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Amuck
09-02-2015, 12:42 PM
Lets get a list of rogues that are great. All melee classes in my opinion are way easier then a rogue a jousting backstab make rogue a more skilled class 1v1. Lets see what everyone has to say.

Coffee
09-02-2015, 12:46 PM
very little difference in any of the rogues

they all have 180 degree backstabs while facing back 2 back with 10 sec cooldown for 1k damage

Gardur
09-02-2015, 12:48 PM
Battles last night were only one round so maybe not the best indicator. Ragnaros most accurate but had predictable movements. rabid hardest to hit and didn't show his back much, Gream hit the hardest and was also predictable once I watched a bit, still tough to land bs on as he would feign attacks to get me to burn bs.

Vanquisher
09-02-2015, 12:48 PM
Deluxee
Ragnaros
Lite

gream is awful got pounded by me 3 times in 1v1's and im not that great at rogue joust

Coffee
09-02-2015, 12:52 PM
deluxee is probably the worst of those 3

there is no skill in applying poison and pressing backstab it only matters if the recipient has 5k hp or 1100 hp

Heebo
09-02-2015, 12:56 PM
Fandango

End of list.

HippoNipple
09-02-2015, 01:00 PM
deluxee is probably the worst of those 3

there is no skill in applying poison and pressing backstab it only matters if the recipient has 5k hp or 1100 hp

Don't forget clicking duelist

Gardur
09-02-2015, 01:05 PM
Idk man rogues are streaky. Sometimes you miss that double bs, sometimes you can duelist for 124. Hit boxes vary and a good jouster strafing makes people hard to hit.

Rogues deff take skill in these types of battles. No one had any epic duelist jousts but those are game changers for sure.

Snapple
09-02-2015, 01:15 PM
5 best rogues of all time?

Dylan
Dylan
Dylan
Dylan

and Dylan

He spits hot fire

Silent
09-02-2015, 01:30 PM
1k bs damage every time guaranteed? rogues don't work like that don't fool yourself. To get a backstab off on a moving target everytime is hard, To get multiple double say 200 or 300+ backstabs everytime is total RNG/str limit. Missed plenty of backstabs, landed plenty of backstabs for minimum damage. Yeah its great burst damage, one could say a wizard can do a guaranteed damage without having to chase, or position properly to BACK stab anyone. Also @ last night buffs FTL, shoulda had people stripped and self only.

jaybone
09-02-2015, 01:37 PM
Not gardur

Ragnaros
09-02-2015, 01:39 PM
I challenged Gream for his title and he declined.
Dont blame him.
Rogue is an RNG game, skill is determined by accuracy.

Malevz
09-02-2015, 01:40 PM
Banded armor and fine steel weapons for duels. Only way to really decide.

iruinedyourday
09-02-2015, 01:42 PM
Gassoline

Coffee
09-02-2015, 01:43 PM
or position properly to BACK stab anyone

lold when ur backstabbing from max distance shoulder 2 shoulder

backstab damage and range math has been broken for years

Ragnaros
09-02-2015, 01:45 PM
Banded armor and fine steel weapons for duels. Only way to really decide.

Disagree
# of rounds and backstabs landed is a better way to evaluate how efficient someone is
Think i had close to over 20 backstabs on Gardur, so many just miss.

jaybone
09-02-2015, 01:45 PM
I challenged Gream for his title and he declined.
Dont blame him.
Rogue is an RNG game, skill is determined by accuracy.

Don't challenge us when missfairy is on.

Gardur
09-02-2015, 01:50 PM
Not gardur

Colgate
09-02-2015, 01:52 PM
chuck and snufz

Malevz
09-02-2015, 02:43 PM
Don't challenge us when missfairy is on.

What happened last night on missfairy??

TheBiznessTZ
09-02-2015, 02:52 PM
Gream #1 BOTB Champ, Salt #2 BOTB Champ, Tyrionn #3 BOTB champ.

I agree with this list

Buhbuh
09-02-2015, 03:49 PM
ya id probly go chuck n snufzz

you can hit backstab through the front here

anyone from the east coast can actually follow behind people and be in range of backstab (basically like live if you had decent internet)

if your ms isn't 30, you have to be on top/ in front of someone/ predict their movements (like 56k modems on live).

SamwiseRed
09-02-2015, 03:52 PM
ya id probly go chuck n snufzz

you can hit backstab through the front here

anyone from the east coast can actually follow behind people and be in range of backstab (basically like live if you had decent internet)

if your ms isn't 30, you have to be on top/ in front of someone/ predict their movements (like 56k modems on live).

i saw (and recorded) rezyn own chuck 1v1 so not sure how accurate your picks are. I am sure chuck is good, he is a good player, but he def aint the best rogue wise. no idea who snuf is, thought he was a mage.

Ragnaros
09-02-2015, 03:55 PM
sam everyones friends are in their top 3

Gardur
09-02-2015, 03:55 PM
Snuff is gaping. Buhbuh is correct about latency on west coast. I have to be really deliberate about leading people and I only have like 120ms.

SamwiseRed
09-02-2015, 03:57 PM
i base my picks off of activity and threat
1. rag
2. salem
3. fandango

if they are in the same zone as you, there is a good chance you are gonna get backstabbed. list is un-biased and not based on friendship.

Gardur
09-02-2015, 04:01 PM
Of all the rogues I've fought (most of the active rogues on the box) is probly rank them

Chuck
Rag
Deluxee
Reebz
Gream
Whatever rogue lite happened to be playing
Salt
Rabid

Idk though been a while since I fought most of those guys.
I guess that makes me not even top ten.

Yikes

Tomm Selleck
09-02-2015, 04:05 PM
I had many 1v1s against lite back in the good ol kc pvp days. He wasn't that good...also rag is up there, but I mean when you spend 2 weeks straight on beta practicing jousting, you better be good at it

Oh and jupe was p goog. Always had a trusty backstabbing hit rate

Ragnaros
09-02-2015, 04:06 PM
I had many 1v1s against lite back in the good ol kc pvp days. He wasn't that good...also rag is up there, but I mean when you spend 2 weeks straight on beta practicing jousting, you better be good at it

Oh and jupe was p goog. Always had a trusty backstabbing hit rate

u slanderin?????????????

