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4WOFURY
08-03-2015, 11:52 PM
Can we get confirmation that it's still in game? Haven't seen one, been looking for an hour now.

contemptor
08-04-2015, 12:34 AM
Multiple people got it yesterday, I dunno if they really would've removed it in <48 hours.

Auvdar
08-04-2015, 12:38 AM
Saw a few BFG's today, and it was definitily in on Beta. So yea, probably still in. Yay knockbacks!

4WOFURY
08-04-2015, 12:43 AM
[Mon Aug 03 12:43:08 2015] Rogean BROADCASTS, 'Iceclad is being rebooted in 5 minutes. Please get somewhere safe if you're in that zone.'

Just wondering if they were taken out.

Zinyen
08-04-2015, 02:04 AM
[Mon Aug 03 12:43:08 2015] Rogean BROADCASTS, 'Iceclad is being rebooted in 5 minutes. Please get somewhere safe if you're in that zone.'

Just wondering if they were taken out.

They were around for at least 3 months on live, so if they got removed in a day here i'd be pretty surprised.

Sebekkha
08-04-2015, 02:06 AM
I got one yesterday at approx 11am BST (british summer time) in the water surrounding the lillypads from gnome isle


then realised monks cant use the BFG... damn!

webrunner5
08-04-2015, 11:08 AM
Seaworthy Planking Doesn't just grow on Trees! :p Keep looking. :D

Kender
08-04-2015, 06:23 PM
it used to before it was chopped down and turned into a boat that then wasnt as seaworthy as the plank it was made from

Ravager
08-04-2015, 07:11 PM
I got one yesterday at approx 11am BST (british summer time) in the water surrounding the lillypads from gnome isle


then realised monks cant use the BFG... damn!

Hang on to it for a few years and sell the MQ for mucho plat.

JayDee
08-06-2015, 01:22 AM
Can we get a response from staff about this? :p

Pyrocat
08-06-2015, 01:49 AM
Haven't heard of a single person getting one since the zone went down.

quido
08-06-2015, 02:06 AM
same on red

Aikido
08-06-2015, 11:08 AM
I looked for 6 hours with bard speed on every island and even under the water and the bigger islands, basically the whole zone after it got rebooted and still couldn't find it, and the GMs hasn't replied me or anyone else yet about what they did to the planks, apparently there was some kind of exploit with the spawn locations. So I think they're gonna fix it and let us know (hopefully) besides I haven't met anyone who has gotten it after the reboot :( please let me know if anything happens

Docx
08-07-2015, 01:46 AM
Any update on this?

indiscriminate_hater
08-07-2015, 01:57 AM
Turns out someone has just been poopsocking it this whole time *shrug*

Pint
08-07-2015, 02:02 AM
Fuck these dumb planks, fix velious textures first

JayDee
08-07-2015, 02:18 AM
knock knock

captnamazing
08-07-2015, 03:09 AM
the GMs hasn't replied me or anyone else yet about what they did to the planks, apparently there was some kind of exploit with the spawn locations. So I think they're gonna fix it and let us know (hopefully)

what makes you think those things if you haven't heard anything from a GM?

JayDee
08-07-2015, 04:45 AM
This item was going to draw my group of friends out of retirement. We will not be playing if this item is not reinstated.

And not in a retaliatory sense, as I do not expect the staff to care one way or the other. We were just looking forward to playing with this item and don't feel it's worth any more of our time or money otherwise.

Pringles
08-07-2015, 12:21 PM
and don't feel it's worth any more of our time or money otherwise.

What money would that be, hmmm?

Wfrench1234
08-07-2015, 01:12 PM
What money would that be, hmmm?

I'm not saying this guy donates (he probably doesn't considering his attitude) but some people do. Of course donating does not give you any type of power over the people who run the server.

nyclin
08-07-2015, 01:30 PM
BFG enables so much hilarious bullshit, it's not surprising that they disabled it so quickly.

captnamazing
08-07-2015, 03:45 PM
if they really took it out - major bummer! one of the things I actually looked forward too in Velious

Aikido
08-07-2015, 05:01 PM
what makes you think those things if you haven't heard anything from a GM?



