VA live reporter shooting

[Ranndom]

Supposed shooter is a light skinned black man, shooter in video is clearly white.
Bodies are still warm, and suddenly every politician has an empty schedule and has speeches prepared to spread the gun control agenda.
Another event just going to be used to twist and divide the American people into hating each other instead of the government.
Just an fyi, gun control doesn't work. And when it does work, You're on your way to Treblinka or Belzec. Or perhaps you'll be lucky and sent to Auschwitz II.

[Swish]

Even if gun control laws reached UK levels there's no way there's existing paperwork on the millions of guns out there. If I was an American citizen I would definitely own one for self defence and defence of my property/family/etc.

Here you're stuck with a baseball bat or a sharp knife :/

[Ranndom]

Even if gun control laws reached UK levels there's no way there's existing paperwork on the millions of guns out there. If I was an American citizen I would definitely own one for self defence and defence of my property/family/etc.

Here you're stuck with a baseball bat or a sharp knife :/

UK levels are just stupid. However, the population their has largely grown extremely ignorant to firearms...and well...at this point the UK would need a quite lengthy "rehab" to actually become a free people. Though, US isnt much different.

[Shrubwise]

Yeah. Clearly white.

http://i.imgur.com/wJV85PC.jpg

[Pokesan]

this wouldn't have happened if the reporter had a gun

[Snapple]

Even if gun control laws reached UK levels there's no way there's existing paperwork on the millions of guns out there. If I was an American citizen I would definitely own one for self defence and defence of my property/family/etc.

Here you're stuck with a baseball bat or a sharp knife :/

But most of the times so is the criminal - which is entirely the point.

[Whiteberry]

I live like 10 min from where this sociopath shot em.... He's clearly fucked up in the head. Look at his face / eyes there's no way he could have legally owned a gun. Prolly stole it..

[Ranndom]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3211529/WDBJ7-reporter-Alison-Parker-Adam-Ward-shot-live-TV-Moneta-gunman.html
Heres another funny piece of information. Look at the pictures.
The one with the "LIVE" image of the cameramans camera supposedly looking at the shooter.
And the one below it, the other "LIVE" image of the reporters shocked face.
Now look at the time.
How does the same live broadcast happen to be 6:00 AM and 6:46 AM?
Other thing i find strange, however not unreasonable, is an unsuspecting person being shot atleast twice in the chest, especially one that small, and still being able to flee at a decent speed.

[Ranndom]

I live like 10 min from where this sociopath shot em.... He's clearly fucked up in the head. Look at his face / eyes there's no way he could have legally owned a gun. Prolly stole it..

Based on the guys twitter posts, id say hed been brainwashed by the black lives matter movement just because his only stated motive for the shooting was "allison said something racist"

[Swish]

But most of the times so is the criminal - which is entirely the point.

Not if you're in a big city (London, Manchester, Birmingham)





At first glance I thought he fired blanks, there's no way you take 4 bullets at short range and continue to run away, is there?

http://sendvid.com/e06krez1

[Ranndom]

But most of the times so is the criminal - which is entirely the point.

Uh huh, because a criminal will go out and legally purchase a couple hundred dollar handgun just to rob 100 dollars from a convenient store.
Also, you do realize the governments are the most dangerous criminals of them all, right?
Makes sense for the criminals to not want armed opposition, doesnt it?

[Ranndom]

this wouldn't have happened if the reporter had a gun

Probably wouldve had a better chance of surviving at least if the fucking reporters had a little more sitautional awareness and a little less stupidity. I mean the chick being interviewed had CLEAR peripheral vision of the gun when he originally pointed the gun but lowered it because the cameraman panned out.

[LulzSect]

in addition to the live feed, the sicko filmed himself executing them and posted it on facebook

[Ranndom]

Not if you're in a big city (London, Manchester, Birmingham)





At first glance I thought he fired blanks, there's no way you take 4 bullets at short range and continue to run away, is there?

http://sendvid.com/e06krez1

Footage might just be shitty quality, but im not even seeing shell casings, Nor any sign of blood after the first 3 shots at 10% speed of the video.
Can see my initial perception was wrong though, the man in the video is light skinned, just the way the lighting was in the area that literally made his hand go from white to brown it looks like.
He basically pulled a jeb bush
EDIT: in the live WDBJ footage you can see a couple shell casings bounce around, i was right, just poor quality from the cellphone video

[Shrubwise]

You truly are a delusional person, aren't you?

[simp403]

And when it does work, You're on your way to Treblinka or Belzec. Or perhaps you'll be lucky and sent to Auschwitz II.

Get a grip, dude.

[maskedmelon]

But most of the times so is the criminal - which is entirely the point.

Right because when you make a law that prohibits something criminals tend to follow it, most of the time.

Wait, what?

[Pokesan]

Right because when you make a law that prohibits something criminals tend to follow it, most of the time.

Wait, what?

Isn't that automatic? If you break the law you're a criminal. I'm not sure what you meant here.

[iruinedyourday]

Supposed shooter is a light skinned black man, shooter in video is clearly white.
Bodies are still warm, and suddenly every politician has an empty schedule and has speeches prepared to spread the gun control agenda.
Another event just going to be used to twist and divide the American people into hating each other instead of the government.
Just an fyi, gun control doesn't work. And when it does work, You're on your way to Treblinka or Belzec. Or perhaps you'll be lucky and sent to Auschwitz II.

fyi gun control works just idiots in america think it doesn't cus dumb.

but its cool how you immediately made it a gun control issue with your OP, idiot.

[Pokesan]

I'd rather go to Auschwitz II than read any more posts from OP

[Orruar]

shooter in video is clearly white.

Were you retarded from birth, or did you get that way on your own accord?

[maskedmelon]

Isn't that automatic? If you break the law you're a criminal. I'm not sure what you meant here.

With 100's of millions of small arms in the US, any prohibition on possession thereof would only be followed by rational law abiding citizens. The idea therefore that criminals would not have them is naive.

The policy could only hope to work where such weapons are already scarce and import is particularly burdensome.

[Ranndom]

Were you retarded from birth, or did you get that way on your own accord?

If you would read the comments, youd see that i clearly stated his hand changes color during the video due to lighting.

[Ranndom]

Isn't that automatic? If you break the law you're a criminal. I'm not sure what you meant here.

theres so many forgotten and pointless laws in the US that at any given time you're breaking at least 50

[Ranndom]

fyi gun control works just idiots in america think it doesn't cus dumb.

but its cool how you immediately made it a gun control issue with your OP, idiot.

Chicago.
Also, i didnt make it a gun control issue. Virginia's governor, hitlery bitchaton, and a whole bunch of others were shouting gun control before 6 hours had even passed

[dafier]

there's no way you take 4 bullets at short range and continue to run away, is there?

You've never hunted have you? (Really trying not to be sarcastic) An animals body is an amazing thing. Humans are just the same.

I've heard of stories where someone has been shot in the heart and their body kept running and more for over 30 seconds.

I've heard of stories where someone is shot in the upper part of the head (brain) and stayed awake until the doctor at the hospital put them to sleep for surgery.

Serotonin (natural) allows us, humans, to do things that baffles even the most skilled scientist/doctors. It's absolutely tragic that this occurred and hearing the screeming in the video proves the lady being shot is not only still conscious, but aware of the horrible situation laid out before her.

:( This is terrible.

[Daldaen]

Called a politician hitler, and suggested people will be sent to one of the most infamous death camps, where over 1 million people lost their lives during the Holocaust...

All because people suggest maybe some more strict laws on who has access to purchasing firearms after crazy people kill some people with firearms.

Sounds pretty reasonable...

[dafier]

Chicago.
Also, i didnt make it a gun control issue. Virginia's governor, hitlery bitchaton, and a whole bunch of others were shouting gun control before 6 hours had even passed

I'd NEVER live in that shitty, non-constitutional following state. VA has some screwed up and ass backward leaders.

[Ranndom]

I'd rather go to Auschwitz II than read any more posts from OP

You must be mentally unstable if you constantly view something you do not wish to see

[Ranndom]

I'd NEVER live in that shitty, non-constitutional following state. VA has some screwed up and ass backward leaders.

Yea, VA is half assed and retarded atm. This is because they were once decent, but the change has been changing "parties" over the past years and so now its just stupid

[Pokesan]

With 100's of millions of small arms in the US, any prohibition on possession thereof would only be followed by rational law abiding citizens. The idea therefore that criminals would not have them is naive.

The policy could only hope to work where such weapons are already scarce and import is particularly burdensome.

It would take years if not decades but what's the alternative - maintaining the status quo? Arming everyone?

[dafier]

Yea, VA is half assed and retarded atm. This is because they were once decent, but the change has been changing "parties" over the past years and so now its just stupid

I don't think their unconstitutional laws will change either. That's the sad part. :mad:

[Ranndom]

Called a politician hitler, and suggested people will be sent to one of the most infamous death camps, where over 1 million people lost their lives during the Holocaust...

All because people suggest maybe some more strict laws on who has access to purchasing firearms after crazy people kill some people with firearms.

Sounds pretty reasonable...

i bet you think Snowden is a traitor too.
Fyi Hitlery, got her name from when she said...Rough quote "I think All adults should go to fun camps"

[Ranndom]

It would take years if not decades but what's the alternative - maintaining the status quo? Arming everyone?

Getting rid of the fear. Let Americans choose if they want to own or not to own. A Basic Constitutional right. Simple as that. Choice is everything, they take away our choice, its only a matter of time until we take their power. End of Story

[Itap]

Not everything is a god damn conspiracy, you're fucking losing it.

[surron]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3211529/WDBJ7-reporter-Alison-Parker-Adam-Ward-shot-live-TV-Moneta-gunman.html

How does the same live broadcast happen to be 6:00 AM and 6:46 AM?
Other thing i find strange, however not unreasonable, is an unsuspecting person being shot atleast twice in the chest, especially one that small, and still being able to flee at a decent speed.

The time 6:46 is the time of it actually happening. The 6:00 AM time you're seeing is the DVR showing the start time of the morning news.

Some of those pictures are from the news broadcast and some are from the killer's own cell phone which he uploaded to twitter. She didn't flee, she gets gunned down and maybe runs like 2 steps, and the camera mans camera doesnt show her run at all, so where are you getting the fact that she flee'd at a decent speed?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

gun control works.

True believer detected.

I bet he din do nuffin either. Somehow this is the white man's fault. #blacklivesmadder #pantsupdontloot

[Daldaen]

Getting rid of the fear. Let Americans choose if they want to own or not to own. A Basic Constitutional right. Simple as that. Choice is everything, they take away our choice, its only a matter of time until we take their power. End of Story

You should wear some snow shoes if you're going to try to walk up that slippery slope. I don't want you to fall and hurt yourself. The tin on your hat isn't going to protect you when you fall that hard.

