The only way to curb RMT

[wts]

On Teams99, make all raid loot no drop and disable multiquest. You want something? Be there when it drops.

[georgie]

NOT CLASSIC

[Videri]

This sounds like a good idea.

[Nocsucow]

Yeah..... that will work for sure!!!!
10/10 idea ... would support

[Swish]

NOT CLASSIC

Also teams is going to start with item loot.

[Ranndom]

On Teams99, make all raid loot no drop and disable multiquest. You want something? Be there when it drops.

Tax RMT, 5,000 %.

[maerilith]

IMO if you got a free pizza for killing a dragon, ud have less RPTs

[Haynar]

Still wont work. Then ppl will just have to have chars there to do the looting, for the RMT items. There just wont be RMT from othere ways. And then for epics, ppl will pay to have their char logged into to run thru epic quest. Price will just go up.

And MQ is written into the quests. Rewrite all the quests? LOL.

[Nocsucow]

Still wont work. Then ppl will just have to have chars there to do the looting, for the RMT items. There just wont be RMT from othere ways. And then for epics, ppl will pay to have their char logged into to run thru epic quest. Price will just go up.

And MQ is written into the quests. Rewrite all the quests? LOL.

could be a challenge for you haynar

[Champion_Standing]

Disable MQ, ban for PLing, wipe all plat on the server every 3 months.

[Haynar]

could be a challenge for you haynar

Ummm. No.

Not only no. But hell no.

H

[Haynar]

Need to get Daybreak Games involved, perhaps they have a suggestion on how to curb RMT.

Because DBG has done so much to stop RMT?

And I don't think you understand p99's relationship with them. Short version. We agree to play be the rules (private) they put forth. They agree not to take legal action and try to shut p99 down.

H

[Haynar]

Disable MQ, ban for PLing, wipe all plat on the server every 3 months.

How about you delete all your plat every 3 mos to simulate this. Let us know the results in 500 words or less.

H

[hatelore]

Blue Reflector , do you ever stfu? Srs question.

[LostCause]

won't stop ppl from "gifting" account to a buddy nawmean

[maskedmelon]

There is no way to eliminate RMT and combatting it is a waste of resources from a publisher's perspective because secondary markets increase demand for primary markets. That is why the industry has shifted to a micro-transaction model. It is more profitable.

Obviously on a free to play service there is no additional revenue to be had by supporting it, but combatting it is still a drain on resources. It is a drain with little reward :/ I say kudos to the team for the regular purges they conduct of RMT related accounts. That in itself is a thankless undertaking.

[Zade]

is there any official announcement on teams?

or is this like the "soon" thing for velious?

[Deluxeee]

Yeah, let's roll out teams!

[Coffee]

^ rmter
punished

resolved

[Sektor]

^ rmter
punished

resolved

Did Mellowyellow really do your homework for you for that rod of annihilation??

ehehehehhee

[Champion_Standing]

How about you delete all your plat every 3 mos to simulate this. Let us know the results in 500 words or less.

H

Done, it was amazing and I've never felt better. Server health already improving.

[DRAGONBAIT]

i think people is making loads of $$ here

[Tomm Selleck]

Did Mellowyellow really do your homework for you for that rod of annihilation??

ehehehehhee

U mad?:rolleyes:

[wts]

There just wont be RMT from othere ways.

So it will substantially cut down on RMT and your character has to be there to loot so everybody knows where the loot is going? Sounds good, sign me up.

Another idea would be to make the character logs public so you basically enlist about 200 nerds to pour through them and provide forum updates about which alts the raid leftovers got transferred to. Make it so the scumlords can't hide their trails and you'll have guild leaders on this server that are above pond scum.

is there any official announcement on teams?

or is this like the "soon" thing for velious?

Welp, they went from saying "teams is coming after Velious" to more recently qualifying it as "if we decide to do teams." Which, cool that's what I figured anyway and thanks for being up front. Still waiting around for teams but always knew it was a crap shoot if it would happen or not.

[Chronoburn]

I still can't get over people paying for pixels. I find it even more sick that it's pixels in an emulated game from 1999..

[Gnomegrown2]

so deluxee sold his rogue after losing when velious came out ?

[Colgate]

so deluxee sold his rogue after losing when velious came out ?

gonna guess his deal with hammertime where he bought the character caught up to him, or that he got caught in the jibeknn RMT banwave somehow

[surron]

how would a teams server help anything

would it be split by races? in that case we all know that 1 side would be heavily favored...

do you chose a team at some point? again one side would be heavily favored.

[Gnomegrown2]

teams would make server even more blue / stupid / pointless

hence why all the players who want teams are heavybreathing shitbags

[Deluxeee]

gonna guess his deal with hammertime where he bought the character caught up to him, or that he got caught in the jibeknn RMT banwave somehow

For clarification, I procured Deluxee the same way you procured Colgate--through a legal trade of in-game items. I also still have full access to him, he just hasn't been fully geared for some time now.

Best always,

Del

[Susvain2]

and u RMT'd once you got beat down by Fandango?

[Deluxeee]

Can you read?