I heard rumors of people taking planks and suiciding to keep many planks on different corpses, and also I saw many corpses on a certain island that was supposedly one of the "spawn" points on beta for the plank

Chrysus
08-07-2015, 06:33 PM
BFG enables so much hilarious bullshit, it's not surprising that they disabled it so quickly.

It would just get the Ivandyr's hoop treatment if caused any real problems.

In my personal opinion of no consequence, it should have been left in for at least the the classic time line, effect nerfed or not, it makes people happy.

Ciroco
08-07-2015, 07:06 PM
Stronghorn's Horn was never removed and I don't remember that being a big deal.

milsorgen
08-07-2015, 07:18 PM
Stronghorn's Horn was never removed and I don't remember that being a big deal.

Is that item within the p99 time frame?

Docx
08-08-2015, 06:06 PM
?

Maner
08-08-2015, 09:07 PM
I heard rumors of people taking planks and suiciding to keep many planks on different corpses, and also I saw many corpses on a certain island that was supposedly one of the "spawn" points on beta for the plank

What does corpsing a no drop for 7days do for anyone?

Nivar Quartz
08-08-2015, 09:31 PM
If they are taken out I don't wanna hear another " not classic " line for a reason to not fix a problem or reimburse something, been a consistent GM crutch for years.

JayDee
08-09-2015, 05:05 AM
They had more pressing matters to tend to like Spirocs of Timorous have faction hits on death for this patch.

Ravager
08-09-2015, 07:56 AM
Still in the game. Just picked one up this morning.

Thulack
08-09-2015, 09:33 AM
Woot. Snagged my planking 10 seconds after logging on this morning.

Baxter
08-09-2015, 10:29 AM
Are you guys finding on the beach? in the water in the middle of nowhere? the ice islands?

Nlaar
08-09-2015, 10:51 AM
Currently spawning like hotcakes...

JayDee
08-09-2015, 03:12 PM
Fucking awesome that its back in but you might want to correct the whole spawn issue

Docx
08-09-2015, 04:52 PM
i believe it has been corrected.

paulgiamatti
08-09-2015, 04:59 PM
Anyone found one since the supposed zone restart today?

Lettuce
08-09-2015, 05:14 PM
Lots of people grabbing bugged plankings today next to the docks who knew it was bugged with BDA being by far the worst offenders. Grats on all your sploited BFGs.

Ele
08-09-2015, 05:59 PM
In an interesting turn of events:

BFG is no an uber status item, but a Scarlet Letter of abusing bugged spawn points.

milsorgen
08-09-2015, 06:28 PM
Lots of people grabbing bugged plankings today next to the docks who knew it was bugged with BDA being by far the worst offenders. Grats on all your sploited BFGs.

All seaworthy planks will be removed and BFGs refunded till the bug is fixed apparently.

Kagey
08-09-2015, 06:30 PM
thats right screw all the people over that got it day 1.

Docx
08-09-2015, 06:31 PM
that is fucked up to screw the people over who got it at the start, i can understand the ones looted today but do some work and let those who did it legit have a reward.

Pringles
08-09-2015, 06:37 PM
Does this mean it was broken day 1, so spawns were "removed", then spawns came back after patch, but still broken? My guess, since all BFGs getting removed.

For those that didnt see:[Sun Aug 09 16:32:32 2015] Rogean BROADCASTS, 'Please note that all seaworthy plankings will be removed from the game, and all BFGs will be removed and refunded the other quest items. The item will be reintroduced later when the spawn bug is fixed.'

Junias
08-09-2015, 06:40 PM
Sure sounds like the bug on day 1 is exactly what happened again today. So makes sense to remove all of them, day 1 and todays.

It really sucks for the legit people who spent 20+ hours scouring the zone this week looking for this.

