Rogean willing to level the unfair pve advantage blue has for challege?

[lethdar]

I mean, its laughable to challenge red to a pve race when there are several unclassic custom elements in place to hamper pve. Blue can recharge every pve item, duck cast cheals when a tank swap is needed, infinite clickies, etc etc. These hamstrings were not in place on live and were made specifically for red.

His challenge post is pretty good for the lulz, but why would anyone accept such an imbalanced offer?

[Stasis01]

For the 3 guises.

[georgie]

next

[Qtip]

Did you read what he posted? He would turn pvp on, on the blue server(pog only). He would turn clickys off on blue(pog only). You need him to draw it in crayons next time?

[Swish]

Expecting blue guilds to pvp during a raid encounter though... I can't see it.

[fiegi 8.0]

Rogaine probably played a blue server for 14 years, rolled a lvl 20 wizard on red and figures he knows everything about it.

[Barkingturtle]

Did you read what he posted? He would turn pvp on, on the blue server(pog only). He would turn clickys off on blue(pog only). You need him to draw it in crayons next time?

Blue is evidently going to retain the literacy advantage no matter what Rogean does.

It's a good idea, but poorly worded. You can't label something a "challenge" and expect Empire to participate. I mean, you don't raid with five thousand of your nearest and dearest Christian pals if you're looking to test yourself.

[HarrisonDeliSlicer]

Red players, vote here http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208489

If you don't want Rogean to shut down your server you better do it ASAP!

The Grandmaster wills it!

[Osyruz]

I mean, its laughable to challenge red to a pve race when there are several unclassic custom elements in place to hamper pve. Blue can recharge every pve item, duck cast cheals when a tank swap is needed, infinite clickies, etc etc. These hamstrings were not in place on live and were made specifically for red.

His challenge post is pretty good for the lulz, but why would anyone accept such an imbalanced offer?

Did you even bother to read his challenge? Fuckin idiot....

[HippoNipple]

Barkingturtle mad

Blue never cried when population was 30 on Red. Now Red has 400 and dish out better PvE guilds while also dominating PvP. In addition they juggle some pretty big handicaps.

Blue is allowing these Red nerds to look like the jocks that stuffed them in their lockers in high school and it's embarrassing.

Rogean is trying to play dungeon master as king of the nerds and protect the blue player's last shred of dignity.

[HarrisonDeliSlicer]

Project 1999 PvP
Status:
Players: UP
197

[Barkingturtle]

Barkingturtle mad


Hey man, take it easy. I'm just pointing out that Empire is challenge-averse. Their actions back this up. Giving them a choice whether or not to accept this proposal is pointless.

Naw, not mad. It's not as if I'm going to start raiding tomorrow -- or ever -- if they all get transferred to Blue. I mean, I've never had a max level character in EQ and I don't intend to start now. I'm also never going to sit in teamspeak with anyone who plays EQ. I've heard recordings. Can't imagine anything worse, tbh. With or without Empire, I'll be playing Red how it's meant to be played: ganking cloth-clad lowbies with my collection of twinks.

[Tassador]

Project 1999 PvP
Status:
Players: UP
197

And your so obsessed with it kid.

[Nirgon]

blue hasn't killed Tunare and dey mad

[HippoNipple]

Hey man, take it easy. I'm just pointing out that Empire is challenge-averse. Their actions back this up. Giving them a choice whether or not to accept this proposal is pointless.

Naw, not mad. It's not as if I'm going to start raiding tomorrow -- or ever -- if they all get transferred to Blue. I mean, I've never had a max level character in EQ and I don't intend to start now. I'm also never going to sit in teamspeak with anyone who plays EQ. I've heard recordings. Can't imagine anything worse, tbh. With or without Empire, I'll be playing Red how it's meant to be played: ganking cloth-clad lowbies with my collection of twinks.

It sounded like you were mad that Empire is simultaneously the worlds top raiding and pvp guild in Velious era Everquest.

