Are the server's best days behind it?

[lite]

The best and longest lasting rivalry in red 99 history was that of Nihilim V Azrael. After which zerging took on a whole new meaning. That's when things began to get pretty stale, and it's only been down hill since.


Pvp wise, what are you looking forward to?

Do you see contesting ever happening again?

[Kergan]

lol

rivalry

[iruinedyourday]

You think any new players give a shit about nih or azreal? nah, they are going to make their own future for the box.

for a hundred of active red players the only rivalry that mattered was the one between goog guys and empire.

People will post about a zerg guild on red years from now as if it was the first zerg guild on red.. Years later, that'll happen again and again.

Shits gonna be around for the rest of our lives so geg useg to it.

[Kergan]

The only reason Empire is bigger than Nihilum is because the total server population is higher. There are more options at 60 for a guild now than any point in the last 2 years.

If anyone thinks the Duke would have stopped recruiting to ensure dominance they r dum.

[HippoNipple]

A lot of people probably thought this when Holocaust 1.0 ended back during classic. A lot of people will probably say the same thing when they quit after Empire goes down for one reason or another.

Then someone like Farzo will make a thread just like this talking about the great rivalry between Friends and Empire back in the day.

[Vile]

Old world ftw. Kunark is OK...

[iiNGloriouS]

lol

rivalry

Idk we had some good fights. It just wasn't a stable rivalry. It was more of an on and off abusive relationship

[Swish]

when is Azrael coming back?

[Colgate]

lite created, by far, the largest "zerg" this server has ever seen

and then lost

and then quit

and now he's crying about "zerging" ruining the server

lol

[lite]

right?

[iruinedyourday]

lite created, by far, the largest "zerg" this server has ever seen

and then lost

and then quit

and now he's crying about "zerging" ruining the server

lol

facts, colgate has them.

[grannock]

Lite, Casual Scum and TMO seem to have the right idea. Play the game to have fun, you might take some lumps or not. You used to have a bit of this style with your leadership in Azreal, and it was always a lot of fun when you guys showed up to contest, even when we lost. Hopefully these newer guilds, and maybe Pandemonium soon, will be contesting Emp and doing just fine, there are a lot of targets to go around.

Unfortunately, you, and many of the cool people that could have made a competitive resistance when Velly first launched, allied with toxic elitist shitheads, who stayed offline or watched from paineel as we beat you in all of the mass pvp fights, and then half of you quit, and the other half fractured.

I told you after that PoH battle maybe 5 months ago, while I had only been on this server a month, that these guys like Roberto were huge facepalms. You guys had us dead to rights in PoH, we had no real way to break in other than port up a bunch of nekkid toons, and Slathar and his group ported out of the zone you had control of to try and snag a few nekkid YT's in WC. That was maybe the worst strategic move anyone has ever made on this box. 15 mins later we were standing on Inny's corpse.

..... I mean ya, if the entire resistance keeps being led by eurotrash, there will never be any more contesting on this box. They have shown time and time again they will never contest (was it a danish holiday last saturday when PD spawned?) and watch all their allies quit around them.

By the way, for the non euros being griefed into only playing from 2-10am cause you picked the wrong friends... are you having fun?

[lite]

Lite, Casual Scum and TMO seem to have the right idea. Play the game to have fun, you might take some lumps or not. You used to have a bit of this style with your leadership in Azreal, and it was always a lot of fun when you guys showed up to contest, even when we lost. Hopefully these newer guilds, and maybe Pandemonium soon, will be contesting Emp and doing just fine, there are a lot of targets to go around.

Unfortunately, you, and many of the cool people that could have made a competitive resistance when Velly first launched, allied with toxic elitist shitheads, who stayed offline or watched from paineel as we beat you in all of the mass pvp fights, and then half of you quit, and the other half fractured.

I told you after that PoH battle maybe 5 months ago, while I had only been on this server a month, that these guys like Roberto were huge facepalms. You guys had us dead to rights in PoH, we had no real way to break in other than port up a bunch of nekkid toons, and Slathar and his group ported out of the zone you had control of to try and snag a few nekkid YT's in WC. That was maybe the worst strategic move anyone has ever made on this box. 15 mins later we were standing on Inny's corpse.

..... I mean ya, if the entire resistance keeps being led by eurotrash, there will never be any more contesting on this box. They have shown time and time again they will never contest (was it a danish holiday last saturday when PD spawned?) and watch all their allies quit around them.

By the way, for the non euros being griefed into only playing from 2-10am cause you picked the wrong friends... are you having fun?


Yeah, I mean and I was able to pull off all of this. But I had only so many leet tricks in my hat, and there's only so many times you could pull them. Each time the enemy just showed up with more people, to compensate for lack of strategy.

This wouldn't have been the case without the static spawn model. Zerging was too viable. The end of competition was pretty much a sealed deal.

[xbo]

Yeah, I mean and I was able to pull off all of this. But I had only so many leet tricks in my hat, and there's only so many times you could pull them. Each time the enemy just showed up with more people, to compensate for lack of strategy.

This wouldn't have been the case without the static spawn model. Zerging was too viable.

I really don't understand why you are looking for people to commend you for what you did on this server. You boxed toons to raid buff yourself, you failed as a leader, boxed toons on raids and you shit up the forums 24/7. You are turning into the Mexican version of Drakar.

[lite]

Not looking for anyone to commend me on anything. That happens on a daily basis already, even by Empire members. Just genuinely concerned about if there are any possibilities for pvp again.

[Malevz]

Jet fuel can't melt fucking steel beams.

[xbo]

Not looking for anyone to commend me on anything. That happens on a daily basis already, even by Empire members. Just genuinely concerned about if there are any possibilities for pvp again.

Do you avoid other games with PvP because you won't be able to gain such an advantage as you would there via boxing etc. I mean everquest is a really shitty PvP game but for some reason it has someone who doesn't even play on the server still posting months after they quit.

[B4EQWASCOOL]

Love how you don't even refute that you boxed multiple characters on every encounter for years anymore.

You're really a giant piece of shit. Can't wait for Trump to become President and purge South Ro of all dervishes.

Decent conversation until someone can't tell the lines between real life and a video game.

