Zergs,LNS violations,Spies and drug addicts

[Tiggles]

Is still better than 350+ person vindi poop socks on blue every eight hours.

Pras Red server!


http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1996557#post1996557

[Heebo]

Pras

[Xaanka]

8=D~

[GradnerLives]

http://i.imgur.com/Ak7PYnl.jpg

[Ella`Ella]

Pras

[Qtip]

LOL What? They rotate mobs on blue? So if a mob spawns you cant touch it til its your turn? Now I understand why so many people cry when getting killed in pvp.

[AzzarTheGod]

21 Vindis a week yowl 9 vindis per guild a month

[Malevz]

Is still better than 350+ person vindi poop socks on blue every eight hours.

Pras Red server!


So to be clear this means every 8 hours everyone sits at vindi and does the first to engage thing?

[ducktv]

there's also variance I believe. so you can only imagine the amount of shit filled socks.. disgusting really.

[GradnerLives]

there's also variance I believe. so you can only imagine the amount of shit filled socks.. disgusting really.

The true strength of a neckbeard warrior is judged not by his actions, but by the length width and depth of his skidstains.

Bless u blue warriors.

Amen.

[Tiggles]

So to be clear this means every 8 hours everyone sits at vindi and does the first to engage thing?

Yupppp

[ducktv]

The true strength of a neckbeard warrior is judged not by his actions, but by the length width and depth of his skidstains.

Bless u blue warriors.

Amen.

what are the base stats of a neckbeard? CHA must be so fuckin low.

[Tiggles]

what are the base stats of a neckbeard? CHA must be so fuckin low.

Negative charisma helps with instill doubt

[ducktv]

Negative charisma helps with instill doubt

tbh I just wrote about a paragraph explaining why a neckbeard would have which stats, made me realize I was way too immersed so I deleted it and apologized to myself.

[Drakaris]

Is still better than 350+ person vindi poop socks on blue every eight hours.

Pras Red server!


http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1996557#post1996557

This is true to a degree... it just means the #2 guild on Red needs to operate on a different timezone... :)

[Tiggles]

This is true to a degree... it just means the #2 guild on Red needs to operate on a different timezone... :)

That's why I recruit every euro I see.

[Farzo]

"No Im asking everyone, its like 21 vindi's a week so hopefully we can work something out."

[Tiggles]

"No Im asking everyone, its like 21 vindi's a week so hopefully we can work something out."

Zero chance of that happening. People still race and train and petition each other for noble dorjn six years into ththe server.

[Smedy]

i can pras that

[Uuruk]

I'd say we could work something out with tmo but they can't get vindicator past 99%

[Kergan]

They should just form one guild and base who gets vindi loot on DKP like r99 :)

[Farzo]

That's why I recruit every euro I see.

bend your knee to me and I'll join ur guild.


p.s. euro here

[Farzo]

bend your knee to me and I'll join ur guild.


p.s. euro here


I am a top 3 server Paladin, and have a port bot I use to help mobilize raid forces.

warm body you can give 1 item to every 3 months and that will satisfy me

[Pint]

Was waiting to see how long it would take you guys to notice that individual zones are blue have higher populations then your entire server #tryredtoday lol

[Susvain2]

playing red and loggin back to blue to talk to my friends, i feel like I discovered getting laid for the first time and they havent

[Farzo]

Was waiting to see how long it would take you guys to notice that individual zones are blue have higher populations then your entire server #tryredtoday lol

tried blue a number of times and without boxing its kinda pointless

didnt play eq pvp up untill 18 months ago and can't look back

like what do you do once you have a vulak axe?

[Pint]

like what do you do once you have a vulak axe?

Probably the same thing the players in empire are doing with them

[Farzo]

Probably the same thing the players in empire are doing with them

it's not advisable to afk in EC tunnel on Red99 so yaw NAW not doing the same thing.

[Uton]

LOL What? They rotate mobs on blue? So if a mob spawns you cant touch it til its your turn? Now I understand why so many people cry when getting killed in pvp.

which is why we kek at bluebies for claiming that blue server is more "competative" than red

[Gimp]

What competition is on red? Y'all act like there's an epic battle for every raid mob or something.

[Itap]

theres no variance on velious mobs

[Uton]

What competition is on red? Y'all act like there's an epic battle for every raid mob or something.

on red you dont engage without zone control. on blue you pounce the mobs - rape it - then petition to see who hit it first. if a pvp switch was flipped while you all were waiting for a pop, blue would get interesting real quick.

[LostCause]

zone control from what?

