View Full Version : Keys should be soulbound
xblade724
08-08-2015, 02:22 AM
It's one of those things that should've been modernized like using conflag clickies in pvp; a mechanic that makes ears bleed for nothing:
Keys should be soulbound.
Yes. Not classic. Neither is tell queues, clickies, etc etc etc etc.
We're all 15 years++ older now and shouldn't have to deal with BS such as dying and not being able to get your corpse because everyone that had a key wiped, or whatever the reason may be.
Some of us also live in awkward time zones (I live in Taiwan, others Euro, etc), so it's not like it's easy to get a rez even if in a big guild.
Then having to keep 3 inventory slots full for rest of your eq life for those damn velious port fangs.. come on.
It's just one of those things that makes people wanna quit the game -- just unnecessarily frustrating.
Supported also by Yanro, Spoony, Frogy, Leriela, and countless others.
TacoSmasher
08-08-2015, 02:30 AM
cringe
shut up
Doctor Jeff
08-08-2015, 10:07 AM
?
Keys are soul bound.
georgie
08-08-2015, 10:13 AM
can you hit 60 and then give us advice
Vanquisher
08-08-2015, 10:38 AM
?
Keys are soul bound.
SHOWITME
08-08-2015, 10:40 AM
clickies aint classic?
HarrisonDeliSlicer
08-08-2015, 10:44 AM
I remember xblade, wasn't he a huge MQ user?
minakto
08-08-2015, 11:11 AM
It's one of those things that should've been modernized like using conflag clickies in pvp; a mechanic that makes ears bleed for nothing:
Keys should be soulbound.
Yes. Not classic. Neither is tell queues, clickies, etc etc etc etc.
We're all 15 years++ older now and shouldn't have to deal with BS such as dying and not being able to get your corpse because everyone that had a key wiped, or whatever the reason may be.
Some of us also live in awkward time zones (I live in Taiwan, others Euro, etc), so it's not like it's easy to get a rez even if in a big guild.
Then having to keep 3 inventory slots full for rest of your eq life for those damn velious port fangs.. come on.
It's just one of those things that makes people wanna quit the game -- just unnecessarily frustrating.
Supported also by Yanro, Spoony, Frogy, Leriela, and countless others.
1. Keys are soulbound. Are you stupid?
2. The only Velious key/fang you need to keep is Cobalt Scar Shrine Key and the Cobalt Scar tooth. The tooth opens GD and WL as well as CS. Are you stupid?
3. Are you stupid?
xblade724
08-08-2015, 11:26 AM
1. Keys are soulbound. Are you stupid?
2. The only Velious key/fang you need to keep is Cobalt Scar Shrine Key and the Cobalt Scar tooth. The tooth opens GD and WL as well as CS. Are you stupid?
3. Are you stupid?
Never knew that about cobalt scar tooth.
Tower of frozen shadow keys are not soulbound. Then this is a bug..
minakto
08-08-2015, 12:29 PM
Never knew that about cobalt scar tooth.
Tower of frozen shadow keys are not soulbound. Then this is a bug..
Internal dungeon keys like the keys in unrest or tower of frozen shadow were never soulbound. Only keys that admit entrance to a dungeon were.
EXCLUDING Sleeper's Tomb. If you die in ST, you cannot reenter zone, somebody has to rez you.
Gnomegrown2
08-08-2015, 01:03 PM
Never knew that about cobalt scar tooth.
Tower of frozen shadow keys are not soulbound. Then this is a bug..
who cares about tower of frozen shadow, and if you die up there you deserve to have your corpse rot anyway
grannock
08-08-2015, 01:56 PM
It's one of those things that should've been modernized like using conflag clickies in pvp; a mechanic that makes ears bleed for nothing:
Keys should be soulbound.
Yes. Not classic. Neither is tell queues, clickies, etc etc etc etc.
We're all 15 years++ older now and shouldn't have to deal with BS such as dying and not being able to get your corpse because everyone that had a key wiped, or whatever the reason may be.
Some of us also live in awkward time zones (I live in Taiwan, others Euro, etc), so it's not like it's easy to get a rez even if in a big guild.
Then having to keep 3 inventory slots full for rest of your eq life for those damn velious port fangs.. come on.
It's just one of those things that makes people wanna quit the game -- just unnecessarily frustrating.
Supported also by Yanro, Spoony, Frogy, Leriela, and countless others.
Are these guys farming ST?
