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DRAGONBAIT
11-09-2015, 09:20 AM
thats it, would make much more sense to have the trading done there like back in the day in tz, i wont bother to number the reasons why its a better place cos its so obvious plus on our server 70% of the pop in the old world is on faydwer so...i would move my mule who is at NFP right now if the community agreed, in a matter of days we could have all the trading moved to kelethin.


Thoughts? plz say yes and lets do this as a comminuty guys. cant hurt

unleashedd
11-09-2015, 09:23 AM
yes

#cringe #immersion #KerraIsle

krazyGlue
11-09-2015, 09:52 AM
i like freeport

OfftuneRZ
11-09-2015, 09:55 AM
Gfay was the trading post on Rallos Zek as well. I vote yes.

Redi
11-09-2015, 10:07 AM
no kelethin awful, excludes evils etc

Trelk
11-09-2015, 10:20 AM
much thought went into this proposal

Seltius
11-09-2015, 10:29 AM
I vote cabilis because its obvious that Iksar is the superior race.

Niedar
11-09-2015, 10:47 AM
Please do bother with the number of reasons why it is a better place.

dacBANe666
11-09-2015, 11:50 AM
EC tunnel and we all just agree to use the honor system and not kill anyone

Nocsucow
11-09-2015, 11:58 AM
naw let's move it to the city of kings ... cabilis

miraclegrow2
11-09-2015, 12:19 PM
as a rallos vet i loved gfay trading hub, evils can bank through the window, theres no multiple zoning to reach the bank either.

plus its one of the coolest zones in the game, and would bring lots of life to one of the best leveling areas ever.
cb!

port right in and bam you are rocking.

Rastignac
11-09-2015, 12:23 PM
is it really more difficult for evils?

If not it's obviously less of a hassle to get to.

Redi
11-09-2015, 12:28 PM
evil traversing the treetop city to bank through a window sounds awful

pass

Uton
11-09-2015, 12:41 PM
i for one would love to see an exodus of lvl 1 bank alts to gfay. the great air lift of r99

Genedin
11-09-2015, 12:53 PM
Rallos zek was so cool because of kelethin bank.

any new character I started would get moved to Gfay ASAP. Not only could you beg buffs off high lvls to pwr lvl yourself, there was an abundance of low lvl pvp to be had.

precious memories

Trustworthy
11-09-2015, 01:15 PM
evils can bank through the window

http://cdn.gifbay.com/2012/12/like_a_fat_kid_loves_cake-16820.gif

DRAGONBAIT
11-09-2015, 01:28 PM
wiz spires on the same zone. no zoning. druid rings so damn close also. evils can bank much easier than in freeport, ganking is easier to avoid also. and most of the low lvl pop, twinks and pop up to lvl 40 is on faydwer. It was the trading hub pre-bazaar on tallon zek and other pvp servers for a reason. Freeport makes no sense really, not sure what would be needed to move this as a community but im trying to make a point here

Tassador
11-09-2015, 01:30 PM
EC tunnel and we all just agree to use the honor system and not kill anyone

Lol this got my vote. Also can't believe op made a thread on this just start the trend by not allowing any of your trades be completed outside of gfay. Personally I only trade in grobb

DRAGONBAIT
11-09-2015, 01:31 PM
evil traversing the treetop city to bank through a window sounds awful

pass


yet zoning more than 5 times from a wiz spire or druid ring is better? going two zones into a city full of guards is safer than traversing thru a city where u can jump down and run with no guards around if pvp happens right?


really, how do we do this? we should.

Malevz
11-09-2015, 01:33 PM
http://cdn.gifbay.com/2012/12/like_a_fat_kid_loves_cake-16820.gif

Reported for using my RL pics.

beta
11-09-2015, 01:33 PM
Zone line is to far

Rastignac
11-09-2015, 01:35 PM
Reported for using my RL pics.

I think this sounds like a fun idea but I can't even focus on it because this gif is has too mauch powa. the jowels are entrancing me.

DRAGONBAIT
11-09-2015, 01:38 PM
Zone line is to far

haha i know this is a troll, but for those bothering with this, in everquest pvp if u start running u cant get killed so it doenst mind if the zone is 20 secs farthest really, we could make it all together, peak time, i got a portbot so i can help, we gather al the fkn mules and we fkn port over and take over kelethin xd

Uton
11-09-2015, 01:51 PM
does Z axis count as distance to out range nukes?