If your argument ever contains comparisons to Hitler, the SS, Concentration camps or the Holocaust.

1. Stop.
2. Don't be retarded
3. Realize that ANYTHING you're bitching about on the boards of a 16 year old emulated game cannot possibly measure up to the horror and pure evil that was the Holocaust and the individuals who orchestrated it.

[Dac321]

You should wear some snow shoes if you're going to try to walk up that slippery slope. I don't want you to fall and hurt yourself. The tin on your hat isn't going to protect you when you fall that hard.

If your argument ever contains comparisons to Hitler, the SS, Concentration camps or the Holocaust.

1. Stop.
2. Don't be retarded
3. Realize that ANYTHING you're bitching about on the boards of a 16 year old emulated game cannot possibly measure up to the horror and pure evil that was the Holocaust and the individuals who orchestrated it.

http://i.giphy.com/7rj2ZgttvgomY.gif

[maskedmelon]

It would take years if not decades but what's the alternative - maintaining the status quo? Arming everyone?

I think that is a question we ought to explore as a society. Criminal and mental health background checks are a good practice. Stiffer penalties for all violent crime including involuntary hospitalization for mentally compromised individuals is another topic worth exploring to minimize repeat offenses and avoid major incidents. Socio-economic policy that conditions that are not conducive to violent crime is also worth delving into.

The focus needs to be on violent crime and its causes.

[Swish]

black guy kills 2 white people, where's #whitelivesmatter? rofl

[Ranndom]

Not everything is a god damn conspiracy, you're fucking losing it.

I never said it was a "conspiracy"
However, as an American, i feel it is my duty to question everything. And questioning is what i shall do.

[maskedmelon]

black guy kills 2 white people, where's #whitelivesmatter? rofl

I'm guessing we'll hear:

1. This wasn't his fault. His actions were the result of some form of oppression or marginalization by society.
2. We need more government funding for programs to help combat stressors giving rise to this sort of thing in the communities of which he was a part.
3. This is the fault of one or more prominent social/political figures who disagree with 1 and 2.

[iruinedyourday]

With 100's of millions of small arms in the US, any prohibition on possession thereof would only be followed by rational law abiding citizens. The idea therefore that criminals would not have them is naive.

The policy could only hope to work where such weapons are already scarce and import is particularly burdensome.

Ordinary law abiding citizens with guns are exactly the type of people I've always been afraid of.

I am NOT afraid of criminals with guns. Criminals with guns dont walk into churchs and shoot everyone... criminals with guns dont send manifestos to their old work and shoot 2 journalists.. Criminals with guns dont dress up like super villains and shoot random people in movie theaters... Of course criminals cause gun deaths, but if I am going to be killed by a gun.. it is going to be by someone who isn't a criminal, or at least wasn't until they shot me.

Aka probably one of you mostly likely, OP.

[Ranndom]

You should wear some snow shoes if you're going to try to walk up that slippery slope. I don't want you to fall and hurt yourself. The tin on your hat isn't going to protect you when you fall that hard.

If your argument ever contains comparisons to Hitler, the SS, Concentration camps or the Holocaust.

1. Stop.
2. Don't be retarded
3. Realize that ANYTHING you're bitching about on the boards of a 16 year old emulated game cannot possibly measure up to the horror and pure evil that was the Holocaust and the individuals who orchestrated it.

First off, location has absolutely nothing to do with it. People are people.
Secondly, The acts hitler committed are EASILY replicable by any government if they so desire.
Thirdly, It wasnt the individuals. It was the masses. Hitler brainwashed his people into letting it happen. Just like how our government is brainwashing blacks against whites as we speak.

[Ranndom]

Ordinary law abiding citizens with guns are exactly the type of people I've always been afraid of.

I am NOT afraid of criminals with guns. Criminals with guns dont walk into churchs and shoot everyone... criminals with guns dont send manifestos to their old work and shoot 2 journalists.. Criminals with guns dont dress up like super villains and shoot random people in movie theaters... Of course criminals cause gun deaths, but if I am going to be killed by a gun.. it is going to be by someone who isn't a criminal, or at least wasn't until they shot me.

Aka probably one of you mostly likely, OP.
If a law abiding person decides to kill someone, they arent a law abiding citizen. Thats premeditated (attempted)murder.

[Ranndom]

black guy kills 2 white people, where's #whitelivesmatter? rofl

Das Racist.

[maskedmelon]

i feel it is my duty to question everything.

This. This is the most sacred of man's duties as steward of this moldy rock. Every question is a step along the path to enlightenment. Skepticism is the light in which all truth sparkles.

Keep I mind though that one must also question oneself as well as one's thoughts, opinions, assertions and yes, even questions.

[iruinedyourday]

If a law abiding person decides to kill someone, they arent a law abiding citizen. Thats premeditated (attempted)murder.

look man I dont want to argue with you, cus these threads are clearly your manifestos and Id love to stay off your list.. but you obviously didnt read my post or even care what my point is at all. So good luck with your crusade to be one of the first to welcome the apocalypse and our future alien overlords.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvumIUnIIAEvcfI.jpg

[Ranndom]

This. This is the most sacred of man's duties as steward of this moldy rock. Every question is a step along the path to enlightenment. Skepticism is the light in which all truth sparkles.

Keep I mind though that one must also question oneself as well as one's thoughts, opinions, assertions and yes, even questions.

I do question myself, which is why i went back and corrected a bad statement i made in the original post after discovering the reason :P

[Ranndom]

look man I dont want to argue with you, cus these threads are clearly your manifestos and Id love to stay off your list.. but you obviously didnt read my post or even care what my point is at all. So good luck with your crusade to be one of the first to welcome the apocalypse and our future alien overlords.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvumIUnIIAEvcfI.jpg

Lol, the brainwashing has taken a hold of you. Dont you see? Your words are ripe with fear.

[iruinedyourday]

The only thing im afraid of are Project 1999ers...

[maskedmelon]

The only thing im afraid of are Project 1999ers...

Prudent ^^

[captnamazing]

The only thing im afraid of are Project 1999ers...

wise choice my friend. i am currently sucking a hobo's dick (while typing) to use his hotspot so i can write this message. p99 is nothing to be scoffed at. rogean is kim jong un. we are all doomed. the p99 speedboats are en route to my location. gotta go

[maskedmelon]

Ordinary law abiding citizens with guns are exactly the type of people I've always been afraid of.

I am NOT afraid of criminals with guns. Criminals with guns dont walk into churchs and shoot everyone... criminals with guns dont send manifestos to their old work and shoot 2 journalists.. Criminals with guns dont dress up like super villains and shoot random people in movie theaters... Of course criminals cause gun deaths, but if I am going to be killed by a gun.. it is going to be by someone who isn't a criminal, or at least wasn't until they shot me.

Aka probably one of you mostly likely, OP.

Let's get to the heart of the matter. You don't want to be killed right? I know it should be obvious, but that is where we need to start to find common ground.

Beyond that, is it fair to say that you feel guns are the greatest threat to your life?

[captnamazing]

i feel that neckbeards with pixel addiction are the greatest threat to my life atm

[iruinedyourday]

Let's get to the heart of the matter. You don't want to be killed right? I know it should be obvious, but that is where we need to start to find common ground.

Beyond that, is it fair to say that you feel guns are the greatest threat to your life?

no, which is why I only respond to people that make posts on my video games forum about this that start by saying:'stupid meida is going to turn this into a gun control issue, lets talk about the gun control issue!'...

If you want to talk about the gun control issue and you are in favor of americas policies on gun ownership and gun control, and then you are going to stand there and say that our policies are NOT the cause of our gun violence... I'm going to call you a retard because that's exactly what you are.

https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/iNUIPGjzBeX1DVB1pG87ypFELeQ=/600x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3985388/gun%20homicides%20per%20capita.jpg

http://www.vox.com/2015/8/24/9183525/gun-violence-statistics

what difference does it make though, yall are a party of extreme lunatics intermingled with my cousins who live in your ignorant landlocked states :D

[Ranndom]

The only thing im afraid of are Project 1999ers...

You must play on red :P

[Ranndom]

no, which is why I only respond to people that make posts on my video games forum about this that start by saying:'stupid meida is going to turn this into a gun control issue, lets talk about the gun control issue!'...

If you want to talk about the gun control issue and you are in favor of americas policies on gun ownership and gun control, and then you are going to stand there and say that our policies are NOT the cause of our gun violence... I'm going to call you a retard because that's exactly what you are.

https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/iNUIPGjzBeX1DVB1pG87ypFELeQ=/600x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3985388/gun%20homicides%20per%20capita.jpg

http://www.vox.com/2015/8/24/9183525/gun-violence-statistics

what difference does it make though, yall are a party of extreme lunatics intermingled with my cousins who live in your ignorant landlocked states :D

http://www.homeinvasionnews.com/if-you-see-these-home-invasion-statistics-dont-look/
Look i have statistics too. 2,920,000 reason to own a firearm, and thats just for home invasions. If i am to be a victim of statistics, im going to be a victim of self defense statistics.

[iruinedyourday]

You must play on red :P

haha yea but heheheh... plz dont kill me.

http://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/680/a91aeea0-9d95-0132-e44b-0e7954aeedc0.gif?

[Ranndom]

haha yea but heheheh... plz dont kill me.

http://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/680/a91aeea0-9d95-0132-e44b-0e7954aeedc0.gif?

I wont kill you if you dont try to kill me. Nuff said.
Unless were playing cod. then you're being spawn trapped.

[iruinedyourday]

Im just going to wait out the war on gun control.. eventually my side WILL win.. my side always does win, over time. But for now i just have to be a part of the unfortunate generation of people who cant get people to shut up about how gun control is the devil and post about it on facebook all day incencently while simultaniously asking people to stop talking about it.

praise be to the smart and decent human beings who are afraid of weapons, instead of our fellow man.

Except I am afraid of our fellow p99ers too so I am a paradox.

[maskedmelon]

This is the issue with gun control:

http://crimepreventionresearchcenter.org/2013/12/murder-and-homicide-rates-before-and-after-gun-bans/

[maskedmelon]

praise be to the smart and decent human beings who are afraid of weapons, instead of our fellow man.



D: this is intriguing, depressing and terrifying all at once.

[Ranndom]

Im just going to wait out the war on gun control.. eventually my side WILL win.. my side always does win, over time. But for now i just have to be a part of the unfortunate generation of people who cant get people to shut up about how gun control is the devil and post about it on facebook all day incencently while simultaniously asking people to stop talking about it.

praise be to the smart and decent human beings who are afraid of weapons, instead of our fellow man.

