Windows 10

[Tecmos Deception]

Why does Microsoft think it's a big selling point that you can ask Windows 10 "will I need an umbrella tomorrow?" and it replies that you probably shouldn't? Do people actually see that commercial and think "omfg, I MUST HAVE THIS NEW WINDOWS CAUSE IT ALSO HAS SHITTY SIRI CLONE TECHNOLOGY!!!"?

Get bent, Microsoft. That's no technological marvel any more than the kitchen of the future in those old black-and-white 50s infomercials was remotely like our kitchens today. Teach all my devices to sync themselves and be controlled with ease through the same interface with minimal effort on my part and without significant security risk and at reasonable cost, and then we can talk about how you're going to be the reason why my kids will experience technology I can't even dream of.


Sidenote - Weathermen don't know shit anyways. Must have been 5 times already this summer that the weather channel claimed there was a "100% chance of rain" in the next X period of time, only to see that period of time pass and it's mostly sunny at my house the whole time.


Rabble rabble.

[suppresso]

And nice way of shoving more garbage, bloatware and spyware down our throats and forcIng updates.

[Portasaurus]

Windows 10: Finally, my PHONE on my COMPUTER!!

"Welcome to Windows 10. Go fuck yourself" -Microsoft

[Swish]

Sticking with Windows 7 til they don't support it anymore. If that's as long as XP had before they stopped supporting that we got a good while yet :)

[feanan]

ooooh, is this the cool guy hate on microsoft thread? woohoo

siri sucks compared to google now, so hopefully it's not anything like siri

[feanan]

oh, i forgot...blah blah blah, year of linux on the desktop, blah blah blah

[Zadrian]

I don't trust it.... -.-

[Thulghor]

Windows 10 is clearly Genisys. Someone better call Sarah Connor.

[jarshale]

win7 64bit all the way

[Big_Japan]

That's no technological marvel any more than the kitchen of the future in those old black-and-white 50s infomercials was remotely like our kitchens today.

to be fair, the latest-gen NSA backdoors in Windows 10 are surely quite a technological marvel

[Madbad]

I'm running win 7 64-bit and will likely stick with it for a long time, one concern of mine is the possibility of new games coming out and requiring direct x 12 which seems like it will only be available for win 10.

[Kevris]

IT Professional here.

Upgrading my home PC to 10 as soon as it comes out. Not deploying it at work due to legacy application concerns.

[Madbad]

I think the question on everyone's mind is: "Will windows 10 impact my ability to steal games, music, and videos?"

[Swish]

I think the question on everyone's mind is: "Will windows 10 impact my ability to steal games, music, and videos?"

Why would it? If it did it wouldn't be very popular.

[Itap]

swish bring back the cat tongue gif, I loved it

[Swish]

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[Itap]

Yesssss

[Big_Japan]

I'm running win 7 64-bit and will likely stick with it for a long time, one concern of mine is the possibility of new games coming out and requiring direct x 12 which seems like it will only be available for win 10.

When is the last time a decent game got on the "you must be THIS good a goy to ride" wagon anyway? If the threat of disgusting slimy publishers of graffix-crutched trash colluding with MS for shit-os exclusivity is enough to convince you to downgrade your OS, you deserve the shitbrick with terrible start menu and 30 second phone-home to the Utah data center at startup you will get

[Calabee]

Sticking with Windows 7 til they don't support it anymore. If that's as long as XP had before they stopped supporting that we got a good while yet :)

end support was already stated for 2020 regarding win7

[Secrets]

I'm okay with Win10. Been using it for a while now. Nice and clean and combines metro/non-metro elements into one OS.

I can see myself using it as my primary work OS.

When is the last time a decent game got on the "you must be THIS good a goy to ride" wagon anyway? If the threat of disgusting slimy publishers of graffix-crutched trash colluding with MS for shit-os exclusivity is enough to convince you to downgrade your OS, you deserve the shitbrick with terrible start menu and 30 second phone-home to the Utah data center at startup you will get

Most games aren't going to phase out DX9 support for a while. It's a rendering engine like OpenGL and there is no incompatibilities that say, 'we can't support this because it's too much work' at this time.

FFXIV has a DX11 and a DX9 rendering engine for example. DX11 obviously looks better.

[radditsu]

I'm okay with Win10. Been using it for a while now. Nice and clean and combines metro/non-metro elements into one OS.

I can see myself using it as my primary work OS.



Most games aren't going to phase out DX9 support for a while. It's a rendering engine like OpenGL and there is no incompatibilities that say, 'we can't support this because it's too much work' at this time.

