Dain head tormax

[Gzaz]

Even with faction and going through quest dialogue tormax is swallowing dains head with no reward which I also have an active petition for

[Erati]

what was your faction when u turned in?

[maximum]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207417

[nilbog]

Tormax currently requires ally faction for:

-Dain's Head turn in
-Yelinak's Head turn in

His hail text (amiable or better) refers to tasks. If there should be faction requirements for him to discuss [tasks], I'd like to know what they are.

[Man0warr]

Discussing the task and hand in faction required should be the same - like Kael/Skyshrine/Thurgadin armor NPCs. Then people would know for sure if they could hand in.

[Colgate]

dain's head @ tormax quest:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=1027

2003 post:
After getting my faction to amiable (even before I cast my 300 faction change buff being I am a chanter ... which got me to kindly) I have been waiting two weeks to catch KT up before he is killed.

Yesterday he finally popped!

I was lucky enough to be standing right at his spot to see him pop. It was kind of weird though, because when I first looked at his throne where he spawns, there was actually another NPC standing there. I can't recall the NPC's name, but I had never seen it before and it's not one of the normal NPC's that hang out around KT's throne.

After about a minute of sitting there, I then saw King Tormax pop right before my eyes and the other NPC was nowehre to be found. It was kind of creepy. =)

Anyways, I then gladly hailed KT and handed him Dain's Head to receive my Belt of Dwarf Slaying.

My guild then took him down swiftly and gobbled up some pretty nice loot.

NOTE: I was told that after you hail him, if he talks to you and offers you the quest, then your faction is good enough. I actually hailed him while amiable before casting my faction buff on him and he offered me the quest. However, just to be sure I cast my faction buff on him, which took me to kindly. I then handed him Dain's Head.

2002 post:
Looks to me like high amiable is required (as is for the Tormax Head quest with Yelinak).

I can guarantee that Kindly is sufficient, however, having finally completed the **** quest after 3 months of periodic dwarf head donations to Bvellos. Never killed a single dwarf or dragon for the faction. Ha.




tormax's head quest @ yelinak:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=1289

2005 post:
Going to go cry now. Everyone else loves me but Yelniak says I'm a lump of talking refuse. =( But wait . . . what's this? I'm an enchantress! /cast collaboration!! /watches as Lord Yelinak's demeanor towards her turns from apprehensive to amiable and tries the Hail once more.

/skips merrily home with her new White Dragon Helm =)

2003 post:
EDIT: 24 Frost Giant Toes, 10 Helms, 6 Storm giant toes and I am now amiable. The quest WORKS (so I guess I am high amiable...). Woot! Thanks for the boots Yeli! (Now get ready for some dragon smack-down you giant toe loving freak!)

2003 post:
2) You only need mid to high Amiable faction to do the turn-in. You don't need even close to max Ally. Lord Yelinak was indifferent to me this morning when I conned him, I used Collaboration (I'm an Enchanter, raises faction by 300), and he was Amiable and responded to me allowing me to do the turn-in. From what I understand, Indifferent faction range is 0 to 99, and Amiable is 100 to 499. So with Collaboration, I had between 300 and 399, which puts my faction range in mid to high Amiable range.

3) As someone else posted, if Yelinak doesn't respond to you, you're not standing in the correct place. You need to be standing under him, pretty much in his stomach to get the hail response. If you're in the correct place, you will *always* get a response of some sort. If your faction isn't high enough, he'll call you talking refuse or some other form of insult, if your faction is high enough, he'll talk and give you the quest.

2003 post:
Went & Handed in another 10 Helms & conned him again, was still Amiably, Hailed him & .......
Still nothing ......

So I decided to get right under him, standing inside him even, & I hailed him again. Woot, it worked, he talked to me, I handed him the White DRagon Helm, got the sword, handed the sword back, & got the boots !!!!!

there are several more posts than that, but yaw, most 2002/2003 era posts say you only need amiable

however, for yelinak's head to tormax, several posts suggest you only need dubious, several suggest amiable

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=1028

2008 post:
FYI I did the turn in while dubious to Tormax, plus he was the Fabled version heh.

[Thu Mar 06 19:36:25 2008] You say, 'Hail, The Fabled King Tormax'
[Thu Mar 06 19:36:25 2008] The Fabled King Tormax says 'Why do I even suffer such lesser beings in my presence? Remove yourself, Half Elf, else I'll have my guards relieve you of your head.'

I just handed him the head...

[Thu Mar 06 19:36:42 2008] Your faction standing with King Tormax got better.
[Thu Mar 06 19:36:42 2008] Your faction standing with Kromzek could not possibly get any better.
[Thu Mar 06 19:36:42 2008] Your faction standing with Yelinak got worse.
[Thu Mar 06 19:36:42 2008] Your faction standing with Dain Frostreaver IV got worse.
[Thu Mar 06 19:36:42 2008] You gain party experience!!
[Thu Mar 06 19:36:48 2008] The Fabled King Tormax judges you amiably -- what would you like your tombstone to say?

Went from dubious to Amiable. Nice.


2003 post:
I handed in heads to Bvellos till I got to dubious with Tormax, then used sneak to get indiff. Have new groovy gloves!

Melodion
Bard 65

2003 post:
As of 5/14/2003, I was able to turn in my Yelinak head to Tormax with high dubious faction. I assume the same will be for the belt.