Except I am afraid of our fellow p99ers too so I am a paradox.
Soviet Union-1929
Cambodia-1956
Germany-1938
Ottoman Empire-1911
China-1935
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country."-Adolf Hitler
Btw, Gun Control is responsible for over 56 million deaths. Not here and there, but in massive executions.

[Rogean]

Other thing i find strange, however not unreasonable, is an unsuspecting person being shot atleast twice in the chest, especially one that small, and still being able to flee at a decent speed.

At first glance I thought he fired blanks, there's no way you take 4 bullets at short range and continue to run away, is there?

Footage might just be shitty quality, but im not even seeing shell casings, Nor any sign of blood after the first 3 shots at 10% speed of the video.
EDIT: in the live WDBJ footage you can see a couple shell casings bounce around, i was right, just poor quality from the cellphone video

Yea I think you guys are too used to how it's portrayed in movies. In real life, adrenaline hits and you don't even know if you're hit right away. You can only think about getting away. Also, blood doesn't necessarily splatter all over the place.

She didn't make it far.

[myriverse]

Getting rid of the fear. Let Americans choose if they want to own or not to own. A Basic Constitutional right. Simple as that. Choice is everything, they take away our choice, its only a matter of time until we take their power. End of Story
Arming yourself is succumbing to fear.

[Rogean]

The only thing im afraid of are Project 1999ers...

There's a reason I carry. People here are fucking crazy.

[Swish]

Soviet Union-1929
Cambodia-1956
Germany-1938
Ottoman Empire-1911
China-1935
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country."-Adolf Hitler
Btw, Gun Control is responsible for over 56 million deaths. Not here and there, but in massive executions.

The Ottoman Empire was on its knees by 1911, their goose was cooked.

[captnamazing]

Yea I think you guys are too used to how it's portrayed in movies. In real life, adrenaline hits and you don't even know if you're hit right away. You can only think about getting away. Also, blood doesn't necessarily splatter all over the place.

She didn't make it far.

how would rogean know this unless he had assassinated multipple people?

[iruinedyourday]

Soviet Union-1929
Cambodia-1956
Germany-1938
Ottoman Empire-1911
China-1935
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country."-Adolf Hitler
Btw, Gun Control is responsible for over 56 million deaths. Not here and there, but in massive executions.

hey if we're going all the way back, lets just burn everyone and say its witchcraft!

[Swish]

Yea I think you guys are too used to how it's portrayed in movies. In real life, adrenaline hits and you don't even know if you're hit right away. You can only think about getting away. Also, blood doesn't necessarily splatter all over the place.

She didn't make it far.

She didn't clutch where she got shot or anything, I've never been shot but people say it feels like being punched really hard. Not conspiracy theorizing yet but if I got shot in the chest/stomach area 4 times I'd expect some blood at least.

Link is dead on the vid, I dunno if there's any others left out there? Would like to see it again just to be sure.

[Ranndom]

Yea I think you guys are too used to how it's portrayed in movies. In real life, adrenaline hits and you don't even know if you're hit right away. You can only think about getting away. Also, blood doesn't necessarily splatter all over the place.

She didn't make it far.

nah its not movies for me at all. just questioning. It is a glock though...knowing that im surprised they died. suppose i'm just more used to seeing 5.56 and larger rounds being shot
And my blood comment was directed towards more to droplets than anything. Im really interested in the autopsys and what actually caused the deaths whether it be a vital or blood loss etc

[Ranndom]

hey if we're going all the way back, lets just burn everyone and say its witchcraft!

What do you think islamic extremists are doing to christians? Its a literal witch hunt over there.
History repeats itself dude.

[Rogean]

She didn't clutch where she got shot or anything, I've never been shot but people say it feels like being punched really hard. Not conspiracy theorizing yet but if I got shot in the chest/stomach area 4 times I'd expect some blood at least.

Link is dead on the vid, I dunno if there's any others left out there? Would like to see it again just to be sure.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=225_1440602498

Honestly, His first shot may have missed her, or hit her left arm.

http://i.imgur.com/0wfd6MD.png

The camera is to the right of the gun at this angle, so compensate for that. Anyone who's shot a gun will know that it's still easy to miss even at that range.

[Ranndom]

Arming yourself is succumbing to fear.

Un-arming your self is accepting your fate. Which from what ive seen, just means consensual suicide.

[iruinedyourday]

What do you think islamic extremists are doing to christians? Its a literal witch hunt over there.
History repeats itself dude.

I have zero interest in what is happening in that arena.

[Rogean]

nah its not movies for me at all. just questioning. It is a glock though...knowing that im surprised they died. suppose i'm just more used to seeing 5.56 and larger rounds being shot
And my blood comment was directed towards more to droplets than anything. Im really interested in the autopsys and what actually caused the deaths whether it be a vital or blood loss etc

There's a lot of different caliber glocks, ranging from 380 to 45. My guess it was a Glock 19, 9mm. Being shot with that caliber can have the exact effect I was talking about.. being in shock right away and not noticing, but within a few seconds, you will feel it and go down.

[iruinedyourday]

lol rog - I like to think if you just played here, you would be a devastating forum troll only to be contended against in pvp rnf.

[Ranndom]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=225_1440602498

Honestly, His first shot may have missed her, or hit her left arm.

http://i.imgur.com/0wfd6MD.png

The camera is to the right of the gun at this angle, so compensate for that. Anyone who's shot a gun will know that it's still easy to miss even at that range.

I think the first 3 shots would've connected at least. Id honestly take a serious guess that first shot hit her at the very least. Considering how fast she did fall, id say it was a body shot, probably lung.
I still can not believe that this guy can aim a firearm in clear peripheral of them and neither one of them have a clue. That is baffling

[Ranndom]

There's a lot of different caliber glocks, ranging from 380 to 45. My guess it was a Glock 19, 9mm. Being shot with that caliber can have the exact effect I was talking about.. being in shock right away and not noticing, but within a few seconds, you will feel it and go down.

Yea, Video at least is a prime reason why not to use a glock for self defense

[Rogean]

I think the first 3 shots would've connected at least. Id honestly take a serious guess that first shot hit her at the very least. Considering how fast she did fall, id say it was a body shot, probably lung.
I still can not believe that this guy can aim a firearm in clear peripheral of them and neither one of them have a clue. That is baffling

When you're on Live TV, especially for the first time (the interviewee who might have seem him), you're really focused and not concerned about surroundings.

[iruinedyourday]

lots of manifestos up in here today

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/write.ign.com/5126/2014/09/530-picard-yikes.jpg

[Oleris]

anyone else watch the shooters POV? I saw it on /r/watchpeopledie shits getitng taken down fast.

[Ambrotos]

Next off topic conversation will be about how Magic Johnson really didn't have HIV. It was that of Bush Sr convinced him to announce he had hiv and retired from basketball due to mob ties and other lizard people stuff. I mean how else would someone live 20 years with hiv, and even test negative for it now?

Please let us know what you uncover in these facts Swish. I think the truth will set us all free.

[Oleris]

When you're on Live TV, especially for the first time (the interviewee who might have seem him), you're really focused and not concerned about surroundings.

Hopefully we can ask Ryantwin20 on his experiences.

[Big_Japan]

ANYTHING you're bitching about cannot possibly measure up to the horror and pure evil that was the Holocaust and the individuals who orchestrated it.

hohohoho, it's just too rich

[Ranndom]

anyone else watch the shooters POV? I saw it on /r/watchpeopledie shits getitng taken down fast.

Lol, on an unrelated note. Walmart just announced theyll stop selling all "military style" rifles. AR-15's and semi auto's. Which is undoubtedly most of their firearm business.
Anyways ive seen it a couple times, its spread like wildfire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VveIbgkZUR0
Theyve only been shutting down the full videos so far interestingly enough.
Apparently they dont want you to see him pointing the gun and then lowering it when the cameraman pans out. Seeing if i can find a full version...which probably wont be on youtube.
And since when does youtube have a fucking "shocking and disgusting" policy? 90% of youtube is shocking and disgusting.

[Swish]

Journalists make great actors for scripts like this. Anyone remember the BBC reporter saying that WTC building 7 had collapsed when it was in the background behind her?

https://youtu.be/ltP2t9nq9fI?t=2m1s

[Itap]

Yea, Video at least is a prime reason why not to use a glock for self defense

The best gun for self defense is the one you are proficient with

[Rogean]

Yea, Video at least is a prime reason why not to use a glock for self defense

What does that have to do with Glock? As far as stopping power, Glock is no different than any other handgun using the same caliber...

[Rogean]

The best gun for self defense is the one you are proficient with

This.

Also, my carry gun is a Glock. :)

[Ranndom]

The best gun for self defense is the one you are proficient with

i remember a story about a woman whose house was broken into. She drew a revolver, low caliber, connected 6 shots around center mass. Robber then walked out of the house and drove ~5 miles before dying.
Proficiency wont always save you.

[Ranndom]

What does that have to do with Glock? As far as stopping power, Glock is no different than any other handgun using the same caliber...

I just really...really...Really hate glocks...haha

[Rogean]

i remember a story about a woman whose house was broken into. She drew a revolver, low caliber, connected 6 shots around center mass. Robber then walked out of the house and drove ~5 miles before dying.
Proficiency wont always save you.

Well no shit that's why you don't use a .22

[Ranndom]

Journalists make great actors for scripts like this. Anyone remember the BBC reporter saying that WTC building 7 had collapsed when it was in the background behind her?

https://youtu.be/ltP2t9nq9fI?t=2m1s

I still get a kick out of that. People dont realize theyre literally just actors. I really dont understand how anyone can ignore that clear as day evidence.

[Big_Japan]

i remember a story about a woman whose house was broken into. She drew a revolver, low caliber, connected 6 shots around center mass. Robber then walked out of the house and drove ~5 miles before dying.
Proficiency wont always save you.

home defense and trunk gun = shotgun with 00 buck / slugs

depending on a pistol to defend the castle is pretty sub-optimal even if you're a cowboy action shooter. Not like it takes more than 5 min to get proficient with a 12 gauge anyway.

[Ranndom]

Well no shit that's why you don't use a .22

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/georgia-mom-shoots-home-intruder-face-article-1.1234400
Heres the story.
My memory was a little off on the distance and shot placement, been quite a while.
but 5 shots to the face and neck with a .38 , and he was able to drive off.
Id expect that from a bear, minus the driving. But never a man, heh

[Itap]

i remember a story about a woman whose house was broken into. She drew a revolver, low caliber, connected 6 shots around center mass. Robber then walked out of the house and drove ~5 miles before dying.
Proficiency wont always save you.

"center mass"

I bet you she connected maybe 1 or 2 in the torso, the rest went into extremities.