Gustoo
09-02-2015, 04:11 PM
Yeah...

I down at over 120mbs and up at over 40mbs and my load times are longer than they were on live when I had an 8mbs download DSL connection.

Hitting people is fairly challenging. Bad deal for west coast unfortunately.

Tomm Selleck
09-02-2015, 04:14 PM
u slanderin?????????????

How is it slander? All you did was duel people in nro for the majority of beta when the hitbox patch was inc. Anytime I'd log onto beta I'd see you and mornin slapping dicks

grannock
09-02-2015, 04:16 PM
Rogue duels are all rng unless one of them sucks and cant get off any backstabs.

Tomm Selleck
09-02-2015, 04:23 PM
Rogue duels are all rng unless one of them sucks and cant get off any backstabs.

All melee pvp is rng....procs, max hits, landing a hit, dodge/evade ect.

The only skill in melee 1v1 is landing your jousts/bs and being able to recognize/read someone's pattern

HippoNipple
09-02-2015, 04:29 PM
Rogue duels are all rng unless one of them sucks and cant get off any backstabs.

Backstabs are the hardest thing to land in this game when you compare it to everything else. Spells, harm touch, etc. There isn't another class that requires the same level of precision.

Beastagoog
09-02-2015, 04:44 PM
All I know is most rogues think their shit don't stink coz they play a high burst DPs class.

Gardur
09-02-2015, 04:58 PM
Most of the people that were DTF last night were rogues.

#roguelife
#gardurbakk

Ragnaros
09-02-2015, 05:01 PM
gardurbakk reminds me of quarterback

snufzaimoverlord
09-02-2015, 05:03 PM
Gyno.

ducktv
09-02-2015, 05:26 PM
rag is most dangerous
lite is most skilled
salem is better than you with less gear.
rabid is solid as a ganker
deluxee worked incredibly in teams
chuck and snufz good duo

everyone else is a non factor

Glissando
09-02-2015, 05:33 PM
rag is most dangerous
lite is most skilled
salem is better than you with less gear.
rabid is solid as a ganker
deluxee worked incredibly in teams
chuck and snufz good duo

everyone else is a non factor

Nobody waits at a zone line like reebz

jaybone
09-02-2015, 05:37 PM
rag is most dangerous
lite is most skilled
salem is better than you with less gear.
rabid is solid as a ganker
deluxee worked incredibly in teams
chuck and snufz good duo

everyone else is a non factor

My picks

Reebz
Nonfactor
Beta
Cuck

ducktv
09-02-2015, 05:37 PM
Nobody waits at a zone line like reebz

I have a sickness, I camped Stevieray for 3 and a half hours and subsequently griefed him off the box.

SteppinnRazor
09-02-2015, 10:43 PM
Ragnaros
Reebz

Havent really watched anyone else play enough to say more.

Susvain2
09-03-2015, 01:36 AM
its really hard to rank the rest, alot of the rogues like Gream and Rabid are in my guild and I don't fight them 1v1 at all. And I haven't ever seen enough Gaping to know where to put him exactly.

and that after that, whats the ranking, 1v1? Who gets most kills? Really got no idea how to rank em, so i'm just going to say who I think is the best rogues are imo

-Lite is the best for sure
-Chuck is maybe just as good, or better 1v1, but Lite takes more chances and gets more done
- Gaping/Reebz
- Rabid, Ragnaros

Susvain2
09-03-2015, 01:38 AM
just want to clarify that Lite is on his own level at the top, imo

Colgate
09-03-2015, 01:52 AM
lol

lite is a very mediocre melee

Susvain2
09-03-2015, 02:09 AM
from what i've seen in my travels, he's the best I fight outside Empire by far, and also getting kills by himself, out numbered etc

chuck maybe better, and I haven't seen gaping enough to know

Smedy
09-03-2015, 02:10 AM
i nominate a new contender, jewc a powerful rogue jouster

derpcake
09-03-2015, 02:12 AM
i'm pretty good at having fun so there is that

Susvain2
09-03-2015, 02:13 AM
lol

lite is a very mediocre melee

talking rogue, not melee

and if Lite is very mediocre, then 99% of the server sucks

Knuckle
09-03-2015, 02:22 AM
from a raw jousting standpoint ill stand toe to toe with the top 3 strip down to your skivvies and a ragebringer, ill show you the lawd.

Colgate
09-03-2015, 02:25 AM
lite is very good at having 10 different melees at his disposal and 2boxing to keep them raidbuffed

actually playing a melee? he's not very good

Smedy
09-03-2015, 02:25 AM
pretty sure he is the best enchanter tho

ducktv
09-03-2015, 02:52 AM
lite is very good at having 10 different melees at his disposal and 2boxing to keep them raidbuffed

actually playing a melee? he's not very good

lmao. you're downplaying someone who literally most of this server will admit is an incredibly skilled player, regardless of how they feel about him or not.

lite is an incredible rogue. melee in general can be argued but as far as rogues go? he's much better than any other rogue i've ever faced.

from a raw jousting standpoint ill stand toe to toe with the top 3 strip down to your skivvies and a ragebringer, ill show you the lawd.

i'm down

Colgate
09-03-2015, 02:55 AM
idk raped lite mercilessly on many occasions melee vs melee

rogue isn't very much different than any other melee

ducktv
09-03-2015, 03:01 AM
idk raped lite mercilessly on many occasions melee vs melee

rogue isn't very much different than any other melee

rogue is actually entirely different, being good at jousting is the most critical part to your success.

which is why literally anyone can dunk fandango, he's a terrible jouster but he ganks people without gear or skill.

