its just not so serious

[DRAGONBAIT]

what i mean is, server is doing good, aside from aimchat conspiracys and the eventual rant of this servers history (wich is fucked up ), we are going good now that velious is up, lots of content up for guilds to progress etc.

Imo theres one thing we should change, wich is /ooc and yellow texts. Its so lame, its like we have the perfect mechanics there so people can go mad at pvp deaths and let all the server know about it, people act different between each others than when 150+ people is watching ( egos ). If we removed /ooc and just kept a group and trade channel where only LFGs and WTB/WTS were allowed, and then remove the yt so people can die all around without noone knowing but the one who killed em I BET WE WOULD HAVE A HEALTHIER PVP ENVIRONMENT, really, lets have fun instead of trying to get bigger egos thru a pc game .

PD: im a good pvper and im positive on those leaderboards without griefin etc, is not like im 1 50 or smth. It just feels odd, to see my own friends caring about yts on pvp etc, not about the fun.

What do you guys think? imo we should discuss it, really. Devs take a look plz.

[Gwynraven]

I play red99 for the YT and OOC , rest is shit

[hurt]

I agree that there probably would be lots more pvp if global notifications were removed. I'm not sure it would be truly welcomed by the communit, though.

I'm fairly neutral on the idea. Not sure i really care either way.

[Stasis01]

Anyone who would accomplish convincing GM's to do this would really fuck <Friends> up the ass.

I don't have the energy or care level atm personally.

[Stasis01]

Most shit talk on live was done on TZT, I remember in game being very chill.

And guilds were set up more like Empire TMO both are on good terms and just do their own thing basically, TMO doesn't really try to oppose Empire maybe someday.

Rogean also made a post about all new players being griefed off so he already probably feels this way, and if you look at the leaderboard it's all TMO/Thunderdome/PDM/guildless who get shit on all day.

[Gaunja]

Anyone who would accomplish convincing GM's to do this would really fuck <Friends> up the ass.

I don't have the energy or care level atm personally.

Elaborate why it would fuck <Friends>. Just curious .

[xbo]

Elaborate why it would fuck <Friends>. Just curious .

Because they sit in PoM at the tree for hours a day waiting on people to die so they can try to pick up a naked kill. Really embarrassing for the guild. But friends is dead anyway.

[Gaunja]

Isn't tree in WL for POG and the entrance for POM is in TOV?

[Barkingturtle]

Would definitely be easier to acquire and keep cool and normal people without global ooc being shitted up all the time by the same couple of people. It's not the taunting after YT that makes it bad, it's the spam. What's with you dumb little fucks spamming stupid song lyrics and linking your pixels constantly? It's some of the most pathetic, attention-starved shit I've ever seen. Why not just mace someone irl if you want so badly to be noticed?

[Ella`Ella]

Elaborate why it would fuck <Friends>. Just curious .

Gaunja, if you join friends - Chest wins. Don't let Chest win.

[Gaunja]

I am part of Thunderdome right now. Fuck Chest and fuck BDA. <3 Ella and TMO

[Ella`Ella]

I am part of Thunderdome right now. Fuck Chest and fuck BDA. <3 Ella and TMO

Pras it!

[surron]

if you cant handle yt and occasional /ooc spam then go back to blue.


if you took YT away people would still spam about their kill in /ooc.

if you took global /ooc away then the server would die.

[Rallos]

agree with OP, Yt is really fun for rubbing it in and showing the whole server, but ever since it's been implemented PvP has gotten too sensitive

it makes people play extremely scary where they will avoid the fight or plug at really high HP

it makes people much more willing to backstab or to seek kills against exp groups of lesser geared players where it's almost guarenteed to get an npc assisted kill

over all YT is a cool idea, but the shame/fame aspect of it has made the server more ego driven with lots of rants and flames versus the BEFORE YT era of pvp to have fun pvp and screenshot driven marketing campaigns (which is a much funner and friendlier RnF)

[beta]

if you cant handle yt and occasional /ooc spam then go back to blue.


if you took YT away people would still spam about their kill in /ooc.

if you took global /ooc away then the server would die.

Yup

[vouss]

I play for nothing else then YT. If you took it away I would leave the server.

[Malevz]

A lot of well balanced, mentally stable people play on Red99.

[Telron]

Yt is ok. Global ooc is ok. Global unmoderated Ooc is sick. They did take away global ooc for like a day and people lost there minds.

I for one think you can find groups and trade just fine without it. Hell we did it on live... might force people to go out in thr world and get immersed. Also the value of a friends list would go up.

Or we can all cry about this very unclassic thing called global ooc.