Haynar
08-08-2015, 01:59 PM
I can see how wiping in ST without help to get bodies could be an issue. Probably need a plan for that. Ouch.
On a side note. If dying in ST without help is the issue. If no one gets in to help and corpse decays, I bet staff would help restore ur corpse. It would basically give you a one week penalty.
HarrisonDeliSlicer
08-08-2015, 02:14 PM
Haynar and Null still workin on that PVP resist code
Announced: November 2011
Expected: January 2019
minakto
08-08-2015, 02:14 PM
I can see how wiping in ST without help to get bodies could be an issue. Probably need a plan for that. Ouch.
On a side note. If dying in ST without help is the issue. If no one gets in to help and corpse decays, I bet staff would help restore ur corpse. It would basically give you a one week penalty.
Sleeper's should be a zero CSR zone with no hope of summoning corpses until the corpse rots.
Then yaw, I could see the GM's summoning your corpse for you.
Nirgon
08-08-2015, 02:19 PM
PvP resist code pdamn goog (bane landing a bit high still)
Dex/Agi stupidity needs to go for hit rate
Dont restore sleeper corpses or any at all for that matter
Bring back clickies now that resists work
Raiders gonna raid. Pvpers can at least focus on farming consumables to win fights.
Doctor Jeff
08-08-2015, 02:22 PM
Sleeper's should be a zero CSR zone with no hope of summoning corpses until the corpse rots.
Then yaw, I could see the GM's summoning your corpse for you.
Good job paraphrasing what Haynar said. A real contribution to the thread.
Haynar
08-08-2015, 02:31 PM
Good job paraphrasing what Haynar said. A real contribution to the thread.
No less than yours.
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Doctor Jeff
08-08-2015, 02:32 PM
No less than yours.
H
You might think I was being sarcastic, but I was not.
pharmakos
08-08-2015, 02:36 PM
I can see how wiping in ST without help to get bodies could be an issue. Probably need a plan for that. Ouch.
On a side note. If dying in ST without help is the issue. If no one gets in to help and corpse decays, I bet staff would help restore ur corpse. It would basically give you a one week penalty.
i disagree. if corpses rot in ST i think they should be gone for good.
i disagree. if corpses rot in ST i think they should be gone for good.
Should definitely rot if in ST, VP, ToV, Planes, then again I don't think CSR should summon any corpses at all unless it was a demonstrable bug.
pharmakos
08-08-2015, 02:44 PM
not recovering rotted corpses would even help combat mudflation
Doctor Jeff
08-08-2015, 02:46 PM
Should definitely rot if in ST, VP, ToV, Planes, then again I don't think CSR should summon any corpses at all unless it was a demonstrable bug.
IDK a lot of people lose their corpses for legitimate reasons and it would be discouraging to have to start a new account because your motherboard fried or something.
IDK a lot of people lose their corpses for legitimate reasons and it would be discouraging to have to start a new account because your motherboard fried or something.
People over came and adapted to losing corpses all the time on live.
Do people not keep a set of corpse run gear in their bank now days?
Doctor Jeff
08-08-2015, 10:40 PM
People over came and adapted to losing corpses all the time on live.
Do people not keep a set of corpse run gear in their bank now days?
I got my corpse restored by csr on live, I don't know what you mean by they adapted to losing corpses. You couldn't.
pharmakos
08-08-2015, 11:14 PM
^ what zone did it rot in, though?
Cringing hard
I see you are adopting the lingo of this primitive tribe to move among them undetected while subtly pushing your 'take bags out of the bank to open them' agenda
Efwan
08-09-2015, 12:44 AM
^ what zone did it rot in, though?
I had mine restored from plane of fear before kunark, what's your point?
xblade724
08-09-2015, 12:58 AM
I can see how wiping in ST without help to get bodies could be an issue. Probably need a plan for that. Ouch.
On a side note. If dying in ST without help is the issue. If no one gets in to help and corpse decays, I bet staff would help restore ur corpse. It would basically give you a one week penalty.
Same with tower of frozen shadow -- my buddy got trolled the other day , someone brought him to 5th floor and died instantly. He spent 4 hours trying to get key just to the 3rd floor alone. Our group gave up, so he was stranded on 3rd floor and even if he got to 4th he didn't have a group to continue.
TofS keys should definitely be soulbound. It isn't a raid zone like sleepers tomb and shouldn't be so heavily punished for a lower lvl dungeon. It's easier to get your corpse back in plane of hate than tofs 3rd+ floor.
