Discord server win conditions

[Technique]

This server is intended to only last for a month or two, after which point all characters will be deleted, and the highest level characters will earn a spot on a new Hall of Fame section of the website.So the winning strategy will be to level to cap during off hours in underpopulated zones and then log out until the server is closed.

How exciting.

By contrast, the classic Discord server (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=2841) rankings were based on kill points so there was actually a reason to continue playing for the lifetime of the server:
Points are based on the victims, not the killer. Players can only gain points from characters that are within 20 levels of them and higher level targets will earn more points. The point total is distributed evenly between each person in a group with any fraction of a point rounded up to a full point. Additionally, if your character is slain, half of your earned kill points are lost.Without this system or one approximating it in place, p99 Discord will be even more pointless than it already sounds.

[SamwiseRed]

I dont think anyone gives a shit about the hall of fame part. Most of us just want to play on a perma death server. I could be wrong and you do make a valid point if anyone is actually trying to "win." I just hope to survive and kill as much people as possible.

[B4EQWASCOOL]

If you are having fun while playing a video game, you are winning.

[Technique]

I dont think anyone gives a shit about the hall of fame part.Because it's a pitiful reward compared to these:

The victorious will be bestowed the following prizes:


A class-appropriate item will be named after each winning character in the upcoming EverQuest expansion, the Gates of Discord. As an example, a winning Ranger may have a magical bow named after their character, while a Wizard might have an enchanted staff given their name.
Each winning character will receive their named item shortly after the new EverQuest expansion, Gates of Discord, launches.
Winners will be allowed a one-time transfer of their character and all gear from the Discord server to another server of their choosing.
Winning characters will be awarded a unique title that distinguishes them from their fellow Norrathians.

[TheBiznessTZ]

If you are having fun while playing a video game, you are winning.

Dont you dare go start making sense

[hammbone]

I don't mind permadeath but +/- 20 lv range is silly as hell.

[lowner411]

How about some sort of ELO system used for chess, based not on the level of the character or the number of kills, but the time the character is played. At the end of the server, tally the number of hours played + the number of hours played by all the kills of this character * some modifier.

[Tassador]

I don't mind permadeath but +/- 20 lv range is silly as hell.

Your right it should be +- 50 so when I level my Druid to level 39 I can go around killing level 1's and screaming fuckyahhhh

[HippoNipple]

If you can just live with the fact that you aren't going to win this server and you are playing just to mess around you will have a better time.

The people that win are just going to be grinding for 2-3 weeks straight 12 hours a day.

[iruinedyourday]

http://i.imgur.com/UrqRjAd.gif?1

[Technique]

The people that win are just going to be grinding for 2-3 weeks straight 12 hours a day.With the conditions left as Rogean originally stated, that much is a certainty.

Rules promoting a race to level in secrecy while avoiding conflict only to quit the game until it's time to have your name inscribed in this "hall of fame" aren't in the spirit of a server like this.

If you can just live with the fact that you aren't going to win this server and you are playing just to mess around you will have a better time.http://i.bnet.com/blogs/life-coach.jpg

[iruinedyourday]

http://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/condoms.png

[TheBiznessTZ]

http://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/condoms.png

Nice meme

[compulsion]

The original Discord was won in the first few weeks by people who parked 16-24 and farmed fresh 5s. After that the population got so low it became impossible to catch up.

Racing to higher level seems like it has a better chance to give the server longevity, rather than rewarding someone who kills 200 level 5s while someone who has made it to 30+ just plays an empty game.

I'm curious if no rules and no CSR means that this Discord will be as open to obvious hacking as the original was. Players would appear on top of you out of nowhere, then if they lost, simply disappear at 10% health.

Original Discord also had a huge xp bonus, which I did not see detailed in the P99 Discord information, but that would mean the xp grind would not be bad at all.

Also, no /role or /anon like on the live Discord?

[SamwiseRed]

I dont think the discord xp bonus was as big as the one red has now. At least, it didnt feel that way. Besides hacking, I dont give a damn what people do. This gunna be so fun.