Bootzey

[DRAGONBAIT]

if you cant handle yt and occasional /ooc spam then go back to blue.


if you took YT away people would still spam about their kill in /ooc.

if you took global /ooc away then the server would die.



you will see my name YTeing much more than dieing. Come too oot if u wanna check it out and dont tell me to go back to blue ever again

now that i notice ur names, weve met already. gates/zone/plugs from both of u 2 days ago. dont ever tell me to go back to blue asdjbasdjkabsas rofl

[Swish]

pre-YT it was always funny seeing "Soandso down and coined", then the bullshit afterwards... did he really die? Is someone lying on the internet?

[surron]

you will see my name YTeing much more than dieing. Come too oot if u wanna check it out and dont tell me to go back to blue ever again

now that i notice ur names, weve met already. gates/zone/plugs from both of u 2 days ago. dont ever tell me to go back to blue asdjbasdjkabsas rofl

what names? i only have 1 name bra and I'd whoop that ass in my scarab bp just like all other 30+ kills i have at lvl 58

whats ur char name or you just a fq troll


OP complains about YT and then references it as his defense. lol

[Tune]

it was bad before yt and yt made it even worse

people just run around taking 0 chances. that's hardly pvp how is that even fun

I cant even risk my life for a little fun bc I am afraid of the shit talk afterwards

[DRAGONBAIT]

what names? i only have 1 name bra and I'd whoop that ass in my scarab bp just like all other 30+ kills i have at lvl 58

whats ur char name or you just a fq troll


OP complains about YT and then references it as his defense. lol

its rockandtroll pal. more red than ur blood hehe. dont ever tell me to go back to blue ! i talked to kojo also.

i reference them cos its not the same if im here 1 - 50 on the leaderboards asking for them to be put down. im saying im all good yteing people on my shaman. i love the pvp fun, not the feel of awesomeness when i win, cos i die also. IM NUTS. still waiting for u to fight geom but plz stay on topic this is serious, ma thinks would make the server a better place.

[deadlycupcakez]

its rockandtroll pal.

go back to blue

[DRAGONBAIT]

it was bad before yt and yt made it even worse

people just run around taking 0 chances. that's hardly pvp how is that even fun

I cant even risk my life for a little fun bc I am afraid of the shit talk afterwards

thats it.

each time i find someone who would fight i just go all in and if i die its ok, cos theres so many little pvp u cant say no a fight. very few people fight back tho, its only people unaware who dont have a clue of pvp or people who will only get a jump spam 3 buttons and gate off. its damn hard to find a fight, its hard to improve this way really

i bet the poster above me is one of those

[LostCause]

well when red99 first came out there was no yt or leaderboard.


just FQ full of screenshots of killshots which kinda made FQ alot better too lol

[Samsung]

it was bad before yt and yt made it even worse

people just run around taking 0 chances. that's hardly pvp how is that even fun

I cant even risk my life for a little fun bc I am afraid of the shit talk afterwards

you killed level 52's and griefed them on your 60 bis bard, your input on pvp doesn't count.

[Kergan]

Yeah why would anyone care about the input of a BoTB champion with more kills than anyone else in server history, with probably a top 5 /played.

god ur dum

[grannock]

People who put any stock it YT are idiots. Avoiding YT is an entire different game than pvp. There are so many ways to snake out of a yt it is silly.

I dont think you should remove it, but hopefully the discord server will attract the hardcore yt purists and they can all avoid each other for days at a time.

[Skillslam]

yeah that's exactly what this server needs, to be turned into a tumblresque hugbox of safe space. feminist jazzhands faggotry

[grannock]

There is so much pvp every day that doesnt involve friends at all. All of these fights are fun, with no shit talk, no spaming ooc, no asshole forum posts. All friends does for this server is dampen the mood and make pvp less fun by critisizing every death anyone has ever taken. If fucktards like this were off the box you would see alot more pvp, alot more blue converts and an overall much better atmosphere on thr box.


Or if you think 5 alt shamans and druids spending 5 hours a nite camping bindpoints praying for colgate to eat a pve death so they can get a nakkid kill on him and shit up ooc for the next five years is good for server health, you must be one of those 5 idiots.

[vouss]

Smiling hard as hell right now

[B4EQWASCOOL]

There is so much pvp every day that doesnt involve friends at all. All of these fights are fun, with no shit talk, no spaming ooc, no asshole forum posts. All friends does for this server is dampen the mood and make pvp less fun by critisizing every death anyone has ever taken. If fucktards like this were off the box you would see alot more pvp, alot more blue converts and an overall much better atmosphere on thr box.


