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minakto
08-24-2015, 03:01 PM
I received a disturbing message today friends. GM's and other staff have been banning people who are roleplayers and encourage violence against groups of ingame races such as gnomes, high elves, barbarians and erudites, calling it "hatespeech and racism." Is harmless roleplaying in a high fantasy environment not allowed anymore? Dungeons and Dragons typically have roleplaying against specific races, why is it forbidden on an Everquest Emulator?

Staff can we receive a clear message regarding the legality of such gameplay? Roleplaying is a classic and valuable mechanic that many players immerse themselves in.

Ranndom
08-24-2015, 03:04 PM
I received a disturbing message today friends. GM's and other staff have been banning people who are roleplayers and encourage violence against groups of ingame races such as gnomes, high elves, barbarians and erudites. Is roleplaying not allowed on Red99.

Staff can we receive a clear message regarding the legality of such gameplay? Roleplaying is a classic and valuable mechanic that many players immerse themselves in.

lol, apparently the weak modernization were currently having to experience in life is also destroying games

Swish
08-24-2015, 03:14 PM
Are you running around calling the erudites "******s" ?

Vanquisher
08-24-2015, 03:15 PM
Are you running around calling the erudites "******s" ?

in b4 ban

Eslade
08-24-2015, 03:21 PM
not my fault that my Dwarf doesn't like erudite rogues or Gnolls in general.

Coffee
08-24-2015, 03:31 PM
Role playing is what vyrenoth does.

With the number of unemployed who eat pills to deal with debilitating depression and anxiety over hearing voices on TeamSpeak I think role playing should be bannable.

minakto
08-24-2015, 03:47 PM
It shouldn't be the concern of the staff if my character kills any race on sight due to roleplaying. This is just another way for new staff to try and "improve" Red99 with their new thoughtpolice rules. Hasn't Red99 had enough of new staff implementing new rules just for the staff member to quit 4 weeks later?

I think a poem written by Martin Niemoller in the aftermath of World War 2 and the atrocities of the Nazis and fascists were made public is a great lesson for anybody wanting to silence groups of players for their beliefs:

First they came for the roleplayers
and I did not speak out
because I was not a roleplayer.
Then they came for the PVPers
and I did not speak out
because I was not a PVPer.
They they came for the raid guildes
and I did not speak out because I was not in a raid guild.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

Videri
08-24-2015, 03:52 PM
I received a disturbing message today friends. GM's and other staff have been banning people who are roleplayers and encourage violence against groups of ingame races such as gnomes, high elves, barbarians and erudites, calling it "hatespeech and racism." Is harmless roleplaying in a high fantasy environment not allowed anymore? Dungeons and Dragons typically have roleplaying against specific races, why is it forbidden on an Everquest Emulator?

Staff can we receive a clear message regarding the legality of such gameplay? Roleplaying is a classic and valuable mechanic that many players immerse themselves in.

You're not fooling anyone. You're not roleplaying Norrathian racism. You're using euphemisms to imply RL slurs. I don't know whether you're just doing it to annoy and offend people or to express your racist feelings, but it doesn't matter. Players here dislike it and clearly some are complaining to the GMs.

It's obvious this isn't about the freedom to roleplay. There's a lot more to fantasy roleplaying than racism, and you don't do any of it. Your roleplaying is a parody and a sham.

You are merely butthurt because you're finally facing consequences for your xenophobic trolling.

magician
08-24-2015, 03:56 PM
man Ur such a good tuneweaver


fukin shiverback

minakto
08-24-2015, 03:57 PM
You're not fooling anyone. You're not roleplaying Norrathian racism. You're using euphemisms to imply RL slurs. I don't know whether you're just doing it to annoy and offend people or to express your racist feelings, but it doesn't matter. Players here dislike it and clearly some are complaining to the GMs.

It's obvious this isn't about the freedom to roleplay. There's a lot more to fantasy roleplaying than racism, and you don't do any of it. Your roleplaying is a parody and a sham.

You are merely butthurt because you're finally facing consequences for your xenophobic trolling.

Should anybody who roleplays a paladin sworn to destroy dark elves be banned for racism/xenophobia?