Colgate
09-03-2015, 03:03 AM
played a rogue on LoZ for several years, where the lag was worse, hitbox was smaller, and you had to face your target to backstab

it's really not as hard/different as people make it out to be

playing a war/pal/sk well is the exact same thing

ducktv
09-03-2015, 03:13 AM
played a rogue on LoZ for several years, where the lag was worse, hitbox was smaller, and you had to face your target to backstab

it's really not as hard/different as people make it out to be

playing a war/pal/sk well is the exact same thing

lol, i've never seen you on a rogue here. you're an exceptional monk so you might be a good rogue but i wouldn't be worried if i saw you on one.

talking about how hitboxes were smaller and lag was worse on another box where you once played a rogue is literally meaningless here, you know that right?

Colgate
09-03-2015, 03:19 AM
it's weird how you think melee classes are vastly different from one another

Susvain2
09-03-2015, 03:20 AM
played a rogue on LoZ for several years, where the lag was worse, hitbox was smaller, and you had to face your target to backstab

it's really not as hard/different as people make it out to be

playing a war/pal/sk well is the exact same thing

jousting is one thing, but Lite is the only other rogue besides myself that i've seen PvP in Howling Stones. And he'd go in by himself, and get kills.

ducktv
09-03-2015, 03:25 AM
it's weird how you think melee classes are vastly different from one another

i mean i guess if you only play one class, it's all the exact same! :rolleyes:

fact is, lite is easily top 3 best rogues on this server. all melees have pretty different play styles. you happen to be good at one of them.

Colgate
09-03-2015, 03:27 AM
idk i guess i can see how someone new to eq pvp would think that melees are crAaAaaAAzy different

w/e

never been impressed by lite myself

Smedy
09-03-2015, 03:33 AM
saying lite is bad at pvp is just a confirm over rustlequest, the guy is obviously top 3 in raw skill for pvp on this server whether you like him or not

LoliPops
09-03-2015, 03:33 AM
https://archive.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1385/74/1385749474941.png

ducktv
09-03-2015, 03:38 AM
saying lite is bad at pvp is just a confirm over rustlequest, the guy is obviously top 3 in raw skill for pvp on this server whether you like him or not

LoliPops
09-03-2015, 03:43 AM
https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1386/02/1386025179929.jpg

Colgate
09-03-2015, 04:16 AM
yea i'm just not seeing it

georgie
09-03-2015, 04:23 AM
Denialquest:eek:

Colgate
09-03-2015, 04:35 AM
dickridequest

georgie
09-03-2015, 04:36 AM
No one's as good as colgate

Colgate
09-03-2015, 05:02 AM
correct

Susvain2
09-03-2015, 05:12 AM
im the best player on the server

Coffee
09-03-2015, 06:29 AM
Anyone in a series losing guild is automatically disqualified

A best of anything would be in the best zones getting the best rewards

Cringe thread full of male on male fanboying

Barladore
09-03-2015, 07:20 AM
lol retti rustled for no apparent reason

Smedy
09-03-2015, 07:32 AM
there's reasons

overweight
diabetus
wife bangs other dudes
trailer park life

pick any of the retti trivia above and apply them to yourself and feel the rustle

LostCause
09-03-2015, 07:35 AM
i heard mantel was best rogue till he was sold and named changed to croup.

LoliPops
09-03-2015, 07:50 AM
https://archive.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1385/74/1385749474941.png

Strange
09-03-2015, 08:07 AM
Worse rogues on the server

Imago,and Brysn.

huehue

Stasis01
09-03-2015, 08:32 AM
Lite is a top notch player but I gotta agree with Colgate and don't really think it's because of his jousting.

I've messed around with him around KC several times while Az and never really considered him above our better melees (Deluxee, Colgate, Salem etc etc)

He's good though don't get me wrong.

Bazia
09-03-2015, 08:45 AM
Ender whenever he was on various Gnome Rogues

not even close

Stasis01
09-03-2015, 08:50 AM
As for OP question.

Deluxee in Nek forest.

Colgate LOZ TD Beach.

Chuckslaw VZTZ3.0 Oasis.

Kringe on Wendolyn in CT.

Those are some times where I've felt outmatched and inferior melee vs melee so they get my vote.

Stasis01
09-03-2015, 08:55 AM
Ender whenever he was on various Gnome Rogues

not even close

Yea Ender was good, he never really was seen outside of raids but sticking in raid pvp top notch one of the best.

shokar
09-03-2015, 09:03 AM
i least want to fight erased

Ragnaros
09-03-2015, 09:16 AM
People play monks because they arent good enough to be rogues.

jaybone
09-03-2015, 09:37 AM
People play monks because they arent good enough to be rogues.

You're going back off the deep end pal.

Ragnaros
09-03-2015, 10:27 AM
You're going back off the deep end pal.

Hitting auto attack and having the best avoidance in game is harder then being squishy and having to properly time backstabs?
Lets be real

HippoNipple
09-03-2015, 10:28 AM
The obsession the Azrael lemmings have with Lite is a true sickness. Lite is top three egos on server for sure, and why not. Have 20 nerds following him around for several years praising him no matter how many times he screws things up.

SamwiseRed
09-03-2015, 10:30 AM
monk is the easiest melee to play on the box. not sure how you can compare monk to rogue lol. even if you miss half your jousts, it only takes 1 t staff proc to even the score.

jaybone
09-03-2015, 10:31 AM
The obsession the Azrael lemmings have with Lite is a true sickness. Lite is top three egos on server for sure, and why not. Have 20 nerds following him around for several years praising him no matter how many times he screws things up.

Most of those 20 people were his own boxes.

HippoNipple
09-03-2015, 10:43 AM
There might be a bigger variance in effectiveness with rogues vs monks but someone who is the best at playing any tank will be able to transfer their ability to other melee.

The worst monk won't be as noticeable as the worst rogue. That doesn't take away the fact that the best monk isn't missing jousts and gets more opportunities for that proc to happen. It just isn't as obvious as a rogue not landing one backstab during a fight because that is easy to account for.

snufzaimoverlord
09-03-2015, 11:01 AM
Lite played eq with 30 ms.

You get 99% of your kills as a rogue by zoning faster then the people you chase and getting a backstab in before they can move.