Or if you think 5 alt shamans and druids spending 5 hours a nite camping bindpoints praying for colgate to eat a pve death so they can get a nakkid kill on him and shit up ooc for the next five years is good for server health, you must be one of those 5 idiots.

Translation: Wah!

[miraclegrow2]

yellow text is stupid and not classic, it exists because of people like andis who play eq for pvp, then join empire

ooc is fine, if its zone wide : )

[Damn]

There is so much pvp every day that doesnt involve friends at all. All of these fights are fun, with no shit talk, no spaming ooc, no asshole forum posts. All friends does for this server is dampen the mood and make pvp less fun by critisizing every death anyone has ever taken. If fucktards like this were off the box you would see alot more pvp, alot more blue converts and an overall much better atmosphere on thr box.


Or if you think 5 alt shamans and druids spending 5 hours a nite camping bindpoints praying for colgate to eat a pve death so they can get a nakkid kill on him and shit up ooc for the next five years is good for server health, you must be one of those 5 idiots.

its okay to feel mad bud

[ducktv]

well when red99 first came out there was no yt or leaderboard.


just FQ full of screenshots of killshots which kinda made FQ alot better too lol

I always loved screenshotquest, that's your only prof so you save them up for one big delicious forum post.

abolish yellow text and get rid of the leaderboard. voted yes.

There is so much pvp every day that doesnt involve friends at all. All of these fights are fun, with no shit talk, no spaming ooc, no asshole forum posts. All friends does for this server is dampen the mood and make pvp less fun by critisizing every death anyone has ever taken. If fucktards like this were off the box you would see alot more pvp, alot more blue converts and an overall much better atmosphere on thr box.


Or if you think 5 alt shamans and druids spending 5 hours a nite camping bindpoints praying for colgate to eat a pve death so they can get a nakkid kill on him and shit up ooc for the next five years is good for server health, you must be one of those 5 idiots.

lol never seen u in pvp what are u even saying rn

[Tradesonred]

Would definitely be easier to acquire and keep cool and normal people without global ooc being shitted up all the time by the same couple of people. It's not the taunting after YT that makes it bad, it's the spam. What's with you dumb little fucks spamming stupid song lyrics and linking your pixels constantly? It's some of the most pathetic, attention-starved shit I've ever seen. Why not just mace someone irl if you want so badly to be noticed?

Lots of stuff is bad on server because they cave in to stupid shit like that. Took forever to remove xp loss in pvp because 90% were for it because they thought it was either funny to grief people off the server or they could PVE in fear without any kind of challenge whatsoever. Not cracking down on the forums enough is part of that problem. Wouldnt wanna be seen like party poopers. Its already a poop party, if you want to attract a more positive crowd, stop listening to the core toxics. Also the clueless GMs who come up with "solutions" like muting OOC instead of going after the problematic players.

[Seltius]

All of these fights are fun, with no shit talk, no spaming ooc, no asshole forum posts.



I agree with this 100%. PVP can be fun even if you are on the losing end of it.(I consistently am but doesn't bother me I have never checked my leaderboard rating)

I very rarely worry about dying in PVP. I think only time it ever bothers me is if it inconviences a friend or someone else waiting on me or if its just really a really out of the way place.(would hate to die in PoM as a melee and not able to find a rez)

[Videri]

people just run around taking 0 chances. that's hardly pvp how is that even fun

I cant even risk my life for a little fun bc I am afraid of the shit talk afterwards

its hard to improve this way really

Yep. PvP should be about winning the mob or the zone, not about counting killshots and farming escape/heal items. I would rather fight to the death, win or lose, than be paranoid about taking a YT.

[HippoNipple]

Videri is in the only end game guild on the server with no intention of ever winning mobs or zones and counts their kill shots.

[Kergan]

Lots of stuff is bad on server because they cave in to stupid shit like that. Took forever to remove xp loss in pvp because 90% were for it because they thought it was either funny to grief people off the server or they could PVE in fear without any kind of challenge whatsoever. Not cracking down on the forums enough is part of that problem. Wouldnt wanna be seen like party poopers. Its already a poop party, if you want to attract a more positive crowd, stop listening to the core toxics. Also the clueless GMs who come up with "solutions" like muting OOC instead of going after the problematic players.

Reported for the following violations:
Bashing Staff
Butthurt Crying
Bringing up PVP XP loss for the 1 millionth time
Whining about forums for the 10 millionth time

nobody likes you go away forever

[Tradesonred]

Reported for the following violations:
Bashing Staff


Thats also a problem. That policy of criticizing staff not being allowed. If thats still in place, not keeping up. OOC muting was clearly clueless.