DRAGONBAIT
11-09-2015, 01:52 PM
no skeletal u gotta move backwards for that to work sorry

Malevz
11-09-2015, 01:52 PM
I think this sounds like a fun idea but I can't even focus on it because this gif is has too mauch powa. the jowels are entrancing me.

Sometimes we lube up our jowls with bacon grease and motorboat each others necks.

Uton
11-09-2015, 01:56 PM
in everquest pvp if u start running u cant get killed

ok genius, so how would dropping down help? take fall dmg then eat an ice comet? another intelligent post by the guy who lives exclusively in his mid 40s.

Who do you play now?

miraclegrow2
11-09-2015, 02:51 PM
line of sight is required to start casting the spell, the bank room is small. worst case scenario you eat one ice comet which wont kill anyone.

banking through the window is very easy, and any high levels have invis.

its the best trade hub ever, and not having a place where we can buy / sell has always been very detrimental to new players and old alike on red99

on beta i voted gfay and it was turned down, still listed as TBD Trade hub.

Seltius
11-09-2015, 03:01 PM
I vote move it to Runnyeye. The locals are friendly to everyone and its not near any rings or spires. I am sure all level 1s are looked at in the same light in Runnyeye whether your a Halfling or a Iksar.


Oh and they always have their Eye on you.



"I always feel like somebody's watching meeeee. I want my privacy."

Trustworthy
11-09-2015, 03:14 PM
line of sight is required to start casting the spell, the bank room is small. worst case scenario you eat one ice comet which wont kill anyone.

banking through the window is very easy, and any high levels have invis.

its the best trade hub ever, and not having a place where we can buy / sell has always been very detrimental to new players and old alike on red99

on beta i voted gfay and it was turned down, still listed as TBD Trade hub.

cool dude. write a book about it. no one cares. trading will continue in nfp. thx

Rastignac
11-09-2015, 03:15 PM
just to play devil's advocate - what is the advantage of NFP? It is pretty far from porting zones.

Trustworthy
11-09-2015, 03:46 PM
just to play devil's advocate - what is the advantage of NFP? It is pretty far from porting zones.

I agree. It is pretty far and out of the way, but seems like the only real logical place that lights, darks as well as new players can access. Also travel to OT and back. Gfay is just too hard for darks to travel to and bank at.

Nirgon
11-09-2015, 03:49 PM
Maybe darks should stay outta there u catch my drift

Rastignac
11-09-2015, 03:50 PM
I agree. It is pretty far and out of the way, but seems like the only real logical place that lights, darks as well as new players can access. Also travel to OT and back. Gfay is just too hard for darks to travel to and bank at.

I guess that's what I don't get (cuz noob) but why is FP easier for evils? There are a million goodie NPCs patrolling...

tarran
11-09-2015, 03:58 PM
freeport sucks.
that's all

Trustworthy
11-09-2015, 04:11 PM
Maybe darks should stay outta there u catch my drift

That's always your drift. That's why you are fat an unhappy though =).

Enjoy the federal heat from selling drugs here. karma is a biotch =) heehee!

Efwan
11-09-2015, 04:42 PM
just to play devil's advocate - what is the advantage of NFP? It is pretty far from porting zones.

This in my opinion is a huge advantage in itself. Noone is going to instantly port right to you and gank you when they see you are in zone. Most cases people would have to port WC and run 3 zones over just not worth it most of the time. Gfay trading won't happen here guys deal with it, it's stupid.


Also, Freeport is alot smaller so if invis was wearing off at a bad time you should be able to make it to zone even with pvp on you. Gfay? Good luck.

DRAGONBAIT
11-09-2015, 04:44 PM
but seems like the only real logical place that lights, darks as well as new players can access.

erm...what?

really? so u telling me thats easier to go from grobb and neriak and thats the reason nfp is better over kelethin? i really dont understand why people is so dumb

u have a wiz spyre at gfay, ure 20pp away from there as a darkie. be lvl 1 be lvl 60.

DRAGONBAIT
11-09-2015, 04:46 PM
This in my opinion is a huge advantage in itself. Noone is going to instantly port right to you and gank you when they see you are in zone..


the blues being represented here. u gotta hear everyones point of view

Efwan
11-09-2015, 04:49 PM
i really dont understand why people is so dumb

u have a wiz spyre at gfay, ure 20pp away from there as a darkie. be lvl 1 be lvl 60.

