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Daldaen
10-26-2015, 11:33 PM
Rowyl's Metal Armguards - Should be Druid only.

https://web.archive.org/web/20011225045132/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6512

https://web.archive.org/web/20011225045132im_/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/equipment/graphics16/rowyls_metal_armguards.gif

These should be druid only for the life of the server. Clerics + Shamans should only be added to this item in Luclin (IE not on P99).

Congratulations.. Reply... By: WitlWogue,
4 posts
Posted @ Thu, Aug 23rd 6:04 PM 2001
to whoever got this fine druid armor. Doesnt it have like 2 times the AC of your kael quest BP? :) Very nice armor for a very nice class

Posted @ Mon, Feb 18th 10:50 AM 2002 Score: Default[2.00]
Cleric/Druid/Shaman usuable now! Hehe, lucky I got mine when I did, Druid's would be last on this list

Posted @ Sat, Oct 5th 1:40 PM 2002 Score: Decent[3.00]
Once upon a time these used to be druid only. Then VI changed it... That's why people mostly talk about druids wearing them :)

Plackers
10-27-2015, 12:35 AM
So are the people that got awarded it that's not Druids already just shit outta luck?

Pint
10-27-2015, 12:46 AM
daldaen declaring war

Daldaen
10-27-2015, 08:33 AM
So are the people that got awarded it that's not Druids already just shit outta luck?

I would think a GM should offer to move the vambraces off the cleric/shaman in question and put them on a Druid who was present at the kill.

IMO that would be a fair solution to this issue. But you would have to take it up with nilbog/CSR of course.

And no Pint, not war. This is classic! Druid only vambraces should be Druid only!

Plackers
10-27-2015, 08:49 AM
I would think a GM should offer to move the vambraces off the cleric/shaman in question and put them on a Druid who was present at the kill.

IMO that would be a fair solution to this issue. But you would have to take it up with nilbog/CSR of course.

And no Pint, not war. This is classic! Druid only vambraces should be Druid only!

Interesting solution i'll give you that. This seems like a pretty tough scenario for staff imo.

Daldaen
10-27-2015, 09:15 AM
Not really I don't think.


Change item
Of the 2-3 on the server that dropped and are on cleric/shamans, they can be relocated to Druids who attending Vulak kills
Guilds can internally refund DKP or scratch away awarded Vulak arms from memory if a merit/loot council system.


They certainly shouldn't be allowed to stay Cleric or Shaman usable just because one or two or three clerics/shamans have won them so far.

Daldaen
10-27-2015, 10:46 AM
https://web.archive.org/web/20011225045609/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6786

https://web.archive.org/web/20011225045609im_/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/equipment/graphics16/yakatizmasshieldofcrafting.jpg

Likewise this Shield looks like it should be Cleric / Shaman only until Luclin based on the picture on comments in the thread.

Posted @ Sat, Dec 15th 8:22 PM 2001 Score: Default[2.09]
Gonna talk... so shhhh :

First off, this IS the BEST shield in the GAME, and speaking I cant use it. Now for everyone complaining. Im sure that the magority of the complainers are Druids because you are used to getting the 'Preist Items.' This item would be increadably hard to get in the first place... Now look at what you have over the poor 'Real Priests.'

Druids have many restrictions on weapons, but you can use Flachions/Scimitars, so you have more options than them, you also have Ports, which they dont, and better DD spells including your last 2, which totally outdo their best DDs. While you do spend a lot of time buffing and healing, you can very easily Kite things, and you can also Nuke when you get bored. These races spend their whole time Buffing and Healing, if they arnt buffing and healing they are trying to save themselfs from insanity but arnt really helping the group too much... hehe.... In the end, also, Clerics have less HP than you, although Shamans do usually have more and have pets...
We now return to your regularly scheduled programing.

Ele
10-27-2015, 12:30 PM
Epic finds!

Freakish
10-27-2015, 12:34 PM
Vulak always drops 3 items, not 4. No variation on that. On our 12th kill I believe and never dropped anything but 3 items.

He's a once a week spawn, as are all the other dragons that are his pets. We haven't done a one-day ToV clearing yet, though it'll probably happen eventually. That's a lot of dragons to down. I'd say the average is 3 days (3 seperate raids, back to back) to clear ToV.

You see a lot of drops because it's been several months since he has first been killed, and a lot of guilds are now catching up.

From that first link too.

Plackers
10-27-2015, 12:36 PM
From that first link too.

Believe the devs already said they weren't changing how many item Vulak dropped.

Daldaen
10-27-2015, 12:39 PM
They should revisit that.

Influx of loot shouldn't be a concern even though we are time locked at this point. Classic is what should take precedence on loot decisions.

Ele has done some solid work on time lining for the re-rolled P99 server. I'm hoping this can make it into next patch as it isn't a time stamp thing, just something that should persist always through the server's life.

nilbog
10-27-2015, 01:03 PM
Pending update:

-Rowyl's Metal Armguards are druid only
-Yakatizma's Shield of Crafting is no longer druid usable

As far as moving loot around from players who already have the items, I'll confer with the rest of the staff.

Daldaen
10-27-2015, 01:04 PM
Thanks Nilbog!

Colgate
10-27-2015, 02:52 PM
nothing to worry about on red

arms haven't dropped, only one shield and it went to a cleric

Colgate
10-27-2015, 02:56 PM
From that first link too.

nice, every single vulak kill on red has been 2 items

feels very not classic, glad to see some evidence

Plackers
10-27-2015, 03:14 PM
nice, every single vulak kill on red has been 2 items

feels very not classic, glad to see some evidence

Ele
10-27-2015, 03:19 PM
So are the people that got awarded it that's not Druids already just shit outta luck?

nothing to worry about on red

arms haven't dropped, only one shield and it went to a cleric

If they haven't dropped on red, then there is nothing to worry about at all. Rowyl's have not dropped on blue either.

The shields that have dropped went to clerics.

Plackers
10-27-2015, 03:21 PM
If they haven't dropped on red, then there is nothing to worry about at all. Rowyl's have not dropped on blue either.

The shields that have dropped went to clerics.

Good to hear!

Daldaen
10-27-2015, 03:21 PM
Sounds like this bug fix happened just in time!

Nothing like finding out spider silks shouldn't be stackable until mid Velious or Research containers should be 4-slot items until LoY. Imagine trying to go back to those at this point in P99.

Ele
10-27-2015, 03:22 PM
Sounds like this bug fix happened just in time!

Nothing like finding out spider silks shouldn't be stackable until mid Velious or Research containers should be 4-slot items until LoY. Imagine trying to go back to those at this point in P99.

Just need to rip that Band-aid(R) brand adhesive bandage off already!

Llandris
10-27-2015, 03:46 PM
Pending update:

-Rowyl's Metal Armguards are druid only
-Yakatizma's Shield of Crafting is no longer druid usable

As far as moving loot around from players who already have the items, I'll confer with the rest of the staff.

Just did a quick check, Armguards have not dropped on either server yet. 1 shield has dropped on red(went to a cleric), and 2 have dropped on blue (both went to clerics).

Ele
10-27-2015, 04:06 PM
Just did a quick check, Armguards have not dropped on either server yet. 1 shield has dropped on red(went to a cleric), and 2 have dropped on blue (both went to clerics).

Nothing should have to be moved. No one has arms. The 3 people with shields are clerics and can still use them after the update.

Unless for some reason, arms drop before the next patch and go to a non-druid. Or another shield drops and it goes to a druid.