Anybody watching the Benghazi hearing?

[Gilder]

Anyone watching the livestream for the Benghazi hearing?

http://benghazi.house.gov/hearings/hearing-4

[Ranndom]

Anyone watching the livestream for the Benghazi hearing?

http://benghazi.house.gov/hearings/hearing-4

Im just waiting for Hillary to be put on death row and all of her money to be donated to a non existent organization

[ronasch]

Hillary's a cunt, I hope she burns

[Emsee]

Repub's saying she should die etc. The new Taliban is alive and well in the USA, look to your right.

[Ranndom]

Repub's saying she should die etc. The new Taliban is alive and well in the USA, look to your right.

Dying is too good for her. Everyone knows death row inmates rarely recieve anything other than life in prison

[iruinedyourday]

I may agree with Orrur that the biggest threat to national sec might not be global warming... however it may very well be extremist republicans.

tally of attacks in us challenges perceptions of top terror threat (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html)

http://i.imgur.com/uUUNEnq.png

[Gilder]

Jim Jordan's questions this morning were really good. They basically revealed that she gave 3 different account of what happened in less than hour. One narrative to the Benghazi govt (not because of a video), one to her family (because of Al Qaeda) and one to the American public (because of an internet video).

All of these different stories were created while the fighting was still going on and Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were still fighting for their lives on the roof of the embassy.

[dafier]

She will never ever ever go to jail. She will NEVER lose money. Her husband was president. That protects her from ALL justice.

What she will lose is, face. That's all. She will lose a presidential bid. Unfortunately she is not going to suffer ANY consequences. Btw, Bill did the same damn thing to the Black Hawks down guys.

He delayed and delayed and delayed and good soldiers died. The Clinton's should be hung out to dry.

[Ranndom]

I may agree with Orrur that the biggest threat to national sec might not be global warming... however it may very well be extremist republicans.

tally of attacks in us challenges perceptions of top terror threat (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html)

http://i.imgur.com/uUUNEnq.png
Your proposing the problem is the people who have a problem with a broken society.

[iruinedyourday]

She will never ever ever go to jail. She will NEVER lose money. Her husband was president. That protects her from ALL justice.

What she will lose is, face. That's all. She will lose a presidential bid. Unfortunately she is not going to suffer ANY consequences. Btw, Bill did the same damn thing to the Black Hawks down guys.

He delayed and delayed and delayed and good soldiers died. The Clinton's should be hung out to dry.

Top Rep. Kevin McCarthy on the Benghazi committee: “Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable right? But we put together a Benghazi Special Committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping," McCarthy said. "Why? Cause she’s untrustable. But no one would have known any of that had happened had we not fought and made that happen,”

This is why we'll never see "justice" because it was a scam used to lie to the american voters to prevent another democrat from winning the white house. The people who should be punished for this are on the right, not the left..

[Rec]

hillary's face will crack your tv/monitor

[Ranndom]

This is why we'll never see "justice" because it was a scam used to lie to the american voters to prevent another democrat from winning the white house. The people who should be punished for this are on the right, not the left..
Because the left have done nothing but ruined this country...Ironically, just how you apparently strive to ruin everyones day. Funny that pattern. I guess it runs in the socialist ideology.

[dafier]

Top Rep. Kevin McCarthy on the Benghazi committee: “Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable right? But we put together a Benghazi Special Committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping," McCarthy said. "Why? Cause she’s untrustable. But no one would have known any of that had happened had we not fought and made that happen,”

This is why we'll never see "justice" because it was a scam used to lie to the american voters to prevent another democrat from winning the white house. The people who should be punished for this are on the right, not the left..

Well said.

I think the point is that this side is always working the edge. However, the truth is the truth. Whether it be against the Demos or the Reps, your failure will be exposed.

[Big_Japan]

I may agree with Orrur that the biggest threat to national sec might not be global warming... however it may very well be extremist republicans.

tally of attacks in us challenges perceptions of top terror threat (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html)

http://i.imgur.com/uUUNEnq.png

this guy probably refers to spiders, rainy days, and the birds who shit on his mom's car as "republicans" too

[AzzarTheGod]

this guy probably refers to spiders, rainy days, and the birds who shit on his mom's car as "republicans" too

Bingo.

[Gilder]

Regardless of what political party you prefer, you can't hear all this correspondence - written by Clinton and her aides - and NOT scratch your head.

[Ranndom]

Regardless of what political party you prefer, you can't hear all this correspondence - written by Clinton and her aides - and NOT scratch your head.

Should be doing more than just scratching. Id be surprised if people didnt have their heads stuck in walls by now

[AzzarTheGod]

Regardless of what political party you prefer, you can't hear all this correspondence - written by Clinton and her aides - and NOT scratch your head.

The repubs are doing a good job of pinning her down on her dance. They want to know where the buck stops.

Holding gov officials responsible. A pure left world would truly be an idiocracy that ignores due process.

[Pokesan]

I'd still do her, but I recognize that's quite unlikely to happen.