Now it sounds like you are mad that your mom won't buy you a headset to talk with the other nerds.

[Seltius]

Ok so in this challenge he extended. He leveled the playing field for both Red and Blue as far as mechanics in PoG. By Turning off clickies making PVP possible on Blue in PoG only.

You have over 1k players on Blue of that probably 80%+ are of level to go to PoG a good portion have gear far superior to anyone not in Empire and even some of Empire. A lot don't like each other and even more will not want Empire on Blue server so they will pvp to save the loot rotations they have now without another couple hundred mouths to feed.

You have an average of 250-350 players on Red most of which know something about PVP and probably a majority have characters that are a level able to do PoG yes they will try to keep Empire from succeeding but Empire has the superior numbers and gear so should still be able to succeed based off their posts and current achievements.

You should do it just to prove Rogean wrong or not.

I hate to point this out but chances are PoG on blue would crash with the numbers they would have there just trying to prevent Tunare from dying.

[Ragnaros]

Maybe you wouldn't have annoyed the staff if you didn't grief everyone off the server so you can avoid actual competitiveness, ensuring yourself uncontested raid mobs. Red has basically turned into a private copy of blue for a single guild, who are afraid of letting anyone else rise to challenge them.

And on top of that you're acting like pve badasses when you aren't.

Red has consistently been a pain in the ass for the staff ever since it was opened. The attitude of the players is abysmal. You've scared off more guides than I can count.

Since you guys seem to think you're so great at PvE, I'm going to issue a challenge.

Tunare has yet to be killed on either server. The first guild to kill it on either server will get 3 Guise of the Deceivers. If Empire loses this challenge, their entire guild will be transferred to blue.

To keep things fair, Growthplane on blue will be loaded with the Red server's ruleset. This means pvp will be enabled with the same rules as red, and mechanics such as duck interrupts will behave the same as red. Additionally, SoulFire, Reaper of the Dead, Prayers of Life, and Ivandyr's hoop will not work in Growthplane.

What say you, Empire? Do you accept the challenge, or will you decline?
idiot learn 2 read

[El Camacho]

If Empire wins, let them pick 100 players to move from red to blue and allow that many from blue to transfer to red.

[nottitanuk]

Rogaine probably played a blue server for 14 years, rolled a lvl 20 wizard on red and figures he knows everything about it.

then ran into silvers, getpants, kuna , sixpack and the Knights Templar

and he quit/hated red since

[nottitanuk]

I mean, its laughable to challenge red to a pve race when there are several unclassic custom elements in place to hamper pve. Blue can recharge every pve item, duck cast cheals when a tank swap is needed, infinite clickies, etc etc. These hamstrings were not in place on live and were made specifically for red.

His challenge post is pretty good for the lulz, but why would anyone accept such an imbalanced offer?

luv lethdar , always so wise and charming

[Gimp]

Expecting blue guilds to pvp during a raid encounter though... I can't see it.

So it would be just like doing the encounter on red then, all uncontested and stuff

[AzzarTheGod]

then ran into silvers, getpants, kuna , sixpack and the Knights Templar

and he quit/hated red since

Rogeans skull was bashed in by Silvers and the <Knights Templar> on a jaunting mistmoore outing.

[FAPhoenix]

If Empire wins, let them pick 100 players to move from red to blue and allow that many from blue to transfer to red.

I love it, that would be worth it for the non-stop griefing on red empire would take trying to do this. Give the Blue guild the same option...to send 100 of their enemies to red :)

[Cappa]

best answer, link POG to both servers, red rules. one zone for both servers.

of course this is all in response to a problem that staff created themselves, refuse to fix themselves even though there are simple fixes, yet keep blaming on the players. so anyone who expects them to make a simple fix is kidding themselves.

[Farzo]

best answer, link POG to both servers, red rules. one zone for both servers.

of course this is all in response to a problem that staff created themselves, refuse to fix themselves even though there are simple fixes, yet keep blaming on the players. so anyone who expects them to make a simple fix is kidding themselves.