What about your murder of giants/dragons/dwarves? Is that not genocide? Thoughtcrime is a slippery slope and once a new staff member begins enacting rules to ban behaviors that are legal but he/she dislikes, it will end in disaster, as in every staff member since the beginning of Red99 except Sirken. Somehow, Sirken has retained his legitimacy, judgement and objectiveness throughout all of this.

Tala, I name you a racist and xenophobic member of Casual Scum who participate in genocide due to your misguided and terrible beliefs. I will be petitioning this.

Troof
08-24-2015, 03:59 PM
people are smarter than we tend to think, Tala is on point. Your shit is weak.

Ranndom
08-24-2015, 04:02 PM
You're not fooling anyone. You're not roleplaying Norrathian racism. You're using euphemisms to imply RL slurs. I don't know whether you're just doing it to annoy and offend people or to express your racist feelings, but it doesn't matter. Players here dislike it and clearly some are complaining to the GMs.

It's obvious this isn't about the freedom to roleplay. There's a lot more to fantasy roleplaying than racism, and you don't do any of it. Your roleplaying is a parody and a sham.

You are merely butthurt because you're finally facing consequences for your xenophobic trolling.

People "hated" gender based signs at target too...You know complying with the weak got them? a rather large loss of business which will show clearly in the 4th quarter.
And you must not remember, when kunark released on live iksars were denied groups left and right for simply being iksars.
People really need to grow up and stop trying to make the world perfect, wether real or virtual, the desire for perfection only breeds hate.

Coffee
08-24-2015, 04:03 PM
Dervish extremists

Oppression

Wear a robe and a coif slut

Videri
08-24-2015, 04:08 PM
It shouldn't be the concern of the staff if my character kills any race on sight due to roleplaying.

No one told you not to attack on sight in Norrath. The point you're trying so desperately not to acknowledge is that the GMs are telling you to stop calling people "Erudite" as a substitute for the N-word.

minakto
08-24-2015, 04:10 PM
No one told you not to attack on sight in Norrath. The point you're trying so desperately not to acknowledge is that the GMs are telling you to stop calling people "Erudite" as a substitute for the N-word.

You're not an erudite. You're a filthy half-elf who will be destroyed for being a half breed piece of shit. You're also possibly a dervish in disguise. I will contact the Norrathian INS to investigate your status.

Shjade
08-24-2015, 04:38 PM
You're not an erudite. You're a filthy half-elf who will be destroyed for being a half breed piece of shit. You're also possibly a dervish in disguise. I will contact the Norrathian INS to investigate your status.

Hint: this isn't roleplaying.

Why not?

Because there is no Norrathian INS; this is a concept you, the player, are adding into the game from modern day concepts that do not belong in the setting.

This is the opposite of roleplaying, and no one's buying it.

Videri
08-24-2015, 04:42 PM
You're not an erudite. You're a filthy half-elf who will be destroyed for being a half breed piece of shit. You're also possibly a dervish in disguise. I will contact the Norrathian INS to investigate your status.

Hah! If you think I'm insulted, you'd better consult with that famed Gnomish intellect of yours. Too bad you lack the wisdom to apply it. I've endured far worse treatment than this in the past, and my Half-Elven legs will always carry me away from those who would do me harm.

We Half-Elves know the value of tolerance and understanding. My drum and lute have taken me all over Norrath, and I've learned there are more similarities than differences between the races that populate these vast and varied lands.

minakto
08-24-2015, 04:43 PM
Hah! If you think I'm insulted, you'd better consult with that famed Gnomish intellect of yours. Too bad you lack the wisdom to apply it. I've endured far worse treatment than this in the past, and my Half-Elven legs will always carry me away from those who would do me harm.

We Half-Elves know the value of tolerance and understanding. My drum and lute have taken me all over Norrath, and I've learned there are more similarities than differences between the races that populate these vast and varied lands.

Your lute and drum will not save you when the Dwarven Racial Purity Brigade come and grind you up into feed for their war pigs. Faydwer was meant for Gnomes and Dwarves. Elf scum like yourself will be destroyed to make way for the beautiful purity of the best races of Brell our father.

minakto
08-24-2015, 04:44 PM
Hint: this isn't roleplaying.