2002 post:
They say high amiable to do this. Warmly is safe bet. 20 named dragons in WW will get you to amiable Zek so you can turn in dorf heads.


tl;dr nowhere does anyone suggest you need ally faction to do these turn-ins

[Gzaz]

This is the information I followed also and it swallows my head I was able to go through whole quest dialogue with tormax now I'm waiting on my petition to be looked at😢

[nilbog]

Pending update:

King Tormax will accept Dain or Yelinak's Head at amiable or better faction

[Colgate]

cool, will the tormax head turn into yelinak/dain be lowered to amiable as well?

[nilbog]

cool, will the tormax head turn into yelinak/dain be lowered to amiable as well?

Not unless it should be, no.

Currently:

Dain requires ally for King Tormax Head
Yelinak requires kindly for Tormax Head

[Colgate]

my above post with all the quotes/links encompassed dain head turn-in to tormax, yelinak head turn-in to tormax, and tormax head turn-in to yelinak

the only one that seemed iffy on what was required was the yelinak head turn in to tormax, where people were claiming they could do it at dubious, one claimed indifferent(when sneaking), and a few claimed the rumor was amiable

the general consensus seems to be if they give the quest text responses(at amiable), then you can do the turn in

[Colgate]

the only one that's hard to find information on is the tormax head turn-in to dain, there are only like three posts on that page all from 2009 and beyond, the 2009 post saying that kindly works:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=4251

[nilbog]

Create a new thread with specifics, so perhaps other people may research as well.

[Skydash]

I think you need to keep in mind those posts are from post 2002. All of the faction requirements were softened during SoL, making most of those quotes irrelevant.

Now to find facts to back that up lol.

[Daldaen]

I think you need to keep in mind those posts are from post 2002. All of the faction requirements were softened during SoL, making most of those quotes irrelevant.

Now to find facts to back that up lol.

This has been said numerous times with absolutely 0 facts backing up the notion that they were softened. Need evidence from either patch notes, quotes about it working much lower, guilds complaining about "in my day..", etc.

Something beyond random 2015 claims that they were softened because people thought back in 2001 the faction was hard.

[Gzaz]

Pending update:

King Tormax will accept Dain or Yelinak's Head at amiable or better faction

Am I able to get my dain head returned then please

[Ele]

Am I able to get my dain head returned then please

You need to make a petition in the petition forum, not bug reports.

Adding dates and faction levels and a character name will help your cause.

[Shiftin]

You should be able to hand in the dain head at indifferent to King Tormax. Tigole did it on live while sneaking and it worked as is chronicled here:

http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-04-05

I ninja looted the head. Now, I had asked around some and was told that to do the quest you only needed indifferent faction. I tried to put together a group to help me clear out some giants to get to ol' Tormax. Unfortunately, no one was in the mood (funny how no one is in the mood when the shield guy isn't up). Well, luckily Kaemon was the hero of the night. He came to Kael, stood on King T's throne and summoned me. So I was standing there behind Tormax thinking, "If I hand him this head and nothing happens. . .I'ma be Numero Uno on a lot of shitlists." With palms a-sweating I handed King T (who on a good day, scowls at me, ready to attack) the head of Dain Fleshbeater. Luckily, unlike my 8th Coldain ring, I managed to not fuck this quest up beyond recognition. Felt really nice putting this bad-boy on tonight:
http://www.legacyofsteel.net/home/archives/2001-04-05/beltofdorfslaying.jpg

[Pyrocat]

Nice find!

[Colgate]

hmm would also explain the people who were claiming that they turned in yelinak's head while dubious/apprehensive/indifferent(from sneaking)

perhaps tormax doesn't give a fuck about faction?

[Daldaen]

You should be able to hand in the dain head at indifferent to King Tormax. Tigole did it on live while sneaking and it worked as is chronicled here:

http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-04-05

This is exactly why I don't believe the people who claim the faction was watered down in Luclin and then provide no proof.

I'm guessing most city leader quests really were just requiring non-KoS for turnins because the factions themselves are such pains in the ass to do.

I did the Yelinak head at Apprehensive to Tormax on Mac, and the turn in jumped me to Amiable.

[Colgate]

bump

according to that, should be able to turn in dain/yelinak heads to tormax @ dubious

[RedXIII]

Pending update:

King Tormax will accept Dain or Yelinak's Head at amiable or better faction

Is this live yet? Or once it is you guys gonna release a patch notes?

Asking because the server went down late night on last sunday.

[Croco]

This is exactly why I don't believe the people who claim the faction was watered down in Luclin and then provide no proof.

I'm guessing most city leader quests really were just requiring non-KoS for turnins because the factions themselves are such pains in the ass to do.

I did the Yelinak head at Apprehensive to Tormax on Mac, and the turn in jumped me to Amiable.

bump for classic

dain head to tormax should work at indiff or better

[Croco]

https://i.imgur.com/mSXvHqO.png

bump for classic

[Croco]

Bump for in era evidence that indiff or better was all that's needed, can we get a dev response?

[Croco]

daily bump

[nilbog]

https://i.imgur.com/mSXvHqO.png

bump for classic

What is the date/source of this image?

[getsome]

You should be able to hand in the dain head at indifferent to King Tormax. Tigole did it on live while sneaking and it worked as is chronicled here:

http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-04-05

Found on page 2. Link is dead now. Tried way back machine but getting a few time outs.

[Croco]

What is the date/source of this image?

date is 4-5-2001 source is the legacy of steel archives

The link isn't dead exactly but you have to go to legacyofsteel.net first then click over to their archives, even though it's the same url once you get there for whatever reason you can't click through from the actual link.

[nilbog]

I believe this is good enough evidence to lower the requirement from amiable to indifferent.


Fixed, pending update

-King Tormax's faction requirement for turn-ins lowered from amiable->indifferent.



Thanks, Jeff Kaplan?

[Tune]

is this live yet?