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BardPop
08-27-2015, 02:20 AM
With the recent changes to Vyemm on both red and blue, it seems to be that the encounter is being tuned for raid forces that far exceed the amount it was designed for live EQ. As someone who has been a part of Vyemm raids on red since day one, I have to say-I think the current version of Vyemm is even harder then the version of Vyemm that exists on live EQ. Currently with tanks at 1350 ac even a single mistake wipes the raid on Vyemm, on either red or blue. Nether server has had much success with this mob.

Personally I think the classic Velious encounters should only as hard as they were in classic,and should not be totally re-tuned out of concern that they are not hard enough for p99s current raid force. So my question to you is this: Should classic encounters be tuned around the raid force of p99 to the point where they may be unwinnable if numbers drop to 50-60 a raid as it might in many months down the line? The current tuning makes me concerned about the difficulty of the event in the instance where guild numbers drop and either p99 is left with a "normal' raid force instead of a 100-120 man raid force. Will Vyemm be re-tuned then?

krazyGlue
08-27-2015, 06:35 AM
Zergs with 98 . But complains about content designed for 40 . Claims its to hard . <empire>

Quiet
08-27-2015, 06:55 AM
Zergs with 98 . But complains about content designed for 40 . Claims its to hard . <empire>

ToV is that zone u get too from Western Wastes. Its full of dragons. Pixels and wonder. Let me know if you ever get the chance to zone in.

unleashedd
08-27-2015, 07:34 AM
not classic

krazyGlue
08-27-2015, 07:42 AM
ToV is that zone u get too from Western Wastes. Its full of dragons. Pixels and wonder. Let me know if you ever get the chance to zone in.

I have 5+ years to do it so I'm not rushing

Jazzy
08-27-2015, 07:46 AM
Video games should be a challenge man.

Dont worry about it.

Jeni
08-27-2015, 09:59 AM
lol

Xend
08-27-2015, 10:12 AM
krazyGlue
This message is hidden because krazyGlue is on your ignore list.

-Posts on like every thread whining
-Complains about server health, but spent over a year on Mrbigz (fungi/epic rogue)griefing newbies in unrest off the server
-His own guildmates in azrael couldn't stand him
-Taken as seriously as Agatha and Ragnaros
-toxic levels of immersion

You're not at Drakar levels yet, but god damn. It's a game man.

Edit: voted for cake.

Nirgon
08-27-2015, 10:17 AM
Go ahead and nail me to a cross for enjoying having a feeling of progression right now

Vyemm was a monster but need prof of what he should do when unslowed to tanks with their current gear

Heebo
08-27-2015, 10:21 AM
Go ahead and nail me to a cross for enjoying having a feeling of progression right now

Same.

Terpuntine
08-27-2015, 10:23 AM
Love that they cranked him up, would love if they tuned up the rest as well. Nhdc about how shit was on live crank them up.

ClubnRed
08-27-2015, 10:28 AM
So from what i gather it seems like that dominating guild really does NOT want any kind of challenge. Good to know. I know who ill focus on murdering everytime i see that tag.

Dont like a challenge? I think WoW is better suited for empire

Malevz
08-27-2015, 10:36 AM
Vyemm was a monster but need prof of what he should do when unslowed to tanks with their current gear

Don't think he can be slowed until later expansions with disease slow.

Crazycloud
08-27-2015, 11:10 AM
So from what i gather it seems like that dominating guild really does NOT want any kind of challenge. Good to know. I know who ill focus on murdering everytime i see that tag.

Dont like a challenge? I think WoW is better suited for empire

It seems like yall don't want the challenge.

PLEASE GO TO WOW SO I CAN PLAY EQ.

Go recruit and build an army like empire did.

WE DA BEST

ClubnRed
08-27-2015, 11:18 AM
Created a ranger and BAM instantly invited to empire (less then 30 seconds in game). Man they really are trying hard to get anything they can lmao.

Seltius
08-27-2015, 11:51 AM
ToV is that zone u get too from Western Wastes. Its full of dragons. Pixels and wonder. Let me know if you ever get the chance to zone in.

I will accept your challenge.

Nirgon
08-27-2015, 12:04 PM
Don't think he can be slowed until later expansions with disease slow.

Yaw, known

Load up live and roll some 100khp a tick heal over time + heal spam on a tank with this kind of ac/HP/ac and post a few hours of parse (macros are legal on live??)

Gnomegrown2
08-27-2015, 12:32 PM
no one cares what any of you think

about anything

Neno
08-27-2015, 12:48 PM
Dont like a challenge? I think WoW is better suited for empire

uhh you do realize that WoW raid content, outside of LFR, is leaps and bounds more difficult than anything EQ has ever done.

The only "hard" part about EQ is the tedious leveling. You could argue that racing for mobs is difficult but that has nothing to do with the actual mechanics of the game. If raid bosses were spawnable with tokens or some shit almost every single guild that that is raid oriented would be clearing Sleepers and ToV weekly.

Nirgon
08-27-2015, 01:15 PM
OK Zlandicar is left up right now go ahead

Malevz
08-27-2015, 01:22 PM
OK Zlandicar is left up right now go ahead

Yelinak and Sont are up too Neno. You could go do some easy raiding and have 3 VP keys today.