Why not?

Because there is no Norrathian INS; this is a concept you, the player, are adding into the game from modern day concepts that do not belong in the setting.

This is the opposite of roleplaying, and no one's buying it.

I made a guild called Norrathian INS. What's your point?

iruinedyourday
08-24-2015, 04:49 PM
minakto is RPing as a 14 year old full of angst pretty well ITT.

jaybone
08-24-2015, 05:02 PM
I don't understand why I can't call someone an erudite.

Shjade
08-24-2015, 05:16 PM
I made a guild called Norrathian INS. What's your point?

I made my point.

You're confirming it.

Sidenote: you do realize Norrath is the planet, right? Antonica is the main continent.

minakto
08-24-2015, 05:36 PM
This is just social justice nerds trying to enforce their skewed real life beliefs onto a 16 year old elf simulator game. Racism and xenophobia is alive and well in Norrath. The Kromrif and Kromzek of Kael Drakkel regularly try to commit genocide in Great Divide against the Coldain.

The dragons of Claws of Veeshan consider themselves superior to every other race; hello dragon supremacy.

The Coldain will not talk allow you to complete armor quests until you prove yourself; hello racism.

Anybody who supports the suppression of speech due to made up terms such as racism, xenophobia and hate speech in a game literally about killing your enemies, is an idiot.

minakto
08-24-2015, 05:37 PM
I made my point.

You're confirming it.

Sidenote: you do realize Norrath is the planet, right? Antonica is the main continent.

Norrathian INS controls all immigration and refugees from various states around Norrath. It's similar to how America controls all aspects of the world because America is #1.

Karok
08-24-2015, 05:53 PM
Kill all the pecks,.... And the lighties, but mostly,... The pecks cause they're short.

Ranndom
08-24-2015, 06:05 PM
This is just social justice nerds trying to enforce their skewed real life beliefs onto a 16 year old elf simulator game. Racism and xenophobia is alive and well in Norrath. The Kromrif and Kromzek of Kael Drakkel regularly try to commit genocide in Great Divide against the Coldain.

The dragons of Claws of Veeshan consider themselves superior to every other race; hello dragon supremacy.

The Coldain will not talk allow you to complete armor quests until you prove yourself; hello racism.

Anybody who supports the suppression of speech due to made up terms such as racism, xenophobia and hate speech in a game literally about killing your enemies, is an idiot.
The only ones who can argue with that are the ones who get offended by every little thing in life.
You know, the ones who never shut up because "susie" gave a weird look.
The ones who claim to be all about freedom, unless its something they dont like, in which case it should be banned because they think they have the freedom to take someone elses rights.
Those kinds of people, they arent worth the oxygen it takes to properly insult them.
Though, i wouldnt really call them made up, but definitely over-used in situations where the word has no grasp on the situation.

Shjade
08-24-2015, 06:08 PM
Norrathian INS controls all immigration and refugees from various states around Norrath. It's similar to how America controls all aspects of the world because America is #1.

Significant differences:

1) Again, America is a nation, not the entire planet.

2) I've actually heard of America, and it's a nation that has power to enforce ridiculous rules even outside its borders. You and your guild (that I've never heard of before) do not.

3) To reiterate: a weak smokescreen for your racist sense of humor isn't roleplaying. It's you posting what you personally find funny, not playing the role of your (not-you) character.

You know this, of course, as you're just a troll, but what the heck, maybe someone reading is genuinely confused about the topic.

Ranndom
08-24-2015, 06:10 PM
Significant differences:

1) Again, America is a nation, not the entire planet.

2) I've actually heard of America, and it's a nation that has power to enforce ridiculous rules even outside its borders. You and your guild (that I've never heard of before) do not.

3) To reiterate: a weak smokescreen for your racist sense of humor isn't roleplaying. It's you posting what you personally find funny, not playing the role of your (not-you) character.