Like i said before, the best gun for self defense is the one you shoot well. People always mock the .380, but I don't see anyone volunteering to get shot with one.

[Ranndom]

home defense and trunk gun = shotgun with 00 buck / slugs

depending on a pistol to defend the castle is pretty sub-optimal even if you're a cowboy action shooter. Not like it takes more than 5 min to get proficient with a 12 gauge anyway.

Get a 7+1 shotgun, load it with bird shot and little to no choke.
Proficiency at its finest. lol

[Big_Japan]

why didn't this retard get a gopro or a button cam? Or even some kind of mount for his cell phone to make it a button cam off of Amazon? Is he holding a camera phone in one hand and a pistol in the other?

shit video. I'll lend my gopro if any of yall need it for something like this, don't embarrass yourself.

[Ranndom]

"center mass"

I bet you she connected maybe 1 or 2 in the torso, the rest went into extremities.

Like i said before, the best gun for self defense is the one you shoot well. People always mock the .380, but I don't see anyone volunteering to get shot with one.

Corrected myself in recent comment. 5 shots to the face and neck with .380
Memory on the event had faded over time

[Ranndom]

why didn't this retard get a gopro or a button cam? Or even some kind of mount for his cell phone to make it a button cam off of Amazon? Is he holding a camera phone in one hand and a pistol in the other?

shit video. I'll lend my gopro if any of yall need it for something like this, don't embarrass yourself.

Would lending a camera for the intent of recording a murder be considered an accessory?
Thatd be an interesting one to argue in court

[Big_Japan]

Would lending a camera for the intent of recording a murder be considered an accessory?
Thatd be an interesting one to argue in court

prolly get "charged" as a terrorist at that point for planning to use media, and just drone striked sans-court

[iruinedyourday]

When you're on Live TV, especially for the first time (the interviewee who might have seem him), you're really focused and not concerned about surroundings.

Ive been paying attention to how often I am unaware of my surroundings.. if I had to be keeping a watchful eye for a shooter at all times, life would get boring, pretty fucking fast.

On that note, imagine watching a news interview where they were watching for gun men at all times lawl

http://i.imgur.com/uPA3Jg5.gif?1

[Ranndom]

Ive been paying attention to how often I am unaware of my surroundings.. if I had to be keeping a watchful eye for a shooter at all times, life would get boring, pretty fucking fast.

On that note, imagine watching a news interview where they were watching for gun men at all times lawl

http://i.imgur.com/uPA3Jg5.gif?1

Im always aware of my surroundings. I dont like being surprised at all. If you come within eyesight of me chances are im gonna glance at you just to get a read.

[iruinedyourday]

Im always aware of my surroundings. I dont like being surprised at all. If you come within eyesight of me chances are im gonna glance at you just to get a read.

literately every time someone is behind you they could have killed you...

and you must be a person who has never had the experience of being scared or startled by any one else ever.. which is both sad, and unbelievable...

[Big_Japan]

i always get tunnel vision in front of a TV camera or podium regardless of how tuned my third eye is

Also if you watch the video, the woman being interviewed has her hair dangling down over the area of her peripheral that would have allowed her to see the gun brandish.

[Ranndom]

literately every time someone is behind you they could have killed you...

and you must be a person who has never had the experience of being scared or startled by any one else ever.. which is both sad, and unbelievable...

Ive never been startled by a person, but i never really became aware of my surroundings like i am today until a bear snuck up on me while fishing. Now i always looks over my shoulder.

[Rogean]

I consider .380 and .38 Special still a step below 9mm in terms of stopping power.

[Ranndom]

I consider .380 and .38 Special still a step below 9mm in terms of stopping power.

But i mean with at least 2 shots to the head and neck, Youd think someone would at least drop from the impact or pain. Hell, little rocks hurt like hell going 50fps.

[iruinedyourday]

I consider .380 and .38 Special still a step below 9mm in terms of stopping power.

http://cdn2.crushable.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Britney-Spears-cringing-GIF.gif

[Rogean]

But i mean with at least 2 shots to the head and neck, Youd think someone would at least drop from the impact or pain. Hell, little rocks hurt like hell going 50fps.

Not if you're on drugs or alcohol. :)

[Rogean]

img

You disagree?

[Ranndom]

Not if you're on drugs or alcohol. :)

lol, i guess if you're in a hangover prone neighborhood you should upgrade to a 30-06

[iruinedyourday]

haha I have no clue about stopping power of guns but I dont run a forum for a free to play multiplayer game, so i can afford not to.

[Ranndom]

haha I have no clue about stopping power of guns but I dont run a forum for a free to play multiplayer game, so i can afford not to.

Its pretty basic stuff. Powder + Bullet Weight + Bullet Size, along with other variables.

[Nocsucow]

http://i.imgur.com/tP14nWD.jpg

[Ranndom]

http://i.imgur.com/tP14nWD.jpg

Laughed too much at that...

[Nocsucow]

http://i.imgur.com/0g2O6wp.jpg

[Ranndom]

http://i.imgur.com/0g2O6wp.jpg

To be fair, ive seen her report a couple times, she was quite the "character" when it came to racial discussion.

[iruinedyourday]

I hate to post this on the internet, but afa home defense goes.. I would argue a shotgun with 'illegal' modifications to make it easy to move around indoors, loaded with less than lethal rounds would be ideal. This can prevent bullets from killing your neighbor and hopefully not end some misguided teenagers life who wanted to steel $40 worth of my wife's beanie baby collection while he thought we were away from the house so he could get high, an effect of youths having nobody to turn to talk to in this nation if they come from a less than ideal family situation and need guidance. Also the sound of a shotgun cocking will make most trespassers flee pretty quickly.

It all comes down to one thing, if you are ok with killing people for any reason. I'm one of those people you guys love to hate, that cant get behind that.

Luckily for my cause, it will win out, our liberal values ALWAYS do.. they just take time, time for your children & grandchildren to grow up and continue to make the world a better place than it was a generation before them.

PS rog I was just cringing at our leader talking about guns in relation to the human body and how bullets affect people on impact lol

http://emojipedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/160x160x51-grimacing-face.png.pagespeed.ic.HAec7x-XeI.jpg

[dafier]

But i mean with at least 2 shots to the head and neck, Youd think someone would at least drop from the impact or pain. Hell, little rocks hurt like hell going 50fps.

Last Deer I got:

The bullet went directly through the lung, hit the bottom part of the heart and through the other lung.

The deer jumped up and hopped up the hill for about 10 seconds trying to flee before it stiffened and fell.

Sorry about being graphic, but ya the only time you would see someone or something drop right away is if you severed a spine or tendons...and the list goes on.

EDIT:

First deer I got I shot in the spine right at the shoulder blades. I disabled it's 2 front legs immediately and it ran/hopped off on its back legs.

[Rogean]

Or a headshot. If it's strong enough to go through the skull (some animals have thick skulls).

[Nocsucow]

Last Deer I got:

The bullet went directly through the lung, hit the bottom part of the heart and through the other lung.

The deer jumped up and hopped up the hill for about 10 seconds trying to flee before it stiffened and fell.

Sorry about being graphic, but ya the only time you would see someone or something drop right away is if you severed a spine or tendons...and the list goes on.

I've seen this plenty of times... even lost one before and didn't find it for a few days because a ran so far away

[Ranndom]

I hate to post this on the internet, but afa home defense goes.. I would argue a shotgun with 'illegal' modifications to make it easy to move around indoors, loaded with less than lethal rounds would be ideal. This can prevent bullets from killing your neighbor and hopefully not end some misguided teenagers life who wanted to steel $40 worth of my wife's beanie baby collection while he thought we were away from the house so he could get high, an effect of youths having nobody to turn to talk to in this nation if they come from a less than ideal family situation and need guidance. Also the sound of a shotgun cocking will make most trespassers flee pretty quickly.

It all comes down to one thing, if you are ok with killing people for any reason. I'm one of those people you guys love to hate, that cant get behind that.

Luckily for my cause, it will win out, our liberal values ALWAYS do.. they just take time, time for your children & grandchildren to grow up and continue to make the world a better place than it was a generation before them.

PS rog I was just cringing at our leader talking about guns in relation to the human body and how bullets affect people on impact lol

http://emojipedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/160x160x51-grimacing-face.png.pagespeed.ic.HAec7x-XeI.jpg

In Virginia if someone breaks into my house and i do anything other than help them or kill them, they can sue me and are guaranteed to win.

[dafier]

I've seen this plenty of times... even lost one before and didn't find it for a few days because a ran so far away

If you put a hole in it's heart then it won't be able to keep pressure throughout its body, but if you hit 1 lung...ya, those things will go....and fast.

Best thing to do is pull that bolt back asap, and load another and DO NOT GET BUCK FEVER!

[dafier]

Or a headshot. If it's strong enough to go through the skull (some animals have thick skulls).

I heard from a buddy that a friend of his shot a black bear at about 200 yards with a 300 Win Mag. Damn bear ran off.

He followed, shot and killed it and found that the first shot hit the forehead and skinned along the bone instead of penetrating. :(

That is sad.

[Ranndom]

If you put a hole in it's heart then it won't be able to keep pressure throughout its body, but if you hit 1 lung...ya, those things will go....and fast.

Best thing to do is pull that bolt back asap, and load another and DO NOT GET BUCK FEVER!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVRS0gJwiZw
You'll likely destroy most or all of the meat...But at least they wont run

[dafier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVRS0gJwiZw
You'll likely destroy most or all of the meat...But at least they wont run

Ah...

I hunt for meat. No trophy for me.

[Ranndom]

I heard from a buddy that a friend of his shot a black bear at about 200 yards with a 300 Win Mag. Damn bear ran off.

He followed, shot and killed it and found that the first shot hit the forehead and skinned along the bone instead of penetrating. :(

That is sad.

Theres an old story about a hiker shooting a black bear in the skull 8 times with a pistol and knocking it unconscious and not a single bullet actually penetrated its skull.

[dafier]

I hope I NEVER face a bear like that. Thank God the hiker was able to at least knock it unconscious. Holy smokes that would be scary!

