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Rogean
08-29-2015, 05:24 PM
Please note that the wording in our RMT Rules has changed:

RMT (Real Money Trade) Sales
The involvement of any currency, items, or services external to any Project 1999 Server (Including but not limited to: real money (USD, Euro, Etc), regulated or otherwise (Bitcoins), Food/Delivery, Virtual currency of any other game (Platinum on Live or other EQEmulator Servers, Beta Keys for the latest new game, etc)) for any of that Project 1999 server's virtual items or service (Including by not limited to: Items, Platinum, Powerlevelling, Accounts/Characters) is strictly forbidden.

This change was done specifically to disallow the transfer of items or currency between Project 1999 servers. For example (but not limited to), you may no longer transfer Blue Platinum for Red Platinum, and vice versa.

newagemystic
08-29-2015, 05:30 PM
Pras

http://i57.servimg.com/u/f57/18/45/54/78/27905310.jpg

Lagorto
08-29-2015, 05:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/DVZ7X7X.gif?gifm

Sirken
08-29-2015, 05:33 PM
https://38.media.tumblr.com/c26b20d3523d58572c00a59fabfc6650/tumblr_mtzmeqC16Z1qcga5ro1_500.gif

khanable
08-29-2015, 05:43 PM
Nice

quido
08-29-2015, 05:46 PM
why?

Swifty
08-29-2015, 05:48 PM
http://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/8606/421336_031.jpg

fishingme
08-29-2015, 05:48 PM
why?

Gotta keep TMO on red.

newagemystic
08-29-2015, 05:50 PM
too much "i was xfering" for RMT excuses probably. Now its clear cut with no excuses to clog up GM time.

Nocsucow
08-29-2015, 06:40 PM
Well that blows

phacemeltar
08-29-2015, 06:47 PM
thank goodness! plz wipe server now

Braknar
08-29-2015, 07:01 PM
too much "i was xfering" for RMT excuses probably. Now its clear cut with no excuses to clog up GM time.


Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

Nocsucow
08-29-2015, 07:04 PM
In the end it will be a good change

Daldaen
08-29-2015, 07:24 PM
Fantastic change in policy!

First it was trading of account
Next it was trading across servers
What will the next be? MQ sales removed because of same RMT excuses?

Nirgon
08-29-2015, 07:26 PM
This change was done specifically to disallow the transfer of items or currency between Project 1999 servers. For example (but not limited to), you may no longer transfer Blue Platinum for Red Platinum, and vice versa.

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/7/5/16/anigif_enhanced-buzz-27986-1373055506-0.gif

o i liek

Braknar
08-29-2015, 07:30 PM
Fantastic change in policy!

First it was trading of account
Next it was trading across servers
What will the next be? MQ sales removed because of same RMT excuses?

Eh, some few assholes ruin things for everyone all the time, even IRL.

Why else do you think we have speed limits heh.

Robbintha Hood
08-29-2015, 07:38 PM
I think this should've been implemented a long time ago. Good job.

Pringles
08-29-2015, 07:44 PM
Well there goes my hopes and dreams of playing on red!


(OK, just kidding)

Nocsucow
08-29-2015, 07:47 PM
Well there goes my hopes and dreams of playing on red!


(OK, just kidding)
Lol

Come on over old pal I'll gear ya out... I have shit Tons of red and nothing to do with it....

Ele
08-29-2015, 07:50 PM
good choice

could this be the foundation for future plans!?!

having someone drop 400k from blue for a rare/unique drop on a fresh server would be lame

SamwiseRed
08-29-2015, 08:03 PM
You mean established bluebies might actually have to level on red without Epic twink gear from level 1? Nice.

Oleris
08-29-2015, 08:51 PM
taking your blue plat donations if you are playing red only now.
:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p

Frudrura
08-29-2015, 09:06 PM
Sounds like a good decision.

Haynar
08-29-2015, 09:29 PM
Next. No buying epic MQs!!! Ok. Maybe not. But still.

H

Tann
08-29-2015, 09:37 PM
Next. No buying epic MQs!!! Ok. Maybe not. But still.

H

http://media.giphy.com/media/VLoN2iW8ii3wA/giphy.gif

ClubnRed
08-29-2015, 09:41 PM
Sounds like a good change IMO. This should help tone down RMT, and it'll be easier for the devs/gms to track it i assume.

dafier
08-29-2015, 09:49 PM
Next. No buying epic MQs!!! Ok. Maybe not. But still.