You know this, of course, as you're just a troll, but what the heck, maybe someone reading is genuinely confused about the topic.
"You iksars have ruined YOUR own lands"
EQ isnt racist at all...Nope.
Its not like the entire foundation of this game is racism and genocide.

iruinedyourday
08-24-2015, 06:21 PM
"You iksars have ruined YOUR own lands"
EQ isnt racist at all...Nope.
Its not like the entire foundation of this game is racism and genocide.

I dont think the creators intended for idiot children to intemperate:

Glox says, 'dem kno it all dark elvs' to be the same as Glox says, 'fuck Asians'

Shjade
08-24-2015, 06:25 PM
"You iksars have ruined YOUR own lands"
EQ isnt racist at all...Nope.
Its not like the entire foundation of this game is racism and genocide.

Show me where I have said anything resembling "Everquest's setting doesn't support racism" prior to this post.




I'll wait.

captnamazing
08-24-2015, 06:40 PM
The RP-Police contacted me to look into this. Apparently OP is under investigation for being an RL racist and trying to play it off in-game as his character. These are alarming allegations. I am requesting photographic evidence of OP's in-game role-playing interactions with races his character may deem "unworthy" or "unfit to trod Norrath"

Swish
08-24-2015, 06:41 PM
Significant differences:

1) Again, America is a nation, not the entire planet.

2) I've actually heard of America, and it's a nation that has power to enforce ridiculous rules even outside its borders. You and your guild (that I've never heard of before) do not.

3) To reiterate: a weak smokescreen for your racist sense of humor isn't roleplaying. It's you posting what you personally find funny, not playing the role of your (not-you) character.

You know this, of course, as you're just a troll, but what the heck, maybe someone reading is genuinely confused about the topic.

Are you autistic? Seriously.

iruinedyourday
08-24-2015, 06:46 PM
Swish doing gods work reminding people there are racists in the UK too!

Shjade
08-24-2015, 06:46 PM
Dang, Swish, that's some intense community friendliness you're channeling there.

minakto
08-24-2015, 06:52 PM
Significant differences:

1) Again, America is a nation, not the entire planet.

2) I've actually heard of America, and it's a nation that has power to enforce ridiculous rules even outside its borders. You and your guild (that I've never heard of before) do not.

3) To reiterate: a weak smokescreen for your racist sense of humor isn't roleplaying. It's you posting what you personally find funny, not playing the role of your (not-you) character.

You know this, of course, as you're just a troll, but what the heck, maybe someone reading is genuinely confused about the topic.

1. America is worldwide. See our bases and carrier groups across the world?
2. America enforces any rule/law we want in any nation across the world. Therefore America rules the world.
3. I'm sorry that my roleplaying somehow makes you think of black people and white people. Maybe you're the racist?

Varren
08-24-2015, 07:28 PM
Shjade is a filthy froglok i bet

captnamazing
08-24-2015, 07:29 PM
america is not a nation you morans

iruinedyourday
08-24-2015, 07:32 PM
This thread has me cringing so hard like I got electrodes on my face https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch1PwZay4wk&app=desktop

Ranndom
08-24-2015, 07:37 PM
The RP-Police contacted me to look into this. Apparently OP is under investigation for being an RL racist and trying to play it off in-game as his character. These are alarming allegations. I am requesting photographic evidence of OP's in-game role-playing interactions with races his character may deem "unworthy" or "unfit to trod Norrath"

So...You can be racist in game, as long as its not against erudites.
Let me guess, Erudites "cant" be racist? Am i Right or Am i Right?

Super Hater
08-24-2015, 07:39 PM
i call people erudite in real life all the time

no different then italian people calling black people eggplants and moolenyan's

its like an inside joke that says hey you are a *beep* Forum account protection engaged.

Lol. Inside joke? You're not in on anything. You're just behind a keyboard so you feel safe. You're not close to tough enough to say those things to people IRL.

Super Hater
08-24-2015, 07:49 PM
Experiment...

Go to your local metropolitan area.
Get on the bus or train.
Spot some Terry Crews lookin ass ni**a.
Call him an Erudite...