It ain't hard.

Strange
09-03-2015, 11:02 AM
monk is the easiest melee to play on the box. not sure how you can compare monk to rogue lol. even if you miss half your jousts, it only takes 1 t staff proc to even the score.

not all procs last a long time

Susvain2
09-03-2015, 11:11 AM
when I said Lites the best out of any the people I face, i mean that he takes chances like pvp'ing in howling stones. Not just about jousting, I fear him more than any other rogues outside Empire

i don't know if he's better than the best rogues in Empire, but he's the best the other sides got

Imago
09-03-2015, 02:09 PM
Every list presented is made more accurate by putting me at the bottom of the list. Who the fuck picks a half elf as a race?

West coast latency is a huge factor, but just like Rule #76 states: no excuses, play like a champion. So I own my role.

Which means if I ever get a YT on you, you should uninstall and gouge your eyes out.

ducktv
09-03-2015, 02:23 PM
Every list presented is made more accurate by putting me at the bottom of the list. Who the fuck picks a half elf as a race?

West coast latency is a huge factor, but just like Rule #76 states: no excuses, play like a champion. So I own my role.

Which means if I ever get a YT on you, you should uninstall and gouge your eyes out.

0/11 not worried.

Lite played eq with 30 ms.

You get 99% of your kills as a rogue by zoning faster then the people you chase and getting a backstab in before they can move.

It ain't hard.

which is why I will never consider you a good rogue on your own. you zone hop and you zone fast. I'm the slowest zoning rogue I'm pretty sure, still get kills. last time I fought you was in mass pvp and you ran around like a headless chicken and promptly got dirtnapped.

Colgate
09-03-2015, 02:26 PM
snufz lives on the west coast i'm p sure

yikes, lots of emotion in that post

Susvain2
09-03-2015, 02:32 PM
0/11 not worried.



which is why I will never consider you a good rogue on your own. you zone hop and you zone fast. I'm the slowest zoning rogue I'm pretty sure, still get kills. last time I fought you was in mass pvp and you ran around like a headless chicken and promptly got dirtnapped.

Good Guys outnumbered us 50v30

You were already winning the fight and we were down to 20 or so, you guys focused Gaping with 40+, he was dead no matter what and you used your disc just to try and get a last hit, way overkill.

you're an alright rogue, but you didnt beat Gaping 1v1 or anything

also, i dont think many of my kills are from zoning and waiting on someone to come through...people just plug..

iruinedyourday
09-03-2015, 02:34 PM
monk is the easiest melee to play on the box. not sure how you can compare monk to rogue lol. even if you miss half your jousts, it only takes 1 t staff proc to even the score.

Im not going to argue because Ive never played a rogue in pvp.. but jousting is hard for anyone, and a monk arguably has less opportunities for RNG to really change the pace of a fight for the better. So monks need to be more patient than a rogue does for longer periods of time, which may or may not make them more or less difficult for a particular player depending on their playstyle.

About that tstaff proc though, I disagree, if you go up against an endgame rogue with a Tstaff and are hoping for the proc and your weak ass hits for 30 to be the deciding factor for you.. you gonna have a bad time.

Tstaff is really best for 2vX fights than 1v1 though.

Ragnaros
09-03-2015, 02:39 PM
Im not going to argue because Ive never played a rogue in pvp.. but jousting is hard for anyone, and a monk arguably has less opportunities for RNG to really change the pace of a fight for the better. So monks need to be more patient than a rogue does for longer periods of time, which may or may not make them more or less difficult for a particular player depending on their playstyle.

About that tstaff proc though, I disagree, if you go up against an endgame rogue with a Tstaff and are hoping for the proc and your weak ass hits for 30 to be the deciding factor for you.. you gonna have a bad time.

Tstaff is really best for 2vX fights than 1v1 though.

you were literally 0-100 first season
shut the fuck up about pvp

iruinedyourday
09-03-2015, 02:40 PM
I play more characters than you know son I group with you like once a week

ducktv
09-03-2015, 02:41 PM
you're an alright rogue, but you didnt beat Gaping 1v1 or anything

I love beating Gaping GM sanctioned in an honor duel in Frontier Mountains. :cool:

Colgate
09-03-2015, 02:45 PM
i would use a facesmasher over a tstaff against a rogue 1v1

iruinedyourday
09-03-2015, 02:49 PM
See rag,

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-na1BEMwQtgI/VSOcg62nzmI/AAAAAAAALOg/BDbtQgU6zFI/s1600/keep-calm-and-i-m-always-right.png

Ragnaros
09-03-2015, 02:54 PM
no1 knows / cares who u r or what opinions u have

snufzaimoverlord
09-03-2015, 03:05 PM
0/11 not worried.



which is why I will never consider you a good rogue on your own. you zone hop and you zone fast. I'm the slowest zoning rogue I'm pretty sure, still get kills. last time I fought you was in mass pvp and you ran around like a headless chicken and promptly got dirtnapped.

One of my 3 deaths in a year with golem wands tash Malo poison and blind on me. Grats. Also I live on the west coast with 120+ ms and a shitty Canadian isp. You talk out of your ass the only people who zone slower then me are euros.

Gustoo
09-03-2015, 03:09 PM
Confirmed west coast zone speed is 56k era correct even with absurdly fast ISP's. I don't know snufz but yeah zone times nearing 1 minute are painful.

Malevz
09-03-2015, 03:09 PM
Praise west coast Canadians.

ducktv
09-03-2015, 03:32 PM
One of my 3 deaths in a year with golem wands tash Malo poison and blind on me. Grats. Also I live on the west coast with 120+ ms and a shitty Canadian isp. You talk out of your ass the only people who zone slower then me are euros.

I play in the Midwest on the rough equivalent of a hamster wheel. easy not to die when you're aurrounded by 30+ people any time you PvP. :rolleyes:

let's have a zone off. Warning: I might crash because I have a toilet computer.

LoliPops
09-03-2015, 03:35 PM
aka poor

Gardur
09-03-2015, 03:50 PM
i would use a facesmasher over a tstaff against a rogue 1v1

Confirmed. Saw him swap it in right before I plugged at 100%.

#pleblife

Snapple
09-03-2015, 03:57 PM
you were literally 0-100 first season
shut the fuck up about pvp

true dat

iruinedyourday
09-03-2015, 04:15 PM
u guys parroting syftx. noice.

Barladore
09-03-2015, 05:53 PM
Praise west coast Canadians.

maerilith
09-03-2015, 06:13 PM
No good rogues on R99, just RMT'd twinks who sold out to get dragon lewtz

Kraz
09-03-2015, 07:19 PM
Killing 60s at 53 in rags..... enough said. Best mostly retired rogue ;)

http://i.imgur.com/bNHhYRv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dXLUFWn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LLQRbVM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/w2QGS0E.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Y9PFRyJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/s6uLTEn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vpkuR4M.jpg

iruinedyourday
09-03-2015, 07:23 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Ufbr5ej.gif?noredirect

Huelath
09-04-2015, 12:08 AM
slathar
miguel
roberto





In that order

SamwiseRed
09-04-2015, 06:32 PM
https://31.media.tumblr.com/97f4afad679a6d9d0e08e54ca1909af0/tumblr_n946tem4HW1tfvfqfo1_500.gif

Swish
09-04-2015, 06:40 PM
Lets get a list of rogues that are great. All melee classes in my opinion are way easier then a rogue a jousting backstab make rogue a more skilled class 1v1. Lets see what everyone has to say.

I remember your blue rogue, we grouped in OT.

Ella`Ella
09-04-2015, 06:46 PM
I don't know if Rag or Gardur are among the best, but I always have fun when I run into 1v1 PvP with them.

jestingoff02
09-04-2015, 06:47 PM
lol

lite is a very mediocre melee

Lite is the best all round player on the box. Best rog?? Prob not but ranks. Rogs I know might kill my warrior. #1 chuckslaw #2 Salem #3 ragnaros

Troof
09-04-2015, 06:48 PM
Salem, think about it.

jestingoff02
09-04-2015, 06:48 PM
Forgot about Roberto he's scary too, also gongshow

Colgate
09-04-2015, 06:55 PM
Lite is the best all round player on the box

haha oh man

thanks for the laugh

jestingoff02
09-04-2015, 07:03 PM
Are you kidding? Your just talking shit now

ducktv
09-04-2015, 07:05 PM
haha oh man

thanks for the laugh

if you think you're the best all around player I'll giggle I promise.

snufzaimoverlord
09-04-2015, 07:08 PM
Best all around player is Crazycloud.

ducktv
09-04-2015, 07:16 PM
Best all around player is Crazycloud.

who is that.

jestingoff02
09-04-2015, 07:34 PM
Shit >< don't hate me because I'm beautiful

Colgate
09-04-2015, 07:35 PM
yea crazycloud probably best EQ player

Ragnaros
09-04-2015, 07:55 PM
no clue who that is

Colgate
09-04-2015, 08:08 PM
heard gaping gave you a brutal beatdown 2day rag

SamwiseRed
09-04-2015, 08:15 PM
lewis best eq player, never even heard of crazycloud

what a fgt name lol

jaybone
09-04-2015, 08:25 PM
http://blog.pure18.com/files/2010/02/naughty-nympho-2-510x340.jpg

Ragnaros
09-04-2015, 08:28 PM
heard gaping gave you a brutal beatdown 2day rag

naw we were both at 50% then dingus zoned in raptured him and pelled him twice with 4 slot dispel b4 rapture broke
guess im pretty good if I beat gaping with jboots and grim aura vs fully raid buffs + rune
9 backstabs vs 2
yiKes

Colgate
09-04-2015, 08:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/wwnJvnD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HVbfEgB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iDhc6am.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BIOAdzN.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IB0Fqvg.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/556PJfk.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/v8SxcWm.jpg

yikes

ducktv
09-04-2015, 08:33 PM
heard gaping gave you a brutal beatdown 2day rag

heard you didn't participate in any pvp at all 2day colgate

Ragnaros
09-04-2015, 08:33 PM
fully raid buffed vs grim aura and jboots
thx for backing me up

snufzaimoverlord
09-04-2015, 08:38 PM
Was 7 rounds, ain't my fault u brought a knife to a gun fight.

+ you were getting druid heals from Geom+ you were mega buffed in the last screenshot.

Don't matter tho they were fun fights and tbh no YT no care.

iruinedyourday
09-04-2015, 08:40 PM
so he has 3k more hp than u intead of 2k what diff does it make chortle

Ragnaros
09-04-2015, 08:42 PM
jboots and grim aura
I don't camp out after raids fully buffed and pvp once a week till they wear off
not my style

Colgate
09-04-2015, 08:43 PM
do buffs make you better at jousting?

ducktv
09-04-2015, 08:46 PM
do buffs make you better at jousting?

actually yeah when your stats are maxed and your hp is easily 1.2k above your opponent. ie, you hit harder and don't get hurt nearly as much as your opponent. u dum?

Ragnaros
09-04-2015, 08:46 PM
I landed more backstabs against gaping every fight
other player had buffs and got them pelled then plugged when he started losing
nothing 2 see here yowl

Colgate
09-04-2015, 08:50 PM
actually yeah when your stats are maxed and your hp is easily 1.2k above your opponent. ie, you hit harder and don't get hurt nearly as much as your opponent. u dum?

buffs make you better at jousting

intredasting

Ragnaros
09-04-2015, 08:52 PM
end game result:
ragnaros happily in his skyshrine home
gaping plugged cuz bad/sad/mad/no dad

ducktv
09-04-2015, 08:53 PM
buffs make you better at jousting

intredasting

your question would have been phrased better as "do buffs make you a better player?" that answer is no; your jousting however, will be substantially better when you're backstabbing non-duelist for 900 like gaping did to rag.

snufzaimoverlord
09-04-2015, 08:55 PM
I landed more backstabs against gaping every fight
other player had buffs and got them pelled then plugged when he started losing
nothing 2 see here yowl

? Dont make me get the logs out.

http://i.imgur.com/rd0RjEL.jpg

SamwiseRed
09-04-2015, 08:56 PM
http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-johnny-5-Short-Circuit-sandbox-719509.gif

Colgate
09-04-2015, 08:56 PM
4 backstab attempts to 1 in that screenshot

let's chalk it up to buffs tho

Ragnaros
09-04-2015, 08:56 PM
hehe log in to skyshrine
o wait no buffs no gaping
( ( ;

jaybone
09-04-2015, 09:00 PM
Love the brobb rmt talk there. Also I got like 2k more hp than you rag wtf.

