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jolanar
10-07-2015, 03:27 PM
I've been playing a monk for a while now and while I love that I can solo very well, I feel like I've been avoiding groups because monks are the defacto pullers and I don't really enjoy pulling. In fact I hate it!

I'm pretty sure I am going to reroll to either a SK or a Ranger since they seem to be the only other melee classes that can solo if needed but won't be required to pull for groups. Which of these would be the better soloer? I know both classes have quite a few bag of tricks and that is appealing to me as well. I plan on grouping when possible but my schedule often doesn't allow it.

Zemus
10-07-2015, 03:29 PM
You will be the #2 choice for puller right behind a monk.

Ele
10-07-2015, 03:41 PM
Bard, if you want to consider that melee since they wield weapons, but a lot of their soloing is song based. But they are great pullers, so you may be expected to pull at some point in groups.

Rangers can solo, but if you are grouped in an outdoor zone, you will be expected to pull with harmony or at least assist with pulling.

SK has FD, will be expected to pull depending on group make up.

Do you have a plat for a big twink package? Can solo to some effect as warrior or rogue. Buy lots of bandages or find a friendly mage. Depending on group make up, warrior or rogue may pull in some situations.

Itap
10-07-2015, 03:41 PM
Bards make great pullers, but are often not asked to (maybe from ppl not knowing they can pull), and they are also great at soloing. Fear kite, charming, swarming, etc.

Magikarp
10-07-2015, 04:15 PM
ranger if you are not interested in singing and running around as a bard

with velious ranger can fear/snare animals for low mana cost to solo fear kite. now that the hybrid xp penalty is gone, its a good time to consider it

edit: once in a while you'll be asked to pull as a ranger, but those rare moments offer great chances for you to level up your bow skill, and the huge range of a good bow makes pulling much easier. so you could also look at this question as 'what is the most painless to pull with?.' between ranger and sk, its perma sow + sheer range versus sk's ability to feign death if things go poorly

id go ranger but im biased because i love the class and never played an sk

maskedmelon
10-07-2015, 04:15 PM
I've been playing a monk for a while now and while I love that I can solo very well, I feel like I've been avoiding groups because monks are the defacto pullers and I don't really enjoy pulling. In fact I hate it!

I'm pretty sure I am going to reroll to either a SK or a Ranger since they seem to be the only other melee classes that can solo if needed but won't be required to pull for groups. Which of these would be the better soloer? I know both classes have quite a few bag of tricks and that is appealing to me as well. I plan on grouping when possible but my schedule often doesn't allow it.

There are no solo melee classes that won't ever be expected to pull :/ SK, ranger and bard all dbl as pullers. Paladins can pull very well too with lull, but in the presence of one of those other 4 classes will not be expected to do so. SK is probably the best fit for lowest priority puller while still being able to solo decently. Paladins can solo just fine, but it becomes painful 50+.

I'd expect ranger to be the better (compared to SK) solo artist now that panic animal is in at 22 for them, but generally prefer them as pullers outdoors ^^

Ravager
10-07-2015, 04:54 PM
Just bring a bag of clickies, a robe and equip a couple of books whenever they ask you to pull and say you're not really a monk, but a wizard.

fishingme
10-07-2015, 04:57 PM
Just bring a bag of clickies, a robe and equip a couple of books whenever they ask you to pull and say you're not really a monk, but a wizard.

If there were reputation points.....

Colgate 2.0
10-07-2015, 05:15 PM
nothing is stopping you from being that one shitbag "i'm a dps monk" you find every once in a while

Kender
10-07-2015, 06:01 PM
being the grp puller is one of the more satisfying things you can do in eq. except when the pull site is over camped (hello KC)

thufir
10-07-2015, 06:36 PM
There are no solo melee classes that won't ever be expected to pull :/

This is true, but really, there are really no melee classes that won't ever be expected to pull, solo or not solo. I've been in groups with rogue pullers; sneak pulling is pretty strong. (Don't roll SK; people will want you to pull in a lot of cases because of FD.)

