Wrong reward for Disciple of Cazic Thule quest

[thulseh]

Atdehim Sqonci handed me ringmail sleeves when I did the turn-in for the Disciple of Cazic Thule quest.

[Uthgaard]

Items have gained the ability to be restricted by Deity. If a deity restriction is placed upon an item, it will show when you right-click-and-hold on the item. (http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000410.html)

There's no evidence of the existence of the deity symbols prior to this date, in any archive. Yeah, some of them are in. One of them was removed. It's not a big priority. The missing quests will likely be added after Kunark.

[thulseh]

Atdehim Sqonci says, 'Ahh! This shall greatly assist me in completing the ritual! Our Lord thanks you and gives you this gift to help you spread fear across this land.'

I shall spread fear far and wide with my l33t ringmail sleeves!

Seriously though, thanks for letting me know the scoop. On a related note, are the summoning of fear, terror, and fright quests currently working? They are giving me the text to do them and I would freak if I turned in those items with no reward.

[Uthgaard]

I saw scripts for terror and fright. Two out of three ain't bad?

[thulseh]

My mistake, it's dread, terror and fear. Fear gives you the Fright forged helm. If Dread's not in (the shield) that's not as big a deal since most CT clerics are after the mask and helm.

Kunark is more important than fun clickies ;)

[thugcruncher]

Well it is time. I gathered the components, did the initiate symbol, got the quest text for the second symbol, turned it in, and got ringmail pants. So I guess the npc is rewarding random ringmail pieces?

Did the turn in on Zorq, troll shaman. It would be really cool if this got fixed and I got the server first one :)

[nilbog]

Need additional research as to what should be working at this point in timeline.

[Erati]

please look into Tunare Warden symbol too :)

[thugcruncher]

Need additional research as to what should be working at this point in timeline.

Is Zam's original quest entry valid evidence?

Entered: Tue Jun 27 08:50:28 2000

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=666 (quest of the beast)

[nilbog]

Yes, that's looking good so far. I need to get caught up on what all currently exists, and what should exist when. I welcome research help on these..

Partially on topic:
Regent Symbol of Innoruuk - Pending update, the current 2 str will be 2 int.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/equipment/rpics/Regent_Symbol_of_Innoruuk.jpg

[nilbog]

Ok so.. none should exist before 04/10/2000.

When I set these up, I will retroactively change how they should work from the past. In the event we ever open a new server, I will have rules applied to these so they will automatically work per timeline so I only want to fix this once.

Innoruuk - quest was added with that patch
post from 04/11/2000
http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7744

When I heard about the new deity based items, I quickly ran to the Spires, and talked to the guildmaster. Amazingly enough, for the first time ever, he responded, and gave a quest. Essentially, you have to kill the halflings in Nektulos and bring their necklaces back. You get some pretty rough faction hits. Negative to all the other clerics (Priests of Life etc.) In return for this service, you get the following item:
06/26/2000
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MwU6zlvgEcIJ:www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D381%26langid%3D2+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Ok I recently noticed(today) on EQ'Lizer that there is a new Initiate Symbol for the cleric class. This time it is the Initiate Symbol of Bertoxxulous. This makes Bertoxxulous, Innoruuk and Cazic Thule now... There are varying kinds of these necklaces for innoruuk and cazic thule and I imagine there are more for bertoxxulous(regent symbol and disciple symbol) so I ask this, WHERE THE HECK is my Initiate/Regent/Disciple Symbol of Brell Serilis, its bad enuf humans can wear 4 out of 5 I have seen and that they can wear the paineel quest armor and they get an exp bonus but c'mon, being a dwarf isn't an advantage over this just because we look so damn cool! If you know anything about a new quest from Kaladim Cleric's guild(haven't been there in T00 long) post it here please.An overview of which ones should possibly exist within classic timeline

https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/index.php?threads/some-thread-talked-about-the-initiate-quests-from-early-eq.183671/


nnoruuk Symbol is available to human, dark elf and troll (shaman). Weaken, Siphon Strength, Clinging Darkness.
Cazic to erudite, iksar and troll (shamans both). Spook the Dead, Panic animal (only two :-( ).
Bertoxxulous to human and gnome. Disease Cloud (only one! :-( ).
Tunare to human, high elf, half elf (druid) and wood elf (druid). Haste, Aloe Sweat, Grasping Roots.
Brell to dwarf and gnome. Strengthen, Summon Holy Ale of Brell, Elemental Shield.
Quellious to erudite. Lull, Soothe, Calm.