[iruinedyourday]

Theres an old story about a hiker shooting a black bear in the skull 8 times with a pistol and knocking it unconscious and not a single bullet actually penetrated its skull.

that was a story told to kids in The Great Outdoors to scare them to sleep...

http://i.imgur.com/icXm0Tx.gif

[Ranndom]

that was a story told to kids in The Great Outdoors to scare them to sleep...

http://i.imgur.com/icXm0Tx.gif

i dont see how knocking it unconscious would be a scary story. Looking back to my childhood....Id just want to go out and duplicate it...lol

[Fame]

You need significant firepower to down a bear in the wild

[iruinedyourday]

i dont see how knocking it unconscious would be a scary story. Looking back to my childhood....Id just want to go out and duplicate it...lol

then u sir should rent the great out doors tonight and have yourself a grand old time.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I have zero interest in what is happening in that arena.
Typical feminist
I hate to post this on the internet, but afa home defense goes.. I would argue a shotgun with 'illegal' modifications to make it easy to move around indoors, loaded with less than lethal rounds would be ideal. This can prevent bullets from killing your neighbor and hopefully not end some misguided teenagers life who wanted to steel $40 worth of my wife's beanie baby collection while he thought we were away from the house so he could get high, an effect of youths having nobody to turn to talk to in this nation if they come from a less than ideal family situation and need guidance. Also the sound of a shotgun cocking will make most trespassers flee pretty quickly.

It all comes down to one thing, if you are ok with killing people for any reason. I'm one of those people you guys love to hate, that cant get behind that.

Luckily for my cause, it will win out, our liberal values ALWAYS do.. they just take time, time for your children & grandchildren to grow up and continue to make the world a better place than it was a generation before them.

PS rog I was just cringing at our leader talking about guns in relation to the human body and how bullets affect people on impact lol

This story is almost as devoid of reality or rationality as that story I read about the rib woman who was convinced by a snake to do the 'don't do' thing that was placed there by the omni benevolent being who seems to love dishing out vengeance.

[iruinedyourday]

oh shit i forgot about you.

annnd....

http://galeri7.uludagsozluk.com/218/i-m-out_301876.jpg

[Big_Japan]

I hate to post this on the internet, but afa home defense goes.. I would argue a shotgun with 'illegal' modifications to make it easy to move around indoors, loaded with less than lethal rounds would be ideal. This can prevent bullets from killing your neighbor and hopefully not end some misguided teenagers life who wanted to steel $40 worth of my wife's beanie baby collection while he thought we were away from the house so he could get high, an effect of youths having nobody to turn to talk to in this nation if they come from a less than ideal family situation and need guidance. Also the sound of a shotgun cocking will make most trespassers flee pretty quickly.

It all comes down to one thing, if you are ok with killing people for any reason. I'm one of those people you guys love to hate, that cant get behind that.

Luckily for my cause, it will win out, our liberal values ALWAYS do.. they just take time, time for your children & grandchildren to grow up and continue to make the world a better place than it was a generation before them.

PS rog I was just cringing at our leader talking about guns in relation to the human body and how bullets affect people on impact lol

http://emojipedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/160x160x51-grimacing-face.png.pagespeed.ic.HAec7x-XeI.jpg

you were all about gun control in that other thread a while back right? Not surprised you would advocate something as misinformed as "shoot to maim".

remington 870 loaded with 1oz slugs for my "misguided teenagers". The best that poor child is going to get from me is the first round I load (00 buck, less penetration), but if he doesn't drop to his knees and convincingly beg for mercy after that, (or if he is armed regardless of how convincingly he begs), there'll be a nasty mess to pick up.

It's just the humane thing to do. You wouldn't torture a rabid dog by shooting its legs off with birdshot, would you?

The justice system is toothless for fear of harming innocent men, and rightfully so. But if I find someone in the middle of committing an act of violence against my household or family, they can be culled with 100% certainty that there will be no miscarriage of justice.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

oh shit i forgot about you.

annnd....

http://galeri7.uludagsozluk.com/218/i-m-out_301876.jpg

That's all it takes these days?

Fucking coward.

How's the coal burning business?

[iruinedyourday]

lol have fun trying to have a logical argument with me on the p99 forums, Big_Jered

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

"Why don't they just shoot out his legs?"
-iruinedyourday

[Big_Japan]

lol have fun trying to have a logical argument with me on the p99 forums, Big_Jered

look, i found a very relevant reddit you might be capable of understanding

http://i58.tinypic.com/1zl3seb.jpg

[iruinedyourday]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/PprHjp7DCw4BW/200_s.gif

[Big_Japan]

broken non-animated tumblr gif

http://i60.tinypic.com/oqvtwy.png

[iruinedyourday]

no, youve just put me in permanent cringe..

[Big_Japan]

by the way, why do all tumblr gifs seem to have a distinctive style of coloration? Is there a custom compression that they run on them or something? They all have a washed out quality more obvious than a watermark

serious question

[iruinedyourday]

One of the biggest innovations in the history of the Internet was the ability to integrate photographs and other illustrations with text on a web page. The illustrations come in the form of bitmap files. A bitmap file simply describes the color of each pixel in the image. To decrease the file size of these bitmap images, several different techniques are used to compress the image data. Typically, Web sites post these sorts of images as either JPEG files or GIF files.

Animation is just a series of still images shown in sequence, so the most obvious way to add animation to a Web site is to post a series of bitmap images that the user's browser displays in sequence. This sort of animation, called GIF animation, or GIF89, was the first Web animation to catch on, and it is still very popular today.

The main advantages of GIF animation are that it is incredibly simple to work with and it is automatically recognizable to most Web browsers. With a shareware program, such as GIF construction set for Windows or GifBuilder for Macintosh, all you have to do is provide the individual bitmap images that make up the frames of your animation. You then post the file and code the tag for the image, just as you would with an ordinary static GIF.

The disadvantage is that you have to keep the animation pretty simple to keep the file size down. After all, each frame is a full bitmap image. Four simple frames transmit very easily to most users, but when you get up to something like 20 frames, your file size could be too big. And you can't even accomplish very much with 20 frames -- the fluid animation we see in movies includes at least 24 still images every second -- so animated GIFs are fairly limited. To create a movie of any substantial length, you have to make pretty big jumps between each frame, which means the animation is not very fluid, as you can see in the example below:

http://media.giphy.com/media/KYNywoibU1PQ4/giphy.gif

[Big_Japan]

That's cool, but how is it that every gif lifted from tumblr blatantly appears to be lifted from tumblr even without context? Is it the cancerous similarities between the site's users or is there a technical reason?

[iruinedyourday]

http://media.giphy.com/media/KYNywoibU1PQ4/giphy.gif

[Big_Japan]

that face when ur on ur period and ur dankest mayms are actually movie advertisements someone received shekels to spam on tumblr

http://i61.tinypic.com/qss9zb.png

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Sums up modern feminism in one image pretty much. Everything is 'problematic' except when a female has zero sense of decency.

[Rogean]

In some states (like mine) you cannot use lethal force to defend property. Someone robbing your house? Can't shoot them. Only when your own life is threatened by equally lethal force can you use a gun to defend yourself.

[Rogean]

Yet in some states there have been people shot and killed on someone's porch because they broke down and needed help, and shooter wasn't charged.

[Swish]

In some states (like mine) you cannot use lethal force to defend property. Someone robbing your house? Can't shoot them. Only when your own life is threatened by equally lethal force can you use a gun to defend yourself.

That's the same in England. You can be prosecuted for assaulting someone committing an act of burglary... stupid shit.

[Pokesan]

In some states (like mine) you cannot use lethal force to defend property. Someone robbing your house? Can't shoot them. Only when your own life is threatened by equally lethal force can you use a gun to defend yourself.

would you murder someone over a television?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I do not usually post on this forum but saw the thread from the main window, and I just want to say, theories and commentary aside, I am tired of hearing of killings like this. I refuse to get desensitized. Two lives taken. Countless other lives now deeply and forever wounded by such madness. I refuse to get desensitized to it.

That's all. Some very, very, very real pain is happening tonight and tomorrow and for the rest of their lives for some people tonight, and I refused to get desensitized. Humanity as a whole has to solve this problem someday, somehow. But for now: this is just terrible, and that is all I have to say.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

would you murder someone over a television?

"Murder"

[MrSparkle001]

would you murder someone over a television?

Yep. You break into my home I'm shooting you. Theoretically, if I had a gun, which I may or may not.

[Big_Japan]

Wouldn't murder someone over a TV, but I would to kill defend myself against an unknown intruder.

The only one risking somebody getting murdered over a TV is the person who resorts to violence to acquire a TV.

[Orruar]

would you murder someone over a television?

As we all know, the first thing someone does after kicking down your front door is politely submit a list of items he wishes to take from you. You then have the customary 2 minute period to review the list and submit a counter-offer. The counter-offer may contain sexual favors, but some states restrict the nature of these favors, particularly for male-male encounters. If the counter-offer is rejected outright, a best of 5 set of paper/rock/scissors is used to determine the winner.

[Rogean]

Hi Orruar

[iruinedyourday]

As we all know, the first thing someone does after kicking down your front door is politely submit a list of items he wishes to take from you. You then have the customary 2 minute period to review the list and submit a counter-offer. The counter-offer may contain sexual favors, but some states restrict the nature of these favors, particularly for male-male encounters. If the counter-offer is rejected outright, a best of 5 set of paper/rock/scissors is used to determine the winner.

He was really there just to loot and destroy an item off a corpse with 10 minuets left on it.

[MrSparkle001]

Wouldn't murder someone over a TV, but I would to kill defend myself against an unknown intruder.

The only one risking somebody getting murdered over a TV is the person who resorts to violence to acquire a TV.

Yeah let me clarify that if I see someone stealing a TV I'm not shooting him but if they break into my home I am.

[bubur]

looks like an amateur college kid project

[Pokesan]

you probably shouldn't be willing to murder someone over a television

that's just IMO though

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

you probably shouldn't be willing to murder someone over a television

that's just IMO though

If they are invading my home? Without hesitation or an ounce of remorse.
that's just IMO though.

[maskedmelon]

you probably shouldn't be willing to murder someone over a television

that's just IMO though

This is true.

Killing someone who has invaded your home is generally not recognized as murder though. And for good reason. Why should any victim be forced bear the risk of an aggressive act perpetrated by someone else? The problem is uncertainty. First the invaders motives are unknown. Second even benign motives may change upon their discovery. The invader runs the risk of prosecution if caught, so the stakes are raised in any encounter. That makes the discoverer a threat to the invader whether armed or not. Inaction by the discoverer could result in tragedy. Of course the counter argument is that action could also result in tragedy. Tragedy is tragedy, plain and simple. If we are forced to favor one side or the other though (which we are), who ought we favor? The person who has already suffered an act of aggression? Or, the person who has perpetrated that act?

[dafier]

If they are invading my home? Without hesitation or an ounce of remorse.
that's just IMO though.

A man's home is his castle. In his castle he has beloved items, whether they be materialistic or living beings.

If a person makes the choice to break laws by invading, then they've made a choice which is not rational nor legal.

Motive.....it's all about motive.

[dafier]

In some states (like mine) you cannot use lethal force to defend property. Someone robbing your house? Can't shoot them. Only when your own life is threatened by equally lethal force can you use a gun to defend yourself.

