NPCs on wrong faction - (Neriak Rogues)

[clouddynasty]

Currently, all of the Neriak Rogue Guild NPCs are on the wrong faction. They appear to be on the defunct "Hall of the Ebon Mask" faction when they should be on the "Ebon Mask" faction. All of the guild quests there raise "Ebon Mask" which should raise the faction of the quest-givers, but it does not.

The NPCs in question are-

In Neriak 3rd Gate-

-Sazan K`Jartan
-Eolorn J`Axx
-Vivish SLon
-Tani N`Mar
-Yaz Tolax
-Pazin Punox
-Hekzin G`Zule
-Kanthu M`Rekkor
-Jerris W`Selo
-Glazin K`Jartan (He is in the Hall of the Dead, incorrectly flagged as a Necromancer trainer and is on The Dead when he should be on -Ebon Mask)
-Molon T`plth in the Maiden's Fancy is the only Rogue on the correct "Ebon Mask" faction as I can see he is now apprehensive to me after many, many turn-ins.



In East Freeport-

-Giz Dinree


Thanks in advance!

[clouddynasty]

Looking further I see that mobs that are NOT classic that were introduced later on like a tier'dal assassin (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=9997) and an ebon mask spy (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=9999) in Faydark were on the "Ebon Mask" faction.

With this in mind, it may be more classic to change the faction hits from the quests from "Ebon Mask" to "Hall of the Ebon Mask" since "Ebon Mask" didn't exist until much later.

In this case, the faction hits for the following quests would need to be switched over -

http://wiki.project1999.com/Moss_Snakes
http://wiki.project1999.com/The_Rogue_Take (upon delivering the letter to Giz as well as turning in the locked chest)
http://wiki.project1999.com/Death_of_Lyda_Nasin
http://wiki.project1999.com/Honeybugger_Assassin

Molon T`plth would also need to be switched from "Ebon Mask" to "Hall of the Ebon Mask" in this case.

I'll hold off on doing any more turn-ins for faction until this has been decided upon. The snake fangs take a while to gather!

[clouddynasty]

Sorry I didn't have all of this in my initial posting, I'm new to the process and like a dunce I didn't read the sticky until after the fact.

Here's a shot of factions as late as 2002 with no "Ebon Mask" faction, only "Hall of the Ebon Mask." http://web.archive.org/web/20020802024548/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/factionlist.html



and here it suddenly appearing for the first time in 2003 - http://web.archive.org/web/20030320074430/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/faction.html?faction=321

Finally, here is Glazin K`Jartan, not a Necro GM - despite being in the guild hall - but a Rogue on the "Hall of Ebon Mask." http://web.archive.org/web/20010116211600/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=2385

Molon T`plth should be on there too - he even used to have a script where he would walk from the Hall of the Ebon Mask to Maiden Fancy (where he stays now) and have a dialogue with Ratraz the troll, who would deny him entry.

[nilbog]

Ok we'll start by seeing what factions all of these npcs are on currently, fix that, and then work with the quests.

So you're saying that HalloftheEbonMask should not exist, anywhere ?

select distinct npt.id, npt.name, fl.name, sp2.zone
from npc_types
npt join spawnentry spt on (spt.npcid = npt.id)
join npc_faction npcf on (npcf.id = npt.npc_faction_id)
join faction_list fl on (fl.id = npcf.primaryfaction)
join spawn2 sp2 on (sp2.spawngroupid=spt.spawngroupid)
where fl.id in (90,137) #ebonmask, hallofebonmask
and spt.chance > '0';

Yaz_Tolax HalloftheEbonMask neriakc
Molon_T`plth EbonMask neriakc
Molon_T`plth EbonMask neriakc
Hekzin_G`Zule HalloftheEbonMask neriakc
Jerris_W`Selo HalloftheEbonMask neriakc
Eolorn_J`Axx HalloftheEbonMask neriakc
Pazin_Punox HalloftheEbonMask neriakc
Kanthu_M`Rekkor HalloftheEbonMask neriakc
Sazan_K`Jartan HalloftheEbonMask neriakc
Vivish_SLon HalloftheEbonMask neriakc
Vivish_SLon HalloftheEbonMask neriakc
Giz_Dinree HalloftheEbonMask freporte
Tani_N`Mar HalloftheEbonMask neriakc
Tani_N`Mar HalloftheEbonMask neriakc

[clouddynasty]

The opposite - I made a mistake in my first post, my apologies. EbonMask came way later, HalloftheEbonMask was the original faction but for some reason here on P99 all of the quests I linked give EbonMask NOT HalloftheEbonMask hits.

Basically the NPCs (except Molon and Glazin) are on the classic faction while the faction hits from their quests give non-classic faction. Every quest or mob that gives a + or - EbonMask hit should give HalloftheEbonMask instead. Also, Molon T`plth and Glazin K`Jartan need to be moved to HalloftheEbonMask faction.