Grimjaw
08-09-2015, 01:03 AM
while your at it, make befallen & najena keys soulbound...
... NOT
TacoSmasher
08-09-2015, 01:15 AM
Same with tower of frozen shadow -- my buddy got trolled the other day , someone brought him to 5th floor and died instantly. He spent 4 hours trying to get key just to the 3rd floor alone. Our group gave up, so he was stranded on 3rd floor and even if he got to 4th he didn't have a group to continue.
TofS keys should definitely be soulbound. It isn't a raid zone like sleepers tomb and shouldn't be so heavily punished for a lower lvl dungeon. It's easier to get your corpse back in plane of hate than tofs 3rd+ floor.
cost of a coffin and tipping a necro is unreasonably expensive am i right?
if during those 4 hours of cr your friend couldn't think of potiential alternatives to retrieve the corpse he doesnt deserve a quick recovery. also because this is everquest, he should be more aware of the risks of some adventures before running in face first and getting wrecked.
this is eq, do your due diligence or get gaped.
xblade724
08-09-2015, 01:39 AM
I just remembered that the poll is invalid anyway because only trolls troll this forum instead of playing the game ;p
xblade724
08-09-2015, 01:40 AM
cost of a coffin and tipping a necro is unreasonably expensive am i right?
if during those 4 hours of cr your friend couldn't think of potiential alternatives to retrieve the corpse he doesnt deserve a quick recovery. also because this is everquest, he should be more aware of the risks of some adventures before running in face first and getting wrecked.
this is eq, do your due diligence or get gaped.
Negative -- it's called being an awkward timezone. I can /who all and actually see a complete list in Taiwan timezone. The other guy was probably Euro or something - it was 4am eastern time when it was my 4pm.
Don't forget, we're NOT a populated server. This x10 when off-primetime. Not many necros on the server to begin with, let alone people that can port that early to grab a coffin. Then even further, he's not evil. Neriak still the only place to buy them?
Just too many factors were in play that had to all exist at one time to retrieve his corpse, at 4am EST.
>>> There is no reason a 30s low 40s char should ever have to go to a lowbie dungeon and have to wait until his corpse decays to retrieve it via /petition <<<
TacoSmasher
08-09-2015, 01:49 AM
>>> There is no reason a 30s low 40s char should ever have to go to a lowbie dungeon and have to wait until his corpse decays to retrieve it via /petition <<<
Unless you die in an area that requires keys that are not soulbound with no means to recover your corpse.
TacoSmasher
08-09-2015, 01:52 AM
Not even trying to sound like an asshole, but this is everquest. shit like getting your corpse stuck in keyed areas happens.
if i was online at the time or saw a forum post requesting help with this CR i'd be there
pharmakos
08-09-2015, 02:11 AM
I had mine restored from plane of fear before kunark, what's your point?
prove it
Genedin
08-09-2015, 02:20 AM
PvP resist code pdamn goog (bane landing a bit high still)
Dex/Agi stupidity needs to go for hit rate
Dont restore sleeper corpses or any at all for that matter
Bring back clickies now that resists work
Raiders gonna raid. Pvpers can at least focus on farming consumables to win fights.
Solid.
xblade724
08-09-2015, 05:01 AM
Not even trying to sound like an asshole, but this is everquest. shit like getting your corpse stuck in keyed areas happens.
if i was online at the time or saw a forum post requesting help with this CR i'd be there
http://media.makeameme.org/created/wtf-67xsk5.jpg
You are only 1/2 correct. This is EQ with 1/3000th the population. Get someone in awkward time zone, then add a few 0's to that.
So in low pop eq, on the lowest pop server, with awkward time zone, with low chance of finding necro (we're on Red, after all), low chance that he even has the damn spell, then the logistics behind getting to neriak and back, what to do if you are not evil to get a coffin if you are naked... then on top of that, the cost of 2 ports of inconceivably long runs just to get them, and the ports to get you AND a necro back, plus the combined cost of all of them: You'll be able to camp quillmane for peg cloak faster than getting your corpse back from a 15+ or 35+ dungeon.
It's just inconceivable. This is NOT live, and things ARE different here~
Go ahead, keep ruining zones for no reason. Make those level 15's quit the server when he can't get his corpse in befallen, where NO ONE goes but only wants to go there for nostalgia.
Or take one of the most entertaining zones in the game like TofS and turn deaths as punishing as a corpse in plane of sky on a different island you don't have access to, and have to REGAIN access while naked.
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