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Rasah
11-15-2010, 11:18 AM
I have a question on how meditate works in P99. I remember on original classic that in order to meditate, you had to have the spellbook open until you reached a certain level. Then once you hit that level, sitting was good enough.

Is that the case here? If so, what is that level you have to hit?

It's been 6 years since I retired from Live, and I can't remember half of this stuff.

Djinn
11-15-2010, 11:20 AM
Sitting is all that is required, as long as you are the appropriate level to have the Meditate skill.

Pure casters get Meditate at 4, Healers at 8, Hybrids at, uhh, 14? I don't remember precisely.

hedbonker
11-15-2010, 11:20 AM
The book was a client side function and as such is not implemented here. So, no book is needed to med. You just need to be the correct level to have the med skill (I think it was level 5 on my cleric?).

Tumdumm
11-15-2010, 11:22 AM
speaking of which, remember everyones old emote macros from back in the day? seems like every caster had a "/em opens up his/her spellbook and meditates" or somethin of the sort

as a warrior i had a few spoofs including opening up smutty magazines or pretending to know how to read.

maybe it was just a morell thule thing,
or maybe just a nub thing since i never made it very far past blackburrow til kunark's sarnak fort

Lyrik
11-15-2010, 11:29 AM
INT caster - Level 4
WIS caster - Level 8
Hybrid - Level 12

Darklake
11-15-2010, 11:46 AM
Looking at other equivalents :-

Gate : INT 4, WIS 5
Bind : INT 12, WIS 14

Which is understandable, but Meditate should really have been 5 for WIS casters with their second round of spells, not 8.

Not something I'd quit the game over, just one of those annoying little quirks.

Rasah
11-15-2010, 11:54 AM
Looking at other equivalents :-

Gate : INT 4, WIS 5
Bind : INT 12, WIS 14

Which is understandable, but Meditate should really have been 5 for WIS casters with their second round of spells, not 8.

Not something I'd quit the game over, just one of those annoying little quirks.
Well, to be fair, the WIS casters can actually wear an armor, so they can reasonably tank/melee until 8.

I've been playing a "battle druid", and I'm still tanking at 23. That will change at 24, but my defense, offense, 1HB and 1HS are all maxed at least.

Thanks to all for the replies.

Dr4z3r
11-15-2010, 11:57 AM
Well, to be fair, the WIS casters can actually wear an armor, so they can reasonably tank/melee until 8.

With all that strength they have to carry their armor and weapons? Not to mention actually obtaining the armor (assuming no twinking)...

Henini
11-15-2010, 03:21 PM
I remember all the casters telling me "NIB"

and I was like "ill never play a caster, this is retarded"

Muchew
11-15-2010, 04:00 PM
Maybe it's obvious to everyone else, but i forgot to train a point into meditation when I hit level 8.

Remember to train a point into it!

quellren
11-15-2010, 07:32 PM
For my own satisfaction I timed it one time while shopping in EC. I gave everyone in casting range SoW and/or regen till literally OOM, opened the book and timed it with a stopwatch to FM. emptied the mana bar again and just sat down, no book.
The difference was maybe 2 seconds, which is of course accounting for human error in starting the stopwatch vs. mana ticks.

I don't remember how much raw mana i had at max, but at the time I was a lvl 19 or 20 troll shaman with 137 wisdom and a little +mana gear. It took right about 7 minutes to go from 0-2 mana to full.

Estu
11-15-2010, 09:10 PM
For my own satisfaction I timed it one time while shopping in EC. I gave everyone in casting range SoW and/or regen till literally OOM, opened the book and timed it with a stopwatch to FM. emptied the mana bar again and just sat down, no book.
The difference was maybe 2 seconds, which is of course accounting for human error in starting the stopwatch vs. mana ticks.

I don't remember how much raw mana i had at max, but at the time I was a lvl 19 or 20 troll shaman with 137 wisdom and a little +mana gear. It took right about 7 minutes to go from 0-2 mana to full.

SCIENCE.

William_Munny15
11-16-2010, 03:42 AM
Morell thule in the house!

Dangermouse
11-16-2010, 08:09 AM
With all that strength they have to carry their armor and weapons?

Troll shaman FTW!

Also, you can tell meditate works without the spell book open, as you get meditate skill ups when sitting down.