[ducktv]

Lite, Casual Scum and TMO seem to have the right idea. Play the game to have fun, you might take some lumps or not. You used to have a bit of this style with your leadership in Azreal, and it was always a lot of fun when you guys showed up to contest, even when we lost. Hopefully these newer guilds, and maybe Pandemonium soon, will be contesting Emp and doing just fine, there are a lot of targets to go around.

Unfortunately, you, and many of the cool people that could have made a competitive resistance when Velly first launched, allied with toxic elitist shitheads, who stayed offline or watched from paineel as we beat you in all of the mass pvp fights, and then half of you quit, and the other half fractured.

I told you after that PoH battle maybe 5 months ago, while I had only been on this server a month, that these guys like Roberto were huge facepalms. You guys had us dead to rights in PoH, we had no real way to break in other than port up a bunch of nekkid toons, and Slathar and his group ported out of the zone you had control of to try and snag a few nekkid YT's in WC. That was maybe the worst strategic move anyone has ever made on this box. 15 mins later we were standing on Inny's corpse.

..... I mean ya, if the entire resistance keeps being led by eurotrash, there will never be any more contesting on this box. They have shown time and time again they will never contest (was it a danish holiday last saturday when PD spawned?) and watch all their allies quit around them.

By the way, for the non euros being griefed into only playing from 2-10am cause you picked the wrong friends... are you having fun?

scrolled right on through that one.

contesting will happen. it just won't be against empire.

[Zyzzerzazz]

Go die in a fire if you think the server is dead. Many of us in thunderdome are having a blast and it's only getting better.

Eq pvp is terrible. Don't play it for the pvp.

[iruinedyourday]

maybe just, I dono, like dont assume the server is dead.. instead of death by fire?

[Gustoo]

Old world is best era and pre holocaust ban is obviously best part of this server.

Beta was best part of server if that counts.

But there are a lot of reasons for this.

I think right now is better than late period maximum stale kunark. Lots more content for a lot of more guilds to enjoy. More population, more better.

I really think old world is the best period in this game by far. Sure it is rough for monks to have to make a human second class monk, but at the same time that is the coolest era for monks, when they have no gear at all and are still a solid class. Everything about pre-kunark is most correct and well thought out IMO.

The fact that one of the best 1hs weapons in classic (the SSOY) is basically a vendor item in kunark era tells you something.

Velious is a better expansion because while it has a lot of gear that supercedes kunark, much of kunark remains relevant in it's own way, unlike LGUK in kunark era

[JayN]

no longer giving out guises at gm events; shits done! Golden parachute time

[billyretruns]

IT WILL BE TORN FROM WITHIN

[Mus3t11]

Eq pvp is terrible. Don't play it for the pvp.

EQ pvp is the absolute bomb...ask those who played every version of the VZTZ box. Even after Gronkus up and left with our box that we donated for, he would be welcome to come back and right this absolute tragedy of a "pvp" server.

[notcast]

voting in a pointless thread yowl

[Drakaris]

The best and longest lasting rivalry in red 99 history was that of Nihilim V Azrael. After which zerging took on a whole new meaning. That's when things began to get pretty stale, and it's only been down hill since.


Pvp wise, what are you looking forward to?

Do you see contesting ever happening again?

Yeah the rivalry was great, even though I was griefed while trying to progress my characters early days, I prefer those times to now.

Won't play this server in its current state, may as well convert this to Blue 2.0 and start a fresh new PvP box.

[Vile]

EQ pvp is the absolute bomb...ask those who played every version of the VZTZ box. Even after Gronkus up and left with our box that we donated for, he would be welcome to come back and right this absolute tragedy of a "pvp" server.

glory days

[Stasis01]

This is a good PVE progression box and feels like live.

If you wanted a more PVP focused box you'd need boxing to allow people to port/buff etc and get to PVP, and you would need to make raid content easier so people can stay independent of the dominant guild and still progress to end game.

Won't happen on Red99, or at least for awhile because of drop rates and difficulty of the content.

[Mus3t11]

This is a good PVE progression box

There it is.

We can now officially /thread and acknowledge that pvp is dead.


http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/535/630/af1.jpg

[iruinedyourday]

Pvp was better when there were just 30 of you?

[Gaunja]

Pvp was better when there were just 30 of you?

Lol nice

[Supreme]

You made this server into what it is now deal with it.

[Samsung]

You made this server into what it is now deal with it.

Like nizzar was great for this server, just stfu.

[cdasilva7]

This is a good PVE progression box

/thread

[grannock]

Yeah, I mean and I was able to pull off all of this. But I had only so many leet tricks in my hat, and there's only so many times you could pull them. Each time the enemy just showed up with more people, to compensate for lack of strategy.

This wouldn't have been the case without the static spawn model. Zerging was too viable. The end of competition was pretty much a sealed deal.

You guys were able to gather a zerg a handful of times... It always fell apart. That has to do with having your core group of best players refusal to help newer members. Thats kinda key in a game where you need 60 people to raid the high end content.

[Stasis01]

During the last year of Kunark there was 30+ Azrael that had roughly the same gear as Nihi minus crowns and AONs.

And even then we had some of those.

[Ragnaros]

People still play this server?

[Malevz]

Another thread where lite tries to start something so he can feel relevant still, and people cry and whine but use excuses to pretend they are concerned about the server.

Same threads since it was pre kunark with double digit/single digit pop. Need original content.

[Gwynraven]

This is a good PVE progression box and feels like live.

If you wanted a more PVP focused box you'd need boxing to allow people to port/buff etc and get to PVP, and you would need to make raid content easier so people can stay independent of the dominant guild and still progress to end game.

Won't happen on Red99, or at least for awhile because of drop rates and difficulty of the content.

This is the exact definition of eqpvp.com , and yet none playing there atm :s

[Thrilla]

I don't agree at all. There are more people on the server. During the Nilly vs Azrael (whichever Azrael iteration) the pop peaked at 140-160.

There are more guilds, more players, less contesting. Empire cannot control the less contesting part. I'm not sure what the long term plan for Friends, TMO, and Casual Scum is but I'd imagine at some point they will want a taste of the bigger pixels and would put a fight, likely when Empire numbers take a blow, because as you know even with Nihilum after enough time people get bored and the guild has to go more into a recruitment phase.