Maybe she'll lose enough standing to have to resort to doing porn though! :)

[Ranndom]

I'd still do her, but I recognize that's quite unlikely to happen.

Maybe she'll lose enough standing to have to resort to doing porn though! :)

I heard Hillary was the chick star in the movie Teeth.

[Big_Japan]

please. Hillary hasn't done a dick since the 70s.

[Villide]

I feel like these Benghazi hearings have been going on as long as the Simpsons has been on the air.

Seriously, is anyone interested in this or "email servers", outside of Dittoheads?

[AzzarTheGod]

I feel like these Benghazi hearings have been going on as long as the Simpsons has been on the air.

Seriously, is anyone interested in this or "email servers", outside of Dittoheads?

It takes time to get answers in politics. We have a bureaucracy. You would prefer a violent dictatorship where answers are instantaneous. That would cater to your cognitive deficits, right? Try moving to South America somewhere, maybe they are more your speed.

Many people not suffering from neurodevelopmental disorders such as ADD, ADHD, and other personality disorders are still interested in the line item failures of the American government. In this case, the Secretary of State.

[iruinedyourday]

Me personally I would like all of this energy spent putting the men who lied about the Iraq war which was by far more harmful and by far more nefarious than anything that has to do with Benghazi, to be put under this type of scrutiny...

[Herp]

Me personally I would like all of this energy spent putting the men who lied about the Iraq war which was by far more harmful and by far more nefarious than anything that has to do with Benghazi, to be put under this type of scrutiny...

Hillary voted for the Iraq war, the Patriot Act, NSA spying, you name it.

fail

[iruinedyourday]

look i by no means love hillary, I dont want her as my next president, but am I going to be like this about? no.

https://41.media.tumblr.com/8ab26d5a7e86bf904d079270f6c64b6d/tumblr_n67hyyUwup1rzdfjvo1_500.png

[Villide]

It takes time to get answers in politics. We have a bureaucracy. You would prefer a violent dictatorship where answers are instantaneous. That would cater to your cognitive deficits, right? Try moving to South America somewhere, maybe they are more your speed.

Many people not suffering from neurodevelopmental disorders such as ADD, ADHD, and other personality disorders are still interested in the line item failures of the American government. In this case, the Secretary of State.
Please, you're buying into the dog and pony show. You're PT Barnum's wet dream.

Let me guess, when you aren't unf-unfing over Republicans trying to derail Hillary's fairly easy path to the Presidency, you're probably railing on about time-wasting Washington DC bureaucrats and over-involved government?

I'm certain they've uncovered tremendous amounts of information in what, the 12th or 13th hearing our congresscritters have thrown together? Nope, appears they whiffed again.

Yes, these are my eyes rolling. But I suppose it's better to have these clowns doing this than screwing up the stuff that matters.

[iruinedyourday]

azzar is actually a pretty chill poster and seems p cool, I'm sure hes not an extremist about this situation.

[Sidelle]

I heard Hillary was the chick star in the movie Teeth.
She wasn't bad in Zombeavers either.

http://i.imgur.com/RkwW5Qk.jpg

[Villide]

azzar is actually a pretty chill poster and seems p cool, I'm sure hes not an extremist about this situation.
Yes, his reflexive assumption that I had a cognitive defect makes him super chill and cool. Maybe he'll take it easy on me next time and just call me a communist. :rolleyes:

[iruinedyourday]

dude I totes know what u mean I'm just saying like this is the first thread where ive seen azzar call anyone anything other than something nice.

he might be just mistaken or misunderstood.

Azzar, i like u pal i hope you are chill and cool

if he thinks youre a commie then im afraid he'll think i am the devil which makes me sad cus i like azzar

[Villide]

I don't have a problem with Azzar. And I have no love for HC. I'd write in "AzzarTheGod" for President before I'd vote for Hillary.

Doesn't change the fact that these tedious Benghazi hearings serve no purpose other than one party trying to damage the other party's Presidential campaign.

[iruinedyourday]

I don't have a problem with Azzar. And I have no love for HC. I'd write in "AzzarTheGod" for President before I'd vote for Hillary.

Doesn't change the fact that these tedious Benghazi hearings serve no purpose other than one party trying to damage the other party's Presidential campaign.

Dude I totally agree.

Benghazi is and always will be an exploited tragedy that a party who defended security programs for the embassy would later turn it into a media frenzy in order to discredit a political rival.

The only people who should be under investigation should be the people who are trying to use it as a tactic to win, or prevent someone from winning, votes.

[AzzarTheGod]

Yes, his reflexive assumption that I had a cognitive defect makes him super chill and cool. Maybe he'll take it easy on me next time and just call me a communist. :rolleyes:

The "PT Barnum" as you call it, is about highlighting the facts of the investigation.

No one has been reprimanded, or lost their job, or even received a demotion for the security failure. You want to roll eyes and say so what, and say oh well par for the course.