[Eslade]

zone control from what?

tmo?
http://i.imgur.com/NaKErGd.gif

[Gimp]

on red you dont engage without zone control. on blue you pounce the mobs - rape it - then petition to see who hit it first. if a pvp switch was flipped while you all were waiting for a pop, blue would get interesting real quick.

Again, who are you "competing" against? At least there's competition for FTE on blue, red is just a desolate server with one guild herp derping around.

[Uton]

there have been some massive fights over raid mobs and zone control. its not always but eventually a second guild will pop up again and contest. Velious will deff have a negative impact on pvp with this low population

[Coffee]

competition for FTE



Haha

[Alarti0001]

Again, who are you "competing" against? At least there's competition for FTE on blue, red is just a desolate server with one guild herp derping around.

there have been some massive fights over raid mobs and zone control.

Yep used to be epic battles until one guild and I don't just blame empire but the non-competitive players who decided to join the easy guild instead of earning a place.

If red was more competitive than blue than the player based wouldn't even consider joining a guild that fields 100 for raids on a 400 peak server (is it even 400 peak anymore).

[Gimp]

So basically red and blue have the same PvP competition: none.

All I needed to hear.

[Eslade]

Yep used to be epic battles until one guild and I don't just blame empire but the non-competitive players who decided to join the easy guild instead of earning a place.

If red was more competitive than blue than the player based wouldn't even consider joining a guild that fields 100 for raids on a 400 peak server (is it even 400 peak anymore).

sounds like you came here expecting easy pixels and found your seat at the kid's table instead.


mad

[Ella`Ella]

If red was more competitive than blue than the player based wouldn't even consider joining a guild that fields 100 for raids on a 400 peak server (is it even 400 peak anymore).

I think the real question on everyone's mind is, when are you going back to blue and will you be joining Forsaken or Rampage?7

[HippoNipple]

Yep used to be epic battles until one guild and I don't just blame empire but the non-competitive players who decided to join the easy guild instead of earning a place.

If red was more competitive than blue than the player based wouldn't even consider joining a guild that fields 100 for raids on a 400 peak server (is it even 400 peak anymore).

It doesn't sound like you really get the difference between the PvP and PvE server yet. It is a much different dynamic. Competition comes in waves and is not a perpetual thing on this server. Being defeated on a PvP server crushes a guilds moral. Once a guild starts to lose players from several defeats it is basically over until the guild rebuilds months later. Having a strong core simply gives your guild a chance to survive and try again a few months later after working hard starting from scratch again. When there is a competitive force going after the number 1 spot it normally lasts a couple weeks until someone wins out and then they take over.

[Uton]

It doesn't sound like you really get the difference between the PvP and PvE server yet. It is a much different dynamic. Competition comes in waves and is not a perpetual thing on this server. Being defeated on a PvP server crushes a guilds moral. Once a guild starts to lose players from several defeats it is basically over until the guild rebuilds months later. Having a strong core simply gives your guild a chance to survive and try again a few months later after working hard starting from scratch again. When there is a competitive force going after the number 1 spot it normally lasts a couple weeks until someone wins out and then they take over.

Everything he said

[Gimp]

I think the real question on everyone's mind is, when are you going back to blue and will you be joining Forsaken or Rampage?7

He'll just join Empire, like everyone else on red. Burned too many bridges on blue.

[Eslade]

http://i.imgur.com/RfhkFQb.png

[Uton]

He'll just join Empire, like everyone else on red. Burned too many bridges on blue.

Have a strange feeling that you let that ship set sail about 30 posts ago.

the irony

[daasgoot]

http://i.imgur.com/RfhkFQb.png

lol naw tmo can't contest kunark against friends/GW/slosh

sry

[Coffee]

Alarti stop blaming the repeat loser "competition" guilds for TMO's non existent presence.

[hatelore]

It doesn't sound like you really get the difference between the PvP and PvE server yet. It is a much different dynamic. Competition comes in waves and is not a perpetual thing on this server. Being defeated on a PvP server crushes a guilds moral. Once a guild starts to lose players from several defeats it is basically over until the guild rebuilds months later. Having a strong core simply gives your guild a chance to survive and try again a few months later after working hard starting from scratch again. When there is a competitive force going after the number 1 spot it normally lasts a couple weeks until someone wins out and then they take over.


Good post, and very accurate.

[Uton]

and very well spoken and articulate

[iruinedyourday]

Again, who are you "competing" against? At least there's competition for FTE on blue, red is just a desolate server with one guild herp derping around.

lol gimp you chose the right username.

