Is Red the way to go?

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

Obviously, I know the answer from most, or maybe all of you... but I suppose I'll go into what I'd like to do with my time on EQ, and would it be reasonable to accomplish starting fresh; with nothing.


First off, I'd like to play a Cleric, or a Healer at best. Cleric>Shaman|Refuse to play as a Druid though, unless they are welcomed in group as much as the next healer (which they aren't from my perspective).

If not a Cleric... I'm honestly not sure what to play. Best with Cleric for PvE, did all the top end raiding back in the day as one, GG as Cleric PvE, but they're not so great at PvP, and seems they suck at soloing; at least not geared... I'd have to rely on grouping, which I'm also unsure if any of that goes on with the current population/it being a PvP server.

I suppose I'd just roll Mage, or Necro... but meh.


I am very much PvE oriented. I love grouping, raiding, and organized PvP (though I doubt there's any of that here from what I've been reading).

One of my concerns though is; the 280% XP Boost or whatever. It's tough enough having plat for spells early on, but hitting some of these levels quickly does not help that either.


I'm just rather curious how the grouping goes. Do I need to worry if I roll Cleric, finding groups? I'm assuming yes, but soloing is fine too with the boost I suppose. Or does that only apply to GROUPS?


I know this is long, and some people can't comprehend reading anything that isn't shorter than a paragraph on the interwebz, but if anyone cares to answer any of my concerns; I'd love to hear them.

[Colgate]

the exp bonus is for groups

50% flat bonus and 40% for each additional group member

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

So one is fucked if they want to solo, or are forced to solo.

Good to know.

Though fine if I role Cleric, if I want to get tossed around by twinks and the like if not grouped.

[krazyGlue]

Stay away .

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

Stay away .

K.

[DRAGONBAIT]

could be if the ruleset changed and if nerds who are 4 years ahead didnt be such hypocrits. Even now that p1999 is official people who would play red wont roll on a 4 yeard old server where everyone is bis and has 123987812390 lvl 60 characters due to bonus exp. PvP players like competition, wich is zero on this server atm.

I think now that p1999 got official ( or wathever ) devs should really think about giving red99 another try, i cant speak about blue health but i know red99 could be another place, wich it isnt and its a pity, im sure loads of pvp players who want a fresh classic experience are out there, many more than in here atm. they just have to know this option exists and its not fucked up with 4 yeard old vets of the server who have it locked

[DRAGONBAIT]

is it hard to transfer all the red code to the test server and just open another pvp server fresh and classic? u would see for yourself what would happen if u get the proper ads on the proper forums ( wich is damn easy ). Just do it, and see for urself what would happen, how many pvp players would roll there, i tell u know the outcome, easy to imagine really. dont wipe red99, dont close it, just add another fresh and classic and see for yourselves, if noone plays u can close it again.

and i said classic, no bonus exp shits etc.

[Uuruk]

Sirken, can we perma ban krazy and all his accounts? Not only is he a human monk but he also is an RMTer and hurting the population of the server.

[Swish]

So one is fucked if they want to solo, or are forced to solo.

Good to know.

Though fine if I role Cleric, if I want to get tossed around by twinks and the like if not grouped.

Still quicker than soloing on blue, but yes... slower than at least getting one other person on board.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

Sirken, can we perma ban krazy and all his accounts? Not only is he a human monk but he also is an RMTer and hurting the population of the server.

Obviously it takes more convincing than a simple "stay away" comment to make up my decision.

If there were an Xp boost for soloers, especially a Cleric who may not get a group early on due to population; I'd consider it... unless I won't have an issue finding a group while leveling that is even better.

Though I have other concerns still. Hoping anyone can comment on their behalf so I can form a better decision.


Still quicker than soloing on blue, but yes... slower than at least getting one other person on board.

Oh... I was thinking 50% bonus for first group member; then 40% after per. So 50% quicker solo? Hmm... that alone won't give me a reason to make the switch. I suppose I should log on after I sleep and take a look at the level ranges.

[Kable]

Yes. Yes. YES.

Red EQ is lots of fun. Give it a real try.

[DRAGONBAIT]

aits really a nonsense to solo, so if u cant find a group just roll an alt id tell. On the other hand if u use /ooc is really easy to get a good gro going, plenty of people playing alts on non raiding times etc, with the bonus exp in a full grp rolling as it should the exp is as fast and if u were getting a powerlvl i tell u, been there done that. is so damn fast its a nonsense to not stay on /ooc forming a grp even for half an hour, it pays off.

on another note, is the same with any class, is hard to find grps if u dont get vocal on /ooc and start gathering people and sending tells. any class can do that so any class can get into a good group and amass exp at a very fast rate, any other way of lvling makes non sense really. Plus dont bother with the plat rate or anythng, ull lvl so fast soon ull be gettin little gear and then u can be on planar raids and gear up easy

[DRAGONBAIT]

everyone has lots of alts so u can find almost any lvl range of any class willing to join a good group, classes are not a problem also

[rollin5k]

It's just s game log in and find out yourself for fucks sake.

