious really is the end of good pvp.

and now please everyone reroll and stay on lvl 55 for some real pvp thanks.

Stalos_
11-19-2015, 01:20 PM
With all the back and forth in the locked thread I do think the staff will see the would-be broken aspect of the item like they did trak teeth for pvp. Except this time it won't take the resistance looting the "tooth" for nerf.

:)

miraclegrow2
11-19-2015, 01:25 PM
if you click it, it automatically prints a random job application from your printer.

Heebo
11-19-2015, 01:25 PM
Nice read before it burned up in flames.

Empire wants it to be beneficial only, 3 random slot dispell.

Rest of server (for obvious reasons,) wants it to be top 3 slot, beneficial and detrimental.

Coming from a 100% unbiased opinion, here is what I have gathered:

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhistory.html?id=1792&source=Live&setcookie=1

2004-12-15 10:29 Changed Slot 1 from "Cancel Magic(9)" to "Fading Memories"

We can all agree here that the spell data was changed from Cancel Magic to Fading Memories, which all are in agreement that Fading Memories (not the bard AA,) is a random slot dispell.

Now, if this is the case, why are there so many conflicts on the comments of allakhazam in regards to people saying this item skip slots?

"Not sure what you guys saying - but as far as I know, the effect on this staff is an unlimited right clickable and targetable dispell. And even better, it's my understanding it only dispells "positive" buffs, so you can use it on mobs after other buffs have already been cast, like Malo and Occlusion.

-- Zwoop"

However, we all know of buff counters (the explanation for skipping.)

"you have a bunch of idiotic quotes of people not knowing how buff counters work"-Tune

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176274



^^
Showing that even with a strength 9 dispell the dispell CAN skip detrimentals."


-Colgate showing that he agrees to the fact that pell should only sometimes skip. Same for the rod.

TLDR: give Gongshow his 250 range, make Abashi not pell benefical only and work as regular cancel magic (9).

Nah