[Kergan]

Let's be honest, how many times in the last 3 years has a guild ever toppled the top guild and took their spot? Honestly Holo doing it to Azrael post Nihilum disbanding was the only one I could come up with.

[Uuruk]

Let's be honest, how many times in the last 3 years has a guild ever toppled the top guild and took their spot? Honestly Holo doing it to Azrael post Nihilum disbanding was the only one I could come up with.

I'd like to just see two equal footing guilds.

[Alarti0001]

I think the real question on everyone's mind is, when are you going back to blue and will you be joining Forsaken or Rampage?7

LOL I'd join Empire before I went to blue.

It doesn't sound like you really get the difference between the PvP and PvE server yet. It is a much different dynamic. Competition comes in waves and is not a perpetual thing on this server. Being defeated on a PvP server crushes a guilds moral. Once a guild starts to lose players from several defeats it is basically over until the guild rebuilds months later. Having a strong core simply gives your guild a chance to survive and try again a few months later after working hard starting from scratch again. When there is a competitive force going after the number 1 spot it normally lasts a couple weeks until someone wins out and then they take over.

^^^ Same thing happens in blue. To every competitive guild ever. Just ask Unbrella.

[Alarti0001]

I'd like to just see two equal footing guilds.

2 or even 3... is the best way to play.

[Sosa_Chamberlain]

LOL I'd join Empire before I went to blue.



.

App denied tho

[Alarti0001]

App denied tho

Don't kid yourself. I'm a cleric an you'd take my app just for the RnF fodder alone.

[Kergan]

I'd like to just see two equal footing guilds.

We'd all like that, but the only time you'll get it is when one guild is on the way up and the other on the way down, and only for like a week.

It's also never happened for any sustained period of time on any EQ PVP server ever. The game just isn't built for it.

[Alarti0001]

We'd all like that, but the only time you'll get it is when one guild is on the way up and the other on the way down, and only for like a week.

It's also never happened for any sustained period of time on any EQ PVP server ever. The game just isn't built for it.

It's more about the players than the game I think.

[Eslade]

It's more about the players than the game I think.

by so you are in fact hating the player and not the game?

[Kergan]

When your "reward" for spending all the time climbing uphill to defeat a superior force is the ability the do the same PVE content for the same loot that you could have received by just joining them with 1/10 of the effort, you have a game that isn't designed to be PVP-centric or encourage competition.

[Eslade]

When your "reward" for spending all the time climbing uphill to defeat a superior force is the ability the do the same PVE content for the same loot that you could have received by just joining them with 1/10 of the effort, you have a game that isn't designed to be PVP-centric or encourage competition.

-A_Nihilum_member_5728

[Kergan]

That's my point. I had better gear on 3 different characters with like 70 DKP in Nihilum than Azrael people who played 14 hours a day.

[Pikrib]

That's my point. I had better gear on 3 different characters with like 70 DKP in Nihilum than Azrael people who played 14 hours a day.

How many bloomins did it cost ya though?

[Kergan]

How many bloomins did it cost ya though?

None. By 50 DKP any Nihilum member had trak bp/VS legs, VP weapons, epic and either a CoF or BCG. It was like standard issue.

[Pikrib]

None. By 50 DKP any Nihilum member had trak bp/VS legs, VP weapons, epic and either a CoF or BCG. It was like standard issue.

Yeah, you did a lot of fluffing though. Farzo had to nut swing 8 months to get a haste item in Empire, and it's wasn't even a 36%er.

[SHOWITME]

kergan was also the only 1 willing to play a shaman and show up to raids

pixels come ez when u willin to do that

[Kergan]

I never minded being a buffbot, it kept me at least halfway paying attention during raids. I remember being excited when I got the PE hammer so I could now fully buff people, that is sorta like a janitor being excited to get a new mop.

[AzzarTheGod]

When your "reward" for spending all the time climbing uphill to defeat a superior force is the ability the do the same PVE content for the same loot that you could have received by just joining them with 1/10 of the effort, you have a game that isn't designed to be PVP-centric or encourage competition.

This guy seems pretty smart.

Combine this with the fear and public shaming of dying even just once in 3 years.

You could fill volumes with why Guild VS Guild competition requires staff intervention, regulation, and handicapping. There's so many community factors that add to the long list of disincentives for PvP.

If you want people to take risks and put their egos on the line...they are going to need a reason to risk contesting. And the chance to snipe PD doesn't count.

Staff intervention done right is what the server has always needed. Grats Holocaust 1.0 destruction. Exactly what the server did not need.

