Vindi can't go on like this

[Mistle]

Every eight hours is total destruction of Kael as everyone crashes out from the several hundred people socking.

Something has to be done here, this isn't going to work and no one is going to back down just to let other people have a free ride with him.

[Oleris]

Up to the guild leaders to discuss something. There's a discussion post in the raid forums about it.

[Chrysus]

Everyone expected the first week of Velious to be nuts, and we would have been disappointed if it wasn't.

I'd recommend just trying to enjoy the absurdity of it all while it's here, something will likely end up being worked out on the raid forum if the desyncs continue.

[jarshale]

This is the classic experience we all wanted. If you aren't man enough to quit your job and ignore your family to poopsock pixels you don't deserve drops.

[wormed]

This is the classic experience we all wanted. If you aren't man enough to quit your job and ignore your family to poopsock pixels you don't deserve drops.

I played Live when Velious was released and I definitely do not recall 350 people in the zone waiting for Vindicator. With that said:

Classic my ass.

[bktroost]

working on it.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

why can't it continue?

Is this one of those large hadron collider things, like eventually a black hole could be created or something?

Just wondering what the limiting factor of "this cannot continue" is here. Just askin.

[HarrisonDeliSlicer]

This is the classic experience we all wanted. If you aren't man enough to quit your job and ignore your family to poopsock pixels you don't deserve drops.

mmm can u taste it?

[wormed]

why can't it continue?

Is this one of those large hadron collider things, like eventually a black hole could be created or something?

Just wondering what the limiting factor of "this cannot continue" is here. Just askin.

I guess when the whole server is based on who gets FTE on a mob, and that guild is incapable of even attempting the kill due to server issues, it becomes a problem I'd say.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/1220804.jpg

[pasi]

300+ basement dwellers all trying to FTE an 8 hour spawn is absolutely what this great game is all about. I can only hope this continues.

[wormed]

300+ basement dwellers all trying to FTE an 8 hour spawn is absolutely what this great game is all about. I can only hope this continues.

This Vindi was at like 8pm. Pretty sure the basement dwellers were sleeping until 2am.

[Daldaen]

Rotate them.


No one is allowed to ally unless they enter the alliance as a single entity and occupy 1 slot, to prevent guilds from joining and occupying more than 1 slot.
You have 1 hour to kill your mob, its a known time spawn and a relatively easy kill with preparation. No guild should need more than an hour, 30min should be sufficient but lets be casual


The problem I am seeing with a rotation is of the 7-8 entities, probably only 3-4 of them can muster the force to kill Derakor 24hours a day. Meaning when say... Divinity comes up on their rotation and their respawn is at 3AM on a Monday, they may not be able to muster the force and kill.

There are a few ways to resolve this:


Those guilds could lose their kill and it goes FFA after an hour. (Favors zerg/neckbeards)
Those guilds could opt to swap positions with another willing guild, say a euro-american swap (could be a nightmare to track)
Those guilds could skip their turn if it spawns during blackout hours (Favors small guilds)
The rotation could be 2 Rotated spawns and 1 FFA spawn a day. The spawn falling between say... 12AM-8AM EST is FFA, the other 2 are Rotated. (Favors Americans)


Maybe other ideas? Anywho I hope it gets pushed to a rotation so guilds get a Vindi every 3 days or so.

[dustysr06]

#1

that other stuff seems like a complete PITA to keep track of (would be a handful of people having to 'police' the rotation)

get a bad spawn time? that sucks, but still better than 350+ breaking kael for an hour IMO

[pasi]

It's 3 days into Velious. Seems a little early for welfare rotations.

This is the classic experience we all wanted. If you aren't man enough to quit your job and ignore your family to poopsock pixels you don't deserve drops.

[blondeattk]

i disagree with the OP, seems healthy to me.

ive already had some pennies drop off the ubber table, while the big boys were doing faction work.

Diplomacy and politeness and being in the right place at the right time....does work!

eg ubbers are leaving giants about with scalemail armour on them etc and dead dorfs with similar stuffs.

its good to scavenge!

[Tasslehofp99]

Try red today, they can guarantee you will never see 400 players.

[fiveeauxfour]

Daldaen, i like the solution. I was thinking something very similar. I thought that guilds could rotate days at first wherein each guild gets to choose 1 spawn on their day. The other 2 spawns are contested. The whole 30 min timer etc etc applies.

[Tasslehofp99]

I propose that all guilds on blue who want to kill vindi roll lvl 1 human warriors and fight to the death in arena. The last man standing will determine who gets first crack at vindi.

Think about it, we might be able to get red pop over 380 people for once.

[jpetrick]

I propose that all guilds on blue who want to kill vindi roll lvl 1 human warriors and fight to the death in arena. The last man standing will determine who gets first crack at vindi.

Think about it, we might be able to get red pop over 380 people for once.

Best solution suggested thus far.

[iruinedyourday]

Why don't you guys just all wait in WL and only send in your pullers until you get FTE? Are you guys like trying to pvp by crashing the zone? :confused:

[Fanguru]

It's a pita bringing Vindi to WL zone.

The interest for Vindi will die down, just got to wait it out.

[JurisDictum]

The interest for Vindi will die down, just got to wait it out.

You must be new here

[Fanguru]

Maybe it will not, but it is too early to build agreements that will potentially last for years.
See how it goes in a couple months.