[Ragnaros]

It would motivate a lot more people to play if indeed there was a character transfer at the end for the winner + title
aw yiss make it happen rogean

[Sirban]

Perma dead on pve or pvp death?

[Swish]

Perma dead on pve or pvp death?

both?

[Technique]

- Any character that is slain for any reason what so ever will be reset and placed back into newbie status. Characters will not be restored or resurrected for ANY reason what so ever. Once you're dead, you're dead.

- Each account will only be allowed one character on this server. Any PvP death results in the killing player obtaining a number of points based on the levels of the characters involved. Players can only gain points from characters that are within 5 levels of them.

- You may loot all tradeable items from the corpse of the character you just killed, all other equipment is destroyed with the character.

- The server will make use of the Firiona Vie no drop rules (few things will be No-Drop)

- The server will have the old world (Antonica, Faydwer, Odus) plus the Legacy of Ykesha expansion , and will only allow characters to reach level 50 with no AA.

- The server will have a doubled experience modifier to facilitate faster paced gameplay.

- Players will not be able to turn on /anonymous or /roleplay to hide their current location.http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-5920.html

[Grimjaw]

^ that would rock!

[Technique]

The original Discord was won in the first few weeks by people who parked 16-24 and farmed fresh 5s. After that the population got so low it became impossible to catch up.

Racing to higher level seems like it has a better chance to give the server longevity, rather than rewarding someone who kills 200 level 5s while someone who has made it to 30+ just plays an empty game.I think a hybrid approach that tallied kill points and then used level as a multiplier when calculating final ranking would work well.

Also, the winners list (http://wayback.archive.org/web/20040124133107/http://eqlive.station.sony.com/community/dev_view.jsp?id=60368):Redwin the 24th level Halfling druid
Dang the 24th level Gnome magician
Awakened the 20th level High Elf wizard
Korpo the 24th level Gnome magician
Searyx the 37th level Dark Elf cleric
Trindamere the 18th level Dark Elf necromancer

[Gustoo]

If there is a secret high level guy, he will probably be tracked down and killed. You are going to need friends to stay alive in this massively multiplayer online role playing game. On discord more than any other server that is a fact.

At minimum you can roll in a good duo.

So where are the darkenbane guys? Do we have any people on P99 that played discord awesomely? I played but like usual I found out about it after a haitus and showed up a couple weeks in and it was basically done for. There were a few brave halflings defending the thicket by then but many had been slain.

Its a blast and I think anyone with any time should try to get a gang together and play.

[Gustoo]

The true winner of the server was Apostle a high elf cleric. Anyone know his whereabouts? He was not crowned king because of naming policy violation. Surname was Paul

One of those guys on the winner list came out of no where with a bunch of volunteer suicides to make the list and no one had heard of him at all.

Nice find with that wayback post.

[grannock]

I dont think anyone gives a shit about the hall of fame part. Most of us just want to play on a perma death server. I could be wrong and you do make a valid point if anyone is actually trying to "win." I just hope to survive and kill as much people as possible.

Are you kidding? A crew of wizards is going to level up to mid 30's at complete downtimes avoiding any pvp at all costs, and then camp portals and zonelines waiting to insta blow someone up so they can high five and stroke each others epeens.

So glad all the <friends> can go circle jerk each other because this is their exact desired playstyle.

My prediction, this box continues to thrive once the degenerate elitist scumbags all have their own playground, that will have a pop of 10 europeans 2 weeks after launch.

[Nirgon]

I see you have posted a classic and superior rule set

Let's see what fucks may be given

[grannock]

I think the idea of a permadeath mmo is amazing, however thats not what eq is or was even remotely designed for. Seems like people who think this is the best idea ever should find a game and a community of like minded players and developers, not try and force their playstyle into a game where it doesnt really fit.