I remember when Holocaust 2.0 was first reforming after Nihilum. Colgate reached out several times to Azrael asking to control rosters and keep it 30v30 40v40, etc. I saw the SS's, we all did. Lite said suck a dick after weeks of being approached, Colgate said cool story we'll recruit until your dead. The rest is history.

TMO is still paying for Lite's sins.

[Vanquisher]

yeah lite said suck a dick so u recruit 200 people, right

[MEGANS LAW]

yeah lite said suck a dick so u recruit 200 people, right

he said "recruit and contest" when gongshow/colgate asked him for guild recruitment caps.

shrug. he got what he wanted. we recruited and contested and won.

[daasgoot]

he said "recruit and contest" when gongshow/colgate asked him for guild recruitment caps.

shrug. he got what he wanted. we recruited and contested and won.

but never stopped recruiting u erudite

[Drakaris]

Yeah, you did a lot of fluffing though. Farzo had to nut swing 8 months to get a haste item in Empire, and it's wasn't even a 36%er.

Poor guy is fully convinced nihilum wasn't going to gear him. It all happened at 50 dkp. Membership was capped at optimal levels. Apps were turned down to allow a #2 or #3 guild which weren't grieved out of planar raids. Azrael had no interest in planar raids and wanted to snipe the top tier mobs if anyone remembered correctly.

Empire is just about recruiting the whole server until you cannot farm a zone without an <empire> kill crew ganking you for lols.

[HippoNipple]

but never stopped recruiting u erudite

The competition said to recruit.

You know the timers, they said.

[Drakaris]

The competition said to recruit.

You know the timers, they said.

Stasis was one of those people ;)

He's now in empire getting the best loot.

[LulzSect]

https://i2.wp.com/i46.tinypic.com/2qv8s3l.png

[Kergan]

Poor guy is fully convinced nihilum wasn't going to gear him. It all happened at 50 dkp. Membership was capped at optimal levels. Apps were turned down to allow a #2 or #3 guild which weren't grieved out of planar raids. Azrael had no interest in planar raids and wanted to snipe the top tier mobs if anyone remembered correctly.

Empire is just about recruiting the whole server until you cannot farm a zone without an <empire> kill crew ganking you for lols.

I agree except with the part where you said stuff.

Membership was never capped. In a year I never saw a single recruit turned down because "we were full". In fact Nizzar stated on multiple occasions he thought people he turned down would just quit and hurt the server pop so he wouldn't - something which I mostly agree with tbh. We even had sub level 50 recruits if they could contribute (like clerics). At no point ever did we not have enough people to clear a raid mob on a scheduled raid, and often times raided with 3-4x the required players.

We also actively recruited high level/competent players from the lesser guilds, batphoned PVP to wipe their raids, did things like corpse camp RD after a PVE Gore wipe, etc. Niz wanted total dominance and would do anything to keep the pixel flow going, and didn't give a flying fuck about what any other guilds wanted.

Trying to revise history to paint Nihilum as some guild of saints trying to foster competition that was disbanded by a corrupt GM for no reason is just fucking dumb dude. Everyone knows, including sane ex members like myself, that Nihilum crushed competition when it popped up with the full force of 50+ VP keyed neckbeards. It's one of the things I loved about the guild. :)

[Drakaris]

I agree except with the part where you said stuff.

Membership was never capped. In a year I never saw a single recruit turned down because "we were full". In fact Nizzar stated on multiple occasions he thought people he turned down would just quit and hurt the server pop so he wouldn't - something which I mostly agree with tbh. We even had sub level 50 recruits if they could contribute (like clerics). At no point ever did we not have enough people to clear a raid mob on a scheduled raid, and often times raided with 3-4x the required players.

We also actively recruited high level/competent players from the lesser guilds, batphoned PVP to wipe their raids, did things like corpse camp RD after a PVE Gore wipe, etc. Niz wanted total dominance and would do anything to keep the pixel flow going, and didn't give a flying fuck about what any other guilds wanted.

Trying to revise history to paint Nihilum as some guild of saints trying to foster competition that was disbanded by a corrupt GM for no reason is just fucking dumb dude. Everyone knows, including sane ex members like myself, that Nihilum crushed competition when it popped up with the full force of 50+ VP keyed neckbeards. It's one of the things I loved about the guild. :)

Only ones I see rewriting history on the regular is empire tbh. Did you also forget when nizzar and elderan wanted to give RD targets from our desired mob pool such as VS to keep the guild "alive" and prevent it from folding into another Azrael feeder guild?