JayDee
08-09-2015, 06:41 PM
How do you manage to screw up the drop rate for an item that you know will be one of the most sought after items in the entire game? With all due respect, that's a major blunder

arsenalpow
08-09-2015, 06:48 PM
Lots of people grabbing bugged plankings today next to the docks who knew it was bugged with BDA being by far the worst offenders. Grats on all your sploited BFGs.

Are you retarded? We were the ones that reported the bug to Rogean. Nice propaganda though. In vent someone was saying that there was a Rampage guy chain corpsing planks but I didn't get a name so could just be bullshit.

Uuruk
08-09-2015, 07:10 PM
Are you retarded? We were the ones that reported the bug to Rogean. Nice propaganda though. In vent someone was saying that there was a Rampage guy chain corpsing planks but I didn't get a name so could just be bullshit.

CRINGE

Fountree
08-09-2015, 07:12 PM
Why remove the BFGs? I can see removing planks but to remove a quested item like that that's already completed seems a bit heavy handed.

Uuruk
08-09-2015, 07:13 PM
Why remove the BFGs? I can see removing planks but to remove a quested item like that that's already completed seems a bit heavy handed.

This is really hard for you to understand?

Fountree
08-09-2015, 07:17 PM
I'm not that upset about it but I probably won't care when they reintroduce it. It's a novelty item. I mean, I guess I may put in effort to try to get the planking again, maybe get it, quest it, but what would guarantee it wouldn't just be taken away again in the name of a "bug".

Lostprophets
08-09-2015, 07:23 PM
Should remove every single rogue epic and refund all but the book of souls from the servers then...after all, same bug happens with the book of souls

Land, these currently has the same issue the PoHate Rogue book has (though possibly its classic and no one knew but I doubt it).

If you find a fixed spawn location, and its not there, camping out/in will spawn it on your screen to collect.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2003273&postcount=69 ;)

kagrobb
08-09-2015, 07:37 PM
How about make all the BFG's in game now have no proc so they are not the full item and the future ones have the knockback like the og one? and remove all free planks .. happy all around?

Ravager
08-09-2015, 07:51 PM
That sucks. I didn't even know it was bugged. Just got up this morning, swam around the islands and was stoked to find one. So much for that.

Tasslehofp99
08-09-2015, 08:29 PM
That sucks. I didn't even know it was bugged. Just got up this morning, swam around the islands and was stoked to find one. So much for that.

Yeah, lame.

I would not have stayed up looking for one after that repop if I knew they'd be removed. :(

4WOFURY
08-09-2015, 08:50 PM
At this time, I LOL to the people who were trying to sell, and anyone who bought, a Seaworthy Planking MQ for 150-200k.

Kinvalar
08-09-2015, 08:56 PM
I can understand removing the hundreds of banked planks. I feel like its overkill removing the BFGs from the people who have em. Not like theres hundreds of BFGs floating around. I'd be very surprised if there were more than 2 dozen completed BFGs on the server atm.

Rararboker
08-09-2015, 09:00 PM
At this time, I LOL to the people who were trying to sell, and anyone who bought, a Seaworthy Planking MQ for 150-200k.

Why? If you have a full BFG, you get all 3 pieces back.

Kinvalar
08-09-2015, 09:01 PM
Why? If you have a full BFG, you get all 3 pieces back.

I interpreted it that you'd get the rope and wing, not the plank back. Those of us with BFGs having to get new planks later.

Rararboker
08-09-2015, 09:03 PM
Huh, you might be right. I thought it was the other way. That is a little cruel.

captnamazing
08-09-2015, 09:03 PM
RIP Kinvalar

Kinvalar
08-09-2015, 09:07 PM
Kinda irritating that those of us who have BFGs who didn't abuse plank spawns getting penalized because server staff implemented a bugged spawn. Got my BFG legit on day 2, and gonna lose it because people banked hundreds of planks.

Just remove all the planks and leave the few BFGs left alone.

Kinvalar
08-09-2015, 09:08 PM
RIP Kinvalar

I'll not take any sass from you, assling!

JayDee
08-09-2015, 09:38 PM
The only reason you obtained one in the first place was because of the bug. Same shit that happened today.