[Ragnaros]

cant wait to win this server and have some fun while empire continues to raid mob #29434829

[Ragnaros]

im better geared then you and I literally never pve, people have voted me in as one of the best rogues on the server
who are u
mad

[Gardur]

I see you have posted a classic and superior rule set

Let's see what fucks may be given

Lol Nirgon The Grey back in good form.

Can't wait for the FQ from this server. Rag is going to give people cold sweats and Beastagor is going to be avoided at all costs. Season two has all been practice at not dieing for discord.

Gonna be goog.

[Buhbuh]

IF YOU AINT FIRST

YOU'RE LAST

thatphraseistrademarkedandnottobeusedoutsidetheper missionofrickybobby


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=17&v=tna3B5zqHdk

[Tomm Selleck]

Ya dunno... rag to be feared? With what jousting? BRB 105 single backstabs at lvl 50

Anyone can drive a caster and get kills in classic eq....except lamort

[Tomm Selleck]

I fear classes more than I fear people. Shit even earth pets are scary a.f.

[Efwan]

I fear classes more than I fear people. Shit even earth pets are scary a.f.

In discord this reigns true so much

[iruinedyourday]

I'm 100% positive I'm going to do great and feel great then I'm going to not pay attention for like 10 minuets and get 6 nukes to land on me at the same time and...

http://data.whicdn.com/images/59479496/large.gif

[TheBiznessTZ]

cant wait to win this server and have some fun while empire continues to raid mob #29434829

I will be playing under a random alias so i can kill rag

[Kergan]

Ya dunno... rag to be feared? With what jousting? BRB 105 single backstabs at lvl 50

Anyone can drive a caster and get kills in classic eq....except lamort

No rogue will ever make it close to 50.

[Tradesonred]

Original Discord also had a huge xp bonus, which I did not see detailed in the P99 Discord information, but that would mean the xp grind would not be bad at all.


Seems like a no brainer if interest is to be kept for more than a week. Or else its just gonna be another zerg fest with no pop thing. They should view this as path of exile tacked on EQ with full loot PVP mixed in.

[Tassador]

Ecoli the blue you posting on the wrong forum brah.

[Tradesonred]

Ecoli the blue you posting on the wrong forum brah.

How about a discord forum linked to in-game bans too? If you post a RnF in general your character gets deleted. If youre the first post to disrupt a good thread they pick a random 60 on red and perma delete the toon.

[Efwan]

How about a discord forum linked to in-game bans too? If you post a RnF in general your character gets deleted. If youre the first post to disrupt a good thread they pick a random 60 on red and perma delete the toon.

Huh?

[Swish]

That's what a discord server really needs... a shit load of rules :/

[Kergan]

How about a discord forum linked to in-game bans too? If you post a RnF in general your character gets deleted. If youre the first post to disrupt a good thread they pick a random 60 on red and perma delete the toon.

says the guy who has been forum banned multiple times

[Tradesonred]

Its a joke you numbskulls

[Tradesonred]

It was basically a commentary on how toxic the forums is and what kind of measures would be needed to stop people from shitting every thread because of their personal vendettas against someone. I do the occasionnal drive-by poke at people like tassador, Kergan, terp, staff decisions but nothing disruptive.

Youre literally unable to have a discussion in here without someone like Lulz jumping in calling someone fat or some inane 5th grade attempt at bullying.

I would actually go for an in-game char delete for RnFing in Discord general forums just to be entertained by all the tears it would generate, from all these fucking idiots who are unable to stop themselves from being assholes and contributed over the years to building the forums into the open air sewer that it is.

[Colgate]

oh god just stop posting

[Sear]

I didn't realize they were doing rules like that.

I have no interest in competing over who can level the fastest. Blue Hall of Fame not in my future.


I think a hybrid approach that tallied kill points and then used level as a multiplier when calculating final ranking would work well.

Also, the winners list:

Redwin the 24th level Halfling druid
Dang the 24th level Gnome magician
Awakened the 20th level High Elf wizard
Korpo the 24th level Gnome magician
Searyx the 37th level Dark Elf cleric
Trindamere the 18th level Dark Elf necromancer


I played the Cleric and teamed with Trin for the first week (mostly solo after that).