Susvain2
09-04-2015, 09:33 PM
luv how everyone is acting like Rags is the best player in the world because he's not in Empire anymore.

dear Lord if I wans't in Empire yowl would be regarding me as a god and the best player to ever step foot on Norrath

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
09-04-2015, 09:37 PM
? Dont make me get the logs out.

http://i.imgur.com/rd0RjEL.jpg

Look how many backstab buttons there are!!!!!!

ducktv
09-04-2015, 09:44 PM
luv how everyone is acting like Rags is the best player in the world because he's not in Empire anymore.

dear Lord if I wans't in Empire yowl would be regarding me as a god and the best player to ever step foot on Norrath

app denied.

Coffee
09-04-2015, 10:09 PM
Geom = ragnaros. I'd have gms investigate these login machines.

Ragnaros
09-04-2015, 10:16 PM
l o l

hatelore
09-04-2015, 11:01 PM
yikes, errr buddy shitting on rags head today.

iruinedyourday
09-04-2015, 11:21 PM
hey the purse snatcher.

as far as RP pvp goes, hatelore is in the top percentile IMO.

abbud
09-05-2015, 03:34 AM
I am a little bit rustled by this thread.

Susvain2
09-05-2015, 03:47 AM
what class do u play

derpcake
09-05-2015, 04:29 AM
if i had an aon i would assign it to at least 4 hotbuttons

backstab needs 2 full bars of hotkeys

til

SteppinnRazor
09-05-2015, 05:12 AM
forgot to add Roberto to my list

grannock
09-05-2015, 05:19 AM
hehe log in to skyshrine
o wait no buffs no gaping
( ( ;

Oh boy.

Why did he land 5 backstabs on you and you landed one? Low T.


Srsly rag you try so hard, suck so bad, im afraid when i send you links of my primal you might actually kill yourself.

Beastagoog
09-05-2015, 06:10 AM
? Dont make me get the logs out.

http://i.imgur.com/rd0RjEL.jpg

Lol.

derpcake
09-05-2015, 06:59 AM
people boxing is a great way to keep pop down

fuck that shit

jaybone
09-05-2015, 07:10 AM
You guys sound like retards

derpcake
09-05-2015, 07:13 AM
everybody just trying to fit in on the interweb

Gardur
09-05-2015, 11:38 AM
Lol Geom isn't a box you retards.

Cecily
09-05-2015, 12:01 PM
Didn't read thread, but Fandango is one of the best rogues on the server. Top 3 at least.

lite
09-07-2015, 08:44 AM
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

lite
09-07-2015, 09:00 AM
how has noone mentioned eddard

Sektor
09-07-2015, 09:02 AM
Killing 60s at 53 in rags..... enough said. Best mostly retired rogue ;)

http://i.imgur.com/bNHhYRv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dXLUFWn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LLQRbVM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/w2QGS0E.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Y9PFRyJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/s6uLTEn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vpkuR4M.jpg

Fuck Civik I fucking miss all of you guy's. Force was a great guild with great people in it, I wont forget those days. :(

Nocsucow
09-07-2015, 09:25 AM
lol

lite is a very mediocre melee Vantage Azrael Colgate Holocaust Plane of Hate 3.62 April 06 2015 1:05:12 PM


Yikes

lite
09-07-2015, 09:49 AM
Vantage Azrael Colgate Holocaust Plane of Hate 3.62 April 06 2015 1:05:12 PM


Yikes

funny as that kill was, and the fact that it was caught on video. It doesn't mean much. Being the last one present to get the YT is mostly luck oriented. I had Dacuk HT him, which took him down to 0% and i just finished the job lol.

Nocsucow
09-07-2015, 09:54 AM
funny as that kill was, and the fact that it was caught on video. It doesn't mean much. Being the last one present to get the YT is mostly luck oriented. I had Dacuk HT him, which took him down to 0% and i just finished the job lol.
Kill is a kill baby!!! Miss ya pal

Doors
09-07-2015, 09:54 AM
Cool pvp kill lite hows your guild doing.

lite
09-07-2015, 11:18 AM
hey man, noone mentioned you. wtf, i am probably as surprised as you.

Tassador
09-07-2015, 11:19 AM
Lite great pvp'er terrible leader. /thread

lite
09-07-2015, 11:22 AM
Lite great pvp'er terrible leader. /thread

In a server where leading = how much dead weight are you willing to tolerate for bragging rights?

I can get behind that.

Nocsucow
09-07-2015, 11:55 AM
In a server where leading = how much dead weight are you willing to tolerate for bragging rights?

I can get behind that.

Keeping it 100 right here

SamwiseRed
09-07-2015, 01:09 PM
being a guild leader on here is more like being a baby sitter. it also requires you not have a life.

Tassador
09-07-2015, 01:46 PM
Actually being a good leader is learning organizations and who is capable of doing what and not everyone is cut out for that. You see it as baby sitting and thats why you will never lead.

SamwiseRed
09-07-2015, 02:17 PM
youve clearly never led or done anything on here. i dont even know who you are in game. just another clueless nerd. if i didnt love starcraft so much, i would assume you were just another fire giant. fact, noone with a job and a real life has led a successful guild here.

Tassador
09-07-2015, 02:24 PM
was that an insult? i dont qq about my rl on the boards so yeah you dont know me lol

SamwiseRed
09-07-2015, 02:28 PM
da fuck does that have to do with what i said? drugs?