[Tradesonred]

Obviously it takes more convincing than a simple "stay away" comment to make up my decision.


How about "read the forums for a couple of days, thats what you can expect the pop to look like at end game"

[Gardur]

Red is a PvP server. If you're PVE specialist then join empire.

Don't solo, ever. Especially on a cleric.

Roll a toon, join thunderdome, level up and make some friends. Learn to love pvp and join a smaller guild or join Empire if you don't.

Every other guild is heavily involved in pvp at all times.

[grannock]

Gardur empire is involved in more yt every day than all other guilds combined. We are always looking for a fight, you guys hide from us, dont try and spin that a different way.

[Genedin]

I played on tarrew marr back in the day

If you want no stress everquest with the EC tunnel like classic but no ability to raid end game content without dedicating all of your time to everquest play blue.

If you want a lot less population but the ability to gear out your character and have the option to raid kunark with a small crew of pals or raid velious with 100 zerglings and get uncontested loot with occasional pvp at your bind while naked play red

I've tried both frankly I prefer red.

[knix]

Oh i got this one.

Welcome to red, I have just left through the exit door here. I rolled a cleric with a new to red guild called TMO. My team was always in need of clerics and I leveled up quickly, YES there will be attacks by decked out twinks, my groups were often attacked by epiced, bis for kunark, while my guildmates/groupmates were wearing cloth. There will be nights where you have to walk away from the box because absolutely every zone you go to there will be empire alts there hunting you down to harass you. (one night we did this routine, till finally campign for the night. seb,chardok,hole,permafrost,hole.) I started with nothing, got a few handme downs from guildmates. I was able to purchase most of my spells as i leveled, filling out my book after i was able to group in SEB. I had every slot filled with something other than cloth at level 60, but i was missing over 1300 mana from my where my cleric on blue was sitting. (lack of gear), and my resists were lower than blue as well.

Well, then Empire decided that TMO was more than a cute puppy on the server and activity harassed, zone-line camped, violated PNP continuously. This is a one guild server, there is calls for "we want pvp" we want more players, but they grief off any attempt to to compete before competitors get feet under them. yes, you can petition and 3-4 weeks later the petitions get answered, I love Sirken I am not saying anything bad about him you cannot expect one volunteer GM to be able to handle all the petitions for shitty behavior, but the only way to change the shitty behavior is to petition it and get the violator suspended, but it loses its meaning to the violator if its 4 weeks down the road, and like me, it does nothing for the petitioner because i am gone. I initially left blue to play here cause i was tired of petitionquest, i chose to not play it on red. pvp to take a camp, pvp before dragon encounter sure, but what goes on here TO ME is mostly griefing.

My advise is to not roll on red. Unless you are already an empire minion. Then good luck watching all the good spoils go to the "inner core" that talk on special elf chat or something cause they can't talk in /gu , or in their ts.

Unless Rogean changes something the red server will continue to be a place where the server population is low. Sometimes I felt like Mad max going up against all the crazys, sometimes It felt like we might conquer, other times, it just felt like the insane asylum with clear cut rules, being totally thrown out, cause you are playing against someone on opiates

[Gardur]

Gardur empire is involved in more yt every day than all other guilds combined. We are always looking for a fight, you guys hide from us, dont try and spin that a different way.

Basically I'm saying if he doesnt want pvp there's only one choice. Only in Empire can you successfully avoid it.

Also i have never hid from Empire fights.

Ask around.

[bubur]

server is great. if you're new, you must disregard all opinions on what pvp is

come in with no expectations and you may be pleasantly surprised.

just be a normal, pleasant person, with the general goal of enjoying your time in an interesting eq world, you'll probably enjoy it here. you'll get ganked, but be willing to calmly chat after that pvp encounter. this can sometimes grant you a free pass from a player or even result in some items being thrown your way

if you're getting griefed by someone who overpowers you and won't leave you alone after one request, just remember sometimes all it takes is a 10-15 minute /camp to lose someone's interest. they drink tears, so don't give them a reason to stay.

its a good experience. just made all the better by coming into it knowing your place and just trying to learn and having zero expectations

[LulzSect]

that talk on special elf chat or something cause they can't talk

lol

[bubur]

i think the way people get burned out, especially recently, is that they joined guilds really early (whether at lv 10 or at 50+ before meeting anyone), got sucked into full immersion mode, and learned a lot of what they know from the last 2 months or so of server drama

guilds are great, but don't be afraid to roam guildless. its ur game and time investment

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

How about "read the forums for a couple of days, thats what you can expect the pop to look like at end game"


How about "obviously I have been reading the forums, these and other sections of it and I keep hearing both sides of the coin, but I'd like to form my decision not based just off of them, but more opinions on the matter while raising other questions/concerns of my own that some decent folk could possibly answer". Yeah.