Side note, if I was working on velious, my first order of business would have been making sure this quest was in working order. I can't imagine what else is not working properly considering this is the first and only thing I have done with this xpac.

Pyrocat
08-09-2015, 09:50 PM
The only reason you obtained one in the first place was because of the bug. Same shit that happened today.

Side note, if I was working on velious, my first order of business would have been making sure this quest was in working order. I can't imagine what else is not working properly considering this is the first and only thing I have done with this xpac.

free. server. unpaid devs. fuck off.

Kinvalar
08-09-2015, 10:11 PM
The only reason you obtained one in the first place was because of the bug. Same shit that happened today.


Considering I spent several of the first hours [after we hit what targets we were doing on day one] of Velious hunting down planks without having any known locs and without relogging I disagree with this bug being the only reason I got one. I made it a priority to waste my time trying to get a plank and it paid off. Just because other people knew the trick about relogging and hoarded tons of planks in their banks doesn't change that.

My point is that most people just banked planks to wait. I've seen maybe a handful of other BFGs and would be sincerely surprised if more than 30 people have even finished one yet. Removing those BFGs is kind of pointless considering how many people will end up with BFGs on this server if they stick to live timeline.

milsorgen
08-09-2015, 11:53 PM
Kinda irritating that those of us who have BFGs who didn't abuse plank spawns getting penalized because server staff implemented a bugged spawn. Got my BFG legit on day 2, and gonna lose it because people banked hundreds of planks.

Just remove all the planks and leave the few BFGs left alone.

http://i.imgur.com/VcBL09G.jpg

paulgiamatti
08-10-2015, 06:09 AM
Should remove every single rogue epic and refund all but the book of souls from the servers then...after all, same bug happens with the book of souls



http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2003273&postcount=69 ;)

Yep

4WOFURY
08-10-2015, 06:30 AM
My main is a Rogue, and I can agree with this. Was very surprised to find it wasn't an 8 hour spawn on here like on live, but was told that's just the way it was, and that the client interfered with ground spawns or something and made them auto repop.

4WOFURY
08-10-2015, 06:30 AM
I don't believe that all ground spawns are 8 hour spawns though.

kagrobb
08-10-2015, 11:20 AM
so just change the drop rate on the wing and rope, if the ground spawns cannot be changed without a huge hassle then then lowering the drop rate, which is fairly rare on the rope as it is, will solve 99% of your problems.

Daldaen
08-10-2015, 12:18 PM
so just change the drop rate on the wing and rope, if the ground spawns cannot be changed without a huge hassle then then lowering the drop rate, which is fairly rare on the rope as it is, will solve 99% of your problems.

This would be a mega retarded change.

We have enough poopsocked camps in Velious. Don't add another.

Keep the planks rare and just figure out a way to prevent auto respawn. Making other piece rare which drop off mobs just pushes people to shit in a sock and farm those mobs. Please no.

Pringles
08-10-2015, 12:22 PM
Im sure if they can figure out how to force luclin models off, and disable spell timers, that they can fix ground spawns ;)

Thulack
08-10-2015, 12:26 PM
Im sure if they can figure out how to force luclin models off, and disable spell timers, that they can fix ground spawns ;)

Just because one thing can be done doesnt mean something else can easily be fixed.

Tasslehofp99
08-10-2015, 01:19 PM
I'm disappointed that this quest has had such issues as well but at the end of the day it really is just a novelty item. Not even a super-useful one, but a cool looking one nonetheless. I'd settle for a stat-less BFG just to have that robot arm thing! lol

yikes
08-10-2015, 04:01 PM
I'm disappointed that this quest has had such issues as well but at the end of the day it really is just a novelty item. Not even a super-useful one, but a cool looking one nonetheless. I'd settle for a stat-less BFG just to have that robot arm thing! lol

As a ranger, I beat everyone but rogues in DPS with mainhand BFG and Trueshot disc....It isnt just a novelty

Kinvalar
08-11-2015, 06:58 PM
As a ranger, I beat everyone but rogues in DPS with mainhand BFG and Trueshot disc....It isnt just a novelty

I was a little underwhelmed by BFG meleeing to be honest. It still functions like a bow, so its damage formula is vastly inferior to a melee weapon. Stationary nonrooted bonus + TS means it's still nice, but not earth shattering.