Tassador
09-07-2015, 02:34 PM
drug free pretty drunk right now tho

iruinedyourday
09-07-2015, 03:42 PM
Raid leading in EQ:

http://www.wordsinspace.net/digital-archives/2014-spring/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/cat-herding.jpg https://imgflip.com/readImage?iid=32585115 http://theemarketingblog.blogs.lamp.elliance.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/01/herding-cats.jpg

Raid leading in <Empire>:

http://www.chinatoday.com/arm/military_training/push-up_training_pictures/pla_training_03.jpg http://smartfonearena.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/chinese-army.jpg http://news.asiaone.com/sites/default/files/styles/full_left_image-630x411/public/original_images/Aug2014/20140804_military_chinadaily.jpg

Pvp in <Empire>:

http://i.imgur.com/o1silMP.jpg?1

lite
09-07-2015, 07:06 PM
free bump

Ragnaros
09-07-2015, 08:27 PM
lite
ragnaros
ender
deluxee
reebz
in no particular order

iruinedyourday
09-07-2015, 08:29 PM
this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krDxhnaKD7Q

lite
09-07-2015, 10:20 PM
lite
ragnaros
ender
deluxee
reebz
in no particular order



Lite - Methodology/Execution
ragnaros - Agression
deluxee - Precision
reebz - bat shit craziness in your ass
ender - good macros/plug ins

LoliPops
09-07-2015, 10:27 PM
cringe

Tassador
09-07-2015, 10:31 PM
I ain't got no type...
Cups full of ice and we do this every night.

Ragnaros
09-07-2015, 10:43 PM
ender was the best @ raid pvp imo

Colgate
09-07-2015, 10:47 PM
ender also never impressed me

deluxee was probably the best at raid pvp

lite
09-07-2015, 10:52 PM
ender also never impressed me

deluxee was probably the best at raid pvp

The time when you tried to suicide yourself in the VP lava and he dove in and YT'd you w/ practically 0 vision.

The kid's an animal.

Deluxee / Darkside duo deadliest team ever.

Colgate
09-07-2015, 10:53 PM
yea that was good

lite
09-07-2015, 10:54 PM
he said he watched you dive ... closed his eyes and went for it. I don't doubt that's how it went.

Ragnaros
09-07-2015, 11:22 PM
he said he watched you dive ... closed his eyes and went for it. I don't doubt that's how it went.

I feel like me and you could read each others minds across the country with double duelists

lite
09-07-2015, 11:29 PM
the bond is real

the time we popped Gongshow like a zit was pretty magical

Buhbuh
09-08-2015, 12:00 AM
motel rooms can't be this expensive

i mean i realize the forums are free but if you had any friendship at all you would put the D's in eachother's A's irl

cdasilva7
09-08-2015, 12:17 AM
motel rooms can't be this expensive

i mean i realize the forums are free but if you had any friendship at all you would put the D's in eachother's A's irl


I guess you've come a long way since your days of having to sell your toons to pay the rent. You baller, you.

lite
09-08-2015, 06:02 AM
Bump before work

WELP... back to killin it IRL

Amuck
09-08-2015, 12:40 PM
barcode / twerk best duo. they put in work.

Coffee
09-08-2015, 12:41 PM
Never seen either of them stay in a fight after losing rune

lite
09-08-2015, 12:45 PM
barcode / twerk best duo. they put in work.

Caster duo for sure. Great synergy between those 2, they know their timers super well. Clockwork like.


Duoing with Deluxee was some of the most fun I've ever had. We'd lure teams of people to the back of KC and just demolish them.

most fun eq had to offer

jaybone
09-08-2015, 12:47 PM
Seriously how can you text while driving a lawn mower

Susvain2
09-08-2015, 12:49 PM
the best duo partners...hmmmmmmm

all that comes to mind are

myself + rabid
myslef + Dotchya (rags)

lite
09-08-2015, 12:51 PM
Seriously how can you text while driving a lawn mower

http://puu.sh/k4kTj/9657fa8875.jpg

aww dawwg, that office view.

welp, got bathrooms to clean.

B4EQWASCOOL
09-08-2015, 01:00 PM
I guess you've come a long way since your days of having to sell your toons to pay the rent. You baller, you.

Yixe!

Coffee
09-08-2015, 01:01 PM
Kc pvp was the most fun eq had 2 offer..yikes

LoliPops
09-08-2015, 01:04 PM
http://puu.sh/k4kTj/9657fa8875.jpg

aww dawwg, that office view.

welp, got bathrooms to clean.

You fucked up. Gonna wait outside your building until I see you exit.

See you real soon kid.

B4EQWASCOOL
09-08-2015, 01:06 PM
You fucked up. Gonna wait outside your building until I see you exit.

See you real soon kid.

Come wait outside my building, fat boy. Would be a lulzy day.

LoliPops
09-08-2015, 01:08 PM
Gonna eat me to death obese beta?

B4EQWASCOOL
09-08-2015, 01:10 PM
Gonna eat me to death obese beta?

I don't eat things with such high fat content. Sorry, fat boy.

LoliPops
09-08-2015, 01:12 PM
Spoken like a true anon beta.

http://i.imgur.com/YjJiwuY.jpg

magician
09-08-2015, 01:18 PM
lite bout to get doxd? yikes. never mix work with elf quest. oh boy here we go

LoliPops
09-08-2015, 01:34 PM
[Redacted] Networks, Inc

YikeS

lite
09-08-2015, 01:35 PM
You fucked up. Gonna wait outside your building until I see you exit.

See you real soon kid.

cool, i will let you get me a beer.

LoliPops
09-08-2015, 01:44 PM
are you asking me out on a date tee hee

http://img03.deviantart.net/5c26/i/2007/150/a/4/midevil_flail_by_the_pwnisher.jpg

lite
09-08-2015, 01:47 PM
that's wrong, lmao

LoliPops
09-08-2015, 01:50 PM
can't wait to show you my collection

B4EQWASCOOL
09-08-2015, 02:00 PM
Loli, serious question: When you run, which is obviously never, do your man tits hit you on your bald head?