[Colgate]

o idk rumor goin around that u got b&

[FraggleRock]

Need to get Daybreak Games involved, perhaps they have a suggestion on how to curb RMT. If this keeps up and people keep posting all this nonsense about rmt. Daydream gona shut tis shit down

[Susvain2]

Can you read?

you were talking trash calling me out for weeks, I finally find time to squeeze you in, I promptly stomp you out in Thurgadin and now you've RMT'ed all of your items and are bant

griefed off the server

[FraggleRock]

Heroine is for really successful people! Only real winners in life are awarded AONS

[wts]

If this keeps up and people keep posting all this nonsense about rmt. Daydream gona shut tis shit down

Teams beta or Jihad. If you want to shut us up, give us a server to play on.

[Kergan]

Need to get Daybreak Games involved, perhaps they have a suggestion on how to curb RMT.

Daybreak games solved RMT by selling krono for RL cash and allowing it to be sold for platinum. WoW solved RMT the same way. In fact almost every game now has a legitimate means to RMT. Hell, for a while Diablo 3 had an auction house you could just straight up buy items from people for money that was accessible in game.

The solution was to get their cut. That isn't an option here.

[Potus]

Perhaps people should stop paying real money for fake things on a 20 year old elf simulator.

[Bazia]

pretend rmt rage what a knee slapper

[unleashedd]

who does RMTing hurt anywa?

[Ranndom]

who does RMTing hurt anywa?

Up close, no one.
Outside looking in, the server.
Simply allowing RMT would produce such a drastic increase on farming that would easily take its toll on any population

[Ranndom]

Daybreak games solved RMT by selling krono for RL cash and allowing it to be sold for platinum. WoW solved RMT the same way. In fact almost every game now has a legitimate means to RMT. Hell, for a while Diablo 3 had an auction house you could just straight up buy items from people for money that was accessible in game.

The solution was to get their cut. That isn't an option here.

Lets not forget theres really only 1 server that even uses plat and thats firiona vie.

[unleashedd]

Up close, no one.
Outside looking in, the server.
Simply allowing RMT would produce such a drastic increase on farming that would easily take its toll on any population

i thought with such low pop, server in kunark for 5 years, and most players being logged in for 12 hours a day, farming is a given and already at max

[lite]

Can you read?

Hey, bae! We gotta chat sometime soon, great news!

[El Camacho]

Daybreak games solved RMT by selling krono for RL cash and allowing it to be sold for platinum. WoW solved RMT the same way. In fact almost every game now has a legitimate means to RMT. Hell, for a while Diablo 3 had an auction house you could just straight up buy items from people for money that was accessible in game.

The solution was to get their cut. That isn't an option here.

none of those solved the RMT problems. They just legitimized turning the game into a job for some people and having those types of players in a game is never a benefit for the community. Like you said, they just wanted a cut, but the problem was still there.

Blizzard removed the auction hall from Diablo 3, because it was ruining the game.

[Kergan]

none of those solved the RMT problems. They just legitimized turning the game into a job for some people and having those types of players in a game is never a benefit for the community. Like you said, they just wanted a cut, but the problem was still there.

Blizzard removed the auction hall from Diablo 3, because it was ruining the game.

I agree the auction hall ruined the game, but not the RMT part of it. Just the whole concept of an AH for in game gold or RMT turned the game into total dogshit and it took multiple years and more or less a complete redesign of the game to fix it.

As for the MMORPGs, I guess "solving" the problem is relative. For a company the amount of time spent by CSRs on RMT related things probably dropped by a huge amount, and their profits went up. I'm sure the brass over there considers the problem solved.

[Kergan]

Lets not forget theres really only 1 server that even uses plat and thats firiona vie.

I disagree. Krono are a huge part of the economy on the TLP/TLE servers which are easily the most popular right now.

[El Camacho]

I agree the auction hall ruined the game, but not the RMT part of it. Just the whole concept of an AH for in game gold or RMT turned the game into total dogshit and it took multiple years and more or less a complete redesign of the game to fix it.

As for the MMORPGs, I guess "solving" the problem is relative. For a company the amount of time spent by CSRs on RMT related things probably dropped by a huge amount, and their profits went up. I'm sure the brass over there considers the problem solved.

Well, I know the population took another dip with each RMT effort in EQ2. Games and company tanked, so problems not solved.



Players generally don't fear the punishments. Either thinking they are to smart and will get away with it or think the companies don't punish players so there is no risk.

Public naming might go a long way to changing that perception.

[unleashedd]

on live, i gave my account to a guildie for free. then i asked him for $500 for drugs. worked out fine

[Gnomegrown2]

Hey, bae! We gotta chat sometime soon, great news!

hey bae@ Great news!

i finally am getting a life and you are banned, now we can go get a life together!

:)

[Crushfield]

if i ever pay real money for anything in a 15 years old game free to murder my balls

[wts]

It makes sense that P99 finally got serious about RMT since the whole project could get shut down at any time by Daybreak if they felt like it was cutting into their market. Thus I feel like this is a worthwhile discussion. So removing multiquest isn't an option and making raid loot no-drop isn't classic.

The most elegant solution is to make the database public. Sirken says Rogean is a massive hoarder when it comes to logs. Make the latest character db downloadable and update it frequently. It removes the burden from the staff of pouring through those logs because the second raid loot goes to someone who didn't earn it, it will be all over the forums. P99 will never be accused of having corrupt GMs or taking a cut on RMT again because the second anyone RMTs anything of significance, it will be public knowledge.

[Crushfield]

just post everyones home address and phone number imo

[wts]

You're stupid and have nothing of value to add to the conversation. Posting someones 15 year old elf sim items does not equal posting personal information. stfu.

[Crushfield]

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