EDIT: To add... I don't think I agree with the bow dmg calc listed on the wiki. It feels more like there's just no double modifier like there is on melee swings. BFG primary on stationary nonrooted + TS feels like its swinging about like a 40/50 weapon, which is comparable to a 12-13/20 weapon in MH.

Fame
08-11-2015, 08:14 PM
I thought the BFG if used for ranger melee gave the ranger the ability to crit on melee attack, is this not the case? Also, I heard the knockback effect was eleminated by the time the titanium client came out so it wont be doing that either. Any info on this is appreciated, thanks.

Kinvalar
08-11-2015, 08:25 PM
I thought the BFG if used for ranger melee gave the ranger the ability to crit on melee attack, is this not the case? Also, I heard the knockback effect was eleminated by the time the titanium client came out so it wont be doing that either. Any info on this is appreciated, thanks.

The knockback is a clicky and it works here. It doesn't move mobs far (a few feet at best), but not sure if it can move permarooted mobs here, haven't tried. On players (or self) it can knock you back really far depending on layout of the area you're pushing someone. From highest regular spot of ToFS in Iceclad the KB almost throws you into the water to south. In EC at top of tunnel you make it to the grass KBing yourself.

You do get the crits, but its not enough to push it into amazing territory. Also, you consume arrows meleeing with BFG, so you burn through them hard since you can double attack with BFG in primary.

Bardalicious
08-12-2015, 09:01 AM
Any updates on seaworthy planks spawning yet?

Smedy
08-12-2015, 09:04 AM
if blue is anything like red i can confirm that the planks came back with the patch reboot and still are bugged as fuck, they spawn in the same place and instantly respawn when you logoff , hehehe farm em up

more planks than players

Uuruk
08-12-2015, 09:40 AM
if blue is anything like red i can confirm that the planks came back with the patch reboot and still are bugged as fuck, they spawn in the same place and instantly respawn when you logoff , hehehe farm em up

more planks than players

Farm em up and watch them get deleted. You dumb?

Bardalicious
08-12-2015, 09:54 AM
Pretty sure he's trollin', hardly any players in iceclad on red since the supposed removal of them, if there was still an infinite supply there would be all kinds of neckbeards farming them still.

Uuruk
08-12-2015, 09:57 AM
Pretty sure he's trollin', hardly any players in iceclad on red since the supposed removal of them, if there was still an infinite supply there would be all kinds of neckbeards farming them still.

They haven't even put them back in yet have they?

Bardalicious
08-12-2015, 10:00 AM
I can't seem to get a straight answer. But I'm leaning towards no.

yikes
08-12-2015, 10:43 PM
I was a little underwhelmed by BFG meleeing to be honest. It still functions like a bow, so its damage formula is vastly inferior to a melee weapon. Stationary nonrooted bonus + TS means it's still nice, but not earth shattering.

EDIT: To add... I don't think I agree with the bow dmg calc listed on the wiki. It feels more like there's just no double modifier like there is on melee swings. BFG primary on stationary nonrooted + TS feels like its swinging about like a 40/50 weapon, which is comparable to a 12-13/20 weapon in MH.

I'll post a parse againt vindi and lendi when we get to my desk but here are average swings

Non-trueshot non-crit : 50-120ish
Non-trueshot crit: 100-240ish
Trueshit non-crit: 100-230
Trueshit crit: max I saw was 450ish

This is with max dex

yikes
08-13-2015, 01:33 AM
I'll post a parse againt vindi and lendi when we get to my desk but here are average swings

Non-trueshot non-crit : 50-120ish
Non-trueshot crit: 100-240ish
Trueshit non-crit: 100-230
Trueshit crit: max I saw was 450ish

This is with max dex

Derakor the Vindicator in 133s, 177k @1333dps --- Rogue 9k @104dps --- Rogue 9k @97dps --- Rogue 8k @96dps --- Rogue 8k @96dps --- Rogue 8k @86dps --- Ranger (me) 7k @82dps --- Monk 7k @74dps --- Rogue 7k @80dps --- Monk 6k @71dps --- Monk 6k @66dps'

Can't find the Lendi parse....