[LulzSect]

https://i2.wp.com/i46.tinypic.com/2qv8s3l.png
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/702/887/f71.jpg

[Eslade]

Only ones I see rewriting history on the regular is empire tbh. Did you also forget when nizzar and elderan wanted to give RD targets from our desired mob pool such as VS to keep the guild "alive" and prevent it from folding into another Azrael feeder guild?

That's a rewrite also. Rd was asked to not raid with azrael in exchange for a few dragons a week. nihilum just wanted to snuff out azrael. it wasn't some charity to keep Rd alive it was too try to hurt nihilum's competition.

[Alarti0001]

by so you are in fact hating the player and not the game?

Haha yep.

When your "reward" for spending all the time climbing uphill to defeat a superior force is the ability the do the same PVE content for the same loot that you could have received by just joining them with 1/10 of the effort, you have a game that isn't designed to be PVP-centric or encourage competition.

No... the reward is the fight to get on top. Fun > Loot. Maybe red player base is just too loot-centric?

[Kergan]

Only ones I see rewriting history on the regular is empire tbh. Did you also forget when nizzar and elderan wanted to give RD targets from our desired mob pool such as VS to keep the guild "alive" and prevent it from folding into another Azrael feeder guild?

Oh you mean the mobs we let RD have, but if one of the items we wanted dropped they had to give it to us even though they killed the mob?

Yeah that definitely was for the best of the server.

[Eccezan]

Haha yep.



No... the reward is the fight to get on top. Fun > Loot. Maybe red player base is just too loot-centric?

http://i.imgur.com/zzL96zZ.png

[Drakaris]

Oh you mean the mobs we let RD have, but if one of the items we wanted dropped they had to give it to us even though they killed the mob?

Yeah that definitely was for the best of the server.

Lol naw it was the loot whores in nihilum that are now in empire that were saying that shit. "What happens if x y or z drops? I still need that!"

I remember the names of the ppl kicking up a stink about rd getting mobs and guess what? They are now all tagged empire.

[daasgoot]

The competition said to recruit.

You know the timers, they said.

hehe

empire doesn't want to keep recruiting and never has

but lite told them to.. sooo, they have to keep recruiting forever.

dat logic tho?

[Pikrib]

Kergan needs to go hang with the great Nizzar and stop shitting up every thread.

Maybe you can go plant some trees for him or fish off his skif or some shit.

[Koota]

That's a rewrite also. Rd was asked to not raid with azrael in exchange for a few dragons a week. nihilum just wanted to snuff out azrael. it wasn't some charity to keep Rd alive it was too try to hurt nihilum's competition.

Eslade is right

[AzzarTheGod]

Lite said recruit man, what is a pal 2 do?

[Kergan]

Lol naw it was the loot whores in nihilum that are now in empire that were saying that shit. "What happens if x y or z drops? I still need that!"

I remember the names of the ppl kicking up a stink about rd getting mobs and guess what? They are now all tagged empire.

It wasn't just talk, it was the agreement made between HB and Nizzar.

I was one of the most vocal people in the guild about supporting RD to foster competition. Funny I don't remember you saying jack shit though.

Also where was all this talk when you thought you were next up for a SoW sword? You didn't start sperging out about fostering competition until you needed some to get you pixels, after burning down the pixel train bridge with your butterbrained ramblings and false accusations.

I also don't remember you being tagged Holo in the early days when were were struggling to get 2 groups to drop a dragon. Basically you've rode every possible gravy train until you were forcibly removed, and then only at that point did you suddenly want another guild to have a shot.

[Kaahbal]

Alot of valid points here.

So when is Empire gonna stop recruiting? When aimchat crew are fully NToV geared?

Fuck it is even encourage Empire to split up into two and fight when not raiding... Zero shits given about who poopsock Vindi every 8 hours. I just want a server with several factions that dosnt fly 60% of the population under the same tag.

[minakto]

Alot of valid points here.

So when is Empire gonna stop recruiting? When aimchat crew are fully NToV geared?

Fuck it is even encourage Empire to split up into two and fight when not raiding... Zero shits given about who poopsock Vindi every 8 hours. I just want a server with several factions that dosnt fly 60% of the population under the same tag.

Weren't you in Nihilum?

[Kaahbal]

Weren't you in Nihilum?

Yes for about one month when there was competition, when competition died after the famous "42 day reboot" that ruined the oppositions pushed spawn timers, i quit.

[Efwan]

Kergan needs to go hang with the great Nizzar and stop shitting up every thread.

Maybe you can go plant some trees for him or fish off his skif or some shit.