It's clear from my post I have been doing some research, I see all the "consider red today" posts, I see there's a Zerg squad contesting Velious, I see the cries and drama. So how about either maybe try to help me form a better conclusion, or just don't even bother wasting yours, and ultimately my time on posting garbage here. Thanks.


Anyways... I'm no stranger to PvP, or even dealing with a Zerg that populates a majority of the server. I used to play on Rallos, Vallon, then Sullon Zek servers. I'm no stranger to PvP, I enjoy it; but I enjoy PvE as well (raiding). I understand that may be just a dream unless I join (insert X guild) here, and even then would I see loot? I really don't give a shit if I do; I just like raiding in general, and I'm no leech; I've played a Cleric since Kunark and know the class and the game pretty damn well.


I was merely just asking if this was worth my time, if it is at all possible to make my mark here if I am dedicated enough (I am), and if grouping does occur while leveling up.


I pretty much had most of my answers made clear here by the replies, that I had not seen in other posts; so I thank you guys who replied with something useful to say.


Cheers.

[bubur]

yes to both questions in bold

if youre talking about fame you have some pretty epic meltdowns to compete with, but i believe in u

[grannock]

Everyone is mad that empire actually has a velious ready raid force. We griefed the other larger zerg force into submission about 3 weeks ago. Their splintered remanents are all the people crying about the health of the server even though pop is 300+ primetime every day.

We will link the vulak loots in ooc, dont worry.

[grannock]

And yes, to answer your question server is thriving, in 5 months u could be a pretty big factor.

[sktank]

Starting as a cleric might be a bit rough without gear and there won't be too many people to group with but you may find a few. Joining this server you should make up your mind right away on wheather your going to raid and join empire or if you prefer to be a more casual player and do whatever you enjoy.
Imo make a Necro and get some plat. Buy a weapon and some AC/ wis and start from there. Since you will be soloing a bit

[Defari]

I joined the server recently. Its still pretty easy to find groups if you are in the popular zones on the server. If you do crushbone around level 10, unrest from 15-20, mistmoore from 20-40 and then lguk/sol b 40+ you should be able to level up without much soloing.

[Tradesonred]

How about "obviously I have been reading the forums, these and other sections of it and I keep hearing both sides of the coin, but I'd like to form my decision not based just off of them, but more opinions on the matter while raising other questions/concerns of my own that some decent folk could possibly answer". Yeah.

It's clear from my post I have been doing some research, I see all the "consider red today" posts, I see there's a Zerg squad contesting Velious, I see the cries and drama. So how about either maybe try to help me form a better conclusion, or just don't even bother wasting yours, and ultimately my time on posting garbage here. Thanks.


Its not garbage i was genuinely trying to be helpful. If you find the stuff thats posted in general funny or witty, if you dont find people like pumped or eslade unbearably stupid, if you can handle the endless manbaby arguing, congrats, you pass, you should roll a toon here.

[LulzSect]

Man, even new players don't like you.

YikeS

[Casey VII]

Oh i got this one.

Welcome to red, I have just left through the exit door here. I rolled a cleric with a new to red guild called TMO. My team was always in need of clerics and I leveled up quickly, YES there will be attacks by decked out twinks, my groups were often attacked by epiced, bis for kunark, while my guildmates/groupmates were wearing cloth. There will be nights where you have to walk away from the box because absolutely every zone you go to there will be empire alts there hunting you down to harass you. (one night we did this routine, till finally campign for the night. seb,chardok,hole,permafrost,hole.) I started with nothing, got a few handme downs from guildmates. I was able to purchase most of my spells as i leveled, filling out my book after i was able to group in SEB. I had every slot filled with something other than cloth at level 60, but i was missing over 1300 mana from my where my cleric on blue was sitting. (lack of gear), and my resists were lower than blue as well.

Well, then Empire decided that TMO was more than a cute puppy on the server and activity harassed, zone-line camped, violated PNP continuously. This is a one guild server, there is calls for "we want pvp" we want more players, but they grief off any attempt to to compete before competitors get feet under them. yes, you can petition and 3-4 weeks later the petitions get answered, I love Sirken I am not saying anything bad about him you cannot expect one volunteer GM to be able to handle all the petitions for shitty behavior, but the only way to change the shitty behavior is to petition it and get the violator suspended, but it loses its meaning to the violator if its 4 weeks down the road, and like me, it does nothing for the petitioner because i am gone. I initially left blue to play here cause i was tired of petitionquest, i chose to not play it on red. pvp to take a camp, pvp before dragon encounter sure, but what goes on here TO ME is mostly griefing.

My advise is to not roll on red. Unless you are already an empire minion. Then good luck watching all the good spoils go to the "inner core" that talk on special elf chat or something cause they can't talk in /gu , or in their ts.

Unless Rogean changes something the red server will continue to be a place where the server population is low. Sometimes I felt like Mad max going up against all the crazys, sometimes It felt like we might conquer, other times, it just felt like the insane asylum with clear cut rules, being totally thrown out, cause you are playing against someone on opiates

talk to your officers who recruited the riff raff we specifically told you not to

otherwise you would have received help from us

does no one understand that or do they forget

[Uuruk]

I mean nobody wants you on Red anyway Knix. Do they teach you how to loot your corpse on Blue because that seemed to be a hiccup for you on Red.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

Aright, I get the whole TMO / Empire nonsense; please don't roll that into yet another thread; especially mine. It's crap like that, which steers some potential people from moving over here to play with you guys, whether with or against.

God damn.

[JayN]

*WARNING PLAYING ON RED MAY LEAD TO MADNESS*

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187267&highlight=mace+attack

Stay blue stay sane

consider red friend!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=685_1427700816

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

Alright... played a Necro til 10 after just a couple hours and literally had no PP to buy spells. I figured this would happen.

I'm re-rolling now as a Cleric, and I'm sure will have the same issue, but I suppose it's probably just best to solo early on to at least be able to purchase my "Healing" (14) spell (seems I can Courage/Center heal just fine until then in CB), and... blah. Almost wish I could turn off Xp gain, or if the "usual" ways of getting Plat were viable here (CB Pads/Belts).



Either way, server doesn't seem as bad as the posts make them out to be. Lots of QQing, whining, and crying going on in OOC, and certainly no sign of intelligent life forms to be found in most of the discussions to be had.

Despite all that, people seem to be pretty cool, and quite helpful right off the bat. Though, I am certain that will change later on once I'm leveled, but it's all in fun I suppose. Though I feel some of you have serious psychological issues, or merely need to just get laid for once... but who am I to judge?!

Either way, thanks for the input folks (most of you). See you in-game!


IGN: Violinist

[DdarkED]

i found the rabid animal quest in qeynos a great way to get spell money for my first toon even if its a little outa the way. plenty of low lv options for getting your bankroll started.

[shimonuh]

Once you get past the twink bracket, it gets fun

just run around with pals

[DRAGONBAIT]

Alright... played a Necro til 10 after just a couple hours and literally had no PP to buy spells. I figured this would happen.

I'm re-rolling now as a Cleric, and I'm sure will have the same issue, but I suppose it's probably just best to solo early on to at least be able to purchase my "Healing" (14) spell (seems I can Courage/Center heal just fine until then in CB), and... blah. Almost wish I could turn off Xp gain, or if the "usual" ways of getting Plat were viable here (CB Pads/Belts).



Either way, server doesn't seem as bad as the posts make them out to be. Lots of QQing, whining, and crying going on in OOC, and certainly no sign of intelligent life forms to be found in most of the discussions to be had.






Despite all that, people seem to be pretty cool, and quite helpful right off the bat. Though, I am certain that will change later on once I'm leveled, but it's all in fun I suppose. Though I feel some of you have serious psychological issues, or merely need to just get laid for once... but who am I to judge?!

Either way, thanks for the input folks (most of you). See you in-game!


IGN: Violinist



i only read the first sentence, MY FRIEND PLEASE KILL DECAYING SKELETONS AND SELL A STACK OF BONE CHIPS, repeat if u need more spells, thanks. u will get 2 or 3 in the time u get to lvl 4. thats 10pp u can get for each one, a good ammount of spells, welcome to everquest my friend, this is what it is.

people need bonechips and batwings tbh xd

[Swish]

Alright... played a Necro til 10 after just a couple hours and literally had no PP to buy spells. I figured this would happen.

I'm re-rolling now as a Cleric, and I'm sure will have the same issue, but I suppose it's probably just best to solo early on to at least be able to purchase my "Healing" (14) spell (seems I can Courage/Center heal just fine until then in CB), and... blah. Almost wish I could turn off Xp gain, or if the "usual" ways of getting Plat were viable here (CB Pads/Belts).



