Ive heard the Cleric Epic will become much easier soon?

[Wisteso]

Was in a group, discussing the cleric epic. Someone had mentioned that soon (Velious?) there will be a change that dramatically reduces the rarity of a spawn for the epic quest.

Currently there is some spawn that is highly contested, and soon it will be changed to spawn the mob on-demand instead of being a static spawn? Zordakalicus Ragefire maybe?

Any clarification is helpful!

[Jmcwrestling]

I think you might be referring to the pearlescent shards , but I think that came much later on than velious. But I've been wrong before :)

[Uuruk]

Shouldn't happen on this server ever if I remember correct.

[Pikrib]

I think the change where u spawn ragefire in Skyfire happened in 2002

So Uuruk was correct.

[Daldaen]

Mechanically - There will be no changes to the cleric epic that change its difficulty.

Socially however, with Velious released there is likely to be more players in Velious zones and less camping Ragefire 24/7. I don't doubt there will still be Ragefire campers, I just don't think they will be doing it as hard as they typically do, especially those who use Donal's BP to duo him. In this regard you may find you have less competition to get Ragefire.

[williestargell]

It's hopeful that ragefire is camped less (because I have a pearl I want to turn in some day!). But I wouldn't bank on it.

Unless the price of the epic drops, people will continue to MQ the epic, and ragefire's other loot is also still going to be desirable.

[Daldaen]

I don't disagree but I don't think you will see someone there 24/7 like you do currently. There will be better things those people can do with there time and instead just check Ragefire every once in awhile, rather than sock it.

[webrunner5]

I don't disagree but I don't think you will see someone there 24/7 like you do currently. There will be better things those people can do with there time and instead just check Ragefire every once in awhile, rather than sock it.

But I think there might be even more pressure on Ragefire once a lot of people find out it is a Cleric, Shaman with Torpor, or go home in Velious. :D

A lot of Clerics are going to be needed like it or not in that expansion. :p

[Daldaen]

As raid healers for sure, and to some extent high end group camps.

[Freakish]

I keep seeing that argument that everything will be better once Donals BP is nerfed. Completely ignoring that velious will bring about high ac, resist heavy armor. Cleric mana pool/hp will skyrocket. Essentially, Manastone will be the new donals.

[Daldaen]

I think you're over estimating how much mana your typical cleric will gain in Velious and how quickly they will gain it. From my viewings of Ragefire - although limited - the clerics used are typically Alts, not mains. I don't see these characters making huge Hp/mana gains in Velious.

Manastone is a viable alternative but a little more dangerous and tedious than clicking an item every 20 seconds for a few minutes. It just gets a little harder, and maybe encourages you use a 3rd player.

Donal nerf will be just one factor of why Ragefire may suck a little less. More things to do in Velious, especially to start off, when its new, will open up time for more casual clerics to get ragefires I think/hope.

[Uuruk]

I think you're over estimating how much mana your typical cleric will gain in Velious and how quickly they will gain it. From my viewings of Ragefire - although limited - the clerics used are typically Alts, not mains. I don't see these characters making huge Hp/mana gains in Velious.

Manastone is a viable alternative but a little more dangerous and tedious than clicking an item every 20 seconds for a few minutes. It just gets a little harder, and maybe encourages you use a 3rd player.

Donal nerf will be just one factor of why Ragefire may suck a little less. More things to do in Velious, especially to start off, when its new, will open up time for more casual clerics to get ragefires I think/hope.

Without finals what will I do with all my soulfires and other terrible rechargeable clickies blue has

[Wisteso]

Thanks for the information, guys. Clears things up quite a bit

[Freakish]

I've seen a cleric use a manastone in Kunark gear. An alt cleric, using manastone. He barely did it, and he definitely had skill, but it is doable in Kunark gear. Once he gets his plate cycle armor and the monk picks up a few huge AC upgrades? Skill requirement will plummet to be able to manastone kill it.

No Donals bp on this cleric, no VP gear. Maybe had Chardok gauntlets but thats about it.

[Valerik]

I think the timeline will be about 3 months into Velious for epic revamps?

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010314.html

[Ele]

I think the timeline will be about 3 months into Velious for epic revamps?

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010314.html

Cleric revamps (skyfire shards) did not happen until Luclin.

[Valerik]

Man that sucks then. Would have solved a lot of problems with that particular bottleneck.

edit:

Apparently it was about 2 months into Luclin.

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020123.html

[psway]

Worst news (for me) ever. I was anticipating this change. I pretty much stopped playing after witnessing the ragefire situation. Came back today to check on this. Thanks for clearing it up. Sucks.

My cleric only lacks chardok/ragefire. My guild members at the time was buying hearts for like 30k. This change missed the mark by like 54 days.