Jesus christ, no wonder why you aren't in any guild or over level 55. Retardation would set in and you would be the new Tooti.

Seltius
11-09-2015, 04:54 PM
the blues being represented here. u gotta hear everyones point of view

Come on down to Runnyeye! Remember we got our evil eye on you.

Trustworthy
11-09-2015, 05:03 PM
erm...what?

really? so u telling me thats easier to go from grobb and neriak and thats the reason nfp is better over kelethin? i really dont understand why people is so dumb

u have a wiz spyre at gfay, ure 20pp away from there as a darkie. be lvl 1 be lvl 60.

You def sound like the smart one here. After 5 years and thousands of players, you are the chosen one.

cronik
11-09-2015, 06:54 PM
I don't play here (just waiting for Discord), but on gfay banking...

I used to PK at gfay bank all the time, albeit before velious. You can zone in as a wiz, light people up, loot, and lev/shadowstep away (SS usually puts you on the ground fairly far away) long before guards were a serious issue.

Thing with people banking is they're no where near as alert as people xp'ing, so as a PK it was a regular rotation to bop into gfay for a quick and easy kill on people who are nowhere near as alert as someone in lguk trying to hold 2-3 camps down.

FP seems weird to me, but I wouldn't bother PKing there since it would be so hard to access. Not worth the time for a maybe-kill with complications.

DRAGONBAIT
11-09-2015, 08:35 PM
You def sound like the smart one here. After 5 years and thousands of players, you are the chosen one.


i like ur arguments. after 5 years and thousands of players kelethin was chosen as the trading hub for every pvp server. i bet u didnt play in one of those since u dont know. this is nothing i came up with, its common sense but trying to get u guys to use common sense instead of ur epeen is kinda hard

DRAGONBAIT
11-09-2015, 08:45 PM
Jesus christ, no wonder why you aren't in any guild or over level 55. Retardation would set in and you would be the new Tooti.

ofc, for the 1938712893719823 time i will say that english is not my mother language and that if i can get myself to be understood thas enough. I think ure the only retarded here my friend, judgin by ur posts on this forums

Trustworthy
11-09-2015, 08:47 PM
i like ur arguments. after 5 years and thousands of players kelethin was chosen as the trading hub for every pvp server. i bet u didnt play in one of those since u dont know. this is nothing i came up with, its common sense but trying to get u guys to use common sense instead of ur epeen is kinda hard

you're kinda stupid...

DRAGONBAIT
11-09-2015, 08:51 PM
you're kinda stupid...

i just jump in here in combat mode. im sorry if im rude exposing my arguments.


tldr move ur asses to kelethin plz.

cronik
11-09-2015, 09:06 PM
i like ur arguments. after 5 years and thousands of players kelethin was chosen as the trading hub for every pvp server. i bet u didnt play in one of those since u dont know. this is nothing i came up with, its common sense but trying to get u guys to use common sense instead of ur epeen is kinda hard

Kelethin was never the trading hub on Rallos. We didn't really have one though. You set up a trade and agreed to meet somewhere.

There were a decent number of trades and banking done in kelethin because it was convenient... And convenient to PK in.

I probably made more from kelethin than I did dungeon kills. It was no OOT, but man were they easy kills that sometimes really paid off.

Uton
11-10-2015, 12:00 PM
you're kinda stupid...

I've been waiting for the FQ awakening of this repeatedly proven fact.

Thank you, I'm not crazy

HippoNipple
11-10-2015, 12:02 PM
i just jump in here in combat mode. im sorry if im rude exposing my arguments.


tldr move ur asses to kelethin plz.

You are such a queer.

maerilith
11-10-2015, 12:08 PM
Discord 99, wipe it clean 2016, Hillary 2016, Teams99.

miraclegrow2
11-10-2015, 12:12 PM
no x 3

maerilith
11-10-2015, 12:15 PM
TBH getting rid of global/ooc/auction would be gr8 and fix ur probs OP, lobby harder, I hear rogean accepts PERSONAL *gifts.

Uton
11-10-2015, 01:05 PM
You are such a queer.