I think there are better days ahead if we're talking contesting, but it starts with the OP ;)

[Stasis01]

Yeah except the code is buggy and shitty.

[Gwynraven]

Yeah except the code is buggy and shitty.

I dont see why the code is buggy and shitty, been playing there for 1 year and everything fine ( more or less )

[Ragnaros]

Server pop only rose cuz exp bonus
Pop declining no server competition
Enjoy your dead server c u on discord

[lite]

I think there are better days ahead if we're talking contesting, but it starts with the OP ;)


nahhh

I put in my time, and I would have been done with the box a lot sooner had it not been for Sirken telling me things would change time and time again.

the 3 way for Severilous showed us what a pvp server could be. Then Rogean decided only he could trigger sim pops on a server he literally doesn't give a fuck about, unless it's to mock Empire.

[magician]

we lost against empire or got kicked out for being a toxic loser

server is now stale and dead why would anyone play here

c U on discord for only 1 month

[Seltius]

There will always be some form of competition whether it is for who gets a kill or who gets loot off a target. I think there is an opportunity for anyone who enjoys PVP on this server because while Empire is the biggest guild a lot of them don't bother with PVP as much. Unfortunately the ones who do because of gear are kinda like fighting an infantry unit with rocks, spears, and swords.

But the key to it is win or lose have fun.

I will be the first to admit I am probably the most inexperienced in pvp on this server and probably have one of the worst kd ratios on leaderboards. Not because I am horrible(which I probably am) but because of inexperience and the fact that I just don't care about things like that. I will stand there and take repeated deaths and have just as much fun joking with the people killing me as I would if I were the one getting the kills.

At the end of the day you play to have fun. If this server isn't fun then no judgment here go play where or what you have fun at. I think this server will remain until they pull the plug for the simple fact there are people that have fun here.

If competition is your thing don't talk about it DO SOMETHING about it. You want to PVP do it don't worry about what others think. You want to PVE do it again who cares what others think.

But don't just talk about it on forums grow a pair step up and build that force to compete. Trade the rocks and spears for something that can put a dent in the charge. You have to start somewhere and the best way is with a strong core. I wasn't here for all the other guilds but I am betting they collapsed not because of a few toxic people but because they didn't have a strong core. Or they had people that weren't playing the game to have fun and for themselves.

Throughout history the forces that won or survived did it through adapting to their opponents tactics. Smaller forces have always had a better chance as long as they were able to adapt than forces that didn't or that tried to hold on to one tactic and never willing learned or changed.

In closing since I think I rambled here. Start your guild or group of friends small and build. Become tight knit and build a friendship that will survive the pixels because you don't want your core bailing on you later when you need them.

Start with beginner armor go to quest gear then to old world raid content and from there who knows. The sky is the limit. Don't immediately try to jump to endgame once you get noticed when your small a timer starts.

Edit...

[Rallos]

This is a good PVE progression box and feels like live.

If you wanted a more PVP focused box you'd need boxing to allow people to port/buff etc and get to PVP, and you would need to make raid content easier so people can stay independent of the dominant guild and still progress to end game.

Won't happen on Red99, or at least for awhile because of drop rates and difficulty of the content.

This is the exact definition of eqpvp.com , and yet none playing there atm :s

Both spot on.

However, EQ is a game where gear and stats make a huge difference. Even on EQPVP servers where the goal is to be "more pvp-centric" it always ends up being a big farm box. You can literally clear TOV with 15 people boxing, and that's what ends up happening. Does PvP happen? Yes, but it also happens on Red with much more encounters because of a much larger player base.

Red has the cleanest most progressed code base and so it will continue to reign. Accept the fact that EQ is a game where Loot is important. Whether you have a guild that can field 60 for a raid, or 20 for a raid, you are raiding and getting loot for advantages.

Basically deal with it. If you are bitter and sour over the server not playing out the way you hoped it would in your head, then it's time to move on.

[Ragnaros]

ya plz compete against half the server
why arent u competing waaa waaaa
Those of you preaching are...and have always been part of the problem...taking the easy route and expecting others to actually have to play the game to progress

Good example
Thrilla and burt always been carried by a zerg with no effort involved..expects other people to work hard,and play against their playstyle boundaries

[Deluxeee]

Yep--them easy routers

[Stasis01]

I dont see why the code is buggy and shitty, been playing there for 1 year and everything fine ( more or less )

I don't know it feels like a shitty private server that isn't worth investing time into.

It doesn't feel like Everquest, and I played there over many boxes starting with guild wars like 10 years ago.

Whether my SK had a shitty kunark SK 2hnder or my epic it didn't feel like there was a difference. Resists didn't really seem to make a difference.

I guess it didn't feel like EQ, it was easy mode but there was no reward in gearing up as even with relatively shitty gear you were hitting insane DPS.

Just feels like a shitty private garage box that could go away at any moment, and doesn't really feel at all like EQ.

Without the p99 code there's no hope of a PVP focused box, even with all the work Image and Dev put in it still feels like garbage.

[lite]

I think there are better days ahead if we're talking contesting, but it starts with the OP ;)


Zergs are composed primarily of all the kids who'd pass the controller to their older brother when that one jump in Mario was coming up. After which, they'd somehow still feel a sense of accomplishment.


If I want to compete here, I have to give those dudes my tag.. no

I did my time, and everyone here agrees Azrael was the best pvp guild. There's literally nothing left for me here besides creating a zerg, which makes me want to blow my brains.

[xbo]

Ever notice the people who lost the server are the ones questioning why others still play

[HippoNipple]

Server pop only rose cuz exp bonus
Pop declining no server competition
Enjoy your dead server c u on discord

Does your girlfriend know you are posting on elf sim boards and plan to play on the discord server?

[HippoNipple]

Zergs are composed primarily of all the kids who'd pass the controller to their older brother when that one jump in Mario was coming up. After which, they'd somehow still feel a sense of accomplishment.


If I want to compete here, I have to give those dudes my tag.. no

I did my time, and everyone here agrees Azrael was the best pvp guild. There's literally nothing left for me here besides creating a zerg, which makes me want to blow my brains.