Either way, server doesn't seem as bad as the posts make them out to be. Lots of QQing, whining, and crying going on in OOC, and certainly no sign of intelligent life forms to be found in most of the discussions to be had.

Despite all that, people seem to be pretty cool, and quite helpful right off the bat. Though, I am certain that will change later on once I'm leveled, but it's all in fun I suppose. Though I feel some of you have serious psychological issues, or merely need to just get laid for once... but who am I to judge?!

Either way, thanks for the input folks (most of you). See you in-game!


IGN: Violinist

It's an acquired sense of humor in ooc. Once you "get it", you'll enjoy the back and forth that goes on. If you can scrape some spare plat together I'll make you up some stat JC'd items, resist items, HP rings...whatever. Just PM me, JCer parked in NFP bank.

If you've got some blue plat that's not being used, consider transferring some to red @ 3:1

[DeadlyReza]

It's an acquired sense of humor in ooc. Once you "get it", you'll enjoy the back and forth that goes on. If you can scrape some spare plat together I'll make you up some stat JC'd items, resist items, HP rings...whatever. Just PM me, JCer parked in NFP bank.

If you've got some blue plat that's not being used, consider transferring some to red @ 3:1

Just stay on blue imo, you said you don't really like pvp, it's a pretty empty server and might be even more empty soon, why roll a char that might not have anyone to play with in a couple of months.

I tried red about a month ago and it was just not the same, empty zones, I mean crushbone was empty, crushbone!

They just want to rush to a higher level and then start a killing fest...

[DRAGONBAIT]

bonus exp is what makes crushbone and all the other zones empty, we lvl way to damn fast, u get into a grp in cb and u are out and heading to unrest in a couple of hours.

[Swish]

I tried red about a month ago and it was just not the same, empty zones, I mean crushbone was empty, crushbone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ-0iezmwMo

Blue Crushbone earlier this week, powerleveling took over the zone...can't even PK the dwarf in that vid. Ended up having to play petitionquest to get something done about it.

On red the powerleveler INVITES YOU because it means faster XP for the person getting leveled.

Red confirmed more sociable.

[rollin5k]

Aright I never understand that weak argument that you leveled so fast you can't afford your spells.

So just pretend youre level 4 and keep farming gold....

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

Aright I never understand that weak argument that you leveled so fast you can't afford your spells.

So just pretend youre level 4 and keep farming gold....

I know, that's what I'll have to do, farm Chips or Bat wings in Gfay. Otherwise, I could just sell pads/belts, but there's no market for them. It's fine though.

I recall a camp in Lfay too, that drops bronze weapons; I'll have to look that up.

I'm not trying to complain, just a small road block. A couple people were helping some of us level in CB last night and I'm still rockin' level 1 spells at 14. Not a big deal, but just a warning to people who start off with nothing here... it's going to happen; just buy the spells you absolutely need at first.


Unfortunately I don't have blue plat, or any amount worth trading. Only been playing here but for a week or so.


And I never said I did not like PvP... just not as a Cleric. I'm an old RZ player from Xex Xerxes, I've been around the block.


Maybe down the road Swish, but I'll figure out a way to make plat once I level up a bit. I'll hit you up on here once I acquire some plat. (Also, thanks for earlier, appreciate it)


Either way, I appreciate the tips, the help, and all that jazz.

[Troof]

how the fuck do people struggle with spell money? cracked staff sells for like 1pp, what is the fucking mystery here?

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

how the fuck do people struggle with spell money? cracked staff sells for like 1pp, what is the fucking mystery here?


Well, when you have someone constantly throwing thorns and regen on you in a zone to yourself as soon as you step foot onto the server with no prior characters, and you're magically lvl 14 in a matter of no time and spells cost 7pp each for that level, not including the previous spells the prior 2 Spell Levels... it's an issue. A good issue though, hence I said I wasn't trying to complain about being leveled. Ass.


An easy issue to fix; yes, which I did... and now can farm my own plat and have enough for spells for 29 coming up here, and I'll be making my way to FP to see if I can get some banded made.

Honestly, I still have stacks of Bat Wings and Bone Chips I haven't been able to sell yet. Though, a couple really nice people here from the forums that ran across me and noticed my name handed me some Peridots to sell, and with that; was able to purchase my spells, which now lead me to being able to farm my own plat. Quite grateful for.


I am simply just letting others see that it's not all that bad here to get started, and people (even from these forums) aren't as bad as one may presume, but then there's people like you of course.

