Siren Song, Dagger of the Sea

[Getsmurfed]

Currently, Song of the Deep Seas is only an 18 second proc. It's listed as 2.5min on the wiki. Perhaps there's a difference in buff timer between Siren Song and Nature's Melody? Most of the links I've found on Zam don't even list a buff duration.

[Getsmurfed]

I don't know if the absence of proof will qualify as proof, but with Google searches all I can yield is a proc that is 2.5minutes in length. Not a single instance of an 18s buff?

[Getsmurfed]

Will post all the various posts I found later today, going to bed after NToV.

[Ele]

It is 18 seconds in the classic spell file. From Zam (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5857), it appears to have been modified around September 29, 2001. Should also check if it is procing on your group or just yourself. Lucy (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhistory.html?id=1973&source=Live)doesn't identify a modification to the spell duration in the history, so it likely occurred at some point between April 2001 (Velious spell file data) and March 2002 (initial entry on Lucy).

Cross reference for Nature's Melody bug report (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184174), which has the same proc for the life of our server.

SPDat from December 8, 2001
Song of the Deep Sea's
Increase Agility by 30 (L1)
Increase Attack Speed by 60% (L1)
Increase Armor Class (AC) by 15 (L1)
Increase Strength by 30 (L1)


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Classes: None

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Range to Target: 150 feet

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Skill: Singing
Allowable Targets: Full Group

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Resistance Check: None

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Spell Duration: 3 ticks (18 seconds)
Duration Formula: 10

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Spell cast on you: You feel your pulse quicken.
Spell fades: Your battle fury fades.


SPDat from April 4, 2001

Song of the Deep Sea's
Increase Agility by 30 (L1)
Increase Attack Speed by 60% (L1)
Increase Armor Class (AC) by 15 (L1)
Increase Strength by 30 (L1)


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Classes: None

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Range to Target: 150 feet

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Skill: Singing
Allowable Targets: Full Group

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Resistance Check: None

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Spell Duration: 3 ticks (18 seconds)
Duration Formula: 10

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Spell cast on you: You feel your pulse quicken.
Spell fades: Your battle fury fades.

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[Getsmurfed]

It definitely procs on full group. I was dueling group members to test the proc, most assuredly a group 18 second buff at the moment. This essentially renders this particular item pretty useless, even more dead in the water once epic modifies from offhand. Will, link all the other stuff I found, headed to bed.

[Zombiehasslehoff]

I would like to have came here with good evidence that it was changed earlier since I was awarded this dagger as well. After doing some looking around this is what I found:

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October 8, 2001
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*** Item Changes ***

- Increased the duration on Song of the Deep Seas (the proc on a bardic
weapon) dramatically.

Source: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/history/patches-2001-2.html

My counter argument is that this shouldn't be left out since a lot of the ToV gear already has the post upgrade stats from about the same time.

[reborn649]

Any updates on this?

[Ele]

It is a spell file issue. The item stats are already post upgrade (+3str, +40hp over the 1.0 version).

http://i.imgur.com/rxx3prj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/FoMs0LT.png

[reborn649]

Ahh nice find Ele! Hopefully the spell file gets updated =)

[Method]

It is a spell file issue. The item stats are already post upgrade (+3str, +40hp over the 1.0 version).

http://i.imgur.com/rxx3prj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/FoMs0LT.png

Bump will this item be getting the extended buff timer next patch?

[Man0warr]

It shouldn't get the extended buff timer until the October patch. Next patch is March.