Zergs are primarily comprised of employed individuals that log in and play a game here and there. They don't even realize you are mad about it.

[Stasis01]

Zergs are composed primarily of all the kids who'd pass the controller to their older brother when that one jump in Mario was coming up. After which, they'd somehow still feel a sense of accomplishment.


If I want to compete here, I have to give those dudes my tag.. no

I did my time, and everyone here agrees Azrael was the best pvp guild. There's literally nothing left for me here besides creating a zerg, which makes me want to blow my brains.

We fought like 10 times over 3 years, you never promoted working with others and we lost all the time to the point that I hated my favorite game Everquest.

The server is no different with you being gone, except I don't need to feel bad shitting on noobs in the #1 guild anymore.

Good riddance.

[Stasis01]

And if you need any proof look at all the Ex Az that didn't go Empire and how angry they are on the forums.

Good job leading them to that end.

[Rallos]

Adults don't have time to try and make long term eFriendships just to "challenge" themselves to try and compete for raid mobs with a guild of 18 people.

Cringing at everyone that tries to spin the fact that they are too dysfunctional to attract and maintain a raid ready guild size.

If a small guild size is the thing you ACTUALLY wanted, you wouldn't be making 5-10 threads a day complaining about your small useless guild size.

(I don't see slosh on a cry-campaign. They seem to be perfectly happy with their size and niche from the outside, and I am afraid they are the most feared in terms of PvP prowess - not Azrael)

[lite]

Need to pair up with as much dead weight as possible to secure that I get geared as quickly as I can without competition, so I can get owned by much better players for a few seconds longer.

ftfy

[Malevz]

Cringing at everyone that tries to spin the fact that they are too dysfunctional to attract and maintain a raid ready guild size.


This, this sums up pretty much every whiny thread on this board.

I'm not sure what is worse, repeatedly failing lite, or 20 threads a day lite.

[GoldScar]

VZTZ come back

[lite]

I am afraid they are the most feared in terms of PvP prowess - not Azrael)

Should have seen all your guild officers crying in the Red Dawn forums about how Azrael are the best pvp'rs. I still have some screenshots, I will get em for you.

[snufzaimoverlord]

Its funny being a "zerg" when you are using the numbers that the content requires.

Vindi is always up guys, go kill him with under 40, and he is by far the easiest Velly raid mob.

I'm having fun as I'm sure the other 300+ who log in everyday at primetime are to.

I love winning.

[Samsung]

Its funny being a "zerg" when you are using the numbers that the content requires.

Vindi is always up guys, go kill him with under 40, and he is by far the easiest Velly raid mob.

I'm having fun as I'm sure the other 300+ who log in everyday at primetime are to.

I love winning.

We can barely kill vindi uncontested sadly or we would be killing him.

[Rallos]

I'm sure you printed them out and taped them around your room because you don't seem to have much going for you other than some purple text from someone probably crushing pills with their moms credit card.

Nobody cares about you, or your guild, and you seem to already know this. You quoted me twice which means my post really hit you hard in the feels.

[lite]

Nobody cares about you, or your guild,

Yeah, I mean.. Only the most decorated BoTB champion on the box, who your own guildies refer to as best pvp'r .. in a league of my own.

Any thread I touch turns into super hot fire. If I want to discuss something, everyone has to discuss it. That's just what it is.


http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/supa-hot-fire.gif

[Malevz]

Its funny being a "zerg" when you are using the numbers that the content requires.

Vindi is always up guys, go kill him with under 40, and he is by far the easiest Velly raid mob.

I'm having fun as I'm sure the other 300+ who log in everyday at primetime are to.

I love winning.

Nihilum was a zerg in the days of doing VP with 25-30. First Trak kill was 23-24 people.

Excuses.

[Seltius]

This one time at Ban..err EQ camp...

[Rallos]

ftfy

So, who was the deadweight? The Friends crew that split off with half your guild, or you and the remaining Azrael that didn't go with them?

I'm guessing it was you and your guild considering Friends are still in full effect and everyone that got ditched has quit/spread around to other guilds.

Must hurt.

[Gardur]

Contesting will happen in time. Empire numbers will fall from raid fatigue and TMO/CS/friends/pande will bleed numbers to each other as their players start to perceive one or the other as the best chance at progression or contesting.

We're in a kind of competitive phase where the non empire guilds are jockeying for croots and trying hard to progress for that feather in their cap.

Eventually someone will gain a clear advantage and the others will bleed numbers to that guild.

Of course each will retain a core because I think just about everyone is against guild mergers at this point.

CS crootin yowl.

[Qtip]

Yeah, I mean.. Only the most decorated BoTB champion on the box, who your own guildies refer to as best pvp'r .. in a league of my own.

Any thread I touch turns into super hot fire. If I want to discuss something, everyone has to discuss it. That's just what it is.


http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/supa-hot-fire.gif

Who the fuck cares. Its a free 15 year old game. Play the game or shut the fuck up already.

[Rhuobhe]

I was a part of Red Dawn and followed that stupid 'Rebel' mentality at the time. I didn't like Nihilum. But during the period where the Duke was banned and the strategic initiative briefly switched over to <Azrael> and the rest of the so called 'resistance'. You guys opted to stay small and hid behind the pretense of 'not becoming another zerg' so that you can farm pixels for yourselves. That was so stupid. just showed that none of you actually had the leadership or patience to lead the server to victory. You are all a bunch of retards in the end and always will be. What a shame.

[Mus3t11]

The whole, "Empire will lose people" is dumb as hell. .. there's 13 classes, and access to easy pixels... all you guys should hold your breath for that day.

And stop inflating the population numbers... it hasn't reached above 300 at all this week, confirmed as I'm working at my pc at home during "prime time"

[Gardur]

Empire members say their numbers will drop too.

[Ghost of Jibekn]

Contesting will happen in time. Empire numbers will fall from raid fatigue and TMO/CS/friends/pande will bleed numbers to each other as their players start to perceive one or the other as the best chance at progression or contesting.

We're in a kind of competitive phase where the non empire guilds are jockeying for croots and trying hard to progress for that feather in their cap.