They did kill points. You'd get more if they were higher level, and I believe it was also based on how many points the victim had. I got at least 50% of my points from a few kills of people close to my level. Killing newbies gave you only a couple.

Experience rate was 3x. Using /who all to check zones was disabled. You could loot everything on someone's body including the bags.

The two gnomes and halfling were <Darkenbane> if anyone from RZ remembers them. They hacked pretty bad but it wasn't illegal so whatever.

I wasn't the highest level on the box at 37. There were two people who made it past 40 but did not get enough kills to win.

Sony never gave us our promised item rewards (cheapskates), but I did get "the Executioner" title and my character transferred free.

[Rick Sanchez]

So this is basically sword art online age of aincrad, I'm down for the ride.

[Kergan]

It was basically a commentary on how toxic the forums is and what kind of measures would be needed to stop people from shitting every thread because of their personal vendettas against someone. I do the occasionnal drive-by poke at people like tassador, Kergan, terp, staff decisions but nothing disruptive.

Youre literally unable to have a discussion in here without someone like Lulz jumping in calling someone fat or some inane 5th grade attempt at bullying.

I would actually go for an in-game char delete for RnFing in Discord general forums just to be entertained by all the tears it would generate, from all these fucking idiots who are unable to stop themselves from being assholes and contributed over the years to building the forums into the open air sewer that it is.

If they delete your character will you go away forever? Pretty sure 100% of people would be on board with that.

[Mudslinger]

How about some sort of ELO system used for chess, based not on the level of the character or the number of kills, but the time the character is played. At the end of the server, tally the number of hours played + the number of hours played by all the kills of this character * some modifier.

I am the KING OF AFK if the number of hours wins then there is no contest

Trusken Isafk < Mindset A Threat > (retired Zek )

[Kringe]

No rogue will ever make it close to 50.

I bet we could take a rogue to 50, but there is no point really.

[Kergan]

I bet we could take a rogue to 50, but there is no point really.

I'll honestly be surprised if anyone makes it to 50, depending on xp rates. If its the 3x xp rate like Discord on Live supposedly was then maybe. Also depends a lot on population of the server - if there are 18 people online at 3AM where people can sneak a bunch of uncontested xp'ing in that would go a long way towards getting into the top level bracket and minimizing your exposure.

Part of the issue on this server vs the live discord one is the win condition is entirely PVE. It'll be interesting to see if lets say the top 10 players in terms of level choose to focus on the burn to 50 or killing off the competition some time before it. I think part of the reason there were only a couple people who even made level 40 there was because a huge part of "winning" was based on PVP points which factored in your level vs the person you YT'd. In a sense, you were limiting your potential by having a significant level advantage over the majority of the server.

[heartbrand]

so this is going to be a ghost town of ppl hugging zone lines and leveling in graveyard hours? sounds kool

[Kergan]

I don't even think zonelines will be that safe with root landing most the time.

[HippoNipple]

A system that accounts for the deads level and kill/death spread is interesting. It promotes staying in the mid level range to max out your points while forcing you to avoid the higher levels to survive.

[Kergan]

Well, on live higher levels were worth more points but there was like a +/- 20 range for getting points at all. I'm not sure if killing a level 20 was the same amount of points if you were 25 or 35 if that makes sense. I think the intent was that there would be really no purpose in sprinting out past everyone - you'd just be sitting there waiting for them to catch up.

[Gustoo]

The point of being high level is that you can live. Pvp may not be worth points but high level basically means kill power. I think the lack of pvp points means people can't farn their friends in the end to boost points.

In the end pvp is going to happen because if you die and celebs you are severely effed. That is incentive enough. The points system isn't needed as pvp incentive and just encourages players to game the system.

Looking forward to the sirken twitch


What if server was only open 8hrs a day so it is full on war with no late night sneak leveling? Could be dumb but could be cool.