See how long it takes for him to google that shit on his phone and punch you right in the face.

iruinedyourday
08-24-2015, 07:56 PM
chortled

Varren
08-24-2015, 07:57 PM
He would think you were calling him smart

iruinedyourday
08-24-2015, 07:58 PM
gotta admire brad mquaids choices pre gamergate.

Gustoo
08-24-2015, 08:03 PM
Erudite means kinda smarty pants book wormy dude.

As a bristlebane halfling I love all in game races but I know that dark elfs dont and high elfs don't and that erudites chose to live alone on an island to focus on their studies.

This thread stinks and yeah brad is a genius.

Super Hater
08-24-2015, 08:13 PM
Erudite means kinda smarty pants book wormy dude.

As a bristlebane halfling I love all in game races but I know that dark elfs dont and high elfs don't and that erudites chose to live alone on an island to focus on their studies.

This thread stinks and yeah brad is a genius.

Their's still an incoming haymaker when Terry sees page one of Google images.

Coffee
08-24-2015, 08:26 PM
cringing at supertry right now

Dac321
08-24-2015, 09:04 PM
er·u·dite
ˈer(y)əˌdīt/
adjective
having or showing great knowledge or learning.
synonyms: learned, scholarly, educated, knowledgeable, well read, well informed, intellectual; More
antonyms: ignorant
Origin

late Middle English: from Latin eruditus, past participle of erudire ‘instruct, train’ (based on rudis ‘rude, untrained’).
Translate erudite to
Use over time for: erudite

That's the first thing Google showed. You'd pry get a swift fist bump.

Swish
08-24-2015, 09:15 PM
I consider myself to be an erudite then

Gardur
08-24-2015, 09:23 PM
Stopped reading when Tala FQ pkd op.

Stop being a shitty person on an elf sim and enjoy a complete lack of GM attention.

Feels goog.

Shjade
08-24-2015, 10:54 PM
I consider myself to be an erudite then

That sentence demonstrates you're not.

(It's an adjective, not a noun.)

Salaryman
08-24-2015, 10:55 PM
Server is better then ever.

knix
08-25-2015, 01:41 AM
6. Foul language is not permitted, in any language.

Excessive use of foul language in an inappropriate context, including swear words, real-world racial slurs, and other language that is not consistent with the fantasy environment and designed to hurt, will be considered a disruption. The existence of the filter (/filter) is not a license to be profane.

10. You may not abuse other players or Project 1999 Staff.

The following actions would be considered abuse:

o Hate Mongering - participation in or propagation of Hate literature, behavior, or propaganda related to real -world characteristics.

o Sexual Abuse or Harassment - untoward and/or unwelcome advances of a graphic and sexual nature. This includes, but is not limited to, virtual rape, overt sexual overtures, and stalking of a sexual nature.

o Attempting to Defraud a CS Representative - Petitioning with false information with the intent of receiving benefits as a result. This includes reporting bug deaths, experience or item loss, or accusing other players of wrongdoing without basis for it.

o Impersonating a Customer Service Representative - falsely representing yourself to another player as a Guide or a member of the Project 1999 Server Staff.

o CS Personnel Abuse - This includes, but is not limited to, sending excessive /petitions (as an individual or group), sending excessive /tells to a CS Representative, excessively using say or other channels to communicate to a CS Representative, making physical threats, or using abusive language against a CS Representative.

o Implying favoritism by members of the Project 1999 Staff - Implying that Guides, GM's, or Developers will show favor towards one or more parties involved in any given situation. This includes, but is not limited to, using threats of retribution or inferring that you will not be held accountable for your actions due to special consideration.

Note: This list is not all-inclusive. Other actions may be determined as abuse at the discretion of the P99CSR.

11. "Role-playing" does not grant license to violate these rules.

Though EverQuest is a Role-playing game, the claim of "Role-play" will not be accepted in defense of any of the anti-social behaviors mentioned above. We strongly encourage role-playing, but cannot allow it to be done at the expense of others.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1236086&postcount=1

/duck ( i know part of this thread is for lols, but, ya know its covered in the PNP)

Seltius
08-25-2015, 01:43 AM
I had my normal 1-2 paragraph post ready and then thought about it. Not even worth it. Though I think I would like to see your kind of roleplaying without a keyboard to hide behind.

quido
08-25-2015, 01:44 AM
Knix

knix
08-25-2015, 01:57 AM
Knix

Hi Jeremy

How you been?

minakto
08-25-2015, 10:01 AM
6. Foul language is not permitted, in any language.