Judging by your posts; you're about 15, or an adult who hasn't quite matured enough. You're constantly posting in threads acting like a tool, calling people names, throwing accusations around, and being an all around dick.

It's obvious you've been around for a while Troof, but only just made a forum account. One can only assume why judging by your posts. Previously banned? That's my guess. Keep it up!

[Troof]

tl;dr

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

tl;dr

If you cant read a few paragraphs, get the fuck out of this thread.


The irony.

[Troubled]

I started a cleric on red as a joke with a group of people that dropped off one by one throughout the week until it was just me left behind.

What got me hooked was starting again with nothing and no way to get twinked out while also having to watch my back and play slightly different, such as different places people hang out for safety while pulling camps and the way you gear up. Had no problem finding groups when I wanted as a cleric.

An issue was group longevity a lot of times, especially in the higher levels when everyone wants to claim you for a group but the group composition sucks, but the good groups make up for it with the massive exp bonus.

Was easier leveling a cleric than my red bard or monk and I feel more slippery at getting away, even if I can't do shit to anyone and am 0 threat and they know it.

At least in Kunark, you needed a guild to get an exp group past 50 or everyone would attack you. Dunno how that works anymore.

[phro]

I've got a 50 and a 27 on red and have gotten to experience only 2 fair fights in the entirety of my leveling so far. With Velious out I rarely see people in Uguk or Unrest as I leveled my 2nd char.

[Swish]

At least in Kunark, you needed a guild to get an exp group past 50 or everyone would attack you. Dunno how that works anymore.

It's all perspectives I think. My cleric was never guilded on the journey to 51, in that time I grouped with anyone and everyone. Joined a couple of Holo groups clearing ramparts/2nd/3rd floor in CoM. Then joined Fresh which soon had the plug pulled and almost joined Good Guys but couldn't get an officer to tag me (in hindsight it didn't matter lol).

Met some fun folks along the way including one of Sektor's characters, Gardur/Garadur/however its spelt, a few people in Slosh, and others whose names I've since forgotten.

Guild not required, but if I was leveling again I'd definitely join Thunderdome and try and get some groups going with them.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

I've got a 50 and a 27 on red and have gotten to experience only 2 fair fights in the entirety of my leveling so far. With Velious out I rarely see people in Uguk or Unrest as I leveled my 2nd char.


I've had a couple people try and PK me with no success (Cleric), and I'm sure if I were a higher level last night when some clown tried to kill our tank and train us AND his own guild members; I would have been his first target being a Cleric, either way; haven't died in PvP yet, and I am very thankful for that.

With that being said, I've been grateful for the groups and players I've come in contact with. I'm not in a guild and I don't mind partying with just about anyone from any guild. People are pretty cool here, just avoid OOC.


The thing with Unrest is; people camp their twinks there, and I know one or two people who regularly log in every couple hours to kill anyone there on said twink. I don't see much of a point to go to Velious for leveling unless you're in CC. Mobs there are tougher, more HP, etc. Pointless.

Thus far on my Cleric at level 40, I have gone to these zones:
5-19 Crushbone
19-37 MM (could stay past 40)
37-40 Sol B / KC.


I really don't think I'll have to be in a guild to level past 50. A Cleric is a Cleric, people love CH, and as long as you're not terribad people will remember you.

[Frudrura]

Sometimes I felt like Mad max going up against all the crazys, sometimes It felt like we might conquer, other times, it just felt like the insane asylum with clear cut rules, being totally thrown out, cause you are playing against someone on opiates

This is something I have noticed, on blue at least, there are a noticeable amount of players who are drug addicts. I am sure on red damn near everyone is fucked up on something at all times.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

This is something I have noticed, on blue at least, there are a noticeable amount of players who are drug addicts. I am sure on red damn near everyone is fucked up on something at all times.


I don't quite understand how you can assume that a high degree of people are "drug addicts" just based off your interactions with them via texts / actions made in a virtual world.

Also, to say that every single person that plays on Red is also "fucked up on something at all times" is exaggerated to say the least.


If you would care to elaborate as to why you think these things; I'm all ears.

[Gustoo]

It's kinda cool to think of red pvp players as some kinda psycho dungeon masochists but in reality they are just real life squares who like to have an outlet for their aggression and stuff. As a bristlebane doctor i am also a psychologist.

[Bokke]

Honestly if you want to PvE id still suggest red over blue.

Blue has 1200+ players, they use lists for everything. If that sounds like your cup of tea go for it. I wouldn't last an hour there.

Red will allow you to PvE and avoid most PvP if you really want to. If you play a cleric and get into a PvP battle you can probably avoid dying and even be asset to your group. It's honestly amazing anyone gets PvP kills when its so easy as a caster to not die.