[Kergan]

If you make it to 50 why would you even log in again though? If you think people are going to give up on a 100% chance to tie for first you haven't been on R99 very long.

I think this server will be the vast majority of people trying their best to avoid PVP with the current ruleset. PVP will happen, just like PVP happens on R99.

And the point system didn't incentivize pvp, it made it the whole point of the server. The guy who won it on Live wasn't the highest level.

[Tradesonred]

If they delete your character will you go away forever? Pretty sure 100% of people would be on board with that.

If they implement it ill do it

I know for a 100% fact i can win that game over 95% of the people here who cant stop trolling or insulting. Colgate would not be able to make it past level 20. You wont see me calling people shitheads so much if the minute someone trolls/RnFs a constructive thread their discord character goes poof. There will be no need to call out people.

[krazyGlue]

If they implement it ill do it

I know for a 100% fact i can win that game over 95% of the people here who cant stop trolling or insulting. Colgate would not be able to make it past level 20. You wont see me calling people shitheads so much if the minute someone trolls/RnFs a constructive thread their discord character goes poof. There will be no need to call out people.

No1 likes you

[Tradesonred]

Yeah, it would be like taking bergers from a baby really

[tedsternator]

The two gnomes and halfling were <Darkenbane> if anyone from RZ remembers them. They hacked pretty bad but it wasn't illegal so whatever.

I wasn't the highest level on the box at 37. There were two people who made it past 40 but did not get enough kills to win.

Sony never gave us our promised item rewards (cheapskates), but I did get "the Executioner" title and my character transferred free.

My friend and I found one of the DB toons with this title on Rallos shortly after Discord went down. We ganked him, happened to find his bind, and camped him mercilessly until he ragequit. Never saw the guy again but everyone seemed to fucking hate him since all the DB guys were rampant cheaters.

We were pretty shocked that he didn't just poof on RZ but I guess he was trying to avoid a ban or something now that his character was "real".

[Kergan]

If they implement it ill do it

I know for a 100% fact i can win that game over 95% of the people here who cant stop trolling or insulting. Colgate would not be able to make it past level 20. You wont see me calling people shitheads so much if the minute someone trolls/RnFs a constructive thread their discord character goes poof. There will be no need to call out people.

guess how many forum bans i have received

[Tradesonred]

guess how many forum bans i have received

Not relevant to if you RnF in PVP chat or not and how easy it would be to keep a lid on that, especially with me keeping perfect composure as a regular poster.

Ill start now and let this thread get on with its topic

[rollin5k]

I think this is great "win" conditions.
Anyone stupid enough to care about winning will be nothing but a scared victim the higher they get!

[Kergan]

Any "win" condition on a pvp server that is entirely devoid of pvp is dum.

[Gustoo]

I didn't realize they were doing rules like that.

I have no interest in competing over who can level the fastest. Blue Hall of Fame not in my future.



I played the Cleric and teamed with Trin for the first week (mostly solo after that).

They did kill points. You'd get more if they were higher level, and I believe it was also based on how many points the victim had. I got at least 50% of my points from a few kills of people close to my level. Killing newbies gave you only a couple.

Experience rate was 3x. Using /who all to check zones was disabled. You could loot everything on someone's body including the bags.

The two gnomes and halfling were <Darkenbane> if anyone from RZ remembers them. They hacked pretty bad but it wasn't illegal so whatever.

I wasn't the highest level on the box at 37. There were two people who made it past 40 but did not get enough kills to win.

Sony never gave us our promised item rewards (cheapskates), but I did get "the Executioner" title and my character transferred free.

Highest level on box was apostle paul at 46 or 47 he had most points but disqualified because of name policy.

One person on the win list came out of no where with a bunch of sacrificed friends I don't remember which guy probably trindamete and never found out who he was.

Apostle is the champion of that server

[miraclegrow2]

Not relevant to if you RnF in PVP chat or not and how easy it would be to keep a lid on that, especially with me keeping perfect composure as a regular poster.

Ill start now and let this thread get on with its topic

when i think composure i think ecoli