Even in a state like yours...

A good lawyer and some money can change the result of the case.

[MrSparkle001]

Even in a state like yours...

A good lawyer and some money can change the result of the case.

I was on a jury where a poor guy with average at best representation was on trial for merely defending himself by using a threat of deadly force. Just a threat, no shots ever fired.

We let him go on all but one very obvious and fairly minor charge.

Why? Well even though NJ has strict laws about using a threat of deadly force in self defense, we the jury said "fuck that we aren't putting this guy in jail for defending himself. He never even fired a shot." It was unanimous.

Prosecutor was pissed as hell, defense was ecstatic and the poor guy would not stop thanking us.

Felt good.

Sometimes you can't take the law literally as it's written, like the prosecutor wanted us to.

[Rogean]

I was on a jury where a poor guy with average at best representation was on trial for merely defending himself by using a threat of deadly force. Just a threat, no shots ever fired.

We let him go on all but one very obvious and fairly minor charge.

Why? Well even though NJ has strict laws about using a threat of deadly force in self defense, we the jury said "fuck that we aren't putting this guy in jail for defending himself. He never even fired a shot." It was unanimous.

Prosecutor was pissed as hell, defense was ecstatic and the poor guy would not stop thanking us.

Felt good.

Sometimes you can't take the law literally as it's written, like the prosecutor wanted us to.

Pretty much. The instructors around here teach you that you should only draw your weapon if you intend to use it. You can not use it to deescalate a situation. In some states you can draw your gun to stop a crime, and hold them until police arrive. Perp gets arrested, cops thank you, everyone goes home happy. Around here, cops show up and arrest you for brandishing and assault with a deadly weapon.

[Secrets]

Pretty much. The instructors around here teach you that you should only draw your weapon if you intend to use it. You can not use it to deescalate a situation. In some states you can draw your gun to stop a crime, and hold them until police arrive. Perp gets arrested, cops thank you, everyone goes home happy. Around here, cops show up and arrest you for brandishing and assault with a deadly weapon.

My deadly weapon is my penis. Oddly enough, I can still get arrested for brandishing it in public.

[Patriam1066]

I was on a jury where a poor guy with average at best representation was on trial for merely defending himself by using a threat of deadly force. Just a threat, no shots ever fired.

We let him go on all but one very obvious and fairly minor charge.

Why? Well even though NJ has strict laws about using a threat of deadly force in self defense, we the jury said "fuck that we aren't putting this guy in jail for defending himself. He never even fired a shot." It was unanimous.

Prosecutor was pissed as hell, defense was ecstatic and the poor guy would not stop thanking us.

Felt good.

Sometimes you can't take the law literally as it's written, like the prosecutor wanted us to.

http://youtu.be/Oi3Hyxuf5AE

[dafier]

My deadly weapon is my penis. Oddly enough, I can still get arrested for brandishing it in public.

2" of death and destruction you're holding there! You should just keep it holstered.

Don't get me wrong, even a little weapon as such can kill and create babies.

[SlankyLanky]

damn...this guy was a regular at a bar i used to goto alot. pretty sure my partner has photos of us drinking together. he was a serious conspiracy nut.

[MrSparkle001]

Pretty much. The instructors around here teach you that you should only draw your weapon if you intend to use it. You can not use it to deescalate a situation. In some states you can draw your gun to stop a crime, and hold them until police arrive. Perp gets arrested, cops thank you, everyone goes home happy. Around here, cops show up and arrest you for brandishing and assault with a deadly weapon.

In the case I was on the guy was approached in his car by someone holding a blunt instrument, after an altercation at an intersection that quickly escalated. He was afraid and pointed an unregistered gun at him which made him back off. He was an older guy, mild-mannered and uneducated. Nothing about him said "violent criminal".

Yeah he had an unregistered gun but none of us thought the guy should get a felony conviction and prison time for pointing it at a guy coming at him with a blunt weapon in his hand.

Now if he shot the guy we have a whole different situation.

[Snapple]

Not if you're in a big city (London, Manchester, Birmingham)


"Recorded gun and knife enabled offences in London account for about 2% of total recorded crime"

U SRS?

[Swish]

"Recorded gun and knife enabled offences in London account for about 2% of total recorded crime"

U SRS?

Link for that?

You can dwarf any crime stat if you're including theft, rape, fraud, etc etc. The police love to cover their issues with statistics.

There's a big demand for things like converted replica weapons in the cities.

[Caladbolg]

Supposed shooter is a light skinned black man, shooter in video is clearly white.
Bodies are still warm, and suddenly every politician has an empty schedule and has speeches prepared to spread the gun control agenda.
Another event just going to be used to twist and divide the American people into hating each other instead of the government.
Just an fyi, gun control doesn't work. And when it does work, You're on your way to Treblinka or Belzec. Or perhaps you'll be lucky and sent to Auschwitz II.


Aside from the "definitely white shooter" thing, you're right. He was black but light skinned in the video I saw from the news, and also from his 1st person camera that he was apparently streaming.

Side by side video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfT5AfDErRo&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DF fT5AfDErRo&has_verified=1) <--- NSFW due to graphic nature.


From his perspective (video on the right) you can see that the reporter looks over at him while he has the gun pointed at her and doesn't respond. The woman being interviewed would have seen him pointing a gun in her peripheral. He doesn't begin firing until the news cameraman pans over to her, and when he does shoot, he's aiming slightly to the left (this is done even with blanks at that range to avoid bits of potential shrapnel). The camerawoman's reaction seems rehearsed and insincere, and she didn't even stumble as she fled despite being shot several times in the chest? I can't be certain, and I doubt anyone ever will be given the way the US government operates, but I believe there's a good reason so many people are questioning the validity of this incident.


In addition, the white house was already prepared with an anti-gun speech, and Operation Jade Helm 15 (which seems to be a martial law deployment test run) is just about to wrap up on the 15th of next month.


I think the government is beginning to get sloppy.

[Orruar]

"Recorded gun and knife enabled offences in London account for about 2% of total recorded crime"

U SRS?

While the gun-related murder rate is higher in America than Europe, if you break it down by race, you find that white America is actually in line with most of Europe, which is pretty remarkable considering how many guns we have. We don't really have a gun a problem, we have a black problem.

[Swish]

While the gun-related murder rate is higher in America than Europe, if you break it down by race, you find that white America is actually in line with most of Europe, which is pretty remarkable considering how many guns we have. We don't really have a gun a problem, we have a black problem.

Prison demographics reflect that, but I'd be labeled racist for pointing out 'uncomfortable' statistics.

[Thulghor]

We have a mental health and social class problem (border lining on caste system and corporate oligarchy). Not specifically a "black problem." People of all fruity flavors commit violent crimes.

Also, there is an incentive system for the prison industry to incarcerate people.

[Pokesan]

While the gun-related murder rate is higher in America than Europe, if you break it down by race, you find that white America is actually in line with most of Europe, which is pretty remarkable considering how many guns we have. We don't really have a gun a problem, we have a black problem.

this is a new record. a p1999 social issues thread took NINETEEN pages, you heard me right - NINETEEN PAGES until some racist dipshit chimed in with his terrible opinion.

Also, source plz.

[Itap]

While the gun-related murder rate is higher in America than Europe, if you break it down by race, you find that white America is actually in line with most of Europe, which is pretty remarkable considering how many guns we have. We don't really have a gun a problem, we have a black problem.

Um, I think it's more of a mental health problem. As in the untreated and undiagnosed.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

this is a new record. a p1999 social issues thread took NINETEEN pages, you heard me right - NINETEEN PAGES until some racist dipshit chimed in with his terrible opinion.

Also, source plz.

Can't have wrongthink now can we?
http://www.phibetaiota.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/thought-police.jpg

[Big_Japan]

this is a new record. a p1999 social issues thread took NINETEEN pages, you heard me right - NINETEEN PAGES until some racist dipshit chimed in with his terrible opinion.

Also, source plz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqIsc8ooXug

[Luminari]

Anyone that thinks this shooting actually happened is a complete moron. It's so blatantly a hoax it's ridiculous.

[Swish]

Anyone that thinks this shooting actually happened is a complete moron. It's so blatantly a hoax it's ridiculous.

Imagine this. There's no video evidence of anything other than the news cameraman's camera which didn't catch anything except the sound of the shots being fired.

Can they force public opinion to change gun laws based on just that? Probably not. The 'evidence' is certainly convenient.

[Ranndom]

Aside from the "definitely white shooter" thing, you're right. He was black but light skinned in the video I saw from the news, and also from his 1st person camera that he was apparently streaming.

Side by side video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfT5AfDErRo&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DF fT5AfDErRo&has_verified=1) <--- NSFW due to graphic nature.


From his perspective (video on the right) you can see that the reporter looks over at him while he has the gun pointed at her and doesn't respond. The woman being interviewed would have seen him pointing a gun in her peripheral. He doesn't begin firing until the news cameraman pans over to her, and when he does shoot, he's aiming slightly to the left (this is done even with blanks at that range to avoid bits of potential shrapnel). The camerawoman's reaction seems rehearsed and insincere, and she didn't even stumble as she fled despite being shot several times in the chest? I can't be certain, and I doubt anyone ever will be given the way the US government operates, but I believe there's a good reason so many people are questioning the validity of this incident.


In addition, the white house was already prepared with an anti-gun speech, and Operation Jade Helm 15 (which seems to be a martial law deployment test run) is just about to wrap up on the 15th of next month.


I think the government is beginning to get sloppy.

Go look at all the "witnesses" and "family"
Most/All will have acting backgrounds. Little to No remorse. A little thing called Duping delight (where people who are lying about something "serious" cant help but laugh. You'll notice this a lot. They'll look away from the camera, smirk, etc while theyre in the middle of a sentence about their dead relative who died just hours ago)I guarantee it. Another thing you'll notice a lot is the colors green and purple. Couldn't tell you why, but they love green and purple when they're lying.
Sandy Hoax, All actors.
Every single one of the theater shootings, More and more actors.
Hell, 9/11 even had actors, really shitty ones at that.
Boston Bombing, Actors.
And countless other events.
Its a reoccurring pattern in every event and it only adds to the suspicion when they only interview actors that just happened to be there.
Many of them btw, have just happened to be at 2 or sometimes even 3+ of these "major events"
Now tell me, what are the chances of multiple nobodies with acting backgrounds who apparently travel the states not only witness one of these, but multiple? Its almost like they were sent there, like its their job! /gasp

[Ranndom]

While the gun-related murder rate is higher in America than Europe, if you break it down by race, you find that white America is actually in line with most of Europe, which is pretty remarkable considering how many guns we have. We don't really have a gun a problem, we have a black problem.

funny how less than 15% of the population can make up 85+% of the crime, and instead of calling it for what it is, a black problem, its deemed irrelevant and racist and blame it on tools. Cuz you know, that Crips gun totally just strolled into a blood neighborhood with no person holding it and shot some dudes up and then walked itself out

[Bigtokes]

This is all another fake shooting like Sandy Hook. Yeah, the guys daughter gets killed and he is laughing. The hand that shoots the woman in this make up is clearly white. Then, all of a sudden...GUN CONTROL BLAH BLAH BLAH.