Eventually someone will gain a clear advantage and the others will bleed numbers to that guild.

Of course each will retain a core because I think just about everyone is against guild mergers at this point.

CS crootin yowl.

gardur i love you man but I dont think you get it. casual's will never beat neckbeards even with equal numbers. All you are doing is fueling their desire to stay on top. I tried to explain this to many people when <Good Guys> was on the verge of being created. I tried to tell people it was a bad idea but If its what people really wanted I would try to help for the resistance.

I would say inside empire there are about 60-70 neckbeards with about 50-100 casuals, outside of empire I would say there are 15-20 neckbeards and many more casuals. The numbers arent even remotely close for any kind of real competition.

server's pvp days are over. nothing but grief left and an alternate blue farming server for the most extreme degenerates in the eq community.

[Ragnaros]

ya gardur pretty new and clueless

[lite]

gardur i love you man but I dont think you get it. casual's will never beat neckbeards even with equal numbers. All you are doing is fueling their desire to stay on top. I tried to explain this to many people when <Good Guys> was on the verge of being created. I tried to tell people it was a bad idea but If its what people really wanted I would try to help for the resistance.

I would say inside empire there are about 60-70 neckbeards with about 50-100 casuals, outside of empire I would say there are 15-20 neckbeards and many more casuals. The numbers arent even remotely close for any kind of real competition.

server's pvp days are over. nothing but grief left and an alternate blue farming server for the most extreme degenerates in the eq community.

probably smartest post you've made.

spot on description.

People can say there are this many people outside of Empire all you want, so recruit and contest. It's far from the same. Empire leaders have unreal playtime and absorbed all the other neckbeards during the Kunark zerg era, which is the reason that I keep pointing to Kunark as the source of the problem. During Kunark many different factions should have been getting established, in the way things were booming during the RD AZ NH days.


The damage caused by the Rogean spawn system during the Kunark era is irreversible.

[miraclegrow2]

Alot of you guys need to do something with your lives

( Something not related to everquest )

[Gardur]

ya gardur pretty new and clueless

I've played my fair share of eq. I didn't say we're going to challenge empire for top slot pals. I said there will be contesting.

I have zero desire for a second job but I really do want to mass pvp again.

It will happen.

[xbo]

probably smartest post you've made.

spot on description.

People can say there are this many people outside of Empire all you want, so recruit and contest. It's far from the same. Empire leaders have unreal playtime and absorbed all the other neckbeards during the Kunark zerg era, which is the reason that I keep pointing to Kunark as the source of the problem. During Kunark many different factions should have been getting established, in the way things were booming during the RD AZ NH days.


The damage caused by the Rogean spawn system during the Kunark era is irreversible.

Yeah man apparently we have more neckbeards in our guild than total people that show up to raids. Who knows where the casuals went. But go figure 2 people that don't even play on the server pretending to have an opinion.

[Rallos]

Uhhh... id actually have to say that the highest population of "neckbeards" are in the smaller guilds like Friends, because they have to maintain a much higher playtime in order to have the classes available to do anything, and to farm all of their potions etc.

You can play around Empire very easily, they are the most casual of the entire server. They might have 5-10 people playing around the clock, but majority of them play on a schedule because they have less free time.

Mind blowing concept that busier people prefer scheduled and manageable playtime.

[billyretruns]

The true neckbeards is the gut still farming highkeep solo at lv 50 and proud

[Mus3t11]

I've played my fair share of eq. I didn't say we're going to challenge empire for top slot pals. I said there will be contesting.

I have zero desire for a second job but I really do want to mass pvp again.

It will happen.

Optimist...the world is full of them, and they always get in the way of true progress.

[Gardur]

Yeah, sorry I haven't let elf sim politics ruin my immersion.

Someone has to try and build something positive here. I'll be that guy until game isn't fun anymore.

[grannock]

Yeah, sorry I haven't let elf sim politics ruin my immersion.

Someone has to try and build something positive here. I'll be that guy until game isn't fun anymore.

Keep it up buddy your doing a good job.




I love it how nobody gives any credit to terp, cyren, gongshow and colgate for putting in the time, recruiting and keeping all the "badass neckbeards" on the server? Like its really fucking easy to keep 50 lewt hungry fuckheads in line when there is no transparent dkp system. They made the guild that is dominating the server. Beastagoor, jibekn, lite, rag, plenty pther have tried this and failed over and over. Social skillset not so EZ?

That same group just keeps crying about other people fucking the server up. You had a bigger zerg guild than empn3 months ago, you burned it down in weeks, dont blame anyone but the poor leadership.

[lite]

Keep it up buddy your doing a good job.




I love it how nobody gives any credit to terp, cyren, gongshow and colgate for putting in the time,

I've pras'd them time and time again for adopting playtimes that make Nizzar look casual.

[iruinedyourday]

I've played my fair share of eq. I didn't say we're going to challenge empire for top slot pals. I said there will be contesting.

I have zero desire for a second job but I really do want to mass pvp again.

It will happen.

remember when we told you not to trust those scumbags like Ragnaros and you didnt believe us?

[grannock]

I've pras'd them time and time again for adopting playtimes that make Nizzar look casual.

Not even true, gong, colgate and terp play for like 5 hours a day, mostly raiding. Cyren... Well he cooks meth in rural oklahoma so hes got lots of time.

[Gardur]

remember when we told you not to trust those scumbags like Ragnaros and you didnt believe us?


Fresh joining GG was a result of Empire's relentless attacks on us. I told gong and Colgate both if that continued they would make Freshies hate Empire. I understand they did it to punish Max for his reddit/FQ but they did so without caring about the consequences.

They basically took a nascent raiding guild that hated Friends and turned it into a resistance recruiting ground. Not one core member wanted anything to do with empire after that.

These things are not so black and white as FQ makes them out to be. Eq is a game of people and personalities.

I'm sure gong has SS of our convos, ask him to see them.

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

Was gonna say, where are all the new neckbeards gonna come from to magically revitalize r99 pvp?