I realized the discrepancy when I did Moss Snakes quest dozens of time and saw no changes (while getting +Ebon Mask), then I stumbled upon Molon T`plth and saw he was getting friendlier. So while the faction work I did would benefit from putting everyone on Ebon Mask - the classic solution is, infact, changing the faction hits from Ebon Mask to HalloftheEbonMask and adjusting Molon and Glazin.

[nilbog]

Anyone else have commentary on this?

Willing to make the changes, but as there would be many, I'd like to fix it 100% the first time.

[clouddynasty]

I'm compiling all of my research links from this thread into this one post-

--Faction list in Oct 2000 http://web.archive.org/web/20001018000545/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/factionlist.html
all the way to Aug 2002 http://web.archive.org/web/20020802024548/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/factionlist.html with only Hall of the Ebon Mask - no Ebon Mask.

--Ebon Mask first showing up in faction list in Feb 2003 http://web.archive.org/web/20030205060615/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/factionlist.html and non-classic NPCs a tier'dal assassin http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=9997 first showing up in 2002 and an ebon mask spy http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=9999 first showing up in 2003 both on this new faction.

--Glazin K`Jartan in Lodge of the Dead http://web.archive.org/web/20010116211600/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=2385. Later on, when they added the high elf casters to Nektulos to make it easy-mode for non-DE Necros to get in good with The Dead, this guy would still murder them and that is likely why he was later just thrown onto The Dead faction and turned into a Necro GM. Boo.

Is there a way for you to pull up quests/NPCs that give +/- faction hits the same way that you pulled up that list of NPCs on EbonMask/HalloftheEbonMask factions? If not I will try to compile a list for you myself.

Another possible solution might be switching the HalloftheEbonMask NPCs over to EbonMask faction and then just renaming EbonMask to HalloftheEbonMask to avoid having to mess with all the quests and faction hits? I have no idea if you can do that - just throwing out an idea.

Obviously fix it however you see fit, the important thing is that the NPCs and their quest hits are on the same faction.

[nilbog]

Is there a way for you to pull up quests/NPCs that give +/- faction hits the same way that you pulled up that list of NPCs on EbonMask/HalloftheEbonMask factions?

EbonMask matches in scripts(quests):
freporte/Giz_Dinree.pl:
halas/Holana_Oleary.pl:
halas/Margyn_McCann.pl:
halas/Waltor_Felligan.pl:
kaladimb/Diggins.pl:
kaladimb/Mater.pl:
neriakc/Eolorn_J-Axx.pl:
neriakc/Hekzin_G-Zule.pl:
neriakc/Pazin_Punox.pl:
neriakc/Tani_N-Mar.pl:
qeynos/Eracon_Krengon.pl:

HallofTheEbonMask matches in scripts(quests):
halas/Shamus_Felligan.pl:

[clouddynasty]

EbonMask matches in scripts(quests):


freporte/Giz_Dinree.pl:

The Rogue Take: +faction hit occurs upon delivering Sealed Letter "Letter to Giz" from Eolorn J`Axx.

halas/Holana_Oleary.pl:

Karana Clovers: -faction hit occurs upon delivering "Karana Clover Shipment"

halas/Margyn_McCann.pl:

Head of Granin O'Gill: -faction hit occurs upon delivering "Barbarian Head" from Granin O'Gill.

halas/Waltor_Felligan.pl:

Wooly Fungus Quest: -faction hit occurs upon turning in "Jar of Fungus"

kaladimb/Diggins.pl:

Runnyeye Warbeads (Kaladim Rogue): -faction hit occurs upon turning in x4 Runneye Warbeads

Parrying Pick Quest: -faction hit occurs upon delivering Barma's Tongue/Crytil's Tongue/Keldyn's Tongue/Rondo's Tongue.

kaladimb/Mater.pl:

Miner's Pick: -faction hit upon turning in Ogre Head and 300gp.

neriakc/Eolorn_J-Axx.pl:

The Rogue Take: [B]+faction hit upon delivering Locked Chest [Ebon Mask Shipment]

neriakc/Hekzin_G-Zule.pl:

Moss Snakes: +faction hit upon turning in Bag of Snake Parts/

neriakc/Pazin_Punox.pl:

Honeybugger Assassin: +faction hit upon turning in Halfling Head [Lil Honeybugger's Head] I just have to say this quest is without question the darkest, most evil stuff I've seen in EQ. Punox gives the quest to you on false pretenses and later reveals that Lil Honeybugger was pregnant with his child (presumably from rape?!) and that he wanted her dead before she could give birth.

neriakc/Tani_N-Mar.pl:

Death of Lyda Nasin: +faction hit upon turning in Human Head [Lyda's Head]

qeynos/Eracon_Krengon.pl:

Tribunal Initiate: -faction hit upon delivering Wanted Poster.


HallofTheEbonMask matches in scripts(quests):

halas/Shamus_Felligan.pl:

Goblin Caster Necklace: -faction hit upon turning in Shattered Caster Beads

[nilbog]

Pending update:

npcs which were on EbonMask faction are now HallofEbonMask. Quest faction involving these has also been changed.