All this being said....don't remove this item from poor rangers!

Kinvalar
08-13-2015, 06:34 AM
It can definitely be really nice, but I find my parses with it to be unreliable at best. Albeit I don't quite max my dex when buffed (~215-220).

GreldorEQ
08-13-2015, 08:48 AM
Kinvalar, if you haven't picked up that 30/38 bow from DN yet, you should try it out!

Kinvalar
08-13-2015, 03:00 PM
Kinvalar, if you haven't picked up that 30/38 bow from DN yet, you should try it out!

Can get an even better one... The rats can, albeit more rarely, drop the Exquisite weapons. Managed to pull the 32/36 Exquisite one out of there last week.

It's definitely fun to play with, but I haven't really parsed the Exquisite bow in TS yet to really know if it'd beat BFG + Swiftwind in melee. Can get some really mean BFG double attacks + reliability of Swiftwind swings. Would be an interesting thing to check, though.

Docx
08-15-2015, 12:47 PM
rip

JayDee
08-15-2015, 03:34 PM
Literally the one thing my group was looking forward to. Getting lots of work done myself IRL but i'd rather be geeking out with a bfg on EQ :p

Kinvalar
08-15-2015, 03:35 PM
Whats irritating right now is the wing and rope weren't refunded. BFGs removed, but they haven't even removed the actual problem (planks) from people yet.

Rooj
08-15-2015, 04:39 PM
Can someone even explain what is going on with this item? After finding out about RNG melee crits I became slightly interested in it, but I'd rather not waste my time on an item that's going to be taken from me. Someone mentioned the quest gets removed later on so it's kind of a big deal I guess :\

Kinvalar
08-15-2015, 04:45 PM
Outside of the limited usefulness of the clicky... BFG can go in primary, and allows a 2nd weapon in offhand. It melee crits for ranger. It double attacks in melee. It gets double (archery) damage for rangers on nonrooted stationary targets. It is enhanced by Trueshot disc. It also still consumes arrows when meleeing. Planking for the quest is eventually removed.

If you wanna do some napkin math its a 20/50 MH, that is effectively a 40/50 on a nonrooted stationary mob, and 80/50 during trueshot. The one thing I'm having a hard time pinning down personally is what the damage formula is. I believe I was mistaken in thinking it follows a weaker formula in melee.

Non-trueshot non-crit : 50-120ish
Non-trueshot crit: 100-240ish
Trueshit non-crit: 100-230
Trueshit crit: max I saw was 450ish

Going back and looking at parses I'm seeing similar numbers to that, which would be more consistent with it using a normal melee formula. So realistically outside of TS its performing a little better than reasonable access weapons atm (but consuming arrows which is icky). Inside TS its a whirlwind of death.

Looking at a few different sufficient length fights I've got melee parses 40-45dps w/ my normal melee weapons, then TS BFG parses of 65-85 (still seeing a fair bit of variance there).

Kinvalar
08-15-2015, 05:41 PM
MAX HIT from my logs:

Non-trueshot non-crit: 143

Since Trueshot should at best be double, and crit modifiers should be uniform that's the only max hit that matters IMO. Conceivably with my stats a 286 TS normal hit should be possible (my highest in log was 263).

Also, there was (is? haven't checked lately) some issue with worn haste not applying to regular bow attacks (spell haste did still apply) I was curious to see if BFG melee was plagued by this, but it appears not. Looking at the swing intervals for 2 minutes of consecutive attacks I'm seeing the appropriate delay for a 50 dly weapon at capped haste. So that's good news at least.

schnickusaurus
08-28-2015, 11:24 AM
Id like my 1k back spent on ports when this item (planking) is taken away from inventory :/
I dont like losing plats :/ please refund that as well GMs..