Excessive use of foul language in an inappropriate context, including swear words, real-world racial slurs, and other language that is not consistent with the fantasy environment and designed to hurt, will be considered a disruption. The existence of the filter (/filter) is not a license to be profane.

10. You may not abuse other players or Project 1999 Staff.

The following actions would be considered abuse:

o Hate Mongering - participation in or propagation of Hate literature, behavior, or propaganda related to real -world characteristics.

o Sexual Abuse or Harassment - untoward and/or unwelcome advances of a graphic and sexual nature. This includes, but is not limited to, virtual rape, overt sexual overtures, and stalking of a sexual nature.

o Attempting to Defraud a CS Representative - Petitioning with false information with the intent of receiving benefits as a result. This includes reporting bug deaths, experience or item loss, or accusing other players of wrongdoing without basis for it.

o Impersonating a Customer Service Representative - falsely representing yourself to another player as a Guide or a member of the Project 1999 Server Staff.

o CS Personnel Abuse - This includes, but is not limited to, sending excessive /petitions (as an individual or group), sending excessive /tells to a CS Representative, excessively using say or other channels to communicate to a CS Representative, making physical threats, or using abusive language against a CS Representative.

o Implying favoritism by members of the Project 1999 Staff - Implying that Guides, GM's, or Developers will show favor towards one or more parties involved in any given situation. This includes, but is not limited to, using threats of retribution or inferring that you will not be held accountable for your actions due to special consideration.

Note: This list is not all-inclusive. Other actions may be determined as abuse at the discretion of the P99CSR.

11. "Role-playing" does not grant license to violate these rules.

Though EverQuest is a Role-playing game, the claim of "Role-play" will not be accepted in defense of any of the anti-social behaviors mentioned above. We strongly encourage role-playing, but cannot allow it to be done at the expense of others.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1236086&postcount=1

/duck ( i know part of this thread is for lols, but, ya know its covered in the PNP)

Maybe you should read these closer like you should of read the LNS rules before you came to Red99. I ever see your dark filthy skin in any zone I'm in Dark elf, you will be liquidated.

knix
08-25-2015, 11:02 AM
Maybe you should read these closer like you should of read the LNS rules before you came to Red99. I ever see your dark filthy skin in any zone I'm in Dark elf, you will be liquidated.
I read the LNS rules, but clearly Empire individuals chose to not follow them, are you daring me to post the LNS rules in this thread too? Would it help you read them?

minakto
08-25-2015, 11:11 AM
I read the LNS rules, but clearly Empire individuals chose to not follow them, are you daring me to post the LNS rules in this thread too? Would it help you read them?

You've already posted rules that weren't relevant to the discussion regarding role playing as nobody was talking about real life, just ingame races, species and characters (erudites, dark elves, trolls ogres, gnomes etc).

You probably lack the reading comprehension for the LNS rules as well.

Ranndom
08-25-2015, 11:36 AM
I consider myself to be an erudite then

You'd be erudite like, not an erudite.

Efwan
08-25-2015, 12:07 PM
You're an idiot to think your blatant racism is veiled in any way.


http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2014645&postcount=172

This is one of the links I sent when I reported and got you banned. Not too long till this account is banned too I assume

Swish
08-25-2015, 12:10 PM
As if by magic, that link is dead...

minakto
08-25-2015, 12:17 PM
You're an idiot to think your blatant racism is veiled in any way.


http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2014645&postcount=172

This is one of the links I sent when I reported and got you banned. Not too long till this account is banned too I assume

I'm sorry you're an ignorant dark elf. You will feel the sting of my blade in your dark ebony skin. Your foul race doesn't belong here.

iruinedyourday
08-25-2015, 01:12 PM
god what I wouldn't give to be 14 again and think Im smart and funny by liking things that my parents told me is wrong and I dont understand because Ive lived such a sheltered life.

minakto
08-25-2015, 01:22 PM
god what I wouldn't give to be 14 again and think Im smart and funny by liking things that my parents told me is wrong and I dont understand because Ive lived such a sheltered life.