^^

Star
11-10-2015, 01:07 PM
no kelethin awful, excludes evils etc

Redi would prefer if you moved it to McDonald's instead.

DRAGONBAIT
11-10-2015, 07:15 PM
as usuall i looked up what does queer means, at first i read "sexual minority" and first thought was, yeah, theyre all like a bit gay, then i read that its a rude way to call someone homosexual : (

anyways ure all a bit gay, specially uton.

OfftuneRZ
11-12-2015, 04:40 PM
Ok so starting in the next few days guys please move your trader alts to Gfay so we can make this a quick and clean transition.

DRAGONBAIT
11-12-2015, 05:53 PM
im gonna load on my druid in some minutes and /ooc free ports + sow + skin to mules moving to kelething. no jokes really

pd: not my druid, someones druid.

Tassador
11-12-2015, 10:35 PM
ps reported for sharing accounts and possibly boxing

DRAGONBAIT
11-13-2015, 02:28 AM
id box if i knew how to setup a virtual machine. i really dont understand why 2boxing is not allowed on this server. i bet blues would cry or pop would raise and blue would have less people.

Movember
11-13-2015, 03:33 AM
No.

Kergan
11-13-2015, 04:15 AM
id box if i knew how to setup a virtual machine. i really dont understand why 2boxing is not allowed on this server. i bet blues would cry or pop would raise and blue would have less people.

I would petition this but I legitimately believe you are too dumb to figure out how to cheat.

AxerJ
11-13-2015, 06:43 AM
I totally agree with the OP. Just a simple statement of support. An ssos. An s-sauce.

TheBiznessTZ
11-13-2015, 08:01 AM
i approve of this. i really don't vendor or trade much cause im not a plat whore. Usually always done most of my trading on my mains anyways.

Gaunja
11-13-2015, 08:11 AM
My trader needs a port. Can't port myself :(

Swish
11-13-2015, 08:37 AM
get the boat, stop moaning

cronik
11-13-2015, 09:16 AM
Wait

Are you idiots actually listening to this tone-deaf pied piper?

Mind. Blown.

Uton
11-13-2015, 10:11 AM
Wait

Are you idiots actually listening to this tone-deaf pied piper?

Mind. Blown.

What ever it takes for trolls to troll it seems

Uton
11-13-2015, 10:12 AM
Just get a corpse stuck in that window at the kelethin bank and this whole thing will die

Swish
11-13-2015, 10:25 AM
/hidec all - u new?

Uton
11-13-2015, 10:29 AM
Damnit, forgot. I've been thwarted...

Quick someone think of something... O how about the nfp free trade union coordinates parking a lvl 1 at the window so no one can click the banker?

Salaryman
11-13-2015, 10:37 AM
Move the trading hub to Erudin its the most well fortified city, has a port ready for boats.
I am regularly defending the docks from sea monsters.
Erudin has the worlds finest books it also has all the books, Deepwater knights live there.

LostCause
11-13-2015, 10:46 AM
naw

Skillslam
11-13-2015, 10:53 AM
Throwing in support for Cab. The lesser races can trade down in the scummy canals as is fitting

DRAGONBAIT
11-13-2015, 10:54 AM
yeah, my ic is higher than the one of those who call me dumb. Ive never cheated on a game since i like it hard mode, otherwise is just too easy, way too easy. Some people cheat, i hand down cure pots before i engage in pvp so fight is not easy.

i bet things would go better for u all if u listened to people and used ur brain instead of ur small balls.

Im doing a lot of trading lately since im gearing up a ranger and man, freeport is the worst trading hub ever.

Swish
11-13-2015, 10:56 AM
Throwing in support for Cab. The lesser races can trade down in the scummy canals as is fitting

Kergan
11-13-2015, 11:48 AM
yeah, my ic is higher than the one of those who call me dumb. Ive never cheated on a game since i like it hard mode, otherwise is just too easy, way too easy. Some people cheat, i hand down cure pots before i engage in pvp so fight is not easy.

i bet things would go better for u all if u listened to people and used ur brain instead of ur small balls.

Im doing a lot of trading lately since im gearing up a ranger and man, freeport is the worst trading hub ever.

It's all good man, I'm sure you have a very high IC.