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[Ranndom]

We have a mental health and social class problem (border lining on caste system and corporate oligarchy). Not specifically a "black problem." People of all fruity flavors commit violent crimes.

Also, there is an incentive system for the prison industry to incarcerate people.

Less than 15% of the population makes up 85%+ of the crime. Its a black problem. A very profitable "problem" for the prison systems which is why police have gotten so bad

[Ranndom]

This is all another fake shooting like Sandy Hook. Yeah, the guys daughter gets killed and he is laughing. The hand that shoots the woman in this make up is clearly white. Then, all of a sudden...GUN CONTROL BLAH BLAH BLAH.

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I was wrong on the hand thing. Its definitely a light skinned guy. between my angle of the screen and the videos lighting it just looked white

[Bigtokes]

I was wrong on the hand thing. Its definitely a light skinned guy. between my angle of the screen and the videos lighting it just looked white

I'm Mr. Meseeks, look at me!

Notice how the cameraman is not even pointing the camera at the people...while they are INTERVIEWING!

Also, Why did the BF send a tweet that the girl was dead @ 6:37 when she was killed at 6:46?

Also...HOW the hell did NOBODY see this guy out of the corner of their eye?

Why was NOBODY else in the area?

This is so fake...and people will believe everything

[Ranndom]

Imagine this. There's no video evidence of anything other than the news cameraman's camera which didn't catch anything except the sound of the shots being fired.

Can they force public opinion to change gun laws based on just that? Probably not. The 'evidence' is certainly convenient.

In the live footage you can actually see shell casings bounce around. So at the very least the footage is real and at least blanks were used.
Is this was a staged event, they've stepped up their game. At least is wasn't as horrible as the girl with the uzi footage, Fake audio, actions an instructor would NEVER do on a range that could cost him his job.
The one thing i don't understand though, if this guy wanted it aired so badly he actually waited for the cameraman to pan over, why would he not record the bodies?

[Ranndom]

I'm Mr. Meseeks, look at me!

Notice how the cameraman is not even pointing the camera at the people...while they are INTERVIEWING!

Also, Why did the BF send a tweet that the girl was dead @ 6:37 when she was killed at 6:46?

Also...HOW the hell did NOBODY see this guy out of the corner of their eye?

Why was NOBODY else in the area?

This is so fake...and people will believe everything

I heard about the tweet thing, never looked into it.
But its nothing new, remember WTC7? lol

[Bigtokes]

I heard about the tweet thing, never looked into it.
But its nothing new, remember WTC7? lol

People sometimes ask...well how can people just disappear? People go into witness protection all the time. If these two people moved to S. America or something, who would even know who they are?

I'm sure all of these "families" are now living it up somewhere on the beach

[Swish]

Yeah I hadn't seen the footage from the news camera until now.

For being dead the cameraman sure died quietly, didn't he?

[Ranndom]

Yeah I hadn't seen the footage from the news camera until now.

For being dead the cameraman sure died quietly, didn't he?

In the cellphone footage you can hear a "AGUGHUGFHNDFNDGUNHOGC" type yell.

[Ranndom]

People sometimes ask...well how can people just disappear? People go into witness protection all the time. If these two people moved to S. America or something, who would even know who they are?

I'm sure all of these "families" are now living it up somewhere on the beach

Lol did you see how after sandy hook every "family" involved had their houses payed off on the same day?

[Bigtokes]

Lol did you see how after sandy hook every "family" involved had their houses payed off on the same day?

Did not know that...wow.

[Ranndom]

Did not know that...wow.

Other funny thing about sandy hook was the christmas trees that were donated by some random guy in another state were hidden behind the fire dept that day before it happened. Just so happened to be the exact amount of victims.

[Swish]

In the cellphone footage you can hear a "AGUGHUGFHNDFNDGUNHOGC" type yell.

Maybe he's just drowned out by the screaming, I can't hear it too well :/

[Orruar]

Lol did you see how after sandy hook every "family" involved had their houses payed off on the same day?

Got a link to some evidence for that?

Didn't think so.

[Ranndom]

Got a link to some evidence for that?

Didn't think so.
https://www.intellihub.com/newtown-tax-assessors-database-whole-town-sandy-hook-bought-christmas-day-2009-says-investigator/
The guy in this video breaks it down decently.
Basically ~35 properties were transferred to people for a total of 0 dollars, Including Gene Rosen

[Ranndom]

Maybe he's just drowned out by the screaming, I can't hear it too well :/

Hard to say if the footage of it is still out there. I was able to view the very first uploads of it since i go to work at 4 am

[Caladbolg]

Go look at all the "witnesses" and "family"
Most/All will have acting backgrounds. Little to No remorse. A little thing called Duping delight (where people who are lying about something "serious" cant help but laugh. You'll notice this a lot. They'll look away from the camera, smirk, etc while theyre in the middle of a sentence about their dead relative who died just hours ago)I guarantee it. Another thing you'll notice a lot is the colors green and purple. Couldn't tell you why, but they love green and purple when they're lying.
Sandy Hoax, All actors.
Every single one of the theater shootings, More and more actors.
Hell, 9/11 even had actors, really shitty ones at that.
Boston Bombing, Actors.
And countless other events.
Its a reoccurring pattern in every event and it only adds to the suspicion when they only interview actors that just happened to be there.
Many of them btw, have just happened to be at 2 or sometimes even 3+ of these "major events"
Now tell me, what are the chances of multiple nobodies with acting backgrounds who apparently travel the states not only witness one of these, but multiple? Its almost like they were sent there, like its their job! /gasp

Oh I don't doubt it. One instance of crisis actors that really stands out in my mind is from the boston bombing. She's doing pretty well for having been killed during the alleged Sandy Hook shooting (that didn't even happen at Sandy Hook Elementary. It was a catholic school nearby)https://justicesandyhook.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/hochsprungboston.jpg


All of these things precede some sort of push by the government to gain sympathy for whatever agenda they have.

This most recent incident, combined with the BLM riots and the threat of them spreading, the winding down of Jade Helm, and the already prepared speech that proceeded the shooting in Virginia, I'm a bit worried what they're planning. They're actually trying to start a race war for some political agenda. It makes me feel a little better that they're being so sloppy about it though. It kind of seems like they want to incite riots everywhere and disarm everyone who legally owns a gun so that the military 'has to move in and control the situations'. I'm not sure why though. Most everyone is already obedient and pays their taxes.

[MrSparkle001]

Imagine this. There's no video evidence of anything other than the news cameraman's camera which didn't catch anything except the sound of the shots being fired.

Can they force public opinion to change gun laws based on just that? Probably not. The 'evidence' is certainly convenient.

I have footage of the gunman's GoPro. You see him point the pistol and fire. It's very real.

What makes no sense, at first, is how nobody saw him. Then I thought maybe they were remaining professional and not turning their attention on a bystander. Live news casts always attract bystanders so they're probably used to it and know to ignore them.

That's just my guess though.

Gun laws will be changed though. There will be a law passed for universal background checks at the least. Even the victim's father doesn't want to go farther than that. The bigger problem though is preventing mentally ill people who aren't diagnosed from buying a gun. A background check will not reveal their mental issues if they've never been diagnosed.

[Ranndom]

BLM and all the other black groups out there are funded by george soros who undoubtedly takes money and orders from the government.
In fact, one of the recent protests, which city escapes me, after the original protest (riot) they rioted again because they didnt get paid.
The racial card has always been in the governments back pocket. Theyve saved it all these years just incase they needed to distract the people from the government so we dont overthrow it.
Their left hand has a puppet, their right hand has a grenade, guess which one theyre telling people to look at.
Just recently, a school has begun threatening students over the confederate flag with expulsion declaring it a "Gang symbol".
After Katrina military went door to door out the outskirts of towns kicking down doors and quite literally stealing firearms just because they were "potential looters" And im pretty sure they were never given back.
I give it less than 15 years before we have a major people on people violence problem in this country, because its what theyre trying so hard to push. And once they get it, theyll let it stir for awhile, and then theyll come in and play hero so everyone goes "Oh wow, im glad the government was here to protect us" even though theyre the ones who created the problem.
Like the Ex-CIA agent said some years ago, They have to create problems so they can fix them to stay relevant. If government bodies werent so good at screwing shit up, they would literally have no purpose.

[Ranndom]

I have footage of the gunman's GoPro. You see him point the pistol and fire. It's very real.

What makes no sense, at first, is how nobody saw him. Then I thought maybe they were remaining professional and not turning their attention on a bystander. Live news casts always attract bystanders so they're probably used to it and know to ignore them.

That's just my guess though.

Gun laws will be changed though. There will be a law passed for universal background checks at the least. Even the victim's father doesn't want to go farther than that. The bigger problem though is preventing mentally ill people who aren't diagnosed from buying a gun. A background check will not reveal their mental issues if they've never been diagnosed.
On top of the background checks a firearm seller has FULL control over whether or not to sell a firearm to that particular person.
What it comes down to though is the line. Before this line, you stop blood. Cross this line, and you will create it at an alarming rate. Look at Chicago. They crossed the line and are too stupid too realize it to the point where they blame everyone else for their problem and have inevitably turned their population into a bunch of trigger happy dickweeds who dont care if youre 6 or 60.

[surron]

Ranndom...

Why though? What's the motive for all these crimes you say these elite / CIA people are doing.

Please don't say to "take away our guns" or "money"


if they've committed all these crimes without anyone noticing im sure money is not an issue.

you might say take away our guns for control of the population... news check we're already under control. and even if we weren't whats the motive for "control", i could only see money, but then again if its secret elites, im sure money is not an issue.

[Ranndom]

Ranndom...

Why though? What's the motive for all these crimes you say these elite / CIA people are doing.

Please don't say to "take away our guns" or "money"


if they've committed all these crimes without anyone noticing im sure money is not an issue.

you might say take away our guns for control of the population... news check we're already under control. and even if we weren't whats the motive for "control", i could only see money, but then again if its secret elites, im sure money is not an issue.

Like i said, they create problems to stay relevant. If they did not create problems, they would have no purpose and simply wouldn't exist anymore

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

This is all another fake shooting like Sandy Hook.

People still pushing this tinfoil?