If you don't ever want to pull, I think wizard or magician is your best bet: you don't have FD, pacify, harmony, sneak, or any other pull tools aside from a long range spell. Cleric might be OK too since people don't normally want to risk the cleric. But as a melee, good luck avoiding pulling forever without irritating your group mates.

All that having been said, pulling makes EQ interesting, why avoid it? =P

Issar
10-07-2015, 06:41 PM
nothing is stopping you from being that one shitbag "i'm a dps monk" you find every once in a while

True, but that's kinda like a cleric joining a group and saying "I'm a battle wzard, I don't heal". But ya, I seem to run across a monks like this every now and then.

If the OP wants to melee, but doesn't want to pull, but wants to be able to solo, but definitely wants to group, then he should really roll a mage. No melee fit that bill.

phacemeltar
10-08-2015, 09:06 AM
im loving paladin and it quite fits the bill here. kinda tricky until you can root, but after that its like having an enchanter in your pocket, and you heal almost as well as a druid(no regen)

jolanar
10-08-2015, 10:02 AM
im loving paladin and it quite fits the bill here. kinda tricky until you can root, but after that its like having an enchanter in your pocket, and you heal almost as well as a druid(no regen)

Aren't paladins terrible soloers though?

Spenny121
10-08-2015, 11:16 AM
Aren't paladins terrible soloers though?

I can't speak for all paladins, but playing from 1-35 so far soloing on my new paladin (fairly twinked) I've had no problems, even soloing yellows. Self buffs, roots, heals, and lull are all amazing for soloing. If I get a breeze or clarity I can kill non-stop blues and whites without ever having to sit down.

With the new high dmg/dly ratio 2h's coming out with Velious and dropping in price it's only going to get better.

Sure there are better solo classes, but paladin isn't terrible at all, especially compared to rogues and warriors.

Best melee soloer who doesn't pull is whatever class you want to play and have fun with. If you're a monk and don't want to pull just be up front with your group before you join. Monks are still pretty solid DPS. I'll always pull in place of someone else (even if it's not the most efficient) if they're not feeling up to it.

Itap
10-08-2015, 11:19 AM
you heal almost as well as a druid(no regen)

The gap is larger now since the last patch added new druid heals, fyi

Charlievox
10-08-2015, 02:04 PM
Like to group
Don't like to pull
Want to be able to solo when in the mood

Hmmmmm.....

Sounds like a Necro to me.

There's no melee, but it can be very satisfying, in an evil sort of way, to load a victim up with all your best DoTs send in the pet to tank then just sit and watch the sucker slowly die.

Villide
10-08-2015, 07:44 PM
Aren't paladins terrible soloers though?
Better once you get to 15 because you get a bit of crowd control and your first DD undead spell.

22's even better when you can start rooting.

Nisei
10-08-2015, 08:33 PM
ranger if you are not interested in singing and running around as a bard

with velious ranger can fear/snare animals for low mana cost to solo fear kite. now that the hybrid xp penalty is gone, its a good time to consider it

edit: once in a while you'll be asked to pull as a ranger, but those rare moments offer great chances for you to level up your bow skill, and the huge range of a good bow makes pulling much easier. so you could also look at this question as 'what is the most painless to pull with?.' between ranger and sk, its perma sow + sheer range versus sk's ability to feign death if things go poorly

id go ranger but im biased because i love the class and never played an sk
What rare moments? I end up pulling in 90% of the groups that I join.

jolanar
10-09-2015, 11:30 AM
Sounds like every melee class is going to have to pull a decent amount of the time, except maybe rogues who have no solo capabilities.

I think for now I will just keep playing my monk for soloing and then start up a group oriented class like cleric for times when I want to group.

Thanks everyone for the advice.

Monty405
10-09-2015, 11:35 AM
Pulling is not so bad unless it is in dungeon you are not familiar with.

maskedmelon
10-09-2015, 04:02 PM
Pulling is not so bad unless it is in dungeon you are not familiar with.

I think its fun, but it certainly keeps you busy ^^ no time for netflix!