Ageism (also spelled "agism") is stereotyping and discriminating against individuals or groups on the basis of their age. Please refrain from this behavior or I will be forced to petition. Racism, xenophobia, transmisogyny, misogyny, ageism and ableism are not welcome on these forums.

iruinedyourday
08-25-2015, 02:11 PM
https://cdn-webimages.wimages.net/051aedadf1069d378845c4feac60bd1a05ca36-wm.jpg

Spyder73
08-25-2015, 02:23 PM
Role Playing i feel is encouraged - Hate mongering in a way that is obnoxious/offensive is not Role Playing. You cant just decide you're going to Role Play a Dwarven-pedophile-cannibal and go around telling everyone your going to rape their dead children and drink their coagulating blood. Saying you're a Gnome who hates Erudites and spewing hate speech at them is not roleplaying.

But superb Trolling - entertained me at work for awhile, something you probably know little about.

Zlain
08-25-2015, 04:33 PM
Role Playing i feel is encouraged - Hate mongering in a way that is obnoxious/offensive is not Role Playing. You cant just decide you're going to Role Play a Dwarven-pedophile-cannibal and go around telling everyone your going to rape their dead children and drink their coagulating blood. Saying you're a Gnome who hates Erudites and spewing hate speech at them is not roleplaying.

But superb Trolling - entertained me at work for awhile, something you probably know little about.

+1? minus the roleplaying stuff. no fan of that.

kildone
08-25-2015, 05:56 PM
Role Playing i feel is encouraged - Hate mongering in a way that is obnoxious/offensive is not Role Playing. You cant just decide you're going to Role Play a Dwarven-pedophile-cannibal and go around telling everyone your going to rape their dead children and drink their coagulating blood. Saying you're a Gnome who hates Erudites and spewing hate speech at them is not roleplaying.

But superb Trolling - entertained me at work for awhile, something you probably know little about.

Aww drat I just got my DPC up to level 5. Looks like I will have to find a different type of character to role play.

captnamazing
08-25-2015, 09:12 PM
Role Playing i feel is encouraged - Hate mongering in a way that is obnoxious/offensive is not Role Playing. You cant just decide you're going to Role Play a Dwarven-pedophile-cannibal and go around telling everyone your going to rape their dead children and drink their coagulating blood. Saying you're a Gnome who hates Erudites and spewing hate speech at them is not roleplaying.

But superb Trolling - entertained me at work for awhile, something you probably know little about.

TBH the dwarven pedophile cannibal and the gnome erudite hater sound like

GREAT ROLE PLAYING

Xaanka
08-25-2015, 11:01 PM
I received a disturbing message today friends. GM's and other staff have been banning people who are roleplayers and encourage violence against groups of ingame races such as gnomes, high elves, barbarians and erudites, calling it "hatespeech and racism." Is harmless roleplaying in a high fantasy environment not allowed anymore? Dungeons and Dragons typically have roleplaying against specific races, why is it forbidden on an Everquest Emulator?

Staff can we receive a clear message regarding the legality of such gameplay? Roleplaying is a classic and valuable mechanic that many players immerse themselves in.

lol maybe because it's thinly veiled racism, but you can prove me wrong when you show me the player who got banned for being racist against a Gnome, High Elf, or Barbarian.

nice shitty strawman tho

next.

Gustoo
08-26-2015, 12:55 AM
P.s. this would hardly be a problem if there was no terrible unclassic global ooc to use as an unclassic platform for role playing. If this was confined to the zone of the role player it would be a lot more classic and would mean level 1 first timers would be a lot less exposed to it. The place might even seem normal.

Xaanka
08-26-2015, 01:09 AM
P.s. this would hardly be a problem if there was no terrible unclassic global ooc to use as an unclassic platform for role playing. If this was confined to the zone of the role player it would be a lot more classic and would mean level 1 first timers would be a lot less exposed to it. The place might even seem normal.