What these hearings are about, is highlighting a greater issue--that being government accountability.

And I do not consider it a partisan investigation because of this greater symbolic value, in light of the fact that no one has received anything aside from questions, even when everyone is in agreement that there was a security failure.

They can hold 20 more hearings until that sinks in. As for the personal attack, I was freshly fueled up with a full tank off of some blog commenters. It was unnecessary, unfair and excessive. This is not rants and flames and I take it back.

[Villide]

It was unnecessary, unfair and excessive. This is not rants and flames and I take it back.
Fair enough, I shouldn't have gone both barrels - apologies. :D

[Big_Japan]

truth be told this Benghazi shit is circus, and the email thing really isn't all that damning if your head isn't completely up your ass.

Everybody seems to be wrapped up in the dodging FOIA requests angle with respect to Clinton's email servers, as if the really damning stuff wouldn't be scrubbed or redacted like torture evidence, but then these are the blinders that come with the television narrative and pretending everything is hunky-dory politics as usual in 2015 USA, instead of the twisted game of Soviet style domestic espionage our overpowered intelligence apparatus has turned American public life into. The fact that Hillary felt compelled to host and pay for a private email server, exposing herself to the risk that this would happen, rather than utilize a state-administered one that can be remote controlled at will by alphabet soup like Congress's computers is the real actual horrifying part about the scandal.

[Gilder]

Big Japan, I agree. I gave a shot at writing a similar post saying that this has all been worth it, if ONLY to find out about the weakness of the private email server.

It's already been proven that the security was an absolute joke. And I think going forward, this will serve as an example for taking cybersecurity a tad more seriously and less leeway for "personal" choices to override the protocols.

[iruinedyourday]

I think the really horrifying part about this scandal is the people who voted for a 300 million dollar cut to embassy security are the same people that tried to blame Hillary Clinton for the tragedy.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/budget/news/2012/09/18/38352/diplomats-national-security-and-the-house-budget/

[Emsee]

The same side that ignored the 13 embassy attacks and over 200 dead under a Republican President..... The most in the history of the United States. Oh man, the outrage over that ...oh wait.

[Ranndom]

I think the really horrifying part about this scandal is the people who voted for a 300 million dollar cut to embassy security are the same people that tried to blame Hillary Clinton for the tragedy.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/budget/news/2012/09/18/38352/diplomats-national-security-and-the-house-budget/
Embassy has no purpose being there in the first place. Fuck its security. All foreign involvement does is create problems, and where it doesnt create problems it creates assassins.

[AzzarTheGod]

I think the really horrifying part about this scandal is the people who voted for a 300 million dollar cut to embassy security are the same people that tried to blame Hillary Clinton for the tragedy.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/budget/news/2012/09/18/38352/diplomats-national-security-and-the-house-budget/

I don't think this is about Hillary though. Its about the dead Americans. Some people may have an agenda sure, or it may be politically convenient. But to many of us that's all just nonsense. We just want anyone held accountable for the security failure, even if it turns out "defunding" the embassy security by the House of Representatives is what contributed to or directly caused this. We will find out, name and shame, etc. But this investigation is far far from over so lets hold judgement and let the process play out.

You heard the committee tonight, they plan on questioning 20 more witnesses in the same fashion they questioned Hillary. Its an investigation, not a prosecution. Hillary is not being prosecuted here, just a fact-finding expedition due to the Obama administrations lack of transparency and cooperation with the initial investigation for the inquiry by Congress in the first place.

Even if the optics appear that way, its about the State Department's failures. She just happened to be the Secretary of State.

[iruinedyourday]

hopefully all the gloves fit :)

[sOurDieSel]

she dindu nuffins guyz

[Gilder]

I don't think this is about Hillary though. Its about the dead Americans. Some people may have an agenda sure, or it may be politically convenient. But to many of us that's all just nonsense. We just want anyone held accountable for the security failure, even if it turns out "defunding" the embassy security by the House of Representatives is what contributed to or directly caused this. We will find out, name and shame, etc. But this investigation is far far from over so lets hold judgement and let the process play out.

You heard the committee tonight, they plan on questioning 20 more witnesses in the same fashion they questioned Hillary. Its an investigation, not a prosecution. Hillary is not being prosecuted here, just a fact-finding expedition due to the Obama administrations lack of transparency and cooperation with the initial investigation for the inquiry by Congress in the first place.

Even if the optics appear that way, its about the State Department's failures. She just happened to be the Secretary of State.

Great post. I think it's important not to devour the chum of the media. Yes, Hillary was the big story. But they are still gonna interview tons more people.

After seeing Mr. Jordan tear apart those 3 conflicting emails: one where Clinton told her daughter and the Libyan govt it was a planned Al Qaeda like attack and the other email she released from State that told the American public it was because of a video, I really want to see them find more cracks in the story.

The ineptitude of this branch of government does not fully revolve around Hillary. And they owe it to the families to have whoever was responsible clean out their desk and gtfo out of Washington.