[AzzarTheGod]

Elaborate why it would fuck <Friends>. Just curious .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQa25-e7POg

:o

[AzzarTheGod]

agree with OP, Yt is really fun for rubbing it in and showing the whole server, but ever since it's been implemented PvP has gotten too sensitive

it makes people play extremely scary where they will avoid the fight or plug at really high HP



Colgate was one of the first guys to talk about the fear of death culture ruining PvP. And agreed 100%. Those who die get shit on by the entire server, sometimes even their own guild included, for participating.

Poor sportsmanship and a culture that worships KDR = anti-PvP

[Nirgon]

Keeps people from contesting and pushing timers too

[georgee]

bobby plugs frequently not sure if srs about taking chances

[DRAGONBAIT]

bobby plugs frequently not sure if srs about taking chances

not sure why u naming this person. i also plug in oot a lot, is what people do there. we plug off pvp

[Seltius]

Colgate was one of the first guys to talk about the fear of death culture ruining PvP. And agreed 100%. Those who die get shit on by the entire server, sometimes even their own guild included, for participating.

Poor sportsmanship and a culture that worships KDR = anti-PvP

Not always a lot of it is in attitude. If you accept it and take it gracefully then people respond in kind. Now if your arrogant or run your mouth constantly and make it fun for guildies to troll you then ooc is going to have that effect/response.

I do agree with that last part too many people put too much stock in the leaderboards and take too much joy in griefing others instead of enjoying an aspect of the game that makes it unique in the experience from servers like Blue or non pvp live servers back in the day.

[deadlycupcakez]

not sure why u naming this person. i also plug in oot a lot, is what people do there. we plug off pvp

how 2 plug in oot?

[surron]

without YT there is no risk and there is no reward (besides ~30p)

wtf kind of pvp is that...


even eq live has YT now

[miraclegrow2]

There is so much pvp every day that doesnt involve friends at all. All of these fights are fun, with no shit talk, no spaming ooc, no asshole forum posts. All friends does for this server is dampen the mood and make pvp less fun by critisizing every death anyone has ever taken. If fucktards like this were off the box you would see alot more pvp, alot more blue converts and an overall much better atmosphere on thr box.


Or if you think 5 alt shamans and druids spending 5 hours a nite camping bindpoints praying for colgate to eat a pve death so they can get a nakkid kill on him and shit up ooc for the next five years is good for server health, you must be one of those 5 idiots.

I literally have never seen you login unless a raid was scheduled, and i also never saw you leave a zoneline unless you were with other people and fully buffed.

You should probably never post again ever.

[DRAGONBAIT]

without YT there is no risk and there is no reward (besides ~30p)

wtf kind of pvp is that...


even eq live has YT now


eq is about itemization. pvp over camps/spawns and raid targets. thats pvp not sure what u trying to point out here

[Gustoo]

I am more of a classic oriented player, so I think YT and global OOC is bad for server health and should be removed asap. I basically agree with OP completely.

However, I do respect and admire many players who very much love OOC and yellow text.

Also if YT is removed, staff should implement an official PVP kill board so people can share in failures and triumphs.

[miraclegrow2]

There should never be a killboard, that's the whole idea

it deters pvp and encourages griefing.

This is everquest and all this crap is not classic

but who cares, nothing has been done since day 1 for server health.

[DRAGONBAIT]

how 2 plug in oot?


i hope this is sarcasm xd

[Bazia]

forums and server were so much better when it was just 80 or so assholes griefing each other and posting screenshots on the forums instead of the weird blue raid server it became

[Barladore]

You'd think <friends> was a serious threat to empire with the amount of posts about them lately. Why are people so concerned with the way this tight knit group of 8-12 adventurers play this game?

[DRAGONBAIT]

forums and server were so much better when it was just 80 or so assholes griefing each other and posting screenshots on the forums instead of the weird blue raid server it became



imo server and forums are much better now than 1 year and a half ago, when i started and played a couple months, forums where shit with nihilum thing and server the same without velious. We have a lot of influx of new players trying out red, posts everyday about it. server has never been this good so why not push for some lil changes that can make it even better?

[Smedy]

I literally have never seen you login unless a raid was scheduled, and i also never saw you leave a zoneline unless you were with other people and fully buffed.

You should probably never post again ever.

i saw grannock once, he dieded within 10 seconds of our encounter, this man don't know how to push buttons in the correct order , low t beta cuck detect

[LostCause]

thats what happens when you only log in for raids.