/ooc is classic, if Ocean of Tears /ooc wasn't just like p99 red /ooc the server you played on probably sucked and was full of lames. also if you never got too drunk and fell off the boat you weren't playing this game right. hth

Shjade
08-26-2015, 02:17 AM
/ooc is classic, if Ocean of Tears /ooc wasn't just like p99 red /ooc the server you played on probably sucked and was full of lames. also if you never got too drunk and fell off the boat you weren't playing this game right. hth

/ooc is classic.

/ooc being global is not classic.

Pretty sure that's what they were saying.

(Though I'd add that on Tarew Marr, up as far as PoP, I never saw OOC that resembled R99's crap. If you think that means it was "full of lames," okay, but it sure seemed like a stable community to me.)

Koota
08-26-2015, 05:25 AM
man Ur such a good tuneweaver


fukin shiverback

full blown immersion brain rot

LostCause
08-26-2015, 07:01 AM
since its already not classic just add chat channels and remove ooc ;p

Spyder73
08-26-2015, 09:30 AM
What do you call a Erudite bard running through Freeport at Selo's speed?

Student Athlete

Knuckle
08-26-2015, 10:04 AM
If I keep Spirit of Cheetah memmed anytime I'm in Erudin will I be banned?

Xaanka
08-26-2015, 10:37 AM
oh hey look thinly veiled racism! those Erudites sure are something something

*rotted, liquefied brain falls out ear*

maskedmelon
08-26-2015, 11:17 AM
Their's still an incoming haymaker when Terry sees page one of Google images.

I don't understand why someone would be displeased with being referred to as a fantasy race of superior intellect. I've been called a Vulcan before and was pretty happy actually ^^ Whether it was intended as praise or not is largely irrelevant because it connotes a quality I along with society hold in high regard: smarts! ^^

minakto
08-26-2015, 12:00 PM
I sometimes roleplay, never once did a GM get involved.. less immersion maybe..

Did you roleplay a beaten and broken guildleader? You doing that pretty well lately.

maskedmelon
08-26-2015, 12:06 PM
On the topic of discrimination, perceived or actual, that is what communities are for. We find others who are like us and seek to destroy those who are not. This is a universal truth.

It is important to note however that "like us" is not universally understood in the same fashion. I for example place little emphasis on pigmentation beyond socio-economic indicators in determining who is like me. Accordingly I do not identify with racist ideology. It is nonsensical and downright nasty to actively detest someone for something beyond their control.

On the other hand, I don't particularly like fat people. Beyond the behavioral implications of fatness (impaired self control, disregard for others, etc.) to me fat people are unattractive. I don't hate them for how they look, but I don't like them for it either. It is the behavioral connotations of their fatness that actively diminishes my respect for them as fellow human beings.

As a community if we feel this fellow (the OP) does not conform to our standards then it is incumbent upon us to drive him away, but let us not dress our own intolerance in a guise of distaste for the same.

thufir
08-26-2015, 12:22 PM
On the other hand, I don't particularly like fat people. Beyond the behavioral implications of fatness (impaired self control, disregard for others, etc.) to me fat people are unattractive. I don't hate them for how they look, but I don't like them for it either. It is the behavioral connotations of their fatness that actively diminishes my respect for them as fellow human beings.

this equating of fatness with immorality, and thus (unconsciously) non-fatness with morality, is why ppl like jared fogle can get away with molesting underage girls for so long

fyi

maskedmelon
08-26-2015, 12:59 PM
this equating of fatness with immorality, and thus (unconsciously) non-fatness with morality, is why ppl like jared fogle can get away with molesting underage girls for so long

fyi

I was unaware morality was such a binary paradigm. Even if we were to accept the premise of your implied proposition that "all people who are fat are immoral, therefore all people who are not fat are moral" as true, the argument is not sound because the premise does not speak to immorality of people who are not fat. The conclusion therefore cannot be assured.

The problem is one of faulty logic, not notions of morality.

On a side note I think it is absurd to argue being fat is immoral. Inconsiderate? I tend to think so, but immoral? No.