H

I'm for that. However MQing epic for friends and guildys, I think should be fair.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/3748019/expecto-patronum-o.gif

kaev
08-29-2015, 10:17 PM
I'm for that. However MQing epic for friends and guildys, I think should be fair.


Uhuh, so you sell guildmembership for RL $ and then do a "legal" epic MQ, got it.

dafier
08-29-2015, 10:38 PM
No charge for helping friends and guildys. It's just 'help'. Not farming crap for RMT, or PP, or trade. Strictly for a single purpose.

No going to /auction WTS MQ 'blah blah' epic piece.

STRICTLY for epic items. Other MQ items, you can leave it how it is.

dafier
08-29-2015, 10:39 PM
Uhuh, so you sell guildmembership for RL $ and then do a "legal" epic MQ, got it.

Reminds me of something Forsaken would do....nice.

jaybone
08-29-2015, 10:49 PM
Well that blows

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nirgon
08-29-2015, 10:59 PM
Next. No buying epic MQs!!! Ok. Maybe not. But still.

H

There's prof posted that you shouldn't be able to do rogue epic until lvl 50

jaybone
08-29-2015, 11:04 PM
Make it illegal to sell MQs and you will see RMT drop. Red to blue transfers is a good start. Nocsucow is really sad I bet. Saw that dude trying to transfer literally 500k+ a day to blue. Wonder what for.

Nocsucow
08-29-2015, 11:12 PM
Make it illegal to sell MQs and you will see RMT drop. Red to blue transfers is a good start. Nocsucow is really sad I bet. Saw that dude trying to transfer literally 500k+ a day to blue. Wonder what for.

Correction pal.. I did transfer like 500 to blue.. .. still have shit loads on both servers.... you mad or jelly... probably both.. I'm glad this happened... it becomes a hassle being the most trusted guy on both servers.

radda
08-29-2015, 11:34 PM
Reminds me of something Forsaken would do....nice.
WHOA!!
name drop…

Swish
08-29-2015, 11:46 PM
Stuck with 10k blue plat, guess I'll have to delete it :p

Nocsucow
08-29-2015, 11:48 PM
Stuck with 10k blue plat, guess I'll have to delete it :p

Im stuck with way more then that

Nocsucow
08-29-2015, 11:49 PM
Glad I could help you out before this happened sir swish

Silent
08-30-2015, 12:09 AM
Thanks for the change.

B4EQWASCOOL
08-30-2015, 12:30 AM
Absolutely love this. Love the removal of selling MQ idea as well. Long live P99!

Pokesan
08-30-2015, 01:13 AM
Happy about this. I did myself benefit(cleanly) from the exchange rate, but now there's no reason to even touch red. #imfree

Gumbo
08-30-2015, 01:42 AM
I'm open to all platinum and equipment donations on the blue server... Send me a PM. :)

Labanen
08-30-2015, 02:21 AM
Eh, some few assholes ruin things for everyone all the timealways like that... however, i actually dont think this change ruins anything, i like it. Good job.

Messie
08-30-2015, 03:03 AM
I'm open to all platinum and equipment donations on the blue server... Send me a PM. :)

T7g
08-30-2015, 05:22 AM
This change negatively harms me but I still applaud it as a welcome and needed change.

LGraves
08-30-2015, 07:13 AM
Good change. I likey

Mojo24
08-30-2015, 09:27 AM
Well, time to stop playing on red for good.

Oleris
08-30-2015, 10:40 AM
Sounds like they are about to shut down red.

Suddz
08-30-2015, 11:06 AM
all thats left is to make a Blue Only Forum...

kaev
08-30-2015, 11:10 AM
all thats left is to make a Blue Only Forum...

Just put Swish in ignore, voila! instant blue only forums.

Sancta
08-30-2015, 01:28 PM
Just gives players less incentive to go from blue to red now.

Starting with some plat for spells etc was a good way of getting people on to red.

pathius41
08-30-2015, 01:39 PM
I'm open to all platinum and equipment donations on the blue server... Send me a PM. :)

as am I :D


Lvl 30 Rogue CoA

Telron
08-30-2015, 03:16 PM
One less reason for a blue player to try out red... cheers for server health.

fishingme
08-30-2015, 03:51 PM
I have to agree. Remove the ability to MQ

ElemtalRZ
08-30-2015, 03:54 PM
Just allow server transfers to red. :)

criddopher
08-30-2015, 04:00 PM
hurray!

Troof
08-30-2015, 05:54 PM
lol

Stormfists
08-30-2015, 06:06 PM
Pras.