I know the family of one of the kids, their house wasn't 'magically paid off' like some of these nutjobs claim. Their kid is dead, as in there was a funeral and there is a gravestone. The info of the kids and where their corpses are buried is all out there.

Come up to CT some time and go dig up some of those graves so you can shed light on this "conspiracy".


Notice how the cameraman is not even pointing the camera at the people...while they are INTERVIEWING!
You've clearly never watched a local news broadcast.
Also, Why did the BF send a tweet that the girl was dead @ 6:37 when she was killed at 6:46?
Timezones. They were going to move out of state in 4 more days.
Also...HOW the hell did NOBODY see this guy out of the corner of their eye?
A good interviewer can learn to focus on their job much like a good athlete can focus on their goal/target completely ignoring outside distractions.
Why was NOBODY else in the area?
The same reason the cameraman was taking a panoramic view of the scenery. Again, you've clearly never watched a local news broadcast.
This is so fake...and people will believe everything
The only questionable thing is how slowly the cameraman placed the camera on the ground instead of beating the gunman with it, however to have an issue with that is to assume the cameraman didn't have any issues/baggage that would cause him to react in an irrational manner in that type of situation.
Or are you claiming that you were in that man's head during his last moments alive?

[Orruar]

Why would people listen to the families of victims after something like this? Someone who is obviously very emotional isn't who I'd go to for logical and rational advice on a topic. Anyone attempting to appeal to emotion is trying to fuck you in one way or another.

[Orruar]

https://www.intellihub.com/newtown-tax-assessors-database-whole-town-sandy-hook-bought-christmas-day-2009-says-investigator/
The guy in this video breaks it down decently.
Basically ~35 properties were transferred to people for a total of 0 dollars, Including Gene Rosen

The guys says this "fluke" occurred to every house in the entire city, not just the parents of the kids that were killed.

And this fluke is not evidence of an actual transaction. If you had ever bought a house, you'd know that any purchase comes with about a mile of paperwork, much of which is in the public domain. And the only evidence of a sale is a single line on a website? Also, why would they be selling people their own houses for $0? If I sell you something you already own for $0, what exactly happened? Nothing, that's what. Are they trying to claim they had their mortgages paid off? If so, where's the evidence of that?

[Luminari]

Timezones. They were going to move out of state in 4 more days.

He specifically says he kissed her good bye before she went to work that morning. Amazing how he traveled from Virginia to Cali in 3 hours!

Also, try watching the video's. Where is she being hit exactly? You can clearly see the gun is firing blanks and nothing is actually hitting her. If she was being shot point blank multiple times there's no fucking way she'd make it more than 3 feet and yet she is clearly running and screaming.

Another thing, check out the BF's facebook page. He has hundreds of pictures on there but only 8 of him with Allison and guess when they were ALL posted? The exact day she supposedly died! Amazing! So he uploads dozens of pictures in the 9 months they've been together but doesn't decide to post a single one of her until the very day she died. Amazing! Sorry but you're a fucking idiot if you don't think this is a massive hoax.

[Shrubwise]

Another thing, check out the BF's facebook page. He has hundreds of pictures on there but only 8 of him with Allison and guess when they were ALL posted? The exact day she supposedly died! Amazing! So he uploads dozens of pictures in the 9 months they've been together but doesn't decide to post a single one of her until the very day she died. Amazing! Sorry but you're a fucking idiot if you don't think this is a massive hoax.

They were dating. He was dipping his pen in the company ink. Their relationship was a secret until she got shot and killed, doing her job.

How's the tinfoil hat thing working out for you IRL though? Look out. Black helicopters flying overhead.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

He specifically says he kissed her good bye before she went to work that morning. Amazing how he traveled from Virginia to Cali in 3 hours!

I never claimed he was in Cali, nice assertion there though. Layovers also never happen.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Also, try watching the video's. Where is she being hit exactly? You can clearly see the gun is firing blanks and nothing is actually hitting her. If she was being shot point blank multiple times there's no fucking way she'd make it more than 3 feet and yet she is clearly running and screaming.

This was discussed at length. Real life =/= the movies.

[Swish]

Sorry but I'd still flinch at the entry point if those bullets hit, she just ran off like it was a playground game.

[Ranndom]

They were dating. He was dipping his pen in the company ink. Their relationship was a secret until she got shot and killed, doing her job.

How's the tinfoil hat thing working out for you IRL though? Look out. Black helicopters flying overhead.

Still doesnt explain how he tweeted she was dead quite a few minutes before the shooting actually happened

[Luminari]

This was discussed at length. Real life =/= the movies.

Sorry retard but if you get shot irl at point blank range multiple times, you're dropping like a sack of bricks. There are tons of video's of dudes 2-3x the size of this reporter being shot at close range and every single time they're down instantly.

They were dating. He was dipping his pen in the company ink. Their relationship was a secret until she got shot and killed, doing her job.

How's the tinfoil hat thing working out for you IRL though? Look out. Black helicopters flying overhead.

Who the fuck goes on social media within hours of their girlfriend that he was going to marry and talks about her death with what so obviously as fuck looks like scripted bullshit.

How's the down syndrome thing working out for you IRL though? Look out. You might get a .50 cent raise for flipping those burgers so well!

[iruinedyourday]

eh I think its the gun nut culture that is to blame for all these shootings. The fact taht there is a culture of people that basically masturbate to weapons designed to kill people and ironically they are the same demographic that scream about delusional conspiracy theories makes me not surprised that delusional creeps that hate people are attracted to it too.

https://i.imgur.com/XikHMqU.gif

So in a way, I'm blaming people who like guns for all the mass shootings in america. I think you're behavior attracts and encourages wackos to leap off the edge.

The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.. yea well, all the people that commit these mass shootings were the good guys with the guns weeks earlier.

[Big_Japan]

https://i.imgur.com/XikHMqU.gif


i want to melt a hallway full of zombies with that

[iruinedyourday]

I was getting to get flamed harder bigJ but yea if that were a video game id be into it i guess :(

[Ranndom]

eh I think its the gun nut culture that is to blame for all these shootings. The fact taht there is a culture of people that basically masturbate to weapons designed to kill people and ironically they are the same demographic that scream about delusional conspiracy theories makes me not surprised that delusional creeps that hate people are attracted to it too.

https://i.imgur.com/XikHMqU.gif

So in a way, I'm blaming people who like guns for all the mass shootings in america. I think you're behavior attracts and encourages wackos to leap off the edge.

The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.. yea well, all the people that commit these mass shootings were the good guys with the guns weeks earlier.
These gun nuts youre talking about are embracing a passion. Love
You're bitching is nothing but hate. "Gun nuts" arent the problem. You are.

[Snapple]

Link for that?

You can dwarf any crime stat if you're including theft, rape, fraud, etc etc. The police love to cover their issues with statistics.

There's a big demand for things like converted replica weapons in the cities.

"Gun enabled crime figures are displayed on the Metropolitan Police website at borough level expressed as financial year to date comparisons"

http://www.met.police.uk/crimefigures/

[Swish]

"Gun enabled crime figures are displayed on the Metropolitan Police website at borough level expressed as financial year to date comparisons"

http://www.met.police.uk/crimefigures/

Rolling 12 month figures:-

1705 gun crimes ... making the average 142 per month in London (and up 10% versus the same period the year previously)

Doesn't sound a lot, but in a country without guns, that's 4-5 a day on average - and I think that's bad. If you want to play Police Commissioner and tell me "that's nothing", it isn't.

[iruinedyourday]

crime lol

come on gun owners arnt concerned about crime, theyre concerned about guns and tinfoil hats.

you want to cut down on crime, spend $ on social programs and legalize drugs.

[Ranndom]

crime lol

come on gun owners arnt concerned about crime, theyre concerned about guns and tinfoil hats.


I dare you to say that to ANY business owner who owns a gun

[iruinedyourday]

I dare you to say that to ANY business owner who owns a gun

you want to cut down on crime, spend $ on social programs and legalize drugs.

[Ranndom]

you want to cut down on crime, spend $ on social programs and legalize drugs.

From 1992 to 2011, the average crime category DECREASED by 40% or more. The trend has undoubtedly continued

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

you want to cut down on crime, spend $ on social programs and legalize drugs.

You mean like in Colorado? Where not even a year after an initial dip the violent crime has skyrocketed to numbers unseen since the 80s?

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[iruinedyourday]

so we dont need guns, great! ban all the guns.

[iruinedyourday]

You mean like in Colorado? Where not even a year after an initial dip the violent crime has skyrocketed to numbers unseen since the 80s?

Yeahok.gif

no the details of social programs are beyond your understanding.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

You're jumping around even more and somehow from a completely baseless starting point you've managed to end up even further away. Not that this is unusual for your kind.

[iruinedyourday]

You're jumping around even more and somehow from a completely baseless starting point you've managed to end up even further away. Not that this is unusual for your kind.

BECUSE THIS ISNT A FUCING CSPAN WEBSITE WHERE WE DISCUSS REAL THINGS

god loser get a life.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Get back on your meds please.

[Ranndom]

Get back on your meds please.

Meds are probably what screwed him up in the first place heh. I havent taken something as little as tylenol is over 6 years

[iruinedyourday]

oh dear a gun freak and a retard dont like me

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[Ranndom]

oh dear a gun freak and a retard dont like me

https://cdn1.lockerdome.com/uploads/2e8a3f845dbc0e9a7f388ce740d6bccf2a163466c7ee85d98d 3e93ef8070fcce_large
Its more than just 2 people. Its Every true American with a common sense and understanding of where decency originates. You know what happens in gun free zones? We get ignorant fools like you not hiding behind keyboards being quite the nuisance to society

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

You know what happens in gun free zones?

Mass shootings.

[Ranndom]

Mass shootings.

Hah, that too

[iruinedyourday]

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[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

No matter how much you *feel* that you want to disagree with me because toeing your party line is all you have been capable of doing, that doesn't make you correct. This cultish mentality of yours is why nobody ever takes your kind seriously. You continually ignore facts and evidence simply because its inconvenient to you.

[Ranndom]

So i take it you're finally out of words? Funny, because i had another years worth of arguing points to defend what i believe in.

[iruinedyourday]

uh my party's stance on gun control is to pretend like it isnt an issue becuse retards like you start banging symbols together and screaming anytime anyone brings it up...

MY stance is that YOUR STANCE is the cause of gun violence.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

The funny thing is that I'm not even defending anything. I just like poking holes in the radical progressive line of thinking.

I'm not a huge fan of guns. I am also sensible enough to understand that 'gun control' as it is often suggested, categorically doesn't work and there's no way around it.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

my party's stance

See, you don't even see yourself as an individual. Fucking zombie.