Soloing as a cleric will be awful, but I think there's a lot of groups in most brackets at the moment if your patient.

I have a few blue friends who never played red on live, and play here, and none of them will ever go back to blue. Some of them still avoid most pvp, others have excelled at pvp.

I'll give you some plat if you're worried about the xp bonus effecting spells, when I started here it was a bit of an issue. I had to use flame lick up until level 20 something when Roberto, a gentlemen and brave knight of the resistance, gave me plat.

edit: fair warning though many people on this server are sociopaths or have extreme mental health issues

[SamwiseRed]

If you play EQ for the social aspect blue. Everything else red.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

It's kinda cool to think of red pvp players as some kinda psycho dungeon masochists but in reality they are just real life squares who like to have an outlet for their aggression and stuff. As a bristlebane doctor i am also a psychologist.

It's not cool really, and I don't have any real aggression myself in me. Sorry that some of us just like to add another element to our gaming and not wait in a 150+ line to get a chance at an item/Mob to spawn.

That immediately took me away from Blue. Personally, I've done most of the old raid/Kunark/Velious Era stuff, and I honestly don't want to HAVE to sit in a long line to get a chance at said items/camp, and then have it completely scrapped by some shady individuals for their own sake and reasons.

(That's what I took from it from viewing the posts on here, even though they said they would revert back to the other "long wait list").




edit: fair warning though many people on this server are sociopaths or have extreme mental health issues

Like I've said before... I believe it's just the same small group of people who continue to spout, whine, troll, and bash one another in OOC / forums.

Don't visit forums, and disregard OOC and you're fine.



Any form of radicalist; they speak louder than the others and unfortunately give a bad reputation for the others... so you can't judge the whole in this aspect.



Maybe I'm a fool though; maybe everyone higher up is what you people refer to as "toxic" but I personally have been grouping with alts from the "top guilds" and they seem like genuine people. (I've been grouping now with people even of level 60 being a 40+ Cleric).



Regardless, I'm happy to be here amongst said "toxic" people, and I would urge newcomers to give Red/PvP a try.

Don't take what you read here on the forums too seriously. Many of these people are still children in their age, grown adults who haven't been laid yet, those that were either too young or too terrible at the game upon release to comprehend doing simple button combinations/rotations to proceed any further and couldn't hack it on Live when it actually mattered who later ended up playing MMOs like World of Warcraft who NEEDED mods/addons to tell them to "get out of the fire" that's clearly melting them beneath their feet and needed aggro percentages to tell them to stop DPSing/Healing because they suck.



Play blue; fine... but try red at least. It's not so bad.

[Bazia]

red and blue are absolute dogshit ruined by the enormous amount of time spent in kunark

server code and staff are great though and I will be first in line to play either if/when they wipe or start a new one

[georgie]

Made a bigass tldr post about the server state, I backspaced on accident it erased. Oh well.

long story short, needs a wipe. we had so many fuck ups/exploits. that it only seems fair that we should reroll with a classic timeline since we're at velious. but I think it's appropriate after we do this velious era and empire sorts the bugs for us. only then it should reroll.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

red and blue are absolute dogshit ruined by the enormous amount of time spent in kunark

server code and staff are great though and I will be first in line to play either if/when they wipe or start a new one

Made a bigass tldr post about the server state, I backspaced on accident it erased. Oh well.

long story short, needs a wipe. we had so many fuck ups/exploits. that it only seems fair that we should reroll with a classic timeline since we're at velious. but I think it's appropriate after we do this velious era and empire sorts the bugs for us. only then it should reroll.




Aright... my thread/post has turned into a whole other beast that I had not anticipated. I shouldn't be surprised given the plague that is spewed around here though.


First off, my original post was aimed towards mine, and others' questionnaire regarding if this server is applicable enough for us to re-roll on, start fresh from, and whether or not one of these two thoughts were viable enough to do.

The answer is YES. I'm just 15 levels shy of being Max level in one week, and even though end-game and the real ever"QUEST" doesn't begin until the late game; we, us new-comers/re-rollers are certainly welcomed here, and these supposedly defined "Red" players "want" us here and "welcome" us (defined by the "consider red" banter we see on the forums).


I understand that people seem to think items were duped, platinum was duped, etc etc; but this happens on virtually every game to date. This happened in the Era of Kunark/Velious/Classic when it was Live. This also happens in every single other game you have touched whether or not you were aware of such notions. It happens, people abuse it; such people should be punished. Are they here? I'm sure not all, but that was NOT my original question nor concern. So please, do me a favor and the others who you may want to come to Red and populate the server even more and... shut your fucking mouths.