Daybreak has a server that they transfer all the trainers, asshats, RMTers, troublemakers on. Imagine... Australia circa 1800. It's quite a good solution.

Red = the P99 equivalent. No boat back suckers!!

Telron
08-30-2015, 07:53 PM
Just allow server transfers to red. :)

a bi-directional service like this would be rad with a once per like 6 month limitation or something like that.

Shrubwise
08-30-2015, 09:31 PM
a bi-directional service like this would be rad with a once per like 6 month limitation or something like that.

I think the GMs disabled it to lighten their workload, not increase it

Mudslinger
08-31-2015, 12:26 AM
Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

Love it

bktroost
08-31-2015, 02:03 AM
So now someone can't just get on red, have a friend PL them in a week to 50+ and farm mega times to trade/sell in exchange for blue. Which is waaaay faster than actually farming blue items/cash.

Also, in this widely used scheme, I love that the end goal is always to gain on blue, not red.

ElemtalRZ
08-31-2015, 02:48 AM
Bring all the blue players to red that want to come. It will encourage the server growth of Red99, make it one way so that way you can't come back, and make it so that you can't transfer off. This is how it was on everquest live back in the day. A one way ticket to pvp land. There would be no incentive to bring plat over here, you can't transfer it to blue to inflate the server. Worst case scenario, someone brings a item over from blue that is worth 3x as less on our Red server. Personally, I would love for people to be able to transfer characters here. It would force them to pvp on characters if they knew they couldn't go back.

Smedy
08-31-2015, 03:03 AM
PRAS staff, good change here cracking down on the rmt scumlords

Sektor
08-31-2015, 08:50 AM
just glad i paid pixels for biggy to level me 7 60 toons before this rule came in, hehehehehehehe.

Guttzs
08-31-2015, 10:33 AM
Eh, some few assholes ruin things for everyone all the time, even IRL.

Why else do you think we have speed limits heh.

I understand why its done its easier to out right ban the xfers account sales etc. I just don't like it. Wish GMs had either tools or time available to just oust the assholes

jaybone
08-31-2015, 11:05 AM
So now someone can't just get on red, have a friend PL them in a week to 50+ and farm mega times to trade/sell in exchange for blue. Which is waaaay faster than actually farming blue items/cash.

Also, in this widely used scheme, I love that the end goal is always to gain on blue, not red.

You are dumb.

Nocsucow
08-31-2015, 11:17 AM
So now someone can't just get on red, have a friend PL them in a week to 50+ and farm mega times to trade/sell in exchange for blue. Which is waaaay faster than actually farming blue items/cash.

Also, in this widely used scheme, I love that the end goal is always to gain on blue, not red.
I used it to gain on both.. I play on both.. I could actually farm plat faster on blue then red... on blue it's non stop looting.... on red a 1v1 fight can last hours between 2 people at cash camps....

Agatha
08-31-2015, 01:37 PM
good job rogean, one of the biggest exploits people where taking advantage of was actually not even selling items, it was purchasing plat on red and transfering it to blue and tripling there investment, you didnt actually have to play the game itself to RMT. it was creating a huge market.

Raavak
08-31-2015, 01:41 PM
As a player I can see how its got to be hard to keep illegal transactions from veiling themselves as cross-server transfers.

As an economist I can see how allowing this will always hurt one economy at the expense of another. They should be completely independent from outside sources or you are asking from trouble.

Charlievox
08-31-2015, 05:24 PM
Stuck with 10k blue plat, guess I'll have to delete it :p

Can I havr your stuff?

Bristlebaner
09-01-2015, 12:07 AM
One less reason for a blue player to try out red... cheers for server health.

Sad commentary on Red if the only way someone will even set foot there is with a bank roll.

Tasslehofp99
09-01-2015, 12:51 AM
lol!!!!1

Gustoo
09-01-2015, 02:35 PM
I enjoyed trading accounts it was a fun thing to do

I enjoyed helping bluebies come over with a few K pp on red in exchange for some plat on blue

Too bad RMT makes stuff suck so bad.

Maybe make an actual official way to do these kinds of transfers. Like a cross server shared bank kind of situation.

am0n
09-01-2015, 03:04 PM
Stuck with 10k blue plat, guess I'll have to delete it :p

Im stuck with way more then that

I liked the Make a Swish Foundation better. For the people playing a while a few hundred or even 1 or 2k plat might seem small, but for someone who has only been playing for a month or two, that is still big (I should know, I keep looking at items costing 1-1.5k and realizing how long it'll be until I can afford them =P). Even a full set of banded would probably make some newer players days.