Empire united the majority of neckbeards who play 16hrs and give no fucks about opportunity costs of a 300days /played

Not even an EMpire carve out, meaning a grp challening from within Empire ranks because GCTC smart enough to groom and sooth with pixels and attention

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

GG was the best shot the server ever had to rebalance into a nice cold-war kinda scenario and it dissolved exactly 2 weeks too short

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

early* not short

[Mus3t11]

Miss me some Erock.

He rose from the ashes as a blinding light of intensity in the form of a bird...and flew away.

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

shout out to the private gomer pyle looking dude kamikazing one of the key guys of the other site to ruin the prospect of nice mass pvp for everyone

[iruinedyourday]

Fresh joining GG was a result of Empire's relentless attacks on us. I told gong and Colgate both if that continued they would make Freshies hate Empire. I understand they did it to punish Max for his reddit/FQ but they did so without caring about the consequences.

They basically took a nascent raiding guild that hated Friends and turned it into a resistance recruiting ground. Not one core member wanted anything to do with empire after that.

These things are not so black and white as FQ makes them out to be. Eq is a game of people and personalities.

I'm sure gong has SS of our convos, ask him to see them.

wait so you're blaming empire, who was retaliating against your guild leaders attacks on the forums, for you joining with people empire said, 'well not only leave you alone if you dont join up with them but we'll even help you progress if you dont, but if you do join up with them, well drive you into the ground.'

Gardur I like you but sometimes you get some of your information/memories a bit muddled :)

[Malevz]

You can play around Empire very easily, they are the most casual of the entire server. They might have 5-10 people playing around the clock, but majority of them play on a schedule because they have less free time.

Mind blowing concept that busier people prefer scheduled and manageable playtime.

Yesterday got home from work, made a sandwich/got a drink, raided NToV, went for a swim in the pool, netflix, then bed.

Feels good to be in a casual, small, christian family guild.

[Kergan]

At least Good Guys was a serious attempt at overthrowing Empire. Shockingly, in came from mass recruiting people and not being elitist assholes. I love how Lite refers to the infamous Sev threesome as the pinnacle of PVP on this server, because it was a direct result of Red Dawn mass recruiting to the point they had enough warm bodies to contest something. I also love how he torpedoed Red Dawn almost single handed shortly after that.

The fact is Azrael is the reason Nihilum stayed in power for so long. They are also the reason Empire was able to take over the server within a couple months after Nihilum was disbanded. Azrael, without a doubt, is the worst thing ever to happen to R99 due to the fact their existence as the 2nd option virtually ensured the top guild would never fail.

Learn to EverQuest.

[Gardur]

Nah, I'm the only person on the server who saw all sides of that episode. I assure you my memory is accurate.

No one wanted empires help. They wanted to fight back. The best shot at giving empire a black eye was GG so that's what they did.

If I had any say in the matter Max would have just stopped posting like I asked him to and Fresh would be downing Vindi today.

[Supreme]

Like nizzar was great for this server, just stfu.

Nizzar is my ace boon coon but you brought him up not I.

The problem is that this server is a bunch of grown men playing guns acting like it is Gettysburg.

[iruinedyourday]

At least Good Guys was a serious attempt

I dont know if I'd call it a serious attempt, considering pretty much all empire members called the ending of the fight before it even started.. I mean it went down exactly like pretty much everyone non goog guys predicted.

But it was fun, and Yea I had a great time.. But I simply was pointing out (when this conversation started) that of course the scum that garder banded together with is now attacking him on the forums, once again as predicted. :)

[Ragnaros]

good guys was great, we smashed empire everytime they played by the rules and brought even numbers
think we stole trak sev and fay for like a month straight?

[iruinedyourday]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/915/152/aed.jpg

[Supreme]

The fact is Azrael is the reason Nihilum stayed in power for so long. They are also the reason Empire was able to take over the server within a couple months after Nihilum was disbanded. Azrael, without a doubt, is the worst thing ever to happen to R99 due to the fact their existence as the 2nd option virtually ensured the top guild would never fail.

Learn to EverQuest.

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTKefUQbRyJH0OpGWJT_uLExnw9Y3p30 wU5ep6i22u5cn0Jli2YYg

[Heebo]

good guys was great, we smashed empire everytime they played by the rules and brought even numbers
think we stole trak sev and fay for like a month straight?

lol

[lite]

Azrael didn't zerg, so it's the reason Empire was able to succeed with zerging, kk.

[Nirgon]

ya you started it

[iruinedyourday]

Azrael didn't zerg, so it's the reason Empire was able to succeed with zerging, kk.

no ones talking about your dumb guild nobody wanted to join on this page.

[lite]

I already said I didn't have a problem with people zerging. It's the best way to take on a pvp oriented enemy, and Rogean made it super viable.

most ur guild agreed with that statement at one point or another

[Kergan]

Azrael didn't zerg, so it's the reason Empire was able to succeed with zerging, kk.

You called Nihilum a zerg then raided with the same numbers when they were gone. You called Empire a zerg then joined one just as big if not bigger with Good Guys.

The only constant with you is failure.

[lite]

azrael was such a zerg

can't believe it brought about the best pvp'rs

[heartbrand]

GUYS ROGEAN INVENTED THE STRATEGY OF HAVING MORE PLAYERS THAN THE OTHER TEAM IN ORDER TO WIN PVP IF ONLY THERE WERE MORE SIM REPOPS WHERE TARGETS COULD BE KILLED WITHOUT PVP THERE WOULD BE MORE PVP

[Ghost of Jibekn]

heartbrand you used to be somebody

[lite]

heartbrand you used to be somebody

agreed, red dawn was pretty cool. If sim pops had remained it could have added up to something.

[Nirgon]

You guarded KC with 140 people :o

Turned out zerging wasn't super viable for you there

O well

[lite]

There were only about 35 Azrael warriors there that day, the majority of the people present were just out of range younglings in separate teamspeaks.


Azrael has always been happy to do it's part for the resistance.

[Malevz]

Azrael didn't zerg, so it's the reason Empire was able to succeed with zerging, kk.

Azrael failed with large numbers too lets not forget. 60 in Ntov? Pffft, we used 80 on live.