[Vile]

best answer, link POG to both servers, red rules. one zone for both servers.

of course this is all in response to a problem that staff created themselves, refuse to fix themselves even though there are simple fixes, yet keep blaming on the players. so anyone who expects them to make a simple fix is kidding themselves.

would be epic not sure if possible tho

[Xaanka]

Expecting blue guilds to pvp during a raid encounter though... I can't see it.

Expecting any blue guild to actually want to win the challenge, thus bringing all the toxic empire players over to their serene paradise land is laughable. That's the real problem with Rogean's offer, not some dumb aspergers stuff about recharging items.

[contemptor]

Ok so in this challenge he extended. He leveled the playing field for both Red and Blue as far as mechanics in PoG. By Turning off clickies making PVP possible on Blue in PoG only.

You have over 1k players on Blue of that probably 80%+ are of level to go to PoG a good portion have gear far superior to anyone not in Empire and even some of Empire. A lot don't like each other and even more will not want Empire on Blue server so they will pvp to save the loot rotations they have now without another couple hundred mouths to feed.

You have an average of 250-350 players on Red most of which know something about PVP and probably a majority have characters that are a level able to do PoG yes they will try to keep Empire from succeeding but Empire has the superior numbers and gear so should still be able to succeed based off their posts and current achievements.

You should do it just to prove Rogean wrong or not.

I hate to point this out but chances are PoG on blue would crash with the numbers they would have there just trying to prevent Tunare from dying.
Not really, blue players would work together to allow a legitimate attempt to beat off a red guild. The most scum blue players have already moved over to red.

[Sriracha]

Arent the red players just attempting to out-meta Rogean so they can somehow survive the trap he's set in RED99? Can't you see the genius in what they're doing here? Or do we sit here and pretend they didn't just gave you this masterpiece... and you have the audacity to suggest wholesale changes?

[LostCause]

does op even read?

Originally Posted by Rogean View Post
Maybe you wouldn't have annoyed the staff if you didn't grief everyone off the server so you can avoid actual competitiveness, ensuring yourself uncontested raid mobs. Red has basically turned into a private copy of blue for a single guild, who are afraid of letting anyone else rise to challenge them.

And on top of that you're acting like pve badasses when you aren't.

Red has consistently been a pain in the ass for the staff ever since it was opened. The attitude of the players is abysmal. You've scared off more guides than I can count.

Since you guys seem to think you're so great at PvE, I'm going to issue a challenge.

Tunare has yet to be killed on either server. The first guild to kill it on either server will get 3 Guise of the Deceivers. If Empire loses this challenge, their entire guild will be transferred to blue.

To keep things fair, Growthplane on blue will be loaded with the Red server's ruleset. This means pvp will be enabled with the same rules as red, and mechanics such as duck interrupts will behave the same as red. Additionally, SoulFire, Reaper of the Dead, Prayers of Life, and Ivandyr's hoop will not work in Growthplane.

What say you, Empire? Do you accept the challenge, or will you decline?

[jaybone]

Omg 3 guises!!!!!

[jaybone]

Also let's be real, Rogean would take down the red server after the hours of trash clear.

[Farzo]

c'mon now we talking about commonsense analysis here:

1975/2000 blubies have no clue about PvP vrs 100/300 people on red have a clue about PvP...


I'll leave the rest of this 2 u to gather up and think about.

[Farzo]

^was in response to lostcause; and the whole challenge in general.

[nottitanuk]

Rogaine probably played a blue server for 14 years, rolled a lvl 20 wizard on red and figures he knows everything about it.


then ran into silvers, getpants, kuna , sixpack and the Knights Templar

he quit/hated red since

[AzzarTheGod]

Ol' 'gean got bashed over the head by Silvers and the <Knights Templar> of Mistmoore.

[Runya]

blue fgt talk