Gumbo
09-01-2015, 06:31 PM
I liked the Make a Swish Foundation better. For the people playing a while a few hundred or even 1 or 2k plat might seem small, but for someone who has only been playing for a month or two, that is still big (I should know, I keep looking at items costing 1-1.5k and realizing how long it'll be until I can afford them =P). Even a full set of banded would probably make some newer players days.

The line starts behind me... ;)

Ryanx3d
09-02-2015, 09:30 PM
For the people playing a while a few hundred or even 1 or 2k plat might seem small, but for someone who has only been playing for a month or two, that is still big (I should know, I keep looking at items costing 1-1.5k and realizing how long it'll be until I can afford them =P). Even a full set of banded would probably make some newer players days.

That's what I'm screaming. 1 to 2k makes this game bearable to play as a new player. I know so many people who give up on the game at lvl 5 because they are basically impotent and have no way to fill even half their gear slots. Xp doesn't move if you can't kill mobs near your level.

Gecko
09-03-2015, 07:51 AM
One less reason for a blue player to try out red... cheers for server health.

That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm sure there are valid reasons, but my guess is a lot of blue people with mid level characters will shy away from playing red.

Masakizt
09-03-2015, 08:08 AM
I don't understand what the issue of blue plat > red plat transfers was..

Someone care to explain for me why allowing them was sooo evil?

LostCause
09-03-2015, 08:26 AM
Pras.

Daybreak has a server that they transfer all the trainers, asshats, RMTers, troublemakers on. Imagine... Australia circa 1800. It's quite a good solution.

Red = the P99 equivalent. No boat back suckers!!

lol why you comparing daybreak? you realize daybreak has kronos... which you buy for money and can sell ingame.

am0n
09-03-2015, 08:50 AM
I don't understand what the issue of blue plat > red plat transfers was..

Someone care to explain for me why allowing them was sooo evil?

Think of it this way. When you transfer from one server to another, you have a character on one server making a very large transfer of money to another player, without them trading anything in return. You also have that on the other server. But what if they don't do the transfer right away? How can you be sure it wasn't RMT?

This change is very simply removing the games the GMs/Guides have to go through to figure out if this was just a server transfer or RMT. And truth is, even though Red and Blue are run by the same team, they are two entirely different servers. The GMs have already stated trading EQ stuff for stuff on other servers/games isn't allowed, so this change just simplifies everything. Trade stuff on blue for stuff on blue. Trade stuff on red for stuff on red.

Stormfists
09-04-2015, 07:57 PM
lol why you comparing daybreak? you realize daybreak has kronos... which you buy for money and can sell ingame.

Gotta be pretty sheltered not to know what a krono is but thanks, I got it. Glad your here.

The mention of DBG was to illustrate the fact that they have a retard pen, and so does P99 in the form of Red. Rogean and Co just making sure they can't climb the walls back into the sweet freedom of blue.

Don't hate the player, hate the elfsim.

Swish
09-04-2015, 09:09 PM
The mention of DBG was to illustrate the fact that they have a retard pen, and so does P99 in the form of Red. Rogean and Co just making sure they can't climb the walls back into the sweet freedom of blue.

That's acceptable, but call a blue player anything and there's a list of mad people calling for censorship or removal of the thread to a red forum.

Lojik
09-04-2015, 10:20 PM
I felt like red -blue transfers created a loophole in the no 2 boxing rule, as you could farm stuff on both servers and transfer for gain all on one server. Good change IMO

Stormfists
09-05-2015, 05:36 AM
That's acceptable, but call a blue player anything and there's a list of mad people calling for censorship or removal of the thread to a red forum.

I'm quite liberal - free speech etc.

Anyway, back on point - Yay.

Swish
09-05-2015, 11:39 AM
I'm quite liberal - free speech etc.

Anyway, back on point - Yay.

Some are more equal than others tho.

Stormfists
09-05-2015, 08:38 PM
Some are more equal than others tho.

The only animal farms I pay attention to are the one where she mounts the horse.

See how equal she is then eh!

curtischoy
09-14-2015, 01:51 PM
and just when I switch to red =/

Ele
09-14-2015, 01:56 PM
Too bad a federal court has already ruled Sony, and Blizzard have no right to do this. What makes you think you are special?

They aren't going to sue you or throw you in jail. You will get banned though, which they have the right to do anyway as it is their private server and they have no obligation to let you have access. Think of it as a special warning of how to avoid being banned.

Citing a court case won't help you get unbanned either.

Rogean
09-14-2015, 01:59 PM
Too bad a federal court has already ruled Sony, and Blizzard have no right to do this. What makes you think you are special?