FFXIV has a DX11 and a DX9 rendering engine for example. DX11 obviously looks better.


She gets it.

[stormlord]

Why does Microsoft think it's a big selling point that you can ask Windows 10 "will I need an umbrella tomorrow?" and it replies that you probably shouldn't? Do people actually see that commercial and think "omfg, I MUST HAVE THIS NEW WINDOWS CAUSE IT ALSO HAS SHITTY SIRI CLONE TECHNOLOGY!!!"?

Get bent, Microsoft. That's no technological marvel any more than the kitchen of the future in those old black-and-white 50s infomercials was remotely like our kitchens today. Teach all my devices to sync themselves and be controlled with ease through the same interface with minimal effort on my part and without significant security risk and at reasonable cost, and then we can talk about how you're going to be the reason why my kids will experience technology I can't even dream of.


Sidenote - Weathermen don't know shit anyways. Must have been 5 times already this summer that the weather channel claimed there was a "100% chance of rain" in the next X period of time, only to see that period of time pass and it's mostly sunny at my house the whole time.


Rabble rabble.
Windows 10 is an improvement over 8. I'll admit I hated Windows 8 until i downloaded the 3rd party start menu. I avoided downloading more classical things because the start menu was the priority. Still, there're a lot of issues it has, last I tried it. I've used it a fair amount. The main thing was how Metro merges with everything else. It was clumsy. And if you're not familiar with Apps (like on mobiles or tablets) it can be very confusing. For example, the first couple times Apps executed, I didin't know how to close them. I had to experiment for a while before I figured out to click the top part and move it to the bottom of the screen. And of course I hated Apps--so damn confusing; no traditional menus and so many stupid unfamiliar icons.

But honestly if I got a new system I'd absolutely get Windows 10 or Windows 8.1 (if it was on sale or something?). Even if there're some things I don't like, I can probably find downloads for that. I do have concerns the mobile market is making it hard for a keyboard/mouse user like myself, but it's far from game over. There're usually options.

I think the Siri-Cortana-Google Now thing is cool. Ya it's overdone and maybe premature, but I think there's some good ideas going on. An intelligent assistant seems good on paper. But I imagine it's easy to get it wrong.

And being able to say "computer restart" or "start everquest" or asking questions while playing a game might be cool. But it's only cool if it's seamless and doesn't require technical knowledge. I just don't know if we're there yet.

I think the touch-screen thing is the same, but it's ready and has been for a while. I just don't use it. The touch screen thing makes sense to me if a person uses mobiles/tablets a lot. It merges keyboard/mouse into the screen to reduce space requirements.

[Thulack]

Windows 10 is an improvement over 8. I'll admit I hated Windows 8 until i downloaded the 3rd party start menu. I avoided downloading more classical things because the start menu was the priority. Still, there're a lot of issues it has, last I tried it. I've used it a fair amount. The main thing was how Metro merges with everything else. It was clumsy. And if you're not familiar with Apps (like on mobiles or tablets) it can be very confusing. For example, the first couple times Apps executed, I didin't know how to close them. I had to experiment for a while before I figured out to click the top part and move it to the bottom of the screen. And of course I hated Apps--so damn confusing; no traditional menus and so many stupid unfamiliar icons.

But honestly if I got a new system I'd absolutely get Windows 10 or Windows 8.1 (if it was on sale or something?). Even if there're some things I don't like, I can probably find downloads for that. I do have concerns the mobile market is making it hard for a keyboard/mouse user like myself, but it's far from game over. There're usually options.

The real battle is between power users and everyday users. I think Windows 10 is much closer to a balance.

What apps do you really need to use that you cant just download the actual program for? Only switched to 8.1 about 2 months ago and just installed everything like normal after getting the start menu shell. Feels just like 7 to me now after going through some setting changes. i dont even ever see the metro screen. Only annoying part of 8 is not being able to remove the logging in with password everything you boot up the PC.

[stormlord]

What apps do you really need to use that you cant just download the actual program for? Only switched to 8.1 about 2 months ago and just installed everything like normal after getting the start menu shell. Feels just like 7 to me now after going through some setting changes. i dont even ever see the metro screen. Only annoying part of 8 is not being able to remove the logging in with password everything you boot up the PC.
I can't remember how the apps came up. Maybe I accidentally clicked on them or maybe not. I also had some friends accidentally start apps and not know how to close them. Far as Metro goes, I enver installed anyting to get rid of it. So everytime I booted Windows 8, it'd go to Metro. And everytime I was at the desktop and moved my mouse to left corner, something relating to Metro will come up. And there were some things I only knew how to do in Metro.