Uton
11-13-2015, 12:52 PM
especially since you are the only one measuring IC

#1 for life

DRAGONBAIT
11-13-2015, 01:22 PM
yeah im over 250 im like einstein.

maerilith
11-13-2015, 01:27 PM
I think it's easier to find a Fay Gate then it is to get somehwere else, and everyone has faction in Kaladim from CB belts, so I endourse kelethin as server trade hub.

DRAGONBAIT
11-13-2015, 02:02 PM
ive tried to log in on my druid and calmly spamed ooc auctioning free ports and trying to get a discussion going, ive tried to ask veliousrings to move to kelethin so others would follow since hes one the big names in trading.

I would ask salaryman, veliousrings and the like to move to kelethin, i would offer ports and binds and i would help any customer with a port at any given time for a few days untill everything settles. after the big trading names the rest of the mules would follow, atm its nonsense to have 10 mules loaded at nights auctioning in north freeport. its nor normal come on. lets move guys

Kerwin
11-13-2015, 02:05 PM
its not gonna happen... FP has been the trade spot for years here, on rallos it was gfay but thats because it started there...

DRAGONBAIT
11-13-2015, 02:09 PM
its not gonna happen... FP has been the trade spot for years here, on rallos it was gfay but thats because it started there...

on tallon it was gfay also. not cos it started there but cos its an obvious choice bro : (

Efwan
11-13-2015, 03:50 PM
ive tried to log in on my druid and calmly spamed ooc auctioning free ports and trying to get a discussion going, ive tried to ask veliousrings to move to kelethin so others would follow since hes one the big names in trading.

I would ask salaryman, veliousrings and the like to move to kelethin, i would offer ports and binds and i would help any customer with a port at any given time for a few days untill everything settles. after the big trading names the rest of the mules would follow, atm its nonsense to have 10 mules loaded at nights auctioning in north freeport. its nor normal come on. lets move guys

Lol you realize the only people you have garnered support from are blue chars/anon accounts right? It's not happening, might as well let it go. I'd figure someone with such a high IC like you could figure that out by now.

DRAGONBAIT
11-13-2015, 06:32 PM
efwan my friend u mention the blue thing, why? i think ive repeated several times wich was the trading hub back on live ON ALL PVP SERVERS and why. I wonder why im playing a pvp server on a 16 yeard old emulator with people who didnt even play it when it was live

Nirgon
11-13-2015, 06:34 PM
its not gonna happen... FP has been the trade spot for years here





































I think it's easier to find a Fay Gate then it is to get somehwere else, and everyone has faction in Kaladim from CB belts, so I endourse kelethin as server trade hub.

^

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr03/2013/2/11/13/anigif_enhanced-buzz-17080-1360605624-3.gif

Efwan
11-13-2015, 08:20 PM
efwan my friend u mention the blue thing, why? i think ive repeated several times wich was the trading hub back on live ON ALL PVP SERVERS and why. I wonder why im playing a pvp server on a 16 yeard old emulator with people who didnt even play it when it was live

You literally have 0 reading comprehension do you?

Myfather
11-13-2015, 09:32 PM
How about EC tunnel?

DRAGONBAIT
11-13-2015, 09:54 PM
i think its u the one missreading, i got it right bro. red people knows that kelethin is better

did u play any red server back on live?

Myfather
11-13-2015, 10:43 PM
I love to bank.

Layne
11-14-2015, 11:06 PM
Tallon was gfay nuff said, really was the only server that mattered on live.

mischief419
11-17-2015, 09:30 AM
Nfptrade has moved to kele, has had a sex change, and is now Keletrade

DRAGONBAIT
11-17-2015, 09:33 AM
Ok so ive been speaking with Thunderdome officers, it seems they will be moving as a guild there for the tradin hub thing, gfay DOES have lvl1 protection. This morning magicite moved his mule and i helped with with the transfering etc, it was done in 5 minutes and went smoothly. Ill try it again today on peak hours, see if we get more mules moving, got a couple of guys who already told me they will be moving. Lets make this happen


to the people not wanting this to happen, i would like u to develop why. constructive criticism always come handy.

FoxxHound
11-17-2015, 09:35 AM
I agree. Gfay ~

mischief419
11-17-2015, 10:56 AM
oh no shit did Offtune I see post in here? I killed mr offtunex ONE TIME with my monk Chronei in plane of honor or w/e it's called. I have a screenshot somewhere!! You dropped like 500pp, didnt expect the monk to snare you (warrens beads ftw).