Eslade
09-08-2015, 02:05 PM
this thread, so good.

LoliPops
09-08-2015, 02:15 PM
love the anon mad
much rustles

heartbrand
09-08-2015, 02:20 PM
Most fun PvP was in server release in places like unrest or oasis where people fought to the death with no clickies. Now it's just zone hugging against people who will flee as soon as they get pumiced.

LoliPops
09-08-2015, 02:23 PM
truth

FaithlessKR
09-09-2015, 03:20 AM
Of all the rogues I've fought (most of the active rogues on the box) is probly rank them

Chuck
Rag
Deluxee
Reebz
Gream
Whatever rogue lite happened to be playing
Salt
Rabid

Idk though been a while since I fought most of those guys.
I guess that makes me not even top ten.

Yikes

Makes me sad gardur :(

Of the rogues on that list I've only lost to chuck, gream, and deluxee. Never fought rabid, but I haven't lost to ragnaros in I think 6 pbe duels. Reebz and I split most of our fights, but alas west coast ping made me very inconsistent.

Had to constantly adjust to varying latency differences for every single person that I fought.

If I had to make a list I would probably say something like this, leaving myself out as well:

Chuck
Gaping
Deluxee (not for 1v1, but for his ability to do well in mass pvp)
Reebz
Salem
Ragnaros
Rabid
Gream
Fandango

Buhbuh
09-09-2015, 03:34 AM
so basically these lists are comprised of all the main rogues with high playtime that still play here

gotcha

nice analysis

FaithlessKR
09-09-2015, 03:40 AM
so basically these lists are comprised of all the main rogues with high playtime that still play here

gotcha

nice analysis

I have no clue who still plays :(

FaithlessKR
09-09-2015, 04:41 AM
lmao. you're downplaying someone who literally most of this server will admit is an incredibly skilled player, regardless of how they feel about him or not.

lite is an incredible rogue. melee in general can be argued but as far as rogues go? he's much better than any other rogue i've ever faced.



i'm down

Since Lite had to bump this in another thread :)

Dueled lite on a rogue 3 or 4 times on velious beta. He got me once with very little hp left, and the rest of the duels I won with more than 70% hp left. Obviously this was when I was going hard again, and he would probably wipe the floor with me right now.

Every time I try to return I have to spend 3 weeks relearning my shitty latency/hitbox.

ducktv
09-09-2015, 04:48 AM
Reebz and I split most of our fights, but alas west coast ping made me very inconsistent.


i miss our duels, salt. that was fun shit.

FaithlessKR
09-09-2015, 04:58 AM
Yeah, I don't miss throwing gigantic 50% hp leads and having the fights come down to the wire though haha :D

derpcake
09-09-2015, 08:13 AM
had most fun being chased by reebz and revy

Coffee
09-09-2015, 09:09 AM
Gream Salt Tyrion won botb 1-3

Lite played 4 characters in that tourney and didn't even place top 3

Hard prof

lite
09-09-2015, 09:41 AM
Feels good being the most decorated BoTB champion on the box, and having Empire folk cite me as the best ever on every other thread.
lax retti, u nerd. You played a pretty evasive cleric, be proud. This is coming from the High Priest himself.

Ragnaros
09-09-2015, 10:01 AM
Tune won 3 or 4 botb titles himself

lite
09-09-2015, 10:07 AM
You are bragging about being the best at Everquest pvp.....think about that for a second. That's like bragging about having the fastest wheelchair at the special Olympics.

You have no idea the lifestyle adaptations people go through in order to participate on this box.

Welcome to the biggest albino generator in existence. Divorces go down like it's nothing. Australians, Koreans, and Euros adopt EST as their home time zone EVERY fucking day just for the chance at a 20 HP increase every other month.

If being the best on this box is all I did in my life... I made it.

Ragnaros
09-09-2015, 10:11 AM
Tune Lite and Nizzar the fathers in the red99 hall of fame for sure

HippoNipple
09-09-2015, 10:11 AM
You have no idea the lifestyle adaptations people go through in order to participate on this box.

Welcome to the biggest albino generator in existence. Divorces go down like it's nothing. Australians, Koreans, and Euros adopt EST as their home time zone EVERY fucking day just for the chance at a 20 HP increase every other month.

If being the best on this box is all I did in my life... I made it.

http://i.imgur.com/JXXL0Dr.gif

LoliPops
09-09-2015, 10:29 AM
https://cdn1.lockerdome.com/uploads/91be685d6b7084dff29b448fa399921eae44957110463d0256 6ff54550c7b581_large

Nirgon
09-09-2015, 10:37 AM
Red cleric botb

Enchanter botb


Groce but

Dont hate the player, hate the game

Coffee
09-09-2015, 12:32 PM
Red cleric botb

Enchanter botb


Groce but

Dont hate the player, hate the game

Lol lite bragged about winning the botbs that had nothing to do with pvp

Kids a try hard that can't even accomplish that's the worst

Kergan
09-09-2015, 03:18 PM
Wonder what Lite would have done if both the enchanters he entered managed to make the finals?

pgerman
09-09-2015, 03:24 PM
Wonder what Lite would have done if both the enchanters he entered managed to make the finals?

wonder what kergan would do if he ever won any type of pvp encounter



ever

LoliPops
09-09-2015, 03:29 PM
http://www.worldwideinterweb.com/component/joomgallery/image.raw?view=image&type=img&id=10264

Stasis01
09-09-2015, 03:37 PM
Tune Lite and Nizzar the fathers in the red99 hall of fame for sure

Yeah he did a good job of being the only one to play against Nizzar consistently, while simultaneously alienating all others who wanted to help to keep his own greedy control of scraps.

Write it down in the history books he was the best vulture.

lite
09-09-2015, 03:44 PM
re read the whole thread for the 9th time.

http://puu.sh/k5Exn/adba7837ab.jpg

Susvain2
09-09-2015, 06:46 PM
hey lite

act like you been thereb efore ;)