You're pretty special aren't you.

Swish
09-14-2015, 02:18 PM
Soon as they ban someone with more time and money than brains. They'll get sued. They'll lose by default judgement too. Several other MMO's have already paid settlements over this type of rule. There's always someone with more money than brains. Don't know how you intend to settle it either without proving you take money for running this. Which would result in Sony suing you too.

The ambiguity of your post suggests you're talking shit lol.

am0n
09-14-2015, 02:32 PM
Soon as they ban someone with more time and money than brains. They'll get sued. They'll lose by default judgement too. Several other MMO's have already paid settlements over this type of rule. There's always someone with more money than brains. Don't know how you intend to settle it either without proving you take money for running this. Which would result in Sony suing you too.

Those others MMOs were likely games they were paying to play, so they had a semblance of an argument. This one is free. You are playing here because they allow you to, not because you pay money to gain access. They are equally capable of removing said permission for you to play.

Ele
09-14-2015, 02:44 PM
Soon as they ban someone with more time and money than brains. They'll get sued. They'll lose by default judgement too. Several other MMO's have already paid settlements over this type of rule. There's always someone with more money than brains. Don't know how you intend to settle it either without proving you take money for running this. Which would result in Sony suing you too.

lol, the things e-lawyers say

JDFriend99
09-18-2015, 09:25 PM
Nice
Cucumbers I saw you in ec tunnel other night as an ikky with epic glow of shd weap and you cast sow. My name is tluth online. Just wanna say you kick ass man. Keep being badass and nice to the low guys like you are. All too often we forget we were small once.

Now I want some damn cucumbers and ranch chopchop!!!!

Spriggen
10-24-2015, 12:45 AM
Why does it matter if I exchange Red plat for Blue plat? If you guys are going to ban this, then you need to ban MQing. I cannot play the 20 hours per day that everyone else does. Being able to farm red plat and get 3x the plat for blue helped me at least buy things that I don't have the time to sit there and farm. This is micromanaging. This never hurt anyone, and I never made RL money off this. All that server exchange does is help us.
I can't farm a cleric epic because everyone else is already doing it to sell the stupid MQ, and now you guys just took away the best way for me to make plat so I can buy it off these hardcore players. Please reconsider allowing the red to blue plat exchanges.

baalzy
10-24-2015, 02:19 AM
Why does it matter if I exchange Red plat for Blue plat? If you guys are going to ban this, then you need to ban MQing. I cannot play the 20 hours per day that everyone else does. Being able to farm red plat and get 3x the plat for blue helped me at least buy things that I don't have the time to sit there and farm. This is micromanaging. This never hurt anyone, and I never made RL money off this. All that server exchange does is help us.
I can't farm a cleric epic because everyone else is already doing it to sell the stupid MQ, and now you guys just took away the best way for me to make plat so I can buy it off these hardcore players. Please reconsider allowing the red to blue plat exchanges.

The biggest reason for banning the trading of RED -> BLUE was to make it easier to detect RMT without getting false positives.

silo32
10-26-2015, 08:11 AM
The biggest reason for banning the trading of RED -> BLUE was to make it easier to detect RMT without getting false positives.

This is the main reason and all these "fixes" are years too late imho

I started on red with nothing but a newb tunic and for along time I saw bluebies moving tons of plat to red to get a jump start or liquidate assets to there new home. Not classic and isn't fair to those of us that started from the bottom.

derpcake
10-26-2015, 12:57 PM
This is the main reason and all these "fixes" are years too late imho

I started on red with nothing but a newb tunic and for along time I saw bluebies moving tons of plat to red to get a jump start or liquidate assets to there new home. Not classic and isn't fair to those of us that started from the bottom.

I understand your argument, but progression is relatively easy on red.

You will die in pvp, everyone that has played longer then you is stronger, but once you find a guild, even though you are in rags, those stronger players will be passing loot to you and helping you kill stuff you couldn't dream to kill with a group of equals

Its not all bad. I'm sure some guy is newer then you, so you can at least pick on him!

Nocsucow
10-26-2015, 01:31 PM
I haven't had to do a plat transfer since.... it's pretty relaxing imo... this rule change had pros and cons.. but the main reason it was changed has been a success. . Braknar and others has loads of free time to answer honest and legit petitions which is always nice. I just don't know what to do with the few million in plat I have on blue *shrug*

Malk
10-26-2015, 01:38 PM
I just don't know what to do with the few million in plat I have on blue *shrug*

I can help with that