Chronei of Bloodstained Knights while you were time geared bard from ..... destiny of zek? whatever that troll guild was bwahah

mischief419
11-17-2015, 10:59 AM
OMG I FOUND THE SCREEN!!! ...and it was only 28pp :(
http://i.imgur.com/MF6jCZ7.jpg

I loved PoP.. don't care what ppl said.

DRAGONBAIT
11-17-2015, 11:10 AM
does Z axis count as distance to out range nukes?

i thought u were trolling me here bro, as usuall, so excuse me if u was serious, yeah z-axis count to outrange nukes so if someone starts casting and u drop down and run u get oor really fast, also, u wont eat a rain spell so easy like in nfp bank. As a darkie its way easier to bank and not get ganked, there are less guards but still u can jump and run, or just keep runing clicking jboots to get to a zl, as a lightie u can stick to a guard etc like in nfp

mischief419
11-17-2015, 11:14 AM
yesh, darkies can just bank via the window - can even bind there, its safe with no guards/aggro

Uton
11-17-2015, 11:18 AM
I would need confirmation on the Z axis thing. no offense, just never had it become a concern. I'm not sold on gfay as a bank hub personally, but w/e

unleashedd
11-17-2015, 11:20 AM
wasn't there a classic feature which disregarded the Z axis on AOE?

DRAGONBAIT
11-17-2015, 11:27 AM
ok if ure not sure then im not 100% sure since i havent tested it., isnt there a number in /loc for it?, so it should be into the math but not sure. about the rain spell is not cos of the range but cos nfp its a close room where u gotta open the door, easy to eat the first 2 waves.

Swish
11-17-2015, 12:02 PM
OMG I FOUND THE SCREEN!!! ...and it was only 28pp :(
http://i.imgur.com/MF6jCZ7.jpg

I loved PoP.. don't care what ppl said.

I feel sick looking at that pic

DRAGONBAIT
11-17-2015, 03:16 PM
so, ive already got into 2 traps at druid rings when asked to move over a mule to kelethin, so obvious tho, also ive got several trying to gank me in kelethin when i was sittin on a naked druid offering free ports to mules moving over, not sure what u are trying to teach me guys, its not happening. I would like to see some constructive criticism since most of the reasons ive been given are wrong, like its not a safe place for KOS characters or that its not close for a druid. Guys this would benefit server health so plz, everyone out there who agree with this idea help us push it, become vocal, help mules with a port etc, lets make it happen. Some people will just like to see the server burn, ignore them and keep going.

DRAGONBAIT
11-17-2015, 03:17 PM
durin off time this morning, 70 players on, every mule moved over, like 4 or 5 people, some more that i know off also are moving over. it makes sense guys just think about it and do what u think its best

Rastignac
11-17-2015, 03:17 PM
so, ive already got into 2 traps at druid rings when asked to move over a mule to kelethin, so obvious tho, also ive got several trying to gank me in kelethin when i was sittin on a naked druid offering free ports to mules moving over, not sure what u are trying to teach me guys, its not happening. I would like to see some constructive criticism since most of the reasons ive been given are wrong, like its not a safe place for KOS characters or that its not close for a druid. Guys this would benefit server health so plz, everyone out there who agree with this idea help us push it, become vocal, help mules with a port etc, lets make it happen. Some people will just like to see the server burn, ignore them and keep going.

Ah the earnest phase of the p1999 rabbithole. Mine was about racism.

cronik
11-17-2015, 04:54 PM
Hahaha great argument for kelethin man

"If only people would stop pvp'in me we could make this pve market happen! Stop being jerks guys it'd be great for the server!"

iruinedyourday
11-17-2015, 05:35 PM
Someone should set up an Ahungry (http://ahungry.com/eqauctions) for /auction in Gfay and eventually everyone will move trader alts there.

DRAGONBAIT
11-17-2015, 05:37 PM
Hahaha great argument for kelethin man

"If only people would stop pvp'in me we could make this pve market happen! Stop being jerks guys it'd be great for the server!"

im starting to think people here has some serious problems.


plz come pvp im unanon on every character i play. shaman at oot and ranger atm on mm

miraclegrow2
11-17-2015, 08:46 PM
dragondrugs