That's all I really didn't like about Windows 8: no start menu, metro and apps. But like I said, if you download the start menu, it's forgiveable and easy enough to ignore everything else.

I even tried some old games on Widnows 8 and they worked fine. I had to experiment with the monitor settings though to get some games to show right. I also didn't like the extreme widescreen so found a way to make it more square.

That's another thing... I hate these widescreen monitors. Thankfully, there's a setting for it. I do not get why people like them? I like to see everyting in front of me. With widescreens, I gotta strain my neck to see everyting.

[Ayrtonian]

Only annoying part of 8 is not being able to remove the logging in with password everything you boot up the PC.

enter 'control userpasswords2' (no space between the 's' and '2') in the Run dialog, click onto Advanced and uncheck the 'Require users to press CTRL ALT DELETE' checkbox.

Should allow the auto logon.

[Smedy]

type netplwiz , run it

uncheck that you need to login at boot
you'll get promted with username/password

enter your credentials there, and you'll auto login to windows each time computer starts

[phacemeltar]

the only reason microsoft didnt go bankrupt 10-years ago is because the US government invested in them for their systems. every government office uses windows machines, and due to compatibility issues with apple, most US businesses and foreign governments bought into it too.
windows 10 is just another way for these jerks to keep their customer-base dependent on their software, and the next "upgrade" i make is going to be in the direction of UNIX. im still using windows 8, and maybe its because i am familiar with win 95/98/xp/vista that i have NEVER felt the need to "upgrade", even to 8.1
i hear people complaining about windows 8 all the time, but it seems like the only real problem anyone can ever come up with is the full-screen start menu overlay (which i think is genius and nicely responsive)
/rant

P.S. - fuck these capitalist bastards

[Man0warr]

There's no alternative. Maybe if Windows never existed there would be a Linux distro or Mac that could play all games (pretend directx never existed) and they'd all be using OpenGL.

But there isn't - and we are stuck with Windows or dual booting Windows.

[Ranndom]

Why does Microsoft think it's a big selling point that you can ask Windows 10 "will I need an umbrella tomorrow?" and it replies that you probably shouldn't? Do people actually see that commercial and think "omfg, I MUST HAVE THIS NEW WINDOWS CAUSE IT ALSO HAS SHITTY SIRI CLONE TECHNOLOGY!!!"?

Get bent, Microsoft. That's no technological marvel any more than the kitchen of the future in those old black-and-white 50s infomercials was remotely like our kitchens today. Teach all my devices to sync themselves and be controlled with ease through the same interface with minimal effort on my part and without significant security risk and at reasonable cost, and then we can talk about how you're going to be the reason why my kids will experience technology I can't even dream of.


Sidenote - Weathermen don't know shit anyways. Must have been 5 times already this summer that the weather channel claimed there was a "100% chance of rain" in the next X period of time, only to see that period of time pass and it's mostly sunny at my house the whole time.


Rabble rabble.

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[Ravager]

Computers are dumb and should be hated.

[Cookiefist]

netplwiz

[Wisteso]

Windows 10 isn't as nice looking as Windows 7, but unlike Windows 8, it has potential.

Also runs games slightly faster than 7, IIRC.

The privacy invading stuff is very very easily modded out.

[Thulghor]

Computers are dumb and should be hated.

^^This.

[Knuckle]

what exactly does windows 10 provide that windows 7 does not, for me, the average gamer?

[Thulghor]

what exactly does windows 10 provide that windows 7 does not, for me, the average gamer?

DirectX 12. Only thing I can think of. Maybe better CPU and Memory utilization, but that's debatable depending on overhead cost.

[maskedmelon]

I still run XP on my boxes. Only recently has it begun to introduce any problems of note (no .net 4.5 /mourn VGOemu)

[Paleman]

all i gotta say about win 10 is lol @ trying to charge micro transactions on fucking solitaire.

[MrSparkle001]

DirectX 12. Only thing I can think of. Maybe better CPU and Memory utilization, but that's debatable depending on overhead cost.

So no need to worry about getting it for a while, unless there's a bunch of DirectX12 games already being developed?

[Thulack]

So no need to worry about getting it for a while, unless there's a bunch of DirectX12 games already being developed?

Correct and i dont think there are any directx12 only major games coming out anytime soon. So dx11 will be just fine for awhile.

[Skittlez]

Still waiting on my download. :(

[Thulghor]

Still waiting on my download. :(

Here's a few different ways to force it to trigger:

http://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-upgrade-not-showing-yet-heres-how-manually-trigger-update

Media Creation Tool:

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=617364