[Drakaris]

It wasn't just talk, it was the agreement made between HB and Nizzar.

I was one of the most vocal people in the guild about supporting RD to foster competition. Funny I don't remember you saying jack shit though.

Also where was all this talk when you thought you were next up for a SoW sword? You didn't start sperging out about fostering competition until you needed some to get you pixels, after burning down the pixel train bridge with your butterbrained ramblings and false accusations.

I also don't remember you being tagged Holo in the early days when were were struggling to get 2 groups to drop a dragon. Basically you've rode every possible gravy train until you were forcibly removed, and then only at that point did you suddenly want another guild to have a shot.

You really are clueless aren't you?

I was pvping Azrael with God's Work to help secure raid targets for Holocaust, while at the same time helping Smoke Break form groups and do raids. I encouraged all the ex-Nihilum apps that were cut loose to go to Smoke Break since God's Work had no interest in recruiting or being a raiding guild.

I've also done countless corpse summons out of pocket for both Smoke Break and also was the one that suggested the name change Blaze (the other names were cringeworthy). But you know I'm a selfish pixel hungry loot whore apparently.

I was tagged Holocaust when the blaze/Holocaust merger went down on the toon I actively raided with, even though I previously supported and assisted them with a God's Work tag.

After being in Holocaust for a while I was asking the officers how long it would take before I was next in line for certain drops I needed still as suggested by Nirgon after he got a Crown. I asked the officers since I was on a dry spell while guys from Blaze were getting a heap of gear, such as Kakarot getting an AoN.

After Dagon got the last sow sword, I took Nirgons advice and asked the officers when I would actually start getting upgrades. The officers all told me I was next in line for a SoW sword at different times unanimously, so this usually implies that they had some sort of chat about it.

So Terp pulled the plug on that agreement and chucked a tantrum when it dropped saying I didn't deserve it and not to award it to me (which I found out many months later) and put Colgate to shit talking me about it, who in turn told everyone I sperged out and gkicked me and all my toons, even though it was taken to tells.

Why would Terp do that? The guy is a piece of shit and gets off on fucking people over when he feels they are no longer useful and has a tendency to do it in the most excruciating way possible. He gets off on it.

He participated on getting the duke banned and is a corrupt VZ/TZ Ex-GM and one of the most hated Ex GMs of that era.

My beef is with Terp and Colgate and always has been.

[Kergan]

Kergan needs to go hang with the great Nizzar and stop shitting up every thread.

Maybe you can go plant some trees for him or fish off his skif or some shit.

You need to take a FQ break and detox pal, you used to be a comical fellow who posted funny things instead of these kinda crybaby posts.

Feel free to come hang w/ me on EQ2 bluebie prog server I'll hook you up and we can hang out during your FQ detox.

[Snapple]

You really are clueless aren't you?

I was pvping Azrael with God's Work to help secure raid targets for Holocaust, while at the same time helping Smoke Break form groups and do raids. I encouraged all the ex-Nihilum apps that were cut loose to go to Smoke Break since God's Work had no interest in recruiting or being a raiding guild.

I've also done countless corpse summons out of pocket for both Smoke Break and also was the one that suggested the name change Blaze (the other names were cringeworthy). But you know I'm a selfish pixel hungry loot whore apparently.

I was tagged Holocaust when the blaze/Holocaust merger went down on the toon I actively raided with, even though I previously supported and assisted them with a God's Work tag.

After being in Holocaust for a while I was asking the officers how long it would take before I was next in line for certain drops I needed still as suggested by Nirgon after he got a Crown. I asked the officers since I was on a dry spell while guys from Blaze were getting a heap of gear, such as Kakarot getting an AoN.

After Dagon got the last sow sword, I took Nirgons advice and asked the officers when I would actually start getting upgrades. The officers all told me I was next in line for a SoW sword at different times unanimously, so this usually implies that they had some sort of chat about it.

So Terp pulled the plug on that agreement and chucked a tantrum when it dropped saying I didn't deserve it and not to award it to me (which I found out many months later) and put Colgate to shit talking me about it, who in turn told everyone I sperged out and gkicked me and all my toons, even though it was taken to tells.

Why would Terp do that? The guy is a piece of shit and gets off on fucking people over when he feels they are no longer useful and has a tendency to do it in the most excruciating way possible. He gets off on it.

He participated on getting the duke banned and is a corrupt VZ/TZ Ex-GM and one of the most hated Ex GMs of that era.

My beef is with Terp and Colgate and always has been.

holy shit

nice 1 kergan u got this dude to re-create war and peace on the forums

[Snapple]

Kergan needs to go hang with the great Nizzar and stop shitting up every thread.

Maybe you can go plant some trees for him or fish off his skif or some shit.

class A brain rot

[Uuruk]

You really are clueless aren't you?

I was pvping Azrael with God's Work to help secure raid targets for Holocaust, while at the same time helping Smoke Break form groups and do raids. I encouraged all the ex-Nihilum apps that were cut loose to go to Smoke Break since God's Work had no interest in recruiting or being a raiding guild.

I've also done countless corpse summons out of pocket for both Smoke Break and also was the one that suggested the name change Blaze (the other names were cringeworthy). But you know I'm a selfish pixel hungry loot whore apparently.

I was tagged Holocaust when the blaze/Holocaust merger went down on the toon I actively raided with, even though I previously supported and assisted them with a God's Work tag.

After being in Holocaust for a while I was asking the officers how long it would take before I was next in line for certain drops I needed still as suggested by Nirgon after he got a Crown. I asked the officers since I was on a dry spell while guys from Blaze were getting a heap of gear, such as Kakarot getting an AoN.

After Dagon got the last sow sword, I took Nirgons advice and asked the officers when I would actually start getting upgrades. The officers all told me I was next in line for a SoW sword at different times unanimously, so this usually implies that they had some sort of chat about it.

So Terp pulled the plug on that agreement and chucked a tantrum when it dropped saying I didn't deserve it and not to award it to me (which I found out many months later) and put Colgate to shit talking me about it, who in turn told everyone I sperged out and gkicked me and all my toons, even though it was taken to tells.

Why would Terp do that? The guy is a piece of shit and gets off on fucking people over when he feels they are no longer useful and has a tendency to do it in the most excruciating way possible. He gets off on it.

He participated on getting the duke banned and is a corrupt VZ/TZ Ex-GM and one of the most hated Ex GMs of that era.

My beef is with Terp and Colgate and always has been.

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[wts]

Was waiting to see how long it would take you guys to notice that individual zones are blue have higher populations then your entire server #tryredtoday lol

This was a quality troll.

[Kergan]

You really are clueless aren't you?

I was pvping Azrael with God's Work to help secure raid targets for Holocaust, while at the same time helping Smoke Break form groups and do raids. I encouraged all the ex-Nihilum apps that were cut loose to go to Smoke Break since God's Work had no interest in recruiting or being a raiding guild.

I've also done countless corpse summons out of pocket for both Smoke Break and also was the one that suggested the name change Blaze (the other names were cringeworthy). But you know I'm a selfish pixel hungry loot whore apparently.

I was tagged Holocaust when the blaze/Holocaust merger went down on the toon I actively raided with, even though I previously supported and assisted them with a God's Work tag.

After being in Holocaust for a while I was asking the officers how long it would take before I was next in line for certain drops I needed still as suggested by Nirgon after he got a Crown. I asked the officers since I was on a dry spell while guys from Blaze were getting a heap of gear, such as Kakarot getting an AoN.

After Dagon got the last sow sword, I took Nirgons advice and asked the officers when I would actually start getting upgrades. The officers all told me I was next in line for a SoW sword at different times unanimously, so this usually implies that they had some sort of chat about it.

So Terp pulled the plug on that agreement and chucked a tantrum when it dropped saying I didn't deserve it and not to award it to me (which I found out many months later) and put Colgate to shit talking me about it, who in turn told everyone I sperged out and gkicked me and all my toons, even though it was taken to tells.

Why would Terp do that? The guy is a piece of shit and gets off on fucking people over when he feels they are no longer useful and has a tendency to do it in the most excruciating way possible. He gets off on it.

He participated on getting the duke banned and is a corrupt VZ/TZ Ex-GM and one of the most hated Ex GMs of that era.

My beef is with Terp and Colgate and always has been.

Legitimately didn't read this.

also TLDR

[Pikrib]

Legitimately didn't read this.

also TLDR

Oh I'm sure u did u psycho.

[Pikrib]

This guy seems pretty smart.

Combine this with the fear and public shaming of dying even just once in 3 years.

You could fill volumes with why Guild VS Guild competition requires staff intervention, regulation, and handicapping. There's so many community factors that add to the long list of disincentives for PvP.

If you want people to take risks and put their egos on the line...they are going to need a reason to risk contesting. And the chance to snipe PD doesn't count.

Staff intervention done right is what the server has always needed. Grats Holocaust 1.0 destruction. Exactly what the server did not need.

I remember when Holocaust 2.0 was first reforming after Nihilum. Colgate reached out several times to Azrael asking to control rosters and keep it 30v30 40v40, etc. I saw the SS's, we all did. Lite said suck a dick after weeks of being approached, Colgate said cool story we'll recruit until your dead. The rest is history.

TMO is still paying for Lite's sins.

I agree except with the part where you said stuff.

Membership was never capped. In a year I never saw a single recruit turned down because "we were full". In fact Nizzar stated on multiple occasions he thought people he turned down would just quit and hurt the server pop so he wouldn't - something which I mostly agree with tbh. We even had sub level 50 recruits if they could contribute (like clerics). At no point ever did we not have enough people to clear a raid mob on a scheduled raid, and often times raided with 3-4x the required players.

We also actively recruited high level/competent players from the lesser guilds, batphoned PVP to wipe their raids, did things like corpse camp RD after a PVE Gore wipe, etc. Niz wanted total dominance and would do anything to keep the pixel flow going, and didn't give a flying fuck about what any other guilds wanted.

Trying to revise history to paint Nihilum as some guild of saints trying to foster competition that was disbanded by a corrupt GM for no reason is just fucking dumb dude. Everyone knows, including sane ex members like myself, that Nihilum crushed competition when it popped up with the full force of 50+ VP keyed neckbeards. It's one of the things I loved about the guild. :)

It wasn't just talk, it was the agreement made between HB and Nizzar.

I was one of the most vocal people in the guild about supporting RD to foster competition. Funny I don't remember you saying jack shit though.

Also where was all this talk when you thought you were next up for a SoW sword? You didn't start sperging out about fostering competition until you needed some to get you pixels, after burning down the pixel train bridge with your butterbrained ramblings and false accusations.

I also don't remember you being tagged Holo in the early days when were were struggling to get 2 groups to drop a dragon. Basically you've rode every possible gravy train until you were forcibly removed, and then only at that point did you suddenly want another guild to have a shot.

You really are clueless aren't you?

I was pvping Azrael with God's Work to help secure raid targets for Holocaust, while at the same time helping Smoke Break form groups and do raids. I encouraged all the ex-Nihilum apps that were cut loose to go to Smoke Break since God's Work had no interest in recruiting or being a raiding guild.

I've also done countless corpse summons out of pocket for both Smoke Break and also was the one that suggested the name change Blaze (the other names were cringeworthy). But you know I'm a selfish pixel hungry loot whore apparently.

I was tagged Holocaust when the blaze/Holocaust merger went down on the toon I actively raided with, even though I previously supported and assisted them with a God's Work tag.

After being in Holocaust for a while I was asking the officers how long it would take before I was next in line for certain drops I needed still as suggested by Nirgon after he got a Crown. I asked the officers since I was on a dry spell while guys from Blaze were getting a heap of gear, such as Kakarot getting an AoN.

After Dagon got the last sow sword, I took Nirgons advice and asked the officers when I would actually start getting upgrades. The officers all told me I was next in line for a SoW sword at different times unanimously, so this usually implies that they had some sort of chat about it.

So Terp pulled the plug on that agreement and chucked a tantrum when it dropped saying I didn't deserve it and not to award it to me (which I found out many months later) and put Colgate to shit talking me about it, who in turn told everyone I sperged out and gkicked me and all my toons, even though it was taken to tells.

Why would Terp do that? The guy is a piece of shit and gets off on fucking people over when he feels they are no longer useful and has a tendency to do it in the most excruciating way possible. He gets off on it.

He participated on getting the duke banned and is a corrupt VZ/TZ Ex-GM and one of the most hated Ex GMs of that era.

My beef is with Terp and Colgate and always has been.

[Kergan]

Oh I'm sure u did u psycho.

No I actually didn't. Usually I will but I was like fuck this man I am not reading this. Honestly.

You gonna join me in EQ part 2 pal?

[Eslade]

so many manifestos in one thread. gonna have to bookmark and send to the FBI later.

[Pikrib]

No I actually didn't. Usually I will but I was like fuck this man I am not reading this. Honestly.

You gonna join me in EQ part 2 pal?

Sure pal! Just go to their forums and wait for me.

[Snapple]

Sure pal! Just go to their forums and wait for me.

Fat

[magician]

KRINGING AT EACH AND EVERYONE ONE OF YOU


IF YOU NEED ME ILL BE IN DA HALLS OF TESTING

[Gnomegrown2]

KRINGING AT EACH AND EVERYONE ONE OF YOU


IF YOU NEED ME ILL BE IN DA HALLS OF TESTING

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