I left out a few shaman only ones. You can repeat quests to get all the relevant ones; I did that with my dwarf cleric. Tunare, Brell and Innoruuk are the good ones. Will research more later, but I need solid dates to make changes.

[thugcruncher]

Earliest wayback capture (Jun 12 2000) from Zam's Paineel quests page says:

Cazic Thule Initiate: Sern Adolia wants you to bring him some rat livers to study. These drop from undead rats in the newbie area. Bring 4 of them to him for xp, faction and The Initiate Symbol of Cazic Thule.

Cazic Thule Disciple: This is given after the initiate quest. Atdehim Sqonci wants you to bring him a Giant Snake Fang, Kerran Doll (drops from more than Kerran priestesses), Ichor of Wooly Spider, and your Initiate Symbol and he will reward you with the Disciple Symbol of Cazic Thule.

These images are added, or at least captured later March 2nd 2001:

http://i.imgur.com/l7YrKBg.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eeFeJBC.jpg




April 2000 capture of neck slot equipment table doesn't have any symbols.

June 2000 capture of neck slot equipment table has:

Initiate Symbol of Innoruuk: AC 3, +1 wis, +3 mana. magic, lore, no drop. Innoruuk Deity Item. Classes: C, Sm. Races: DE, Hum, Tr. Obtained through a Neriak Quest.
Initiate Symbol of Cazic Thule: AC 3, +1 wis, +3 mana. Effect of Spook the Dead. Cazic Thule Deity Item. Magic, lore, no drop. Classes: C, Sm. Races: Eru, Trl. Obtained through a Paineel Quest.
Disciple Symbol of Innoruuk: AC 5, +2 wis, +1 int, +7 mana. Effect of Siphon Strength. Innoruuk God Item. Classes: C, Sm. Races: Hum, Def, Trl. Obtained through a Neriak Quest. (Submitted by Slayne)
Disciple Symbol of Cazic Thule: AC 5, +2 wis, +1 str, +7 mana. Effect of Panic Animal. Cazix Thule God Item. Classes: C, Sm. Races: Eru, Trl. Obtained through a Paineel Quest.
Regent Symbol of Inoruuk: AC 7, +3 wis, +2 int. +15 mana. Wt. 0.1. Effect of Clinging Darkness. Magic, lore, no drop. Innoruuk Deity Item. Classes: C, Sm. Races: Hum, Def, Trl. Obtained through a Neriak Quest. (Sbmitted by Inyx D’Ater)

Oct 2000 capture of neck slot equipment table has:

