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Kaahbal
08-20-2015, 05:10 PM
Net of the deep sea was offhand only for about the first year of velious, Was later (august/2002) modified to also be wearable in backslot.

Alot of players comments confirm this at http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5995

Ele
08-20-2015, 05:48 PM
A lot of the top end items are of mixed eras.

Some are pre-June 2001 upgrade.
Some are post-June 2001 upgrade.
Others are post-2hb upgrade in October 2001.
A couple of others had post-Luclin damage mods, since been fixed.

Some priceless weapons have the post-upgrade 45/44 ratios, while its primal companion has the original 33/35 ratio.

Colgate
08-20-2015, 06:05 PM
aug 2001, not 2002, that it added back slot to the item

this is correct within our timeline

Ruako
08-20-2015, 06:50 PM
aug 2001, not 2002, that it added back slot to the item

this is correct within our timeline

Velious Release date December 5, 2000

So not correct with current timeline

Kaahbal
08-20-2015, 06:55 PM
Velious was released late 2000, so it should be offhand only for about 9-10 months

Colgate
08-20-2015, 07:10 PM
every item is post-revamp here currently

Kaahbal
08-20-2015, 07:12 PM
every item is post-revamp here currently

Didnt know this. Have barely had time to explore P99 velious. Well atleast this has now been reported and can be fixed.

Colgate
08-20-2015, 07:14 PM
they intentionally have everything post-revamp right now

Kaahbal
08-20-2015, 07:15 PM
they intentionally have everything post-revamp right now

Interesting. Source?

Man0warr
08-20-2015, 08:36 PM
Nilbog said it somewhere. Basically was too much trouble to track down when the revamps happened for each items because it happened over several patches and wasn't really mentioned in the notes what was getting upgraded.

Ele
08-21-2015, 11:35 AM
every item is post-revamp here currently

No, they aren't.

azeth
08-21-2015, 11:37 AM
every item is post-revamp here currently

mrylokar's dagger of vengeance isn't.

mrylokar's dagger of blood is currently dropping.

Colgate
08-21-2015, 04:03 PM
hmm, that's the only one i've heard of then

nilbog
08-21-2015, 04:48 PM
they intentionally have everything post-revamp right now

Not exactly.

What needs to happen for this is a compilation of what items changed, when, and how.

It's not exactly a difficult task, but it is certainly time consuming. We opted to not hold back Velious release simply for timelining items.

That being said, I would like all the items to be corrected at some point, but due to the amount of research necessary, it should probably be a community effort.

mrylokar's dagger of vengeance isn't.

mrylokar's dagger of blood is currently dropping.

This is one of the only items I changed, as an example to the other developers how the timeline changes function.

For example, Mrylokar's Dagger of Blood will exist until ~June2001, at which time it dynamically becomes Mrylokar's Dagger of Vengeance.

maximum
08-21-2015, 04:50 PM
What needs to happen for this is a compilation of what items changed, when, and how.

Bump: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90916

Ele
08-21-2015, 05:10 PM
What needs to happen for this is a compilation of what items changed, when, and how.

It's not exactly a difficult task, but it is certainly time consuming. We opted to not hold back Velious release simply for timelining items.

That being said, I would like all the items to be corrected at some point, but due to the amount of research necessary, it should probably be a community effort.


If people have updates or want editing status, PM me. There is plenty more research to do for this to get anywhere close to done.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqGWabb1EBM2dHh6NVdMUl8wbURGdHRpQ0lNajE0X 2c&usp=sharing

diamondfist
08-21-2015, 05:44 PM
Not exactly.

What needs to happen for this is a compilation of what items changed, when, and how.

It's not exactly a difficult task, but it is certainly time consuming. We opted to not hold back Velious release simply for timelining items.

That being said, I would like all the items to be corrected at some point, but due to the amount of research necessary, it should probably be a community effort.



This is one of the only items I changed, as an example to the other developers how the timeline changes function.

For example, Mrylokar's Dagger of Blood will exist until ~June2001, at which time it dynamically becomes Mrylokar's Dagger of Vengeance.

Is there a list of the other items that you have dropping as the pre-upgraded versions?

minakto
08-26-2015, 01:07 AM
Not exactly.

What needs to happen for this is a compilation of what items changed, when, and how.

It's not exactly a difficult task, but it is certainly time consuming. We opted to not hold back Velious release simply for timelining items.

That being said, I would like all the items to be corrected at some point, but due to the amount of research necessary, it should probably be a community effort.



This is one of the only items I changed, as an example to the other developers how the timeline changes function.

For example, Mrylokar's Dagger of Blood will exist until ~June2001, at which time it dynamically becomes Mrylokar's Dagger of Vengeance.

Do the items looted prior to the change "upgrade" to the new ones? or do you have prenerf version forever?

For example, does the Mrylokar's Dagger of Blood suddenly become a Dagger of Vengeance if you have it in your inventory?

Ele
08-26-2015, 08:19 AM
Do the items looted prior to the change "upgrade" to the new ones? or do you have prenerf version forever?

For example, does the Mrylokar's Dagger of Blood suddenly become a Dagger of Vengeance if you have it in your inventory?

They are retroactive upgrades, unless otherwise noted.

nilbog
08-13-2021, 03:45 PM
Right now, the stats get upgraded in June2001, so I assume the change happened at that time.

I see a comment stating it dropped as Back equippable in August2001, so I am going to apply the change at June2001.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5995&p=1#m99744267315191

If further evidence is found that there was a change between June and August 2000, post it up and we'll change it again.

Fixed, pending update