[Monty405]

Derakor and I have been dating and he recently started ignoring my emails and phone calls, but he's not saying anything about it when we are together. I can`t help but think he is also seeing another guild.

What does this mean? I need some dating advice fast!

[Swish]

Rotate them.


No one is allowed to ally unless they enter the alliance as a single entity and occupy 1 slot, to prevent guilds from joining and occupying more than 1 slot.
You have 1 hour to kill your mob, its a known time spawn and a relatively easy kill with preparation. No guild should need more than an hour, 30min should be sufficient but lets be casual


The problem I am seeing with a rotation is of the 7-8 entities, probably only 3-4 of them can muster the force to kill Derakor 24hours a day. Meaning when say... Divinity comes up on their rotation and their respawn is at 3AM on a Monday, they may not be able to muster the force and kill.

There are a few ways to resolve this:


Those guilds could lose their kill and it goes FFA after an hour. (Favors zerg/neckbeards)
Those guilds could opt to swap positions with another willing guild, say a euro-american swap (could be a nightmare to track)
Those guilds could skip their turn if it spawns during blackout hours (Favors small guilds)
The rotation could be 2 Rotated spawns and 1 FFA spawn a day. The spawn falling between say... 12AM-8AM EST is FFA, the other 2 are Rotated. (Favors Americans)


Maybe other ideas? Anywho I hope it gets pushed to a rotation so guilds get a Vindi every 3 days or so.

That's what we need, more rules.

[am0n]

I was waiting for Swish, but wrong response. Where's the "Have you tried red?" or "It wouldn't be like this on red!" response?

0/10, much disappoint!

[Swish]

That's implied, I'm glad the subliminal effect is still imprinted in people's minds <3

Redception etc

[am0n]

Okay, 1/10. Still, much disappoint. I expect more from you.

[falkun]

We have a static 8hr mob that drops some BIS/near BIS items, but requires 4+clerics (so a raid force). Figure something out involving:

Rotation period (prime time for those 400+kael populations)
FFA period (early US AM for those with long socks)
engage time limit (<=1hr, no variance)
public death timer post

[Swish]

Okay, 1/10. Still, much disappoint. I expect more from you.


I'm not here to meet other people's expectations sadly :(

[Zeonick]

I have to say, doing anything in Kael has been a huge PITA so far. I was really hoping to do some farming in there at some point but it looks like that may be impossible for a long, long time.

As a side note, Swish that gif in your sig just made me lol so hard. Good one.

[Chrysus]

It's 3 days into Velious. Seems a little early for welfare rotations.

Pasi on point as usual.

Let's at least give it a few weeks. This racing from pillar to post on raid targets and having it up in the air who gets what has been a breath of fresh air.

[Gimp]

inb4 16 hour variance on Vindi because you nerds can't play nice

[Haynar]

Working on zone issues at high populations like is going on.

H

[indiscriminate_hater]

red: "you've ruined your lands, you won't ruins ours!"

[Zeonick]

Working on zone issues at high populations like is going on.

H

Nice! Good luck and godspeed.

[Roguejm11]

Think about it, we might be able to get red pop over 380 people for once.

Not likely

[Bristlebaner]

I think no rules, complete FFA on every spawn in game would be ideal. Free market is the way to go.

[Sampten]

There will be roughly 20 Vindis a week +1/-1 one.

That's over 1,000 Vindi kills in a year. At some point guilds are no longer going to need the mob.

It might be a mess right now, but it will settle down as guilds get more kills, their desire to continue to kill him will go down based on the lack of need, thus opening the door for others.

[Thulack]

There will be roughly 20 Vindis a week +1/-1 one.

That's over 1,000 Vindi kills in a year. At some point guilds are no longer going to need the mob.

It might be a mess right now, but it will settle down as guilds get more kills, their desire to continue to kill him will go down based on the lack of need, thus opening the door for others.

100 poeple in a guild 2-3 toons per person. Some rare drops..and thats just 1 guild. Nah Vindi going to be camped forever.

[Monty405]

Hello my name is Derakor the Vindicator.

Please stop killing me. K thx bye 8)

[DevGrousis]

why can't it continue?

Is this one of those large hadron collider things, like eventually a black hole could be created or something?

Just wondering what the limiting factor of "this cannot continue" is here. Just askin.

Top guilds on the server poop socking so much they create an epic desync blackhole that swallows up and wipes all characters making us have to start from scratch :P. Can you imagine the irony hahaha

[pasi]

The lust for pixels is strong.

I eagerly await the Scout Charisa thread when more people get their CoV faction. The gal is gonna get born into this world with 300 dudes all trying to give her a tool kit.

[Man0warr]

The lust for pixels is strong.

I eagerly await the Scout Charisa thread when more people get their CoV faction. The gal is gonna get born into this world with 300 dudes all trying to give her a tool kit.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205118

[Doors]

Feel sorry for people that actually want vindi loot on blue.

[Uuruk]

#blueproblems

[Herp]

Starting a rotation for Vindi will just open pandora's box. More rules, lawyering, suspensions, rotations, etc... no thanks.

If you don't like doing Vindi with 300+ people, then don't do it. Other dragons were up with better loot.

[pasi]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205118

You da real MVP.

[webrunner5]

This is the classic experience we all wanted. If you aren't man enough to quit your job and ignore your family to poopsock pixels you don't deserve drops.

Christ, I just about spit beer on my computer screen. Stop it!! :eek::eek: