Is it possible to play end-game content as a new player?

[simp403]

So I've been playing for about a month now, have a level 25 necromancer. It's been great fun thus far, but I feel so far behind and I also feel an immense pressure to level quickly. This hasn't been put on me by other players, rather, I feel that if I don't level quickly enough and get enough plat to purchase a pre-nerf CoS, I'm going to always be behind on content.

However, it also feels like good camps are always occupied by twinked characters. I've tried to get treants in SK for a couple days now and there's always a character with far better gear than me camping the area. I logged on at 8:30am central time on a Tuesday and it was still taken. I won't ever be able to hold a camp down as well as a person with much better gear than myself but I also won't be able to get gear if I can't get on a good camp to grind out plat.

Even if I were to get enough plat for decent gear and level up to 60, what chance do I have of ever being able to touch endgame content when there are multiple guilds full of geared out players who have been on the server for three years already? Overall, it feels like there's not much of a point to

Now I prepare myself for the inevitable posts flaming me for whining and telling me to join red. I know that some of my impressions are a tad irrational, I'm mostly just putting them out there to get feedback rather than trying to complain. I get that I should play the game to have fun and not to get the best gear, but I also feel like the game isn't as enjoyable when it seems like there's a ceiling on how far I can progress.

[snots]

I started in May as monk, not played on P99 before. I'm now lvl 60 with epic and in the guild Forsaken doing server firsts in NTOV. It's all in your mind and all about how much you want it.

Good luck.

[Swish]

Jokes aside, you would get to 60 quicker on red ;)

[simp403]

I started in May as monk, not played on P99 before. I'm now lvl 60 with epic and in the guild Forsaken doing server firsts in NTOV. It's all in your mind and all about how much you want it.

Good luck.

So did you mainly just focus on leveling to 60, first, instead of trying to gear up while you leveled or farm plat? Would you recommend dungeons over outdoor zones for leveling? I've been thinking about shifting to Mistmoore but it seems so packed.

[curtischoy]

snots, you have too much play time :)

simp403, it is absolutely possible to attain high end gear down the road. It does not matter at all how long it takes you to level. I played P99 for over a year before I started playing a lot and got a character over lvl 20. I don't have all the uber gear, but I have some PoSky loot and other pieces as well.

I get that I should play the game to have fun and not to get the best gear, but I also feel like the game isn't as enjoyable when it seems like there's a ceiling on how far I can progress.

This is, by definition, P99. There IS a ceiling. You will never get loot better than Velious gear. That being said, this game is fun as shit. It takes me forever to level and I enjoy the hell out of it. But I am a rarer breed in that I enjoy leveling and don't really crave end game.

Are you in a guild? Guilds make everything more fun because you can group with the same cool people on a somewhat regular basis. Treants are a great spot to make some cash but yeah, they are camped a lot. With a guild maybe you could find a group to bang out some exp while earning cash/possible drops on loot instead of waiting for that camp.

Try out different things and see what you like best. IMO the fast road is the worst road.

Also, necros don't need gear =p

[simp403]

I didn't really want to join a guild because I feel like it would be an asshole move to just ditch them if I were to get to 60 and possibly get into a raiding guild.

[Riotgirl]

How much time are you willing to commit? If "end-game" to you means raids & gear, you are only going to get what you are willing to put in. Think if it this way: EQ was designed to be competitive around contested spawns, with spawn times that can be measured in hours to days, with variable drop rates (ridiculously low on certain mobs).

If you need a drop from Inny, good luck. Velious will help matters to an extent, but the situation remains the same: you need to demonstrate a degree of commitment to be in with a shout. Or spend an inordinate amount of time playing TunnelQuest.

What are your priorities in the game? In what timescales do you wish to achieve your priorities? How much time and effort are you willing to commit?

The ceiling will be mob spawn rates, contested content, and drop rates. If you're shooting for a Mage epic for example, think about (a) what drops you require, (b) which mobs drops what you require, (c) spawn rate, and (d) number of other players ahead of you in the queue.

Stretch out your timescales quite significantly and you may get there. However, do not be under any illusion about the commitment required and the road-blocks ahead. Also, if you are serious about raid content, you're going to need to join a Guild that has access to the content you require.

Or get to know a few players, attend a few weddings. Bingo!

[Korain]

Don't rush this game. This game is not like WoW in that the game begins once you hit the level cap. Take it slow, enjoy leveling, and go at your own pace. If that's fast, go fast. If it's not, don't feel pressured.

As a necro, you should be able to make money and get drops ezpz. You can solo some ridiculous things.

[Ebener]

Money gets much easier to come by as you get more levels. At level 25 I would move to Lake of Ill Omen and then at 30 you can move over to Frontier Mountain giant fort for exp where you will have a chance at Forest Loop.

[Hauser]

However, it also feels like good camps are always occupied by twinked characters.

This is the problem. You can get end game loots easier then a fucking sola xp group because theres nothin but fungis and epics running around from lvl1.

Getting end game loots is just a matter of signing up to #1 and being a good app. Just ask them what u need to do (tracking most likely) and plug away till ur full member and the loot will come fast.

[pharmakos]

i've seen motivated people come in to the game recently, get to level 60, and start raiding. i even saw a guy do it with a warrior as his first character. it is possible.

[jarshale]

A guy I know who started a few months back just helped take out Tormax in Kael on launch day. Put in the time and it will happen.

[Nazareth73]

Jokes aside, you would get to 60 quicker on red ;)

It's worth reading your posts every day to see what crazy gif you got rolling at the bottom. Flaming Blond Beauty Queen is priceless!

The red experience puts the fear of god in ya!

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I started in May as monk, not played on P99 before. I'm now lvl 60 with epic and in the guild Forsaken doing server firsts in NTOV. It's all in your mind and all about how much you want it.

Good luck.

Who are you, a motivational speaker or something? Is your char named Tony Robbins?

realistically, op, unless you are Mr. "If you will it is no dream" above, it normally takes time -- months, not weeks -- to build a character, a bank, a reputation, make friends, and so forth. The happy news is, the journey is fun if you like this gameworld. If you don't like this game world, you really won't enjoy the end content anyway, so why bother?

[phacemeltar]

learn how to necro-heal and join groups. everyone loves a necro that doesnt just med all the time, and in a group you can go after bigger targets.. thus yielding more xp for your pool

also, this (http://wiki.project1999.com/Recommended_Levels_and_ZEM_List).

[zanderklocke]

At end game, you can either farm plat to get high end items items, or you can contribute a great deal to one of the zerg guilds dominating the server. Whichever you decide is more fun is the route you should take. However, in Velious, most of the high-end items are no drop, so you aren't really able to do the first option as much unlike Kunark.

[LGraves]

the bard in Feerrott drops decent money. If you can't get on the treant list. If you haven't, look up Sesserdrix's Necro guide. you might have to be a little creative with finding a spot though. Grouping is also an option, just don't feel bad if you can't find one...(MM/Unrest)

What everyone says is true. You just have to decide how much time you want to put in.

[Swish]

It's worth reading your posts every day to see what crazy gif you got rolling at the bottom. Flaming Blond Beauty Queen is priceless!

The red experience puts the fear of god in ya!

http://i.imgur.com/6qBHT.gif

[LGraves]

^ lol at the birthday cake fail

[Rithiel]

Could always try the sister hut in Ocean of Tears, but I don't know if a necro can sell to the dwarf merchant there.

[JurisDictum]

I try to give newer players the straight dope regarding raiding on this server. There will always be a number 1 raiding guild that mobilizes for raid targets within 15-30 mins. Right now its Rampage. These guilds want you to play a lot, don't make mistakes often, and be available to answer the batphone most the time. (They also require lvl 60 and full MR gear; and its pretty common for players to have at least 1 60 alt).

If that's you, you can have better gear than many of the people that played on this server for many years. Otherwise, you are going to have to be patient and accept gearing will be much slower than if you were in guild number 1. There might be some gear that is near impossible to get outside of the number 1 guild.

Other guilds have a core of players just as good as the top guild (where they often spent time in), but they simply don't have the competitive attitude or will to race for FTE that the number 1 guild has. Most people choose these guilds anyway, because they don't like EQ holding them hostage. It's important to note that these guilds will still raid at 1-2 am....It's just not expected from the membership.

[Castcalm]

You will not catch up. Find something else to enjoy, or let it go.

[curtischoy]

You will not catch up. Find something else to enjoy, or let it go.

Yeah, this is just not true. As long as you move forward, it doesn't matter how slowly, you will eventually catch up because there is nothing after Velious.

As long as you make forward progress towards an object that is not moving, you will eventually reach it.

[simp403]

I doubt anyone will read this at this point, but I was able to snag Treants last Saturday and yesterday. I stuck on the camp both times for over 12 hours and now I have a Circlet of Shadow and ~3000 more plat in the bank. Thank you for the advice!

[LGraves]

Grats man!

[pharmakos]

I doubt anyone will read this at this point, but I was able to snag Treants last Saturday and yesterday. I stuck on the camp both times for over 12 hours and now I have a Circlet of Shadow and ~3000 more plat in the bank. Thank you for the advice!

woot

[Celatus]

Been on the server for less than a year and Im in the top 5 warriors on the server now. It does not take long if you know what your doing and my war is my second toon on the server made a necro first to farm money.

Necros are easy to get to 60 and you could be in the top guild in no time if you're a good player and have good playtime.