Guilds with large numbers only work if they have good leadership, and members willing to follow that leadership. Empire has great leadership, and members that... well we're somewhat competent, enough to understand IN, OUT, and PUSH if there's nothing good on chaturbate.

Empire has Gong, Colgate, Omai, Constantine, Cyren


Azrael/GG had:
-Lite and his history of 20+ failed guilds, small and "zerg", RMTer, boxer...
-Jibeknn and his propaganda videos? Man you play an EMU... his failed guild he used to farm fungis for DKP for him, oh and banned for RMT
-Vaporize/Tune who couldn't lead the most sucessful guild on the server for a few weeks without Nizzar to hold their hand. Vapo banned on 29 (?) accounts and Tune banned for macroquesting.
-Strydur who quit over a robe in Nihilum for several weeks, after he had just gotten some big loot. Raged out.
-Agatha... really? an officer?

Listen to the "double dragon" youtube video in Empire recruiting thread posted recently of the officers laughing and joking as we wiped.

Then think back to Lite going person by person through teamspeak yelling at people to tell them why they aren't the spy.

Ya, total mystery why it turned out this way. Total fucking mystery.

[lite]

tldr, who is maelvz

[Malevz]

Tottttttttttttttttal mystery.

[Malevz]

Also, wouldn't bother with tldr. Someone that lies about not playing, or doesn't play and still reads the boards is obviously too invested to skip over posts.

[lite]

I have no problem reading long posts from relevant players. you're just not one of them. It's kind of like how every thread I make is a hit, and you'd be lucky to get a pity reply.

[Malevz]

Let me just say this in closing.

Nizzar and Nihilum. Owned the server for years, good chunk of which Lite was only mentioned with the words 'yeti caves' and laughter. Nizzar was successful, and when banned was able to move on.

Lite's claims to fame were boxing, RMTing a PD robe to Sektor for a headset, the yeti caves incident, and 20 failed guilds.... and yet he can't let go of this place. Like a weepy GF that can't take the hint she's been dumped, keeps coming back to the message boards for attention and recognition.

Something to think about. Good luck god bless.

[heartbrand]

from reading lite's posts ud think azrael routinely swooped in and destroyed nihilum over multiple raid targets a week and was a devastating force in holding back the nihilum zerg

in actuality i think they took 2 trakanon's when we were killing him with 19 people on weeknights, and they camped in PD's lair a couple of times on sim repops, while Nizzar was leading the guild, over the course of 2.5 years

[Ghost of Jibekn]

from reading lite's posts ud think azrael routinely swooped in and destroyed nihilum over multiple raid targets a week and was a devastating force in holding back the nihilum zerg

in actuality i think they took 2 trakanon's when we were killing him with 19 people on weeknights, and they camped in PD's lair a couple of times on sim repops, while Nizzar was leading the guild, over the course of 2.5 years

does your family know you still take on the <Holocaust> name in your sig even after the staff changed the name because of all the racism,bigotry, and swastikas your sim friends were throwing around the server?

[xbo]

does your family know you still take on the <Holocaust> name in your sig even after the staff changed the name because of all the racism,bigotry, and swastikas your sim friends were throwing around the server?

Banned for RMT. LOL

[grannock]

Fresh joining GG was a result of Empire's relentless attacks on us. I told gong and Colgate both if that continued they would make Freshies hate Empire. I understand they did it to punish Max for his reddit/FQ but they did so without caring about the consequences.

They basically took a nascent raiding guild that hated Friends and turned it into a resistance recruiting ground. Not one core member wanted anything to do with empire after that.

These things are not so black and white as FQ makes them out to be. Eq is a game of people and personalities.

I'm sure gong has SS of our convos, ask him to see them.


Thats really not how it went down. Fresh could have stayed neutral but choose to ally with azrael/friends cause they had you drinking the kool-aid that it was "a guild that slays dragons and cares about YOUR progression!"

Rag has never given a shit about another person for as long as ive known him, so it was obvious that wasnt gonna end well.

Lets just ask this question Gardur, do you regret forming Good Guys? Or was that just an innevatible steping stone to where your at with CS right now?

[Ragnaros]

Thats really not how it went down. Fresh could have stayed neutral but choose to ally with azrael/friends cause they had you drinking the kool-aid that it was "a guild that slays dragons and cares about YOUR progression!"

Rag has never given a shit about another person for as long as ive known him, so it was obvious that wasnt gonna end well.

Lets just ask this question Gardur, do you regret forming Good Guys? Or was that just an innevatible steping stone to where your at with CS right now?

who are you

[grannock]

good guys was great, we smashed empire everytime they played by the rules and brought even numbers
think we stole trak sev and fay for like a month straight?

Hahahhaahha right Rag, demolished us at every turn.

[Ragnaros]

uh ya felt good beating colgate led forces @ 4 am in trakanons teeth

[Farzo]

There won't be any resistance because the opposition has no leadership willing the put balls 2 the walls to take it far.

Beastagor - afraid of getting YT'd wouldn't be CAUGHT seen in compromising situations of PvP or leading his guild. (alteast not without HT up to avoid yt) i.e. self-serving.

Vaporize - was all for been an officer when he had something to fufill his control issues with, i.e guild bank. Wont lead outside that. i.e self serving.

Jibken - was prob the most legit chance co-leading with Lite, but realized Lite was an RMTer and both burnt their relationship over an Azure robe sold to Sektorz. Hokuten was the best resistance guild I've seen 2 date.

Lite - played the odds better than the above^, cocaine snorter, self serving i.e selling guild loot etc etc. quit like 50 times since been beaten, cant handle not been in control.

Can you start 2 see a trend forming..........???

[grannock]

uh ya felt good beating colgate led forces @ 4 am in trakanons teeth

Yep, Good Guys outplayed us everytime laying the foundation for their server takover when velly launched...

[Ragnaros]

who r u guys again
maybe utanven can tell me w/ his new eyepatch

[Farzo]

There won't be any resistance because the opposition has no leadership willing the put balls 2 the walls to take it far.

Beastagor - afraid of getting YT'd wouldn't be CAUGHT seen in compromising situations of PvP or leading his guild. (alteast not without HT up to avoid yt) i.e. self-serving.