Initiate Symbol of Innoruuk: AC 3, +1 wis, +3 mana. magic, lore, no drop. Innoruuk Deity Item. Classes: C, Sm. Races: DE, Hum, Tr. Obtained through a Neriak Quest.
Initiate Symbol of Cazic Thule: AC 3, +1 wis, +3 mana. Effect of Spook the Dead. Cazic Thule Deity Item. Magic, lore, no drop. Classes: C, Sm. Races: Eru, Trl. Obtained through a Paineel Quest.
Initiate Symbol of Bertoxxulous: AC 3, +1 wis, +3 mana. Effect of Disease Cloud. Magic, lore, no drop. Bertoxx deity item. Human and Gnome Cleric only. Obtained through an Ak'Anon Quest.
Initiate Symbol of the Tribunal: AC 3, +1 wis, +3 mana. Light Source. Effect of Hammer of Wrath. Magic, lore item. Barbarian Shaman only. Tribunal Deity Item. Obtained through a Halas Quest.
Initiate Symbol of Rallos Zek: AC 3. Effect of Yaulp. Light Source. Rallos Zek Deity Item. Obtained through an Ogguk Quest.
Disciple Symbol of Innoruuk: AC 5, +2 wis, +1 int, +7 mana. Effect of Siphon Strength. Innoruuk God Item. Classes: C, Sm. Races: Hum, Def, Trl. Obtained through a Neriak Quest. (Submitted by Slayne)
Disciple Symbol of Cazic Thule: AC 5, +2 wis, +1 str, +7 mana. Effect of Panic Animal. Cazix Thule God Item. Classes: C, Sm. Races: Eru, Trl. Obtained through a Paineel Quest.
Regent Symbol of Inoruuk: AC 7, +3 wis, +2 int. +15 mana. Wt. 0.1. Effect of Clinging Darkness. Magic, lore, no drop. Innoruuk Deity Item. Classes: C, Sm. Races: Hum, Def, Trl. Obtained through a Neriak Quest. (Sbmitted by Inyx D’Ater)


The december 28th 2001 capture of Disciple of Cazic symbol still says no Iksar, and somebody complained about that on the initiate symbol page in Jul 2001. Pretty firm evidence that Iksar's never get to use it pre-Luclin, a trade off for Greenmist (and other Iksar quests) being Iksar only pre-Luclin I guess.

LORE ITEM MAGIC ITEM NO DROP
AC: +5 Str: +1 Wis: +2 Mana: +7
Weight: 0.0
Classes: Shaman Cleric
Races: Troll Erudite
Deity: Cazic Thule
Inventory Slot: Neck
Can be stored in Medium and larger containers
Last updated: Thu Jun 14 10:03:52 2001
Effect: Panic Animal
Type: Triggered
Charges: Unlimited
Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 8

[Vega]

If you're going to fix these symbol quests anyhow, the initiate symbol of tunare's effect is currently incorrect on p99 aswell:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010814084734im_/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/equipment/graphics15/initiate_symbol_tunare.jpg

http://web.archive.org/web/20011217063423/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5654

[nilbog]

If you're going to fix these symbol quests anyhow, the initiate symbol of tunare's effect is currently incorrect on p99 aswell:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010814084734im_/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/equipment/graphics15/initiate_symbol_tunare.jpg

http://web.archive.org/web/20011217063423/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5654

Fixed, pending update.

[thugcruncher]

What more do we need for getting Disciple Symbol of Cazic Thule in the game?

[thugcruncher]

i am sad panda

[Erati]

so when does the other Tunare necks (#2 and #3) come into play ?

if this current one is classic did they not add any other ones til Velious?

Makes no sense we have this neck and not the other two while the other Discipline necks are all avail.......

[eisley]

well now that tunare necks are (yay) i was hoping we could get cazic disciple fixed. the quest is already in the game, but it rewards ringmail armor. could this perhaps be deity neck the dream first blood part 2: judgement day?

[reppa]

Bump?

[georgie]

Tldr

[nilbog]

I am going through the deity quests to make sure there aren't npcs or items that drop before their intended time.

There is not a lot of data about when these were independently introduced, so I am considering having them (ones introduced pre velious) available ~Apr2000 with the introduction of Kunark.

[Telin]

Just updating this thread to add that it looks like deity quests, at least in Paineel, were in from the start; however, they were rewarding raw-hide and ring mail armor until the symbols were added in April.

So the ringmail bug was intentional but meant to be temporary.

Raw-Hide Initiate:
http://web.archive.org/web/20020514104519/http://www.everlore.com/Quests/default.asp?id=84454&mode=35

Ring mail Disciple:
http://web.archive.org/web/20011224085602/http://www.everlore.com/quests/default.asp?id=199613&mode=35