These are pixels ladies and gentlemen. Nothing more; nothing less.



I understand the PvP element is not for all, but if you'd like to be entrenched in a more closely knit group of people, where you don't have to sit in line for days or weeks on end for a mob to spawn, where leveling up a character is yet another job/task you must endure like you did as I did when these Eras were out for realsies; give Red a try.



People here aren't as bad as you think. Do not lunge into the RnF threads, disregard OOC but for the necessary LFGs, ports, trades, and you will be fine.

I'm generally a really decent person to talk to, helpful in any way; but if you "Red" players REALLY want people to come here... knock it the fuck off and grow up. If that is not what you want... you're doing a fine job at keeping players away from you all.



(Pro-tip: View posts of other members on the Red section of the forum to see their salty/hatred towards any subject, EQ related or not; they are a plague. Do not take them seriously.)

[filthyphil]

Underlying problem with Everquest PVP is it is entirely gear based. You will never be able to compete with the "lifers" who put in 8 hours+ a day. If you want to have fun and not join the guild(there is only ever 1 real choice here on red), roll a wizard and stick around level 50.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

Underlying problem with Everquest PVP is it is entirely gear based. You will never be able to compete with the "lifers" who put in 8 hours+ a day. If you want to have fun and not join the guild(there is only ever 1 real choice here on red), roll a wizard and stick around level 50.


True or not; again, has not a single thing to do with what I originally asked, and more or less has to do with the GAME itself (or lack of leadership on individuals to form a guild or alliance); not the server itself.

Next.

[filthyphil]

You got it all figured out huh, rolled a healer, EVERYBODY is so friendly here. Lmao don't know shit about red.

[filthyphil]

And for the record your topic title was "Is Red the way to go?" I answered your question without reading that text wall of fragmented sentences.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

You got it all figured out huh, rolled a healer, EVERYBODY is so friendly here. Lmao don't know shit about red.

By the looks of your posts; you act like an infant.
I was playing this game when you were still shitting in your diapers.

As I've stated; I'm not a stranger to PvP servers. I completely understand the politics involved, and selfishness of others.

I started off on Rallos, then juggled PvE(TM/Drinal, Cats in Hats), PvE(Quellious, Vis Maior; later moved to WoW and became one of the top guilds US) and PvP(RZ)(Xex-Xerxes), and messed around on Sullon later. I've become reacquainted with a few individuals from my time already even here.

I already had it all figured out, bud.


And for the record your topic title was "Is Red the way to go?" I answered your question without reading that text wall of fragmented sentences.


It was an underlying question, obviously. If you took the time to read it; you'd know.

It's apparent you did not. Piss off.

Next.


(P.S. I really hate being an jerk here in regards to people posting, but these people hold no validity in any of their posts or arguments. I understand I am new here also and also am subject to said scrutiny, but I also want server health to flourish despite what others here post. Sorry, and thanks.)

[Swish]

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[Portasaurus]

i AFKd for 20 hours yesterday on the blue server and had a great time and nobody killed me once!





























































wts pants

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

TLDR by level 45 player who still knows nothing of red99


I am almost certain you are correct sir. Regardless, this is still a video game. Some of you around here take it way too seriously, and have way too much time on your hands.

[filthyphil]

I login once a week to yellowtext kids in Karnor's Castle and CoM. You leveled 1-45 in a week. You must have been, and still are super immersed to remember playing everquest with anyone from 99. I can't remember who I was fucking in 99.

To each their own. Maybe you are one of the 1% who can actually stomach playing with these clowns.

[Zulzephur - Tarew Marr]

I login once a week to yellowtext kids in Karnor's Castle and CoM. You leveled 1-45 in a week. You must have been, and still are super immersed to remember playing everquest with anyone from 99. I can't remember who I was fucking in 99.

To each their own. Maybe you are one of the 1% who can actually stomach playing with these clowns.

I have a pretty good memory I suppose.


My best advice in order to dealing with people in-game or the forums is 1) don't visit the forums and 2) turn OOC off. It's somewhat decent at that point, but as I've leveled, I'm starting to notice what people have been trying to tell me... but I'm still grouping with mostly fair and decent people.

No emulated server is perfect, but I've grouped now with people from Empire, TMO, Slosh, TD, Friends, Casual Scum, something de Norrathians or whatever, and outside of OOC, the "politics" here, and forum bashing; there are some really decent people in all of these guilds I've come across. Hell, someone let me role on a 12k Robe last night from Slosh who I felt I didn't deserve one bit, but he said he runs things fair in his groups. Good dude.

There are good people out there. If there weren't, I wouldn't be here. Trust me on that.