Vaporize - was all for been an officer when he had something to fufill his control issues with, i.e guild bank. Wont lead outside that. i.e self serving.

Jibken - was prob the most legit chance co-leading with Lite, but realized Lite was an RMTer and both burnt their relationship over an Azure robe sold to Sektorz. Hokuten was the best resistance guild I've seen 2 date.

Lite - played the odds better than the above^, cocaine snorter, self serving i.e selling guild loot etc etc. quit like 50 times since been beaten, cant handle not been in control.

Can you start 2 see a trend forming..........???

Also all the guys listed play/ed EQ 16 hrs a day so work wasn't an issue for them.

[Sektor]

Red 99's best days are prob over, unless Gongshow does something crazy and splits his guild into 3 after gearing everyone up.

[Farzo]

who r u guys again
maybe utanven can tell me w/ his new eyepatch

ur dumb if u think I a) care he got a patch, or b) u think, I care lol. thanks for the 17k for 20secs engaging a mob.

u really starting 2 lose it rag, can we revert you back to the happy go lucky rag from 6 month ago?

first degree brain rot from waking up and playing @ 1-7am with your guild.

[Ragnaros]

ur dumb if u think I a) care he got a patch, or b) u think, I care lol. thanks for the 17k for 20secs engaging a mob.

u really starting 2 lose it rag, can we revert you back to the happy go lucky rag from 6 month ago?

first degree brain rot from waking up and playing @ 1-7am with your guild.

http://i.stack.imgur.com/JpKP0.jpg

[grannock]

who r u guys again
maybe utanven can tell me w/ his new eyepatch

Did you get a new job working the graveyard shift? I never see you around during primetime?

[Farzo]

he's suffering from sleep deprivation.

[Ragnaros]

I don't play ive been overdosing in sex lately no time for video games

[Mus3t11]

I don't play ive been overdosing in sex lately no time for video games

Don't say that... you're gonna make Farzo go on a MaceQuest

[Farzo]

my dick is bigger than rag as a whole, plz nig

kids like 4'7" and weighs 45 kgs

<3

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

You guarded KC with 140 people :o

Turned out zerging wasn't super viable for you there

O well

I will set the record straight on this one cause u keep repeating that in many threads like you really believe it is accurate and not spin

I tried to coin the term Nirgon Numbers but it didnt catch on

Maybe u felt the threatened like there were 140 BiS 60s, but if anything that one fight where all non-Empire guilds came together in KC was like 88 Empire to 120 Other(approximative)

Now these numbers dont tell the story, since

a) Id estimate at lest 50 players of the "Resistance" were not in range to 60, the Curse alone was there with 20 People and with only 2 (Akinn and Lowi) in range to 60... let alone all the Freshies with their 1 character at 55, non-epic no-fungi and stuff
b) and it was a huge desynch anyway

Empire got VS and I give u that u won it in that sense but dont make it seem like it was an uphill battle

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

Red99 Environment not that complex to overview

Gods Work had not returned back then

So it was Azrael Old (Lite&Gang), Azrael New (Salem&Crew), Fresh, Curse and Prophets

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

Server pop only rose cuz exp bonus
Pop declining no server competition
Enjoy your dead server c u on discord

[Farzo]

I will set the record straight on this one cause u keep repeating that in many threads like you really believe it is accurate and not spin

I tried to coin the term Nirgon Numbers but it didnt catch on

Maybe u felt the threatened like there were 140 BiS 60s, but if anything that one fight where all non-Empire guilds came together in KC was like 88 Empire to 120 Other(approximative)

Now these numbers dont tell the story, since

a) Id estimate at lest 50 players of the "Resistance" were not in range to 60, the Curse alone was there with 20 People and with only 2 (Akinn and Lowi) in range to 60... let alone all the Freshies with their 1 character at 55, non-epic no-fungi and stuff
b) and it was a huge desynch anyway

Empire got VS and I give u that u won it in that sense but dont make it seem like it was an uphill battle


so out the 150 that showed up, 50 were outta range making it 100v80...got it thnx for clarify.

also those oor heals/rezes/buffs/drags/spying etc didnt help.

plz u guys got panned hard, dont try and rationalize it.

[iruinedyourday]

I don't play ive been overdosing in sex lately no time for video games

This post brings back the cringe to red99 yikes

[grannock]

I don't play ive been overdosing in sex lately no time for video games

Ya? Grats bro, why so mad then?

[Farzo]

Ya? Grats bro, why so mad then?

sexual frustration doesnt stop with just having sex, u gotta beat that 2-3 min mark 2 keep em happy.

[Flexin]

I don't play ive been overdosing in sex lately no time for video games

Congrats on finding a girl that can stomach dating a Frankie Muniz carbon copy.

[Drakaris]

I don't play ive been overdosing in sex lately no time for video games

Pics or it didn't happen!

[Farzo]

Congrats on finding a girl that can stomach dating a Frankie Muniz carbon copy.

http://www.ecanadanow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/460258-c225421c-56fb-11e3-ba26-b7fc4856beca.jpg

[Snapple]

right?

remember good guys?

[Snapple]

I don't play ive been overdosing in sex lately no time for video games

Did you find her on the same website that sektor got his from?

[Ragnaros]

Sorry females generally regard me as attractive in real life, I don't use the internet for in real life social interactions (:

[Snapple]

Sorry females generally regard me as attractive in real life, I don't use the internet for in real life social interactions (:

Post your picture so the forum can decide if this statement is true or not?


**Also need a picture of your GF with "AMES $$" written in marker on her forehead to confirm existence of said girlfriend.

[billyretruns]

Sorry females generally regard me as attractive in real life, I don't use the internet for in real life social interactions (:



I came here to warn you dude..

Sorry you not see my post...

Your relationship is gonna be over...

[Trustworthy]

I hope not!!

[Star]

Box healthy as ever. Population nearing 400.

[MasterCaster]

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Tassador]

these type of threads are because lite lost never could get it together and now he wants eq his way. Sorry pal enjoy morrowwind or whatever it is

[George_Costanza]

Far, far behind it. See: poll options ITT.

[Uton]

The best and longest lasting rivalry in red 99 history was that of Nihilim V Azrael.

and both evaporated