Efwan
08-27-2015, 02:45 PM
OK Zlandicar is left up right now go ahead

Hmm interesting

yikes
08-27-2015, 03:04 PM
Created a ranger and BAM instantly invited to empire (less then 30 seconds in game). Man they really are trying hard to get anything they can lmao.

Keep working on FQ. Some day you may shine

Holey
08-27-2015, 03:06 PM
It's fun almost out dpsing the some rogues ny like 5k on Roy ☺️

Nirgon
08-27-2015, 06:52 PM
Hmm interesting

He will be up all weekend

Good luck

Tradesonred
08-27-2015, 08:00 PM
I think theyre doing a great favor for the people who tried their hardest to ruin the server. I mean what better way to help empire recruit than letting them say that the only way youll beat encounters is through a zerg. Keep up the good work

Ragnaros
08-27-2015, 08:09 PM
This screams, MY ZERG CANT ZERG MOBS, MAKE IT EASIER FOR ME

Doors
08-28-2015, 01:02 AM
Vyemm is currently tuned for NON classic content (90 plus people).

This is further backed up by the fact that Rogean bans people for twitch stream rants and the fact that there are luclin era drakes in NTOV.

DRAGONBAIT
08-28-2015, 02:59 AM
Vyemm is currently tuned for NON classic content (90 plus people).

This is further backed up by the fact that Rogean bans people for twitch stream rants and the fact that there are luclin era drakes in NTOV.


i dont know vyemm, but i did go to tov durin luclin era and the best we got was an ex-indig tank ( beaounegar ) with a vindi bp and less than 50. i was a rogue hitin bs to the dragons they pulled to a corner, 16 years old. know nothing about tov but i know that.

abbud
08-28-2015, 10:14 AM
At first I thought this was a blue thread posted in the wrong forum, but then I realized that blue have no problems killing him and they're actually being contested.

You are being real weird right now.

Michael Cera
08-28-2015, 02:14 PM
http://puu.sh/iQjIu/2ff3ecb141.jpg

LostCause
08-28-2015, 02:16 PM
shits classic.

XiakenjaTZ
08-28-2015, 05:13 PM
I don't mind the difficulty all that much but I do think the drakes that are added during Velious should be removed. It would make it easier for a 2nd guild to sneak in and get a kill on something if they had a spot to CoH to.

derpcake
08-29-2015, 04:18 AM
Vyemm is currently tuned for NON classic content (90 plus people).

This is further backed up by the fact that Rogean bans people for twitch stream rants and the fact that there are luclin era drakes in NTOV.

i raided him on xegony with illuminati sancti

think most raids were 55-58 people or so

we farmed the lower end shit for what seemed an endless period tho, soo many ikatiars stingers

georgie
08-29-2015, 05:02 AM
http://puu.sh/iQjIu/2ff3ecb141.jpg

lol jib?

filthyphil
08-29-2015, 09:27 AM
Did they increase the difficulty to match the zerg? if so the problem lies with the server, not the mobs. Red sucks, wipe it clean.

R Flair
08-29-2015, 11:54 AM
http://i.imgur.com/KYhuX9e.png

Sektor
08-29-2015, 12:01 PM
Vyemm is currently tuned for NON classic content (90 plus people).

This is further backed up by the fact that Rogean bans people for twitch stream rants and the fact that there are luclin era drakes in NTOV.

It's his server pal, he can do whatever he wants, enraging him as a guild will only put you guys under hot water.

Gustoo
08-29-2015, 01:46 PM
Hey while you're arbitrarily changing velious dragon difficulty to suit your mood could you maybe fix epic mage pet resists so it doesn't react to spells like a green con rat?

cool thanks!

I completely agree with this 100% rock solid logic

but sadly staff never accepts this kind of reasoning

Tradesonred
08-29-2015, 01:53 PM
It's his server pal, he can do whatever he wants, enraging him as a guild will only put you guys under hot water.

Sektor is the worst suck-up on these forums, he doesnt even try to be subtle about it.

Tradesonred
08-29-2015, 02:00 PM
For my part maybe i was a tad harsh on named mobs getting boosted. They probably mean well, to slow down gear progression but like someone said that just means other crews dont get a shot at sniping them unless they have similar roster numbers. Servers a big ole mess, wish they would start a discord server so i could casually fuck around.

LostCause
08-29-2015, 02:02 PM
you know the drill get crootin.

Telron
08-29-2015, 03:10 PM
I'm not sure what content could be hard here for 90 ppl lol. Sept sleeper / AOW...

Stupid auto correct

Telron
08-29-2015, 03:11 PM
Heres a thought. Take those 90 ppl and go pvp around Norrath. Could be fun... i dont think they drop loot though...

Kevynne
08-30-2015, 06:52 PM
I'm not sure what content could be hard here for 90 ppl lol. Sept sleeper / AOW...

Stupid auto correct

baeee

Evia
08-30-2015, 09:50 PM
I'm all about keeping it classic. So in my opinion I dislike this change. I thought it was all about delivering a classic experience regardless of pretty much any circumstance?

DRAGONBAIT
08-31-2015, 12:25 PM
well im all